Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Bugger im in Harrogate (HG1) area. Mind you saying that we only just got running water and electricity installed last week... :-P

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I'm in HG3.... and you have running water??.. You jammy sod!!!!

Might just get onto the water board and tell them I want my water running faster... and some quicker electricity while they're at it!!! LOL

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

if I try and upgrade online it tells me i'm on the 4mb service already but i am not according to the speed tests.
I am happy to wait for now but they can't advertise a 4mb service for long before people will start wanting it.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

so do i take it us 10mg users are now cap free at last:)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

yea, we had some Lo-FLO taps fitted by the council the other month, its soooo sloooooow to fill up the sink now, still theres a water shortage so thats that i guess.

im in manchester were it always rains, and it has too :)
no shortage of water here.

for faster electricity, your going to need high grade copper wire installing, and for superfast electricity, your looking at a super cooled gas refridgeration unit encasing the copper wire :)

that will get you faster................ Zoooooooommm

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

According to Ntl's webpage we are. :)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

but is that all your getting out of this upgrade ?, no extra upload speed or anything werth mentioning, hardly makes me want to move over to that option.......

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Yeah, a water shortage when we live on a freakin' island! Sorry, personal gripe!

----
Baguley eh? That's my area. Hmm, I wonder if tomorrow will see my latest linux distro coming down at 4mb?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

LMAO - Linux distro :-p

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

LOL that's so funny... I was only cracking a joke about the speed of water, didn't realise some people actually have that problem, oops!

Oh well... off to reboot the ol' modem again... back in a sec! ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Well, why don't you drink the sea water then?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Or we could purify it...

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Build a de-salinisation plant?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

errr... guuuyyyyysss..... back to the subject of whinging about NTL and their slow rollout? Non of us are gonna die of thirst... but we may die of lack of 4Meg Broadband!!!!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Or get back on topic :erm:

lol - anyway. Looks like there are a lot of bored people waiting for this upgrade. Not quite sure how your boredom will be cured but I hear that getting this upgrade before other people makes you cooler than them and harder and will get you more friends and women (or men) and.......

Oh forget it!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

hehe, well I doubt it will get us more women, but it will get movies of naughty women doing naughty things oh so much quicker!!! ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Yes, I would also like to download my dirty films twice as fast as I do now.


So come on NTL, get your act together, son. It's almost the 2nd of June. :mad:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I'm not entirely sure if I'm due an upgrade or not. All these upgrades companies have been doing in recent years, this dash for speed, it's all a bit ruddy silly quite honestly.

When I left ntl I downgraded from 3mb to 2mb as I lost staff discount, and although the speed did change as it shows up in online speed tests, the actual difference to my browsing experience was - nil!

Therefore if goes back to 4mb the difference will still be nil.

There is just no point to it all...I pay £24.99 for 2mb, it's good value, it never lets me down and frankly I'd rather they didn't mess with it to be honest. I'd rather leave it as it is. They can keep their 4mb. I worry that this constant messing with things will eventually screw something up and break it.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I phoned to disconnect on last week over speeds of broadband and was give a deal to stay and promised an upgrade to 4 meg free of charge by retentions , nothing about waiting till end of june lol. communications company lol:)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Modem just rebooted, got this in config Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000.

Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Everyone will be rebooting their modem now! ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Haha, hey wait, your upstream is higher than the TW one isn't it?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Tried, made no difference to my connection.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Ntl have a higher upstream than Telewest on their 4mbit and 10mbit packages currently.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

God knows, it done it all on its own, I'm watching telly just noticed the modem reboot so checked the config thingy.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Checked my logs, this meen anything to anyone??

Time Not Established Time Not Established 4 Critical(3) 68000300 DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Wed May 31 15:48:00 2006 Wed May 31 15:48:00 2006 1 Critical(3) 82000400 Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Un... Wed May 31 15:47:28 2006 Wed May 31 15:47:28 2006 21 Critical(3) 82000500 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - ... Time Not Established Time Not Established 6 Critical(3) 68000300 DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

It's recommended you ignore the logs unless you think you're having problems. My logs look similar but i think my connection is problem free.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Ah, ok. Sometime in the future i expect they will be the same.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Heard on another forum that someone else reported that on another forum that someone in Swansea reported his modem rebooting and getting 4mb. Can any Swansea people confirm this or is this person lying?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 2048000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 200000

Nothing for me...

