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Yes, the BNP are bad, no argument. It could also be said its because of Nazis there are immigrants here in any kind of numbers due to the death rate of the British and "White" europeans during the 1st and 2nd W-Wars.
What the liberals fail to see is the growing resentment from the average man to immigation in general. There is way to many, and they are not intergrating into our society, why would they? there is enough of say the Polish, that they can exist in enclaves. If as I fear, Labour and the Liberals do not deal with the percieved problem, more and more people will vote BNP. So before this happens, teh mainstream parties need to get their act together. IE: Shut our borders for say 3 years. Deal with the backlog of applications. deport those that fail.. (immediatly, there should not be leave to appeal) Then and only then, open our borders again, but this time control them properly, we are after al a freakin island!!! |
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Heard this same thing spouted over and over mate. maybe I should cast all non muslim members of the cable forum racist bigots, but only because some of them have expressesd BNP/racist views on here. Think is you want a reasonable open debate on here, you call for integration, but most of you (in threads discussing immigration/muslims) have already made your mind up about what we're like. Its not bleeding heart rubbish mate, its fact. |
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What about muslims who were born here? What about muslims who are white and converted? Should they all be deported to Pakistan? How about we deport the racist bigots who are spoiling our country? |
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the 1's tht were born here well not much can do, but immagration shud stop white muslims fair enuf they want to beleive nonsense (skin colour is not the problem here, despite what u r thinking) all be deported to pakistan nope i didnt say tht, now go back and read it properly. |
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Sunni, Shia, Druze, Wahhabi, know the difference? You don't actually know what the majority believe? Tell me, when the IRA were busy bombing the UK, did you believe that all Catholics or all Irish wanted the UK destroyed? |
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...and we probably have the press to thank for not hearing much about 'good' muslims.... |
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You do know that most people (including muslims) are actually decent, good and just want to be left alone to live their lives? |
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How do you know that the "majority if muslims" want to destroy the West? |
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Dilly and Rammy you really ought to get a room....
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Wise words. But perhaps the government could take note also? IE; from april any new passport applicants will have to attend a face to face interview, from 2009 anyone replacing an expired passport or a lost or stolen one will have to attend a face to face interview. Hardly not tarring people with the same brush? |
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"The British East India Company was probably the most successful chapter in the British Empire's history as it was responsible for the annexation of most of the Indian subcontinent, which would become the British Empire's largest source of revenue, along with the conquest of Hong Kong, Singapore, Ceylon, Malaya (which was also one of the largest sources of revenue) and other surrounding Asian countries, and was thus responsible for establishing Britain's Asian empire, the most important component of the British Empire." Quote:
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I ask you! ;) |
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Australia 1,300,000 Spain 761,000 United States 678,000 Canada 603,000 Ireland 291,000 New Zealand 215,000 South Africa 212,000 France 200,000 |
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There's still thousands of Brits over there, not to mention the thousands of Brits who visit on Hajj. I tell you what, the Saudis could teach many Brits a thing or two about manners and politeness. As a kid I could wander off for hours in the shopping centres without fear of harm, I wouldn't let my kids out of my sight while shopping in this country. Oh and bonus for you, they execute people for certain crimes, and lop limbs off for others, sounds right up your street actually. |
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Asian/Islamic countries with growing British populations - UAE (Inc Dubai): 55,000 Saudi Arabia: 26,000 India, Pakistan, & Bangladesh: 84,000 Singapore: 45,000 Thailand: 41,000 China: 36,000 btw, Act of Union, 1707, et al - the UK consists of more than England. :dozey: |
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The same could be said about the BNP.. Actually, the same could be said about any ethnic group as well. Most of the Irish (I have met) have been amazing people, but if you had listened only to the news in the 80s and 90s, you'd get the impression they only exist to bomb. |
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Its " got to do " with people being tarred with the same brush. I dont feel I need to explain any more thankyou ;) |
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The shocking statistic of 25% of British Muslims having terrorist sympathies, makes me wonder if the figure is actually higher, I wonder if any were to ashamed to admit that they were sympathetic to people who blow up young and old alike. In fact imo the statistics are made worse by the deafening silence of the other 75% of Muslims, I know for a fact I would not tolerate these things happening without speaking out and as I said earlier, some will say 'it's not up to Muslims to speak out', well fine then, who is it up to, I am sure that the BNP would only be to happy to give a view on their behalf |
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The main problem is, people who complain about another race are either
1. Ignorant of the facts of said race 2. Believe the hype and propoganda of said race. With some people here who just spout out the same usual racist comments, without even knowing anything about who they are racist about. They have been given facts about things, but yet their mind is clouded they still think the same way. Again locky has perceived all eastern peoples as terrorists and money grabbers, but yet earlier in the thread when I perceived English people as lager louts and hooligans, somehow I was wrong. This is the typical view that the White man is superior to all. They really need to learn history and politics. |
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Good point, however, are the extremists who want to blow up trains and buses not ignorant of the facts of said race? believe the hype and propaganda of said race? Life is not always a one way street.;) |
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Every nation has their blackspots of bad people, but what im saying is there is no point saying everyone of that race is the same as the extremists. |
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Given the support in Ireland for Sinn Fein, and Irish celebrities such as Sinead agreeing with the bombing of British children, the support for the IRA appeared much greater than 25%. I'm also sure that on many occasions when peace was being sought with the IRA, goverment officials were met with "Eire law in Ulster" Comparing the two, there was more evidence for Irish support of the IRA bombing the UK than muslim support of islamic extremists bombing the UK. |
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How can you possibly compare the two? The IRA have been trying to win a free Ireland for 100 years. They mainly targeted British forces & military establishments. The last "active" campaign continued for 30 years. They had no gripe against the USA, in fact the US assisted them in many ways, especially money. The Muslim threat hasnt been relevant for anything like that long. Their gripe is against anyone, especially the west, the USA & UK. There hasnt been enough time to make a "British" comparison yet. However, if you compare the damage the "Al-Quaeda" network has done compared to the IRA damage, worldwide, then there is no comparison. Bin lid wins hands down. |
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1971 31 October: A bomb planted by the Provisional IRA explodes in the Post Office Tower in London causing extensive damage but no injuries.[1] 1972 22 February: The Official Irish Republican Army kills seven civilians in the Aldershot bombing. 1973 10 September: The Provisional IRA set off bombs at London's King's Cross Station and Euston Station injuring 21 people.[3] 1974 4 February: Twelve people are killed by the Provisional IRA in the M62 Coach Bombing. 1974 17 June: The Provisional IRA plant a bomb which explodes at the Houses of Parliament, causing extensive damage and injuring 11 people 1974 5 October: Guildford pub bombing by the Provisional IRA leaves 5 dead and 44 injured. 1974 22 October: A bomb planted by the Provisional IRA explodes in London injuring 3 people.[5] 1974 21 November: The Birmingham pub bombings, 21 killed and 182 injured by Provisional IRA bombs. 1979 30 March: Airey Neave killed when a car bomb exploded under his car as he drove out of the Palace of Westminster car park. The Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) claimed responsibility for the killing. 1980s 1982 20 July: The Hyde Park and Regents Park bombings in London by the IRA kill eleven members of the Household Cavalry and the Royal Green Jackets. 1983, 17 December: Harrods was bombed by the IRA. Six are killed (including three police officers) and 90 wounded during Christmas shopping at the West London department store. (See 17 December 1983 Harrods bombing) 1984 12 October: Brighton hotel bombing, 5 killed and several injured in an attempt by the IRA to kill Margaret Thatcher. 1987 8 November: The Remembrance Day Bombing in Enniskillen, Northern Ireland. 11 killed by a IRA bomb which went off during Remembrance Sunday commemorations. 1989 22 September: Deal barracks bombing: Eleven Royal Marines bandsmen are killed and 22 injured when base in Deal, Kent, is bombed by the IRA. 1990s 1990 20 July: The IRA detonate a bomb at the London Stock Exchange causing damage to the building. Nobody was injured in the blast.[7] 1990 30 July: Ian Gow MP killed by a car bomb planted by the IRA while at his home in Sussex. 1991 7 February: The IRA launched a mortar shell into the back garden of 10 Downing Street. 1992 25 August: The IRA plant three fire bombs in Shrewsbury, Shropshire. Bombs were placed in Shoplatch, The Charles Darwin Centre and Shrewsbury Castle. The latter causing the most damage as the castle housed the Shropshire Regimental Museum and many priceless historical aritifacts were lost and damaged by fire and smoke. No fatalities or injuries were recorded. 1992 3 December: The IRA exploded two bombs in central Manchester, injuring 65 people.[8] 1993 20 March: Warrington bomb attacks. The first attack, on a gasworks, created a huge fireball but no casualties, but the second attack on Bridge Street killed two children and injured many other people. The attacks were conducted by the IRA. 1996 9 February: The IRA bombs the South Quay station, killing two people. 1996 15 June: The Manchester bombing when the IRA detonated a 1500kg bomb which destroyed a shopping centre and injured 206 people. 1998 15 August: The Omagh bombing in Northern Ireland. 29 killed and about 220 injured, by a car bomb attributed to the Real IRA. Yes, mainly targetted the military, obviously, I'm sure the civilians in the above attacks would agree :dozey: Quote:
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Yes. I remember. I joined the Army in 1970. I was directly present at 2 incidents. The memories never left me. I lost friends in Guildford. "There but for the grace of god, go I". Its a saying I`ve used ever since. Also, in 1976, a place & time you havent mentioned, an attack on an Army camp, which was never publicised. I hate terrorism. |
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In your tiny little part of the Kingdom, why shouldn't there be Asians going about their business? You've still not answered my question fully, why is it with all the evidence showing that the IRA had huge support, you didn't think the Irish or Catholics wanted to wipe out Britain, but 4 suicide bombers, 20 odd others arrested on terrorist related charges, and you're convinced Muslims want to kill us all. |
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Maybe he wants to comment on that other thread about those 2 mothers videoing kids fighting, he said they were sick, but in his theories would that not make all mothers in Britain sick?
Now he wonders why extremist groups do all this, if it wasnt for people like himself who have that superiority complex then would those same idiot groups be terrorising places? That is what they fail to see. BNP and others like them = evil Extremists groups in Asia = evil |
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It's amazing after 7 years the feelings are still the same and as intelligent people we haven't seen passed the differences and the lies.
Although the last few years there has been a rise in anti-muslim sites spouting out rubbish, one takes pictures from the Telegraph's news stories and uses it in his German made up stories. It is so amazing to see, and people flock to them believing it all, and even when you present evidence that the pictures are not what they are supposed to be and you show them proof, you are labelled a Muslim or terrorist sympathizer. Human Race is awesome! |
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If I didn't know better, I'd say you went looking for an excuse to carry on the discussion from the thread recently closed as it became abusive. ;)
Please do not bump any more ancient threads. As far as Cable Forum is concerned, this topic has run its course for the time being. |
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