Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Sky's announcement is perfectly clear

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/sky-channel-upgrade

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Oddly, the screenshot shows a box with version 9F0902, which doesnt seem to be in the affected list. :erm:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It was another Sky announcement that causes the confusion.

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/What-s-...4/td-p/4628421

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Clear as mud. The Irish version states
Whereas https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/What-s-...4/td-p/4628421 states
Ditto for other Sky Sports channels. Self-contradictory, so no clarity at all.

Hmm! you could have just confirmed what will be happening on Virgin. :angel:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

so with sky sports+ i assume we'll be getting what the older sky box has and only have about 100 streams?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Here what Sky + HD viewers will be getting.

Good news:
"Sky + HD customers will have limited access to the sky sports +. Sky + HD customers will have the linear channel only but not a 100 extra steams.

Bad News:
The extra stream of Sky Sports+ will only be available on Sky Q, Sky Glass and Sky Stream customers.

For full story: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/280282...box-tv-summer/

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Base on that The Sun story it look that way:

But a Source did say to me early this month:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=360

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

interesting MB. But if we cannot access the streams via tivo v6 we should be able to via the sky sports app?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

From 7pm on 5 June channel 100, the Showcase channel, will be showing programmes from from Sky Nature & the Virgin UHD channel.

This is to celebrate World Environment Day and allows those who don't receive the above two channels in their package a chance to see some programmes ordinarily unavailable to them.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Different countries, different arrangements. Just focus on that for the UK.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Not the point. Both countries are served from the same satellite, more often than not with the same services although Ireland sometimes has its own feeds with different adverts. The point is that Sky has issued conflicting information about its services in Ireland. Its May update wasn't only self-contradictory for services in Ireland, it also lists ongoing changes for Sky Cinema channels (UK & Ireland) which have already closed. It's a bit of a dog's breakfast to be honest. Not long until Wednesday and everyone gets to see what is actually going to happen.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I’m intrigued by this because I’m still at the clear as mud stage… :)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I wasn't saying it had been cleared up, just that SP is quite likely to know what is happening at VM and could have cleared up some of the confusion.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Ah, I misread that as 'reading between the lines in the confusion there might be an answer.' because of the angel emoji :D

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I think it is safe to say that - unless you have an old Sky SD only set-top-box then you'll not actually seen any change.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Reading between the lines...
Sky is progressively moving SD channels over to DVB-S2. As Sky Sports is only sold as the HD package to its UK customers, there is no point in making DVB-S2 SD services available to UK customers who already have the HD channels.
Sky customers in Ireland can still purchase either the SD or the HD version of Sky Sports. Sky's confusing updates seem to indicate that DVB-S2 SD Sports channels will be made available to Sky Sports SD customers in Ireland.
As with the situation in Ireland, Sky Sports is still available as an SD package with Virgin TV so.... (make your own predictions.)
Sky Sports SD and MUTV are still being marketed to new and existing customers on Virgin's website.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I did clear it up. I posted a link to Sky's own website. If you'd rather believe other sources, that's up to you.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I think he was on about the wording of last Friday's post on this week channel changes on the Sky Forum web site.


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https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/What-s-...4/td-p/4628421

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Assuming Sky Sports SD continues on Virgin it’ll be interesting to know if they’re simply downscaling HD or taking the Irish SD feeds and inserting their own ads.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

So far the "sources" have been Sky, which in your link indicates that Sky Sports SD customers in Ireland will lose access to Sky Sports SD during May but in their, more recent, update to their community forum, they state that Sports SD services will close permanently in the UK only with "no changes to ROI". The May update also posted changes for Sky Cinema SD channels which have already closed on Sky. I'm not sure how that is clearing it up. The only other "source" is Virgin's website but you state "If you'd rather believe other sources, that's up to you". I'm not sure what to make of that suggestion!

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Quite! which should have been obvious from the links I had already posted.

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Or a fibre feed direct from Sky's playout.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

VM are trying to persuade me to 'upgrade' from my V6 to 360.

What's the latest thinking on the pros and cons? Is it really an upgrade or is it actually a downgrade?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

l upgraded and l regret it.