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

its true, i heard jabberwacky was talking to Alf who heard it from Eliza.

http://chat.jabberwacky.com/
http://www.downloadjunction.com/prod...421/index.html
http://home.online.no/~anlun/bots.htm

:cool:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Yeah, but, no but...etc.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2006/06/28.jpg

:D

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Nice one... just who I was thinking of :rofl:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

:LOL:
Oh well, looks like no ones got it yet.

Whoops didnt realise it was on here. I saw someone post it on another forum and i didnt bother scrolling up and looking on here to see if it was this one:P

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

bilal here it is...ask him.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

oops, they must not have liked me saying I wanted the extra speed for pr0n!.. my speedtest result is now 148kbits/sec.. oops! (often does this > midnight though.. odd)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I think the key words to note on this page are up to 4 MB seemingly not referred to on the page you link to :lol:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

not true, it also states up to 1mb.. which you get 1mb speed just 50:1 ratio..

i was told if i went to 10mb i wud be garenteed 5mb ( because i use set top box )

---------- Post added at 05:43 ---------- Previous post was at 05:42 ----------

damn you :S

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

This thread has almost 40k views and so far only one person has been upgraded... Loveing the ratio ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Up to 4mb is not a good sign but so long as I get the 400kb upload and at least 2Mb down I don't care.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

No change here on my STB 2Meg in Poole yet :shrug:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Does anybody know whether they would actually tell you that you have been upgraded or would you have to find out for yourself?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

where do you get that 50 to 1 figure from?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

You'll have to find out yourself!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

hehe, looks like there are a few people on here with very little sleep last night! Must admit though, within 2 minutes of waking up at 7:30 I had bounced my modem...god, how sad am I????

(nothing yet though) ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I had no sleep... And i'm not even on NTL!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Still this for me:

Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:18:01 GMT

1st 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2188 ms = 234 KB/sec, approx 1928 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

hehe, now I dont feel *quite* so sad ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

My work for the day is done :p

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

What is the link to that little speed test?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

http://cableforum.co.uk/board/speed.php

Can be found at the top of this page too ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

On the morning of Tuesday the 6th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network upgrades will result in a loss of service in Baguley, Grimsby, Scunthorpe, Stockton, Hemel Hempstead, Oxford, Colchester, Bishops Stortford, Stapleford, Coventry, Warwick, Andover, Reading, Lichfield and the surrounding areas.

On the morning of Wednesday the 7th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network optimisation will result in a loss of service in the Birmingham, Baguley, Grimsby, Scunthorpe, Stockton, Hemel Hempstead, Oxford, Lewisham, Newmarket, Acton and the surrounding areas.

On the morning of Thursday the 8th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network upgrades will result in a loss of service in the Baguley, Grimsby, Scunthorpe, Hemel Hempstead, Oxford, Huddersfield, Poole and the surrounding areas.

Looks like these are the first areas getting the upgrade.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Oooo if thats indeed the case, roll on next Thursday :)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

even though it says 'network upgrade' dont assume it necessarily means the 4 meg speed upgrade is going through on those days.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

WOOO come on next tuesday! come on next tuesday! :P :P

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Have some of you failed to notice is says 'Tues, Weds and Thurs'? Dont be upset if you wake up Tues to find no change.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I'm thinking at least a week before people start to drift through with upgrades... and then there's gonna be the whole "I've been upped to 4meg and it's worse than 2meg" debate! ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Ah well another day waiting....
Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:20:03 GMT

1st 512K took 2203 ms = 232.4 KB/sec, approx 1915 Kbps, 1.87 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2187 ms = 234.1 KB/sec, approx 1929 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1932 Kbps, 1.89 Mbps.

Hey still fast enough for playing counterstrike on net though and will upload speed help gameplay or what? Not quite sure how speed will effect me really. only download demos and movie previews and that seems quite fast anyway. Scared to look for songs on p2p now cos of being watched:disturbd:. Can't believe i just said movies there i sound like a yank now damn (or should that be darn)this internet lol. Come on NTL boost me baby.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

The connection went wonky here in Nottingham at around midnight and I was convinced 'this is it'. When it eventually came back about 30 minutes later, quick reboot. Terrible, terrible speeds for 2MB around the 1MB mark :(

Tested this morning - 1.9MB download speed. Ah well...

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

yeah, my connection went t1ts up at midnight... as I said before though this often happens... think they kick off all types of maintainence at midnight

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

That doesn't really work as many areas get this done without getting speed upgrades every week. This is just standard network maintenance and upgrade I'm afraid.

