Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Neil... Neil... orange peel, when will we see you again!? :(

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Well the successful US cable franchises all do fine with HFC on the last mile running 15Mb BB and HD and VOD and VoIP succesfully. And the HFC is in place.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Yeah, but they maintain theirs, proactivley, we just firefight, but who knows?.. From what I've seen so far, TW seem to be more customer orientated, instead of the ntl way where they are treat subs like a hinderance!! So things may get better, we'll see

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

What a load of old cr@p. It's not a gnome, it's a hippy he's just killed. He killed a hippy everybody!!! (smash)

:D

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Yes, we're live-in lovers! But then you'd know that OB, as you're our live-in gimp:Yikes:

Now get back in the cupboard under the stairs:p: :p: :p:

I think that's one of the most sensible posts on the thread...certainly a lot more sensible than what I've just written above!

You can have the best network in the world, but if you ain't got then kit, service or ability to deliver - it's all pretty useless. Maybe it will change this time...maybe it won't. There's over years' of history that suggests it won't.

Nature planted me.... etc etc etc :LOL:

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Well, I did notice... he was hopping when he left.




I know, I know!... Sorry :dozey:

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Are you referring to us "our avatars are movie stars" bunch?

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Thats the thing see, it is like the first time as a kid you ignore your mum and put your hand on the electric ring, it burns and leaves a mark in your memory that tells you not to do it again!
I associate the above scenario with all the promises being peddled by NTL, they sound great! but past experience has taught me it can be a pipe dream too ;)
So a lot of work has to be done by them, and I am not just talking about technology, thats great to have IF IT WORKS!
No good sitting on the hard shoulder of the m6 in your audi tt when a skoda shoots past you! :D

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

See http://www.switchedonuk.org/home/when/

Q4 2011 for me!

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

Q2 2009 for Warrington

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

The 1.8T Audi TT and the Skoda Octavia VRS have the same engine. :D

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

What about the last Mile for 21st Century Network?

I still have my 100 year old piece of speaker wire dangling (very loosely I might add) from a telephone pole. It along with many others round here is aniquated anddoesnt look to have been maintainined since the days of the ark. Are BT going to replace this and the rest of the antiquated equipment in the final mile?

I can't honestly see them laying/hanging ethernet to the home, or even a new twisted pair to every house in the UK.

Closest 21st CN Will come to the home is the exchange or maybe the street cabinets, but thats going to need 1980/90 Cable company road digging powers! Which is unlikley

All I hope is that the new technology is not as reliant on distance from the exchange and quality of cabling in the last mile, as I cant see how it will make much difference.

The BT Line in my old house was crap, BT refused to replace it unless I paid for it, so what has changed?

BT already have perfectly good equipment in the exchanges at present, Its the final mile that lets it down, and I can not see how this is going to change. Only houses in new build developments will have the full effect.

BT have yet to get ADSL right if you live more than 1 mile from the exchange, BT Said they would release VOD this summer, I am yet to see it working. BT Said they would install 4 ISDN Lines at my work 33 days ago and promised it within 10 but can not deliver due to technical issues.

BT persists in talking complete and utter B/S as always, I would be very pleasantly surprised to see any of the current suggestions working by 2010 let alon 21st CN

BT (Its good to talk (utter ****e that is)

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

As for the prices, NTL.Telewest give you free Line Rental (with CableTV packages), Free Weekend Calls to all Local & National UK home telephones - Our call package prices are dropping, we are the first company in Europe to offer "Quad-Play" - visit the websites, compare the prices, and you will see, NTL.Telewest works out cheaper, and you will be able to get it all on the one bill, so it's convenient too.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well my line rental aint free i pays £11 for it a month with my 4mb £24.99 cable tv 19.99 or so / ur fone prices are going up not down the 321 plan is going to be 333 so hows that going down is 3p less than 1p bt prices have came down for they talk unlimited 24 u pay £9.99 i thinks and ntl is mmmmmmmmmmmm let me guess £15.50 or so take your head out off ur butt and stop talkin a lot of bull plz :dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

seems I was wrong about 21cn the docs rlsed by BT have no mention of fibre in the local loops meaning less then half will see anything above 8mbit on adsl2+. Its a possibility for sure now in 2011 when bt are still finishing of 21cn they still relying on copper local loops. My area isnt getting 21cn until Q2 2010.

Re: A little inside information by an Employee.
 

i think its reasonable to assume that by 2010 WiMax will be widespread if the industry has anything to do with it and hence that last mile will be covered, thats one of the reasons why i advocate wireless as standard in future stb's etc.