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Saaf_laandon_mo 22-05-2008 21:32
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34557940)
Look, I don't see anything in Russ D's post to suggest he was trying to down play the Holocaust, seriously. I think he was just saying that he did not know how close the holocaust came to wiping out a entire race. He's comment about 6 million 'not being a lot on the grand scheme of things' suggests that he thought the amount of Jewish people at the time was a lot larger than it was and hence although 6 million is a lot, he didn’t know how big a percentage of the population that related too. Poor choice of words though, but that’s all.

Traxdata's post was genuinely sick though, and I think we can all see that. There is really not much to say other than that it was a vile, anti-Semitic post from which we can judge a lot about the personality of the poster.

There were a couple of others and in light of that I am not sure why so much attention is being placed on Russ D’s post for what seems just a misunderstanding and is obviously not anti-Semitic.

By the way, IMO, The reasons why there is anti-Semitism exists is partly from some people who follow Christianity who seem to have a problem with the death of Jesus and the ‘Jewish Involvement’ but there are all sorts of allegations (lies) made against them. These are obviously just accusations anti-Semitic morons use to try and justify their illogical and despicable views. I don’t think we need to pay much attention to them personally, since they are obviously incapable of intelligent thought and we won’t be able to even begin to comprehend their warped ignorant minds.
I don't think anyone is calling Russ antisemtic, but I have to disagree with what you say as regards to downplaying the holocost. He did not make his comparison to the jewish population at the time but in the context of a billion world population. Poor choice of words, maybe, but I still find it hard that someone can make a comparison like that without downplaying the topic.

I'd say that more attention was put to his posts (and it wasnt a one off) as opposed to trax's because Trax's post is just sick and out of order, maybe a reflection of the post itself. A post like that doesnt warrant attention that the poster is so obviously seeking.

I was more suprised at Russ's post because I deem him to be intelligent enough not to make a statement liek that.

TraxData 22-05-2008 21:47
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34557946)
I don't think anyone is calling Russ antisemtic, but I have to disagree with what you say as regards to downplaying the holocost. He did not make his comparison to the jewish population at the time but in the context of a billion world population. Poor choice of words, maybe, but I still find it hard that someone can make a comparison like that without downplaying the topic.

I'd say that more attention was put to his posts (and it wasnt a one off) as opposed to trax's because Trax's post is just sick and out of order, maybe a reflection of the post itself. A post like that doesnt warrant attention that the poster is so obviously seeking.

I was more suprised at Russ's post because I deem him to be intelligent enough not to make a statement liek that.
Hmm, i wasnt trying to grab any attention thankyou very much, i have my reasons, also one did NOT say he wished a holocaust on the jewish, nor would i be happy about it happening, but i certainly would not shed a tear.

Funny, if its asians, blacks, or whatever some of you dont like it wouldnt matter :rolleyes:

You may think my post was sick, but i have extremely strong reasons for hating anybody thats jewish, and that is personal/private, thus nothing to do with any of you.

Saaf_laandon_mo 22-05-2008 21:49
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557955)
Hmm, i wasnt trying to grab any attention thankyou very much, i have my reasons, also one did NOT say he wished a holocaust on the jewish, nor would i be happy about it happening, but i certainly would not shed a tear.

Funny, if its asians, blacks, or whatever some of you dont like it wouldnt matter :rolleyes:

You may think my post was sick, but i have extremely strong reasons for hating anybody thats jewish, and that is personal/private, thus nothing to do with any of you.
actually a lot of people on here, maybe not all, would have reacted the same if your post was directed at blacks or asians.

And if its a personal / private matter why put it on a public forum?

Niles Crane 22-05-2008 21:50
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557955)
Hmm, i wasnt trying to grab any attention thankyou very much, i have my reasons, also one did NOT say he wished a holocaust on the jewish, nor would i be happy about it happening, but i certainly would not shed a tear.

Funny, if its asians, blacks, or whatever some of you dont like it wouldnt matter :rolleyes:

You may think my post was sick, but i have extremely strong reasons for hating anybody thats jewish, and that is personal/private, thus nothing to do with any of you.
Yet you mentioned your hatred on a public discussion forum. A bit dim, don't you think?

TraxData 22-05-2008 21:52
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34557959)
actually a lot of people on here, maybe not all, would have reacted the same if your post was directed at blacks or asians.

And if its a personal / private matter why put it on a public forum?
Spur of the moment.

I'd retract it if i could, but what is done is done and that's that.

Nice to know all of you judge on here without knowing ANY of the reasons behind ones opinion.

I'd understand if i had said i wish someone would turn the gas back on and throw them back in or something, but i wouldnt, because i wouldnt wish it on anyone, ever, genocide is bad no matter who it's against.

I find it highly annoying some of you are here judging me based on one little post, maybe if you had walked through my shoes in life and been through what i have you'd have a very very very different view on things.

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Originally Posted by Ezenden (Post 34557960)
Yet you mentioned your hatred on a public discussion forum. A bit dim, don't you think?
We all have our blonde moments in life. :)

Damien 22-05-2008 21:55
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557955)
Hmm, i wasnt trying to grab any attention thankyou very much, i have my reasons, also one did NOT say he wished a holocaust on the jewish, nor would i be happy about it happening, but i certainly would not shed a tear.
That's just as sick.

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Nice to know all of you judge on here without knowing ANY of the reasons behind ones opinion.
I suspect the reasons do make any sense. Stereotyping a whole race, demonising a whole race, is just ignorant and, in this case, disgusting. How do you even know someone you like is not Jewish? How can you hate a entire race of people on principle? Have you meet all of them?

You can’t even see the fallacy of it

Niles Crane 22-05-2008 21:56
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557962)
Spur of the moment.

I'd retract it if i could, but what is done is done and that's that.

Nice to know all of you judge on here without knowing ANY of the reasons behind ones opinion.

I'd understand if i had said i wish someone would turn the gas back on and throw them back in or something, but i wouldnt, because i wouldnt wish it on anyone, ever, genocide is bad no matter who it's against.

I find it highly annoying some of you are here judging me based on one little post, maybe if you had walked through my shoes in life and been through what i have you'd have a very very very different view on things.

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We all have our blonde moments in life. :)
Your reasons are irrelevant. Nothing can justify the hatred of an entire group of people based on nothing more than religion and/or ethnicity. It's completely illogical.

TraxData 22-05-2008 21:58
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34557965)
That's just as sick.
Maybe to you, but you havent been through what i have, nor do you know my background, so keep your pre-judgements to yourself.

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No, a lot of us would. Stereotyping a whole race, demonising a whole race, is just ignorant and, in this case, disgusting. How do you even know someone you like is not Jewish? How can you hate a entire race of people on principle? Have you meet all of them?

You can’t even see the fallacy of it
Funny, i see plenty of racism on here, i have nothing more to say on that point.

No one i know is jewish, i've met enough jews in my life time to never ever ever ever want to be near oen again, when you've walked through my shoes you can sit here and talk back, until then, you can have your view, i'm gonna have mine.

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Then don't post your anti-Semitic idiocy on a public forum.
And dont post with your holy highorse all the time, i often see you going on at people on here, your so stuck up yourself it's unbelievable, mr perfect :rolleyes:.

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I suspect the reasons do make any sense[/QUOTE]

Ok.

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Originally Posted by Ezenden (Post 34557969)
Your reasons are irrelevant. Nothing can justify the hatred of an entire group of people based on nothing more than religion and/or ethnicity. It's completely illogical.

Who said it had anything to do with my religion? or anything to do with ethnicity? see there you go again, pre judgemental without knowing the facts.

Niles Crane 22-05-2008 22:00
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557973)
Who said it had anything to do with my religion? or anything to do with ethnicity? see there you go again, pre judgemental without knowing the facts.
Another blonde moment i see. I'm talking about Judaism, not your demographic.
Pre-judgemental? Says the guy with a hatred for every Jew.

TraxData 22-05-2008 22:01
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezenden (Post 34557978)
Ok.

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Who said it had anything to do with my religion? or anything to do with ethnicity? see there you go again, pre judgemental without knowing the facts.
Another blonde moment i see. I'm talking about Judaism, not your demographic.
Pre-judgemental? Says the guy with a hatred for every Jew.[/QUOTE]

Uh-Huh, i said i have nothing else to say on the matter, why carry on?

Chris 22-05-2008 22:48
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
This thread has been closed for 20 minutes to allow everybody to pause, take a breath and CALM DOWN.

I cannot be bothered doing a lengthy thread clean-up tonight, so to save myself the bother I will start passing round infractions like sweeties the very next time it kicks off, and I will then close and remove the thread permanently.

There will be no more warnings.

Behave.


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Now re-opened.

Hugh 22-05-2008 22:53
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
So, from 275k in 2005 to 280k in 2008 - at that rate, Jews will be in the majority in 600 years (if the UK population stays at 60 million).

Be afraid......... be very afraid.


Or not.

Maggy 22-05-2008 23:12
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
I'm not happy with this thread and I'm disappointed by TraxData. :(

I don't care to participate any further and I shall have a hard job being civil to him in future.

danielf 23-05-2008 00:34
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34557962)
Spur of the moment.

I'd retract it if i could, but what is done is done and that's that.
It's not the first time though, is it?

Quote:
Nice to know all of you judge on here without knowing ANY of the reasons behind ones opinion.

I find it highly annoying some of you are here judging me based on one little post, maybe if you had walked through my shoes in life and been through what i have you'd have a very very very different view on things.
Well, if you were to post your reasons, then we could post our informed opinions. As it stands, your 'one little post' would get more than a few cheers from the Waffen SS. And apart from hinting at presumably terrible experiences you have had, you have said nothing that remotely justifies what you posted. If you post on a public forum, people will judge you on what you post, not vague references to 'things you've experienced.

frogstamper 23-05-2008 03:26
Re: Jewish population on the increase
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf
Well, if you were to post your reasons, then we could post our informed opinions. As it stands, your 'one little post' would get more than a few cheers from the Waffen SS. And apart from hinting at presumably terrible experiences you have had, you have said nothing that remotely justifies what you posted. If you post on a public forum, people will judge you on what you post, not vague references to 'things you've experienced.

Of course he hasn't posted any reason, because there is no logical reason for hating an entire race. I'm sure he is very aware of that, hence the silence, I wonder how Trax would feel if he needed an operation, and the only doctor capable of doing said operation was Jewish.?....mmmm I wonder.


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