Originally Posted by Paul

Again a good point, we would do exactly the same in their case.. well we would if the EU or the Court of Human Rights would allow us to. Some people seem to forget just how this country got rid of it's criminals a long time ago ;) Didn't we send them somewhere?? :dozey:

The death penalty may look like the ultimate deterrent to some but as the stats show, it doesn't always work. This has a lot to do with criminals still believing that they can escape detection and therefor they won't have to face the penalty for their crimes. If the detection rate for all crimes were around the 90% mark a lot less people would risk commiting a crime in the first place.

Originally Posted by scastle

I mean to solve the problem BEFORE IT OCCURS.

Originally Posted by allieyoung666

It can mean either and I dont read the news of the world, I read the indpendent!

Originally Posted by andyl

You read the Independent, I'm the local BNP organiser ;)

Originally Posted by Damien

What does bleeding hearts mean?Its a stupid phrase.

This is what a posted a couple of months back, this is why i dont like the death penality:

I am against capital punishement.

In the states capital punishment has been shown to be a weak deterrent. The risk of death has no effect on the person who is about to commit the crime. Here is some evidence of that:



Moving on....The sort of mind-set you would need to be in, to commit the serious and appalling crimes that capital punishment could be used for, would mean they are not going to think of their punishment logically. These are crimes were the person is either mentally unbalanced, emotional, or desperate. Even if they were perfectly sane then they would think they could get away with it anyway. So capital punishment is not effective in reducing crime.

As for prisons being too full then capital punishment is not effective. Very few people are in prison for this type of crime. Serial killers and the worst murders do not make up a large number of the prison population. Most of it is made up of other crimes such as robbery, assault, and crimes linked to drugs etc. So the death penalty will not reduce overcrowding (even if it did, killing people to make space is a stupid idea anyway!!)

Thatââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s before we even get into the difficulties involved with deciding what should be considered a death penalty. Murder? Well murder isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t always clear cut, its not a case of someone kills someone in cold blood and thatââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s that! There was one case where a man had come home to his wife and she told him she was cheating on him. She then continued to boost about this and tell him that she never loved him, and that he was a joke. She continues bragging, insulting him and saying it had gone on since before they were married. He lashed out and the resultant blow was enough to kill her. He didnââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t get manslaughter and got charged with murder instead. Should that be enough?

What about someone whose need for drugs has over-powered any sort of logical thinking and he steals to get money for drugs? The victim attempts to stop him and he attacks the victim. Leading to that personââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s death? Should that be enough?

Hit and run? Murder out of anger, emotion or desperation? Quite young? Mentally unbalanced? Where do you draw the line?

Capital punishment does not act as a way to reduce crime, reduce prison levels, or keep the public safer. There will always be a case of one or two wrong convictions so it doesnââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t do much for justice either.

Is this nothing more than satisfying the human urge for revenge? And if it is, isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t that an awful way to deal with justice? Justice should always been fair and balanced and never should the emotion of a case get in the way

Finally it is far better to let that person sit in a cell for the rest of his life and live with his own conscience than to put him out of his misery quickly

Originally Posted by goldoni

I have a nice pipe cutter that would sort the problem, but that would go against his human rights. :mad:

Originally Posted by goldoni

I would not advocate hitting them with my pipe cutter, far from it. Smacking seven bells out of somebody is reserved for people that break into my house. For serial paedophiles the snip is the only answer, if they donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t have the tackle.

But living in the real world I know this is not the answer, but it would be nice if the problem could be sorted before it happens.

Originally Posted by slug

He is not coming back now.
More charges have been made in Austrialia.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Every time this evil piece of sh*t has been released he has re-offended. I say they should shoot him :mad:

Originally Posted by gary_580

basically your all calling for the death penalty???

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats impossible :dozey:

Originally Posted by scastle

My point is in cases like this, surely it's better to prevent people from offending in the first place? Whatever is done to the paedophile after the event will not help the damage done to the victims.