Much prefer the V6 with Wish lists, Series links you can see, the EPG is too small, more memory.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I like the 360. Much more modern interface but a different experience from TiVo.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Forget thinking about it as an upgrade. It is a completely different firmware platform, so its more a migration. More like changing from Windows to Linux or Andriod to iOS. They all have their Pros & Cons.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

How many channels can you tape at a same time with TV360?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

6 channels you can record at the same time.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

As V6!

I know you get more APPS and FAST Channels with TV360 (I don't give a F about them)

I will wait until my V6 dies on me.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The extra FAST channels on the 360 are just the Pluto direct access channels. They are available on the V6 from the Pluto app, which seems a better way of accessing them. There are more FAST channels on Pluto than the few that Virgin puts on the 360 EPG. Use the app. why limit your choice?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Is it a real choice. The wife watches a few programmes via Pluto and complains bitterly that watching consecutive programmes is like being in the Tardis, back a couple of series, forward a series. No continuity at all.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

They seem to be in random order by design.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Can you set a Series links on TV360 boxes?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Yes , they are channel specific like Sky Q , TV360 doesn't have a series link manager in the same way as TiVo-software V6 does.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The TiVo remote has buttons that allow you to easily skip forward or back when watching recordings, catch up or on demand content, which we find really helpful, especially for advert breaks.

I think 360 allows skipping too, but is this only through voice commands?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I can fast forward through most things on the 360 that I've recorded. Much of the on demand stops you fast forwarding through adverts

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Still such a crazy omission... Along with no 'Recover deleted shows' option.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The sky on-demand is easy to FF through on the 360 . Normal FF on recordings is very easy either voice control or the right hand button on the circle. Better than V6 in that respect

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Let’s face it, they are just cheap and cheerful channels. I don’t think they will last that long in the end.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

A bit like half the two bob streamers with no viable business model.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

One of Sony FAST channels on LG Channels & Samsung TV Plus has Breaking Bad on it currently...

They bring in ad revenue so will last imo

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

CONFIRMED: 4Music, The Box, KISS, Magic and Kerrang TV Channels to be axe by Channel 4 on July 1st.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2024/channel-4-...-closure-date/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

A lot more decent stuff on the streamers than on any channel, although I suppose it depends on just how much dumbed down material you want to watch!

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Only really watchable if you go to the on demand section of the system. Good luck if you want to watch all the episodes of all the series in sequence in one go by watching the channel!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

CNBC HD and Deadline is reporting that Channel 5's owner Paramount Global and Skydance have agreed to terms on a merger.

https://deadline.com/2024/06/paramou...ne-1235957412/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You can show as much “decent” television as you want with a failing business model until you can’t pay the bills. Plenty of quality on Sky, BBC, ITV, etc. Viewership and sustainable funding models the steamers can only dream of.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Quite a few changes overnight.
Sky Arts SD has closed and the HD version is now available to all customers.
Eurosport 3 HD through Eurosport 9 HD pop-up channels are now in pre-launch configuration, presumably for coverage of the Olympic Games.
More details of these and other changes at https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Strange that they have removed the SD version of Sky Arts and made the HD version available to all, but haven't done the same with Sky News.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The Sky News SD satellite feed is still available, hence VM are still using it. The Sky Arts SD feed has been removed.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Sky Arts SD is still available on Sky and Freesat so that can't be the reason why it was removed.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Possibly because Sky still want to treat Sky News HD as a premium product.

Late addition (Wednesday):
NOW 90s & 00s added with a pre-launch configuration. The provisionally allocated channel number being 289 (currently used by Magic).
More details at https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

NOW:
285. The Box
286. 4Music
288. Kiss
289. Magic
290. Kerrang
291. Vevo
292. Clubland TV
293. NOW 70s
294. NOW 80s
295. NOW ROCKS
296. That's 60s

Early July:
285. VEVO
286. Clubland TV
287. NOW 70s
288. NOW 80s
289. NOW 90s and 00s
290. NOW ROCKS
291. That's 60s?
292.
293.
294.
295.
296.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Channel 4's departure from the music section will clear space for Virgin to add all of vevo's FAST music channels if they so wish, rather than just the one previously proposed.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

UKTV Live broadcast and FAST Channels rebrand from July 16th:

