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Actually, thinking more about it, an air gun/pistol can be classified as a firearm if it's used to commit a crime, so I was completely wrong about it possibly being modified (at least more than likely wrong). the sentence apparently can range from three months to life, so I'd say she got off very lightly.

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Me and Paul both have been on the recieving end of this, our house was ramsacked by little scroats, every car we have had whilst we have been in this street has been damaged. I would protect my property in any which way I see fit and that includes the air pistol I own, and before anyone going blabbing off about it is wrong, just wait untill it happens to you.:mad: :mad:

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Have you shot at anyone yet?

edit: nice email by the way, why did you feel it necessary not to post it on here instead though? I'll reply on here if it's all the same

Firstly you have absolutely NO idea what crimes I might have been a victim of and secondly, obviously you're completely ignorant about the situation in Northern Ireland, nobody "runs about with machine guns".

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I have been a victim of several crimes but, funnily enough, never had the urge to run out with a firearm. Of course I don't own a firearm either.



Nice one Bifta!

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Me neither, funny that, if someone damages my car (which they have done on more than one occasion), I'll call the Police, if you get no joy with the police then you can always take your complaint to the Police ombudsman, if people can't accept and abide by the laws in this country then they either accept the consequences or emmigrate.

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What, your going to shoot me now? :rolleyes:

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Only if you touch the car ;)

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If I had a car I would do the same as Bifta said. Get the police to get it sorted.

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complete total and utter waste of time , 99/100 you will have no proof so will get nowhere ;)

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Some people ain't listening. It has happened to some of us, and yet the guns remain holstered.

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OK people, please slow it down a few thousand RPM.....

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From today's Manchester Evening News.

"POLICE have received hate mail over jailed schoolteacher Linda Walker.

Officers have been sent dozens of emails and letters, as well as taking phone calls from all over the country, from people angered over how police handled the investigation.

Police considered taking action over some of the letters, but abandoned the idea.

Chief Supt Andy Holt told of the hate mail as he went public to try to correct "misinformation" about the incident, which ended with a judge jailing the 48-year-old mother-of-three for six months. She will serve three months in Styal prison.

Mrs Walker was found guilty by a jury of affray and possession of a firearm after firing an air gun near her home in Urmston on August 14 last year.

Mrs Walker blamed local youths for making her life a misery, and her family say they made 15 calls to the police which they say were ignored.

Police say they can only find three incidents in that year which were reported to them. They concerned a break-in at Walker's garden shed, minor damage to a car and malicious phone calls to the Walker household.

Chief Supt Holt said: "There have been a lot of letters, written on the basis of misinformation and inaccuracy.

"What I have tried to do is correct those inaccuracies.

"People think we have not arrested people who damaged her car. There was no damage to her car. There's no evidence that the people Mrs Walker confronted were in any way responsible. If there are other examples of where the family has contacted the police I want to hear about them.

"Even if people had damaged her car, it can never be a proportionate response to take a loaded firearm out onto the streets. Is it okay to go out armed and confront the first people you come across, even if you have no proof they were responsible for discarding litter in your garden?

"While I accept she was frustrated, her actions were not proportionate. It could have been anybody's children out on the street."
Chief Supt Holt also tackled suggestions that youths were running amok on the streets of Urmston.

He said: "It's a residential area and people have high expectations of public service. When things aren't being delivered, they are vocal and write to the police, and I accept that. But I assure you things in Urmston are not out of control."

Det Sgt Frank Hayley, who investigated the case, said: " I would like people to judge us on the facts, not supposition, and also to judge us on the actions we are taking in the Urmston area."

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I think the problem is that when criminal are caught commiting crimes they are not dealt with harshly enough.

There is also no consistency in the sentences handed out and no common sense underpinning them.

If I go round to my neighbour and kill him with a shotgun, I am jailed for life ( well 15 years at least). If I run him over "accidentally", I get five years for manslaughter and with good behaviour I am out in two and half years.

We need to get police into schools more and start tackling crimes and criminals at the source i.e. the home. Many teachers could probably tell you those children in their class who would end up as criminals. Unfortunately, all the agencies involved today pussyfoot round the issue politically correctly.

We need to build more prisons, rationalise sentencing, get more police on the streets and remove persistent offenders from society for good. If we did that maybe law-abiding citizens would not have to break the law in order to live a crime & nuisance free life.

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it seems that you have never actually had a vechicle taken or tried to be taken. The Police will not touch it unless there has been signs that the vehicle had been attempted to be moved such as the ignition lock tampered with or the steering wheel snapped off which happened to one of our cars. And one certain person who shall remain nameless once commented that he would go round to the persons house and beat seven shades out of them with a baseball bat, which is no better than me owning a air pistol. Oh by the way you can only do real damage with an air pistol if you are stood about 2feet away from it or if you are really stupid play with one to see what it does. And it is locked in a safe secure place. But I stand by what I say I will protect my family and my house even if that means using a gun. So some people need to grow up and get into the real world, as you do not have a child like we do who has serious problems because if what the teeny scroat did.
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I am not ignorant, And I am aware of the NI peace process and the IRA and sin fein thank you. Posting A PM on the forum shows how ingorant you really are.

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A lot of words and no real substance, I do a lot of target shooting with both air pistols, rifles and .22's and if you had actually bothered to read any of this thread properly you might have discovered that there are guns (air) that can cause serious damage at far more than "2 feet". As for whoever said they'd take a baseball bat to them, they're also as "in the wrong" as you are, I've of the opinion that it's YOU that needs to grow up and start living in the real world, if you're willing to wave a gun around at kids I'm not surprised you get grief, whoevers perpetrating it probably see's you as the local nutcase.
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1. Please tell everyone here about an incident in Derry that you know about where someone has been running around with a machine gun?

2. It was an email, not a PM

Paul, put a lead on her ffs!