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1andrew1 12-03-2023 12:12

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36148066)

The ‘Nuff said’ bit is about the donations to my Party that the top echelons at the BBC have made. I tell you, I’m one of the last true Conservatives remaining. If the BBC hasn’t been leant one and then bent, my whatsit’s a kipper.

Maybe not by Ministers directly but by the Board appointments and by Conservative MPs writing to the BBC about Lineker.

Sephiroth 12-03-2023 14:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36148074)
Maybe not by Ministers directly but by the Board appointments and by Conservative MPs writing to the BBC about Lineker.

Chairman of the party probably had a word. Even if he didn’t, it’s not a good look.

Mad Max 12-03-2023 16:06

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MOTD would be far better just showing the highlights, just think of the money they'd save.

ianch99 12-03-2023 16:14

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This whole clown show is a direct result of the Government directing their Tory stooges in the BBC to get Lineker to apologise for speaking the truth to power. In essence, they wished to suppress free speech. Some points to consider:

- as is shown above, Lineker had no case to answer re: abiding by the BBC rules on impartiality. See examples for Sugar, etc.

- impartiality works both ways. BBC Chairman installed by government-appointed panel that included a Conservative party donor and prospective MP, as well as the wife of the former chair of the Spectator who worked with Boris Johnson when he edited that political magazine. BBC Board member Robbie Gibb, brother of Tory MP and former minister Nick Gibb, a clear Tory party agent.

- if he was a right-wing Football Presenter and had expressed his views on turning back boats, sending families fleeing war and seeking asylum away with no chance of return, etc. nothing would have happened

- he did not, as had been claimed, compare the Government to Nazis. What he did was compare the rhetoric & language used with that of the democratically elected German National Socialist Workers' Party as they rose to power. This is an important distinction where the lessons of history should be discussed and seen to be discussed. The poetic irony is that one of the National Socialists' most effective tools was to suppress & silence voices of opposition heard in the mass media of the time (newspapers & radio)

- hilariously, if the roles were reversed, the right-wing press plus the useful idiots would all be screaming "wokerati, snowflakes, etc." for supressing free speech.

- lastly here's someone else who is saying *exactly* what Lineker said:



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Suella Braverman has refused to apologise to a Holocaust survivor who said describing migrants as an “invasion” was akin to language the Nazis* used to justify murdering her family.

The Home Secretary was confronted by Joan Salter, 81, during a meeting in her Hampshire constituency of Fareham on Friday evening, with footage of the exchange, provided by the charity Freedom From Torture.

Ms Salter, who has been recognised with an MBE for her work on Holocaust education, likened Ms Braverman’s rhetoric on migrants attempting to cross the English Channel to that of the Nazis* during the Second World War.
* again, Ms Salter did not use the word Nazi in her address to Braverman. She was citing the language used that ultimately led to the dehumanising and murder of the Jews.

Maybe they'll go after the 81-year old Holocaust survivor next, for consistency?

This is all about control .. nothing more

peanut 12-03-2023 16:15

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36148098)
MOTD would be far better just showing the highlights, just think of the money they'd save.

I saw a bit of MOTD without the commentary, now I don't really follow football but it was like watching 'Unwind with ITV' it was really weird, not something I'd want to watch again.

Mad Max 12-03-2023 16:20

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36148100)
I saw a bit of MOTD without the commentary, now I don't really follow football but it was like watching 'Unwind with ITV' it was really weird, not something I'd want to watch again.

What i actually meant was it would be better without the studio panel commentating on the games, not the actual match commentary.

Maggy 12-03-2023 17:00

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If it means less sport on the BBC I'm happy.However my other half will be peeved.
Also I've given up expecting the BBC to stand up to outside interference from all and any political entities that really should leave the BBC alone.The politicians don't pay for it,we the public do.They need to butt out whatever their political leanings and those responsible for running the BBC should say so.

Mad Max 12-03-2023 17:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36148107)
If it means less sport on the BBC I'm happy.However my other half will be peeved.
Also I've given up expecting the BBC to stand up to outside interference from all and any political entities that really should leave the BBC alone.The politicians don't pay for it,we the public do.They need to butt out whatever their political leanings and those responsible for running the BBC should say so.

I'm not 100% sure but I don't think there's a lot of sport on the BBC.

Paul 12-03-2023 17:41

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36148100)
I saw a bit of MOTD without the commentary, now I don't really follow football but it was like watching 'Unwind with ITV' it was really weird, not something I'd want to watch again.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36148101)
What I actually meant was it would be better without the studio panel commentating on the games, not the actual match commentary.

The viewing figures apparently show almost 1/2 million more viewers than last week, and its highest total since the start of November last year.

For anyone wondering, No, I didnt see it, I never watch it, I view match highlights on the Sky Sports site.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36148055)
I was highlighting the irony of an avid free-marketer questioning how the free market worked…

First of all you're assuming we all know hes an "avid free-marketer".
Secondly, I really dont see him questioning how it works, just asking a question, to which he got an answer [which may or may not be the correct answer].

ianch99 12-03-2023 17:44

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36148032)
Looks like a sideswipe at Seph; the leftie remoaners don't like his opinions (which reflect the views of the silent majority) so they're trying to cancel him.

Oh, the irony :D

TheDaddy 12-03-2023 20:31

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36148100)
I saw a bit of MOTD without the commentary, now I don't really follow football but it was like watching 'Unwind with ITV' it was really weird, not something I'd want to watch again.

I hope they try it next on Question Time, without Fiona Bruce

I saw John Deadwood tweeting earlier how good it was, so much more action, yes just a shame it was only on a fraction of the time it usually is, who'd have thought Deadwood was a fan

Mr K 12-03-2023 20:43

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36148136)
I hope they try it next on Question Time, without Fiona Bruce

I saw John Deadwood tweeting earlier how good it was, so much more action, yes just a shame it was only on a fraction of the time it usually is, who'd have thought Deadwood was a fan

JR is a massive soccer ball fan. Wokingham and Emmbrook FC are massive ( in Wokingham). They are always on MOTD.

Kursk 12-03-2023 21:19

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36148115)
Oh, the irony :D

Whoosh. Leftie Remoaner :D

ianch99 12-03-2023 22:59

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36148141)
Whoosh. Leftie Remoaner :D

Well done. Took a while but you got there, good job.

Kursk 13-03-2023 09:37

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36148153)
Well done. Took a while but you got there, good job.

Aww, thank you. I wanted you to know that someone does still read your posts even though it seems only to be me ;)


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