Although if you're lucky they'll be doing the switchovers, however just because network optimisation / upgrades are being done it certainly doesn't mean that it's the tier uplift coming :)

---------- Post added at 09:41 ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 ----------

Nah upload increase won't improve gameplay at all dude, only means you can host more people on a server without lag.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Thanks anyway I'm not clever enough to host just play it and i am none too good at that either.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

hmm just had some odd goings on with my Browser, would load any pages for around a min. hmmmm indeed ... hmmmmm..

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Same here, NG17 area, except I've never had my connection go wonky after midnight for as long as I can remember. Must have been some routine maintenance affecting speeds.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Saw this quote on another board:

This can't be true can it? No upgrades for STB users?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

i dont believe that. There is no way ntl would do that, im 100% sure all stb customers are getting 4mb as well so dont worry :)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I don't believe it, but if you want to be sure call disconnections and tell them you're off to ADSL/Sky unless they give you a separate modem. I had no end of trouble with my STB, and after a LOT of complaining they gave me separate modem... then I cancelled TV and got Sky anyway ;)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

dunno if ive been upgraded too ulimited downloads yet i got a email sayin june sometime.i do get really good downloads at 9mbs even sometimes the daddy of 1198kbs per second speed. im happy as larry with all tht,but one thing i dont understand is why site pages take ages too open at certian time of day.im not very tech on this so any answer will do .im not moanin at all im happy with me service,,feel sorry for alot of u havin all these probs and hope u get sorted reall soon so were are all on 10mb straight and 512 upload and fast web pages openin up,,,oh and of course unlimited down loads,,:)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Smells like Horse Manure! If you have a Pace STB the Maximum you can receive is 1MBit, but assuming you have a Samsung or better you can receive at least 5-6MBit as has been proven.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

im actually getting about 1.4mb lol so i donno if i been upgraded lol..

i always get 1.8-1.9 mb on speed test, hmm :S

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

We've just downgraded from the 10mb to 2mb/4mb, having seen the new 4mb tier on NTL's website.

Since the 10mb "upgrade" we've only ever got between 1mb - 4mb, usually towards the bottom end of that. I figured we might as well pay for 4mb and get 1-4mb than pay for 10mb and get 1-4mb.

The impression we got from the person on the end of the 'phone is that we aren't the first customer to do this today. I think it's going to be a popular pastime now.

Frankly, though, if they would have changed our STB to one that would allow us to get the 10mb we were paying for, we wouldn't have downgraded. So by putting us off with the £50 fee that would have been required to upgrade the box, they're now going to lose £120 per year. Would it not have made more sense to upgrade the boxes for free, then they would have kept that £120 per year?

What kind of business sacrifices long-term gain for short-term fleecing of the customer? Still, when NTL changed the Pace boxes to Samsung ones (to handle 3mb) that couldn't handle the 10mb that was clearly just around the corner, it demonstrated all-too-plainly their incredible lack of forward thinking. Barmy.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

The Samsung boxes can't handle the full 10mbit?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

No, they often top out at between 4 - 6Mb

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

That remark is the best description of how NTL is being run at present I have seen. Would be interesting to see if they do have any future business plans long term one or is this now going to be the norm jumping from one month to the next and hope to stay one jump in front of bankruptcy.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I was also told that the upgrade would occur on the 1st June. NTL = Liars. :mad:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

lol, get over it ffs, bunch of moaning whingers. Big deal its the 2nd of June and you ain't got your extra 2meg to download your extra p0rn. Its a free upgrade you'lll get it when you get it DURING JUNE :monkey:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

As has been said on many occasions, the upgrades will be area by area during the month of June

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

No, it was at the end of last year I think when we received a letter from NTL saying something to the effect that the 3mb was being upgraded to 10mb but because we had a Samsung box it could only handle 5mb.

If we wanted to upgrade the box we could pay an extra £50 to do so. Given that it had only been a couple of months since they replaced our Pace with the Samsung in order to get the 3mb, and a complete farce the "Engineer" made of that, we decided not to bother.

