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Saaf_laandon_mo 20-06-2007 12:58
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
This thread is like a roundabout without any exits.............

Damien 20-06-2007 12:59
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We have great freedom of speech, your saying all this stuff are you not? Rushdie not only was allowed to publish his books but also got protection to ensure he was safe saying it and now gets a knighthood. Brixdon? Who cares, the race roits were started by white people and not black people we should add.

Womble 20-06-2007 13:02
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34332122)
You're the one who linked migrant workers to loss of freedom of speech.
Am I? Silly me to engage such narrow minded people in a debate on how migrants effect employment.

And you STILL have not addressed the issues in posts 30, 32, 33 and 34. But then again you wont, cos it doensn't suit your agenda

JackB 20-06-2007 13:03
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34332022)
Lets not foget, I know some people would like to, that children born to immigrants will grow up learning english and so won't have a problem at school.
Sorry, was that too obvious?

me283, sorry, I mean JackB, so easy to get you two mixed up, your son said he hadn't learnt much at school because the teacher was dealing with other kids?
Hell, that's school for you.
I didn't learn much in some lessons because of the less intelligent kids.
Thankfully, we had things called school books, which we were supposed to learn from, rather than being dictated to by a teacher and just regurgitate things parrot fashion, but hey, maybe your school doesn't do that.
What did the head teacher say when you discussed it with them?
Xaccers, for a start who is me283?

I was speaking about a problem in schools with children who don't speak English. I've read some stories of teachers resorting to sign language to try and communicate. If the class are supposed to be listening to the teacher and she breaks off to try and explain what she's talking about to some other children, where does that leave the rest of the class?

You make school sound like it's a case of sitting at a desk reading all day. When I went to school we communicated with our teachers.

Womble 20-06-2007 13:03
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34332127)
Brixdon? Who cares, the race roits were started by white people and not black people we should add.
dont be a fool, where you there? No? thought not.

Damien 20-06-2007 13:05
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34332133)
dont be a fool, where you there? No? thought not.
Where you?

I have read and heard about it and it was provoked by a white man shouting at a black man who was arguing with his girlfriend. Then white people from around london came from all around to start what became the roit.

Xaccers 20-06-2007 13:08
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34332134)
Where you?

I have read and heard about it and it was provoked by a white man shouting at a black man who was arguing with his girlfriend. Then white people from around london came from all around to start what became the roit.
Sounds like the Oldham riots, after years of the police discriminating against the asian community, they started taking things into their own hands and not standing for trouble from white racists.
Loads of white racists were shipped in, and trouble was stirred up by the BNP and local rightwing groups and press.

Maybe the English way of life involves starting race riots? What do you think Womble, what's your definition of the English way of life?

Womble 20-06-2007 13:09
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34332134)
Where you?

I have read and heard about it and it was provoked by a white man shouting at a black man who was arguing with his girlfriend. Then white people from around london came from all around to start what became the roit.
Heard, from who??
Sounds like crap to me. But my point was Brixton was, a dare i say it, Middle class, that was untill the immigrants moved in and wrecked it. Go for a walk down the frontline at midnight, dare you :devsmoke:

but this thread is getting boring, back on topic, the title is incorrect

sherer 20-06-2007 13:10
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the problem is without any immigrants on this forum and with what seems like no posts from anyone who knows any there is very little unbiased or even properly formed comments from anyone.. it's all based on so called reporting from papers and web site links and considering I could create a web site in 5 mins and put it on the net with my own views and some figures it's hardly conclusive

as i said before i'm not sure if the UK could survive without the migrant works I know I rely on them heavily just to get into and out of the office

my friend is an immigrant, albiet from Austria rather than Eastern Europe, but I know she pays taxes and contributes to society and has integrated very well but TBH i've no real idea if they are all like here and the ones I see on a day to day basis

Womble 20-06-2007 13:10
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
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Originally Posted by JackB (Post 34332132)
Xaccers, for a start who is me283?

I was speaking about a problem in schools with children who don't speak English. I've read some stories of teachers resorting to sign language to try and communicate. If the class are supposed to be listening to the teacher and she breaks off to try and explain what she's talking about to some other children, where does that leave the rest of the class?

You make school sound like it's a case of sitting at a desk reading all day. When I went to school we communicated with our teachers.
They wont answer you, it doesnt suit their agenda

danielf 20-06-2007 13:11
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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34332140)
back on topic, the title is incorrect
Why? What inaccuracies/omissions are there in the report that Damien linked to?

JackB 20-06-2007 13:11
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34332134)
Where you?

I have read and heard about it and it was provoked by a white man shouting at a black man who was arguing with his girlfriend. Then white people from around london came from all around to start what became the roit.
Rubbish.

Saaf_laandon_mo 20-06-2007 13:11
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34332140)
Heard, from who??
Sounds like crap to me. But my point was Brixton was, a dare i say it, Middle class, that was untill the immigrants moved in and wrecked it. Go for a walk down the frontline at midnight, dare you :devsmoke:

but this thread is getting boring, back on topic, the title is incorrect
How long ago are we talking about Brixton being middle class, and trouble free from the immigrants?

Womble 20-06-2007 13:13
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34332142)
it's all based on so called reporting from papers and web site links
Mines not, thank you. I have seen areas that where once nice neighbourhoods wrecked by unchecked immigration
One estate where I live is full of Portuguese. All signing on, all housed by the council, but hey it makes us better people

Damien 20-06-2007 13:14
Re: Migrant workers help UK economy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34332140)
Heard, from who??
Sounds like crap to me. But my point was Brixton was, a dare i say it, Middle class, that was untill the immigrants moved in and wrecked it. Go for a walk down the frontline at midnight, dare you :devsmoke:

but this thread is getting boring, back on topic, the title is incorrect
I would not walk in any deprived areas at night without hesitation. Poverty breeds crime, not colour or race.

I read from many places, the latest being the History of Britain Documentry series on the BBC. But History books also confirm these events

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brixton_riot_(1981)

Quote:
The actual riot was unplanned, almost spontaneous. On the evening of the 10th, at around 5.15pm, a black youth with a knife wound was stopped by a police patrol. As he was being escorted by two police officers along Railton Road towards a waiting vehicle a large crowd intervened. The police were attacked and the struggle only ended when more police officers arrived; the youth was taken to hospital
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