Dave > U&Dave
Drama > U&Drama
Yesterday > U&Yesterday
W > U&W
UKTV Play > U
UKTV Play Heroes > U&Real Heroes
UKTV Play Laughs > U&Laughs
UKTV Play Full Throttle > U&Transport
UKTV Play Uncovered > U&The Past

https://advanced-television.com/2024...ching-july-16/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Another one of those weird and pointless rebrands.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It seems a bit disjointed, leaving out Alibi, Gold & Eden. The U& "you and" names are probably going to get tiresome after a while.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The channels only on Sky and Virgin will be rebrand by 2025.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

That's assuming that the rebrand lasts that long. UKTV has a track record of quietly dropping some of their rebrands.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I doubt anyone will use the U& when talking about the channels.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I still called GOLD - UK Gold.

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I still even called Virgin Media - Telewest some days.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

UKTV will on the relevant channels, the public will do what they always do and carry on using the old, familiar, names. That's until UKTV get bored of the names, as they did with UK Gold, UKTV Gold, "Go on laugh daily" G.O.L.D etc.

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Surely you mean Yorkshire Cable. ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Since I joined in 1994 (Launch in my area) my Cable been called United Artists > Telewest > NTL Telewest > Virgin Media UK

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Well some of them have stupid names anyway, so no change there.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I've logged into my account and found Sky Sports UHD for £3.50 a month for 18 months. Does anyone know where to find the terms and conditions on the offer, if you can cancel at any time and when the offer finishes? I had a look last night, but couldn't see anything.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

As if the new names weren't stupid enough, there's also some weird inconsistencies that make them look even worse. Why is it U&DRAMA (all caps) but U&Dave for example.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

interested to hear this myself

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It's put me in a new 18 month contract, which is naughty considering I can't find any terms and conditions for the offer.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Are you sure that it has? Last time I made a change they created a new contract document that at first glance looked like it had but the remaining term was the same.

Not that I’d expect Virgin are above re-contracting people making minor changes without telling them!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Yeah, minimum contract length, 18 months. I'm on a 30 day rolling contract at the minute.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Coming soon:

Aaj Tak (Hindi language news channel) - provisionally on channel 626 and available to all Virgin TV subscribers.

Zee Punjabi (Punjabi language general entertainment channel) - provisionally on channel 811 in the Asian Mela pack.


For further details of these and other changes see: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Just what everyone has been waiting for. :p:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:

Sky News SD removed from channel 603 and replaced with a closure slate.

Sky News HD now available to all on channel 602.

Tiny Pop placeholder removed after 93 days - any recordings will no longer be playable.

Aaj Tak pre-launch genre changed from International to News.

Further details: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Good to see the Sky News oddity dealt with.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Been given a new deal with virgin media which is reasonable. Have to pay for BT sports however which I knew about. My questions are:

1) has anyone managed to get money off Bt sports (TNT sports) if your contract is nearly over and you’re on the max package or is it a fight I can’t win?

2) do I have to move to the new 360 box or has anyone managed to keep the v6?

3) do retentions bother these days or shall I just go with the offer I had via email?

Mum doesn’t really want to lose her recordings but we may have to as my bill doubles in August then our contract ends!


Any advice from the legends on here would be appreciated. None of the sarcasm people from certain people!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You can stay on V6 but you probably won't get as good a deal.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Cancel, refuse any renewal offer when you cancel and wait for a call back. I went from paying just over £90pm to £66pm - and kept Sky Sports / Cinema and TNT Sports.

Hope it works for you 🙏

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

What if it doesn't. Are you stuck with the cancellation?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Fortunately that has never happened! I got a call back within a couple of days. And I kept the V6.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

To you .... Not automatically going to happen to everyone else

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I renewed in march and kept my 2 TiVo boxes, kept sky movies, TNT sports, Sky sports and viaplay and have gig 1 broadband and netflix for £82

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Virgin Media viewers may lose TNT Sports UK on August 1st if Virgin Media 02 and Warner Bros Discovery don't sign a new deal.

One source said the companies were in “hot dispute” as:

*Virgin Media was seeking a significant price reduction for the new 3-year deal
*TNT is trying to maintain the existing terms.
*Eurosport will stay if new deal is not sign.