I can't tell you how tiny that letter made you feel. It effectively said "we're giving everyone an upgrade to 10mb, except you - because you've gotta pay extra". I know that wasn't what they meant to say, but that's how it came across. As a loyal customer (we get BB, phone, and TV from NTL) paying top-whack for BB (£37.99 at the time, £34.99 since), the "gives us fifty quid" letter felt like being kicked in the gut.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

i must admit that having a sumsung i wonder how ours will cope with 4 MB.. when i max out the connection even this box runs slow and that's on 2 MB so dread to think what 4 MB will be like

out of interest what box do you need for 10 MB ?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Things have improved dramatically here today.
Downloading ISO's from my usual site today are averaging 1224 kB/s, normally it's 1024 kB/s, browsing is also much faster.
I just hope they leave things well alone now. :dmonk:

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

A cable modem... :)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Well I am mighty relieved that the new speeds have arrived. I was on the 10 meg connection and never got above 3.5 meg speed apart from the first few days when 10meg was introduced.

Several calls to NTL only ever ended with them trying to blame my equipment - sigh.

At least now with paying for 4 meg I am getting closer to the speeds they are managing to deliver to me. But suddenly £25 per month sounds a heck of a lot compared to the ADSL offers out there at the minute.

Shame I had to switch down speeds rather than NTL manage to give me anything like what they offer though :(

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I have a bit of a newbie question to ask. Don't know if someone has already asked before but how do i check my config file?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Still 2MB in the guildford/Woking area.

I want 4MB :(

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Can i refer the grumpy person to http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=314

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

You would need a ntl: home cable modem.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

:rofl:

So true

NTL have said it will happen before the end of june - meaning it can be anywhere between now and the beginning of july..

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Seems I jumped the gun as well :( despite them saying they had changed me down to the 4 meg service, it is actually 2 meg I am getting at the moment. Ugh, wish they would have warned me it hadn't changed in my area yet, as I would have stuck out 10 meg a little longer. ah well.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

....yes for us exisiting customers, that's fine...But what about new customers?

On ntl's site, they are advertising 4mb (up to...) but if ntl can't provide 4mb to new customers. Aren't they going to land themselves in hot water legally? For existing customers it doesn't matter, as we're getting a "free" upgrade from the 2mb service. But if you're a new customer and sign a contract for a 4mb service today and ntl can't actually provide 4mb or "up to" it, then that's a diffrent matter, isn't it?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

i havnt read the whole post, so sorry if this has been asked/answered, but does anyone have any inside info about when NTL will rollout the upgrades to the different areas?

tar :)

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

...short and long answer: no.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

Im sorry but im finding all of this rather amusing.'RARARARAAAA wheres my upgrade!?' lol some of you sound like proper loonies!

'upto 4mb' means just that! Your connection will run anywere 'upto' 4mb, and obviously anywhere in between.

The way some of you are ranting on I wouldnt suprise me if NTL turned around and told y'all to sod off and stay on 2mb! .. not that it would happen, but still.

Most of us have had our fair share of problems with NTL at some point or another (to those who havent, ok fair do's, your lucky!) but that doesnt mean we have to turn around now and kick up a right old stink just because the upgrades haven't happened bang on the stroke of midnight June 1st.

Patience young Jedi's!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

When we downgraded they did tell us this. Basically the woman said that we'd be dropped to the 2mb package to be upgraded to 4mb when it comes. That's fine with me because the difference between 2mb and what I was getting is much less than the difference between 10mb and what I was getting. Saving £120 per year is worth the difference between the differences. ;)

I remember noticing a speed difference when going from 1mb to 3mb but there was hardly any difference, other than a less-reliable service, when going from 3mb to 10mb.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I simply don't get this line of thinking at all. By your own definition, it means NTL could sell it at "up to 50 meg" and just not provide that to anybody. But that's ok, because even if I get 512k, that's "up to 50 meg" right?

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

haha - lifes a b1tch aint it! Its simply how these companies do thier business. Ask some of the 10mb customers about thier 'upto 10mb' service.

You bet your life that once a 50mb connection (or similar) is around it will most probably be an 'upto 50mb' service - but since its not available then im sorry, thats a daft thing to come back with.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

I take it that nobody has actually been upgraded yet?
This thread has given me a few chuckles at the impatience of some folks!
Like the change from 512 to 600, then up to 750 etc.... it will arrive when it arrives.
It's costing nothing, so just be a bit more patient, and it will happen when NTL are ready to make it happen.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

by definition 'upto' means it can reach that figure at some point - so if you advertise it at that and no customers ever got 50meg and it was impossible to get it then you'd be falsely advertising.

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

... and since 50mb is not available can we all just shut up about it now :dozey:

haha - crackers!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

fingers crossed people wont start now asking when 50meg is being rolled out!

Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 

When is 50meg out?:LOL: