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Damien 29-02-2008 16:23
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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34498000)
I am sorry but I feel for the poor Afghanis, we send a brat with several TV crews to film him at war. What a disgrace, people are losing their lives and we are watching it as a reality show...
No, What is a disgrace is attacking someone who is serving in the army, 10 weeks on the front line, to suit your own agenda. Don't pretend it's the Afgan people you are concerned about, you just want to have a go at the Royal Family.

A photo-op does not need to involve 10 weeks on the front line (more if drudge hadnt leaked it), real danger, real risk. The media needed to stay out of this so he would not attract kidnap attacks. The media asking for some pictures in return is understandible.

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Also, they were only out interviewing him at certain moments. He had many weeks without the media, and they were not there when he was fighting.

iglu 29-02-2008 16:24
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34498032)
No, What is a disgrace is attacking someone who is serving in the army, 10 weeks on the front line, to suit your own agenda. Don't pretend it's the Afgan people you are concerned about, you just want to have a go at the Royal Family.

A photo-op does not need to involve 10 weeks on the front line (more if drudge hadnt leaked it), real danger, real risk. The media needed to stay out of this so he would not attract kidnap attacks. The media asking for some pictures in return is understandible.
Damien, we just have different opinions. Let's leave it t that :)

ntluser 29-02-2008 16:29
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34497674)
:erm: perhaps by his deeds and actions whilst there? Just because it's a naff war doesn't mean you can't conduct yourself in a heroic mannor, in keeping with the best traditions of the army.
There are a lot of brave soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are conducting themselves in the best traditions of the army.They are just doing their very dangerous job in a courageous manner and if Harry manages to match that he will earn their respect and ours but to label him a hero is just a PR exercise because by the same token you would also have to label all the other soldiers as heroes too.I suspect most would feel that they are doing the job they are paid and trained to do.

Heroism implies an act of courage over and above the call of duty usually for the sake of others.Heroes might include for example a soldier rushing an enemy machine gunpost to stop it firing on his comrades, disarming a live bomb, rescuing an injured colleague whilst under fire etc.No doubt forum members can think of other examples

Having seen all the newspaper pages devoted to Harry, I suspect it is more a PR exercise to show that Harry has done his bit. One does have to wonder though how it was that a US website in a country which is supposed to be an ally leaked the information.

Damien 29-02-2008 16:33
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Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 34498037)
Having seen all the newspaper pages devoted to Harry, I suspect it is more a PR exercise to show that Harry has done his bit. One does have to wonder though how it was that a US website in a country which is supposed to be an ally leaked the information.
It was the Drudge Report, he has a history of leaking information (Bill Clintons and Monica for example). He doesn't care much about responsible journalism, and wouldn't think twice about posting something like this, big scoop for him. Bad news for everybody else.

iglu 29-02-2008 16:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34498032)
Also, they were only out interviewing him at certain moments. He had many weeks without the media, an d they were not there when he was fighting.

See video here.

Caption:
"Watch: This is no rehearsal - Prince Harry fires at Taliban fighters in Helmand province"

peanut 29-02-2008 16:38
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Though I did like The Stars headline today 'When Harry met Tali'.

Good luck to him, he didn't have to do it, he wanted to do it and he's now done it, I have to say it was commendable on his part.

There's always going to be people slating the royals, no matter what they do, good or bad it won't matter to some.

Sirius 29-02-2008 16:38
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Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 34498037)
There are a lot of brave soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are conducting themselves in the best traditions of the army.
Then there are those on this forum who will slag them off but donthave the guts to do the Job themselves but will go running to those same soldiers to save there yellow belly necks if the need be. You know who you are ???:mad:

Maggy 29-02-2008 16:43
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Funny thing is that Prince Andrew did his bit and no one thought anything of it and I don't remember anything like this vitriol about him being in the Falklands.He was even more of a playboy than Harry too.Still is by all accounts.;)

So what is it that has got some people het up by a younger royal whom is no worse than many of his generation, that they would wish him dead.

Green eyed gods and all that I guess.:rolleyes:

Xaccers 29-02-2008 16:51
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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34498022)
A photo opportunity with a few blown up Afghanis is acceptable to you?

Damien in "Drop the dead Donkey" stuff...
Do you not think that defending civilians against the Taliban is acceptable?

ntluser 29-02-2008 16:56
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Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34498052)
Funny thing is that Prince Andrew did his bit and no one thought anything of it and I don't remember anything like this vitriol about him being in the Falklands.He was even more of a playboy than Harry too.Still is by all accounts.;)

So what is it that has got some people het up by a younger royal whom is no worse than many of his generation, that they would wish him dead.

Green eyed gods and all that I guess.:rolleyes:
Yes, I'd agree. Andrew did not get half the attention that Harry gets but quietly got on with the job.

Andrew is something of a playboy but I don't recall any of his antics getting into the press in the same way.He also does a pretty good job as ambassador for British industry abroad.

iglu 29-02-2008 17:02
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34498055)
Do you not think that defending civilians against the Taliban is acceptable?
You do not need TV crews and a brat for that mate!

Xaccers 29-02-2008 17:16
Re: Prince Harry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34498066)
You do not need TV crews and a brat for that mate!
Was that a yes or a no?

iglu 29-02-2008 17:32
Re: Prince Harry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34498055)
Do you not think that defending civilians against the Taliban is acceptable?
Yes, it is acceptable. :)

Xaccers 29-02-2008 17:36
Re: Prince Harry
 
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Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34498078)
Yes, it is acceptable. :)
Is the defending of civilians against the Taliban using film/photographs and reported in the media acceptable?

iglu 29-02-2008 17:42
Re: Prince Harry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34498080)
Is the defending of civilians against the Taliban using film/photographs and reported in the media acceptable?

Come on, you do not defend with TV crews showing a brat, there is no need for this, get the boy a computer game, there is no need for him to practice with real Afghanis


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