More information at https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33712770

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

My renewal in March was the same package but on 360 less TNT and Viaplay... £64 which was an extension of prior contract. Just lost TNT

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The pre-launch configuration has been updated, moving NOW 90s & 00s from channel 289 to channel 287, so no longer clashing with Magic TV.

Further details of this and other recent changes at https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Virgin Media UK has confirmed that some Music channels to move on July 1st....

*NOW 70s will move to Channel 285 (On Channel 293 right now).
*NOW 80s will move to Channel 286 (On Channel 294 right now).
*NOW 90s & 00s will launch to Channel 287.
*NOW ROCK will move to Channel 288 (On Channel 295 right now).

Source: V6 Boxes.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The Eurosport UHD pop-up service has been reconfigured and moved to a new transport stream. Presumably in preparation for coverage of the Olympic Games.

Further details of this and other recent changes at https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Maxit and legacy XL / Full House subscription pack codes were removed from all TNT Sports channels overnight.
Further details: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Zee Punjabi to launch on Virgin Media UK on July 1st on Channel 811.

https://www.bizasialive.com/zee-punj...imetime-shows/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:
The former Box Plus channels from Channel 4 have now closed.
A minor reshuffle of the music section of the EPG.
Asian Mela subscribers get an additional channel - Zee Punjabi but lose Hindi language lifestyle channel NDTV Good Times, which closes today on Virgin TV.
For full details of these and other changes see: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Confirmed on this link they will be 7 Eurosport linear pop-up channels on Virgin
https://www.eurosport.com/olympics/o...68/story.shtml

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

"I dont believe it!"
I've got to put a PIN in to watch 'One Foot in the Grave' at 8:30pm !

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

News: Paramount's board (Owner of Channel 5, MTV, Nick HD and Comedy Central) has approved a merger with Skydance.

A deal should be announced officially as soon as tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Lucas_Shaw/statu...30277974208769

Source: Lucas Shaw & X

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

That's 60s now renamed to That's Memories in the EPG, finally, but still in the Music section ��

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It's an outrage. I'm writing to my MP about it.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It was renamed overnight on the 6th July. Any EPG movement could take much longer. With That's Media's track record, they may have switched back to a music format by the time Virgin decides to change the channel number.

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You should probably glue yourself to the road in protest...

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Or spray the VM HQ building with orange paint!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

my contract comes up at the end of August. this is the closest to the end of contract I've ever got without having renewed up or been emailed via a query by someone.

the virgin media/o2 era seems to have gotten rid of a lot of those helpful staff.

off to retentions from August. Anyone got any tips on how to get a decent offer?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Ditto:cool:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:

UKTV Channel names have adopted the new U& format.

The Eurosport pop-up channels have arrived on the EPG ready for coverage of the Olympics.

For full details of these and other changes see: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

https://x.com/UKCTVC/status/1813002992876200023
https://x.com/UKCTVC/status/1813025989972402684

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

ill dm you if i have any joy mate let me know how you get on if you can!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

No problem :p:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Find out what Sky et al are charging for a package similar to your own and challenge them (retentions - thinking of leaving) to get as close to that as possible. It's a bit luck of the draw who you get and how helpful they feel. You can always ring back and try your luck with someone different. The nuclear option is say you're leaving and stick to it, they will probably ring you back later with their best offer but it's possible they won't ring you or you miss the call in which case it's best to have a plan B in place.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

ah very helpful thank you for this. my current package has this:

Additional discount that ends on 31 August 2024
+ Ultimate bundle offer - 18 month saving, ends on 31 August 2024
+ You're receiving a 3 discount. If you change your package you may lose this
discount which will end on 31 August 2024

so does that mean i can start going through retentions after the 31st July? or sooner?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

31 July because that is the earliest that you could give notice should their offer be unsatisfactory.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I believe once you get into your final month or later you're in the strongest bargaining position, so yes 31st July or thereafter. Telling them an alternative plan will definitely focus their mind and it shows you mean business. As it happens I'm a couple of weeks after you contract wise and strongly thinking of ditching them after having had cable services for almost 30 years.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

aye i'm 25 years in. ill let you know how i get on. tnt sports deal ending 31st July may make things interesting anyway. hopefully a resolution is found by then (but knowing virgin media it'll be last minute before the football season anyway)

thanks for your advice!