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Just got my GHIC (which was requested before Chrimbo).
They could at least have matched the blue to the new passport! |
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That great big Union Jack motif will drive the Guardianistas nuts. Imagine them having to produce one of these after they break their big toe while holidaying at their gite.
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Extending the WA would have shovelled ££ billions to the EU, which is exactly what THEY wanted. It would only have put off the day when they'd hit us with their next bit of nastiness. Far better to have gotten out (it honours the Referendum) and then use the options available as a last resort if we can't overcome these teething problems. Furthermore, had we extended the WA partly because of the Pandemic, might we not have been in the situation the Brussels is now battling? |
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If we'd have extended the withdrawal agreement until 31st December 2021 then I'd like to think the country would be far more normal when it withdrew from the EU than it is now. That would still have honoured the Referendum result but been more beneficial for the UK's hard-working businesses struggling to cope with the double whammy of the pandemic/home-schooling and Brexit. |
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I don’t consider the UK government’s agreement to a treaty between members of a club we are no longer members of, to be binding on current policy - nor even to be relevant. My old job in corporate affairs once, briefly, compelled me to make a case for liberalisation of casino regulations, something with which I was not very comfortable and which I tolerated as only a minor aspect of my job. Thankfully I left that job long ago and I’m free to express the view that casino regulations in the UK need no liberalisation at all. |
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Another Brexit jobs bonus for the EU.
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You could always balance them out a bit. I know that it would go against your narrative. (maybe a couple of paywalls) http://www.infrastructure-intelligen...t-construction https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-brexit-boost https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...e-brexit-vote/ https://www.theactuary.com/news/2020...s-after-brexit https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...o-brexit-deal/ ---------- Post added at 16:45 ---------- Previous post was at 16:43 ---------- Quote:
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I've already posted the jobs boost for Nissan when it happened, not weeks later. Apologies if posting this good news story upset your narrative, I must try harder next time. :D |
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Let us not be in doubt that the EU institutions are under orders to make it difficult for the UK. The evidence is too strong.
1/ Permanently banning our shellfish from being landed in the EU. 2/ The vaccine bru-ha-ha. 3/ The inability of musicians etc to tour the EU. 4/ The diplomatic status spat (we musty not give way - the EU is an International Organisation not a state). Fortunately, the UK can be difficult on the issuance of fishing licences within our 6 mile limit. It is ridiculous that they can land molluscs caught in our waters but we can't. |
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The Government signed a rushed deal and our fishermen are suffering as a result. The government's solution is to throw more taxpayer's money in their direction. |
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I assume all the Eastern European shops(eg Polish) are having difficulty getting their stock into this country? Or are we too soft.
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Import red tape kicks in from April and July this year.
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I'd better stock up on my sour cucumbers and Polish mustard.
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My favourite, of course, was the curry house in Warsaw run by a Singaporean with a Polish partner. I used to take coriander to them from the UK in exchange for free meals! Can't do that now. |
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Anticipating Gexit might be a little premature, however the EU’s vaccine debacle hasn’t gone down at all well in the Fatherland, where good opinion of the EU is increasingly hard to find.
Polling was conducted for Der Spiegel: https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...6-3382756eb394 (in German, obvs) Guido has a summary in English: https://order-order.com/2021/02/12/g...cine-disaster/ |
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I don't see financial services in any of those agreements mentioned in the source site. Switzerland deal includes financial services. Also Brazil, not in the list but:
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I wan't sure which trade deal's Old Boy's statement "Our new trade deals will include financial services" was referring to as these seem to elude many countries. |
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Talks to improve the agreements with Canada, Norway, Iceland, Mexico and Turkey will commence this year. In the case of Canada, both sides have committed to finalising these negotiations by the end of 2023. This is a big programme of work which will take a good few years to complete, but clearly the government will prioritise those countries that are likely to allow us to profit the most from including the service sector, including financial services. The deal we have with Japan includes financial services following recent negotiations, but obviously the rollover agreements do not. |
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I was impressed with yesterday's BBC Newsnight wherein Mark Urban analysed the UK's relationship with the EU and vice-versa: "our friends in Europe" or a "competitor"? His conclusion was that the EU sees the UK as a competitor and if the UK diverges from their rules not to their liking, the EU can invoke penalty clauses in the treaty.
He also considered it likely that the Guvmin will indeed make us more competitive by chipping away at EU red tape and speculated how much of that the EU will "allow" before triggering treaty clauses. My takeaway from the segment was that Brussels, backed by 27 countries, was afraid of the UK becoming too successful at the EU's expense. "Level playing field" - except with 27 countries they've got a screwed up idea of what that means. Sod 'em. Btw, if Scotland goes its own way, we'll be even more competitive. |
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On the German point, nothing could be truer. They fiddled the Euro by bringing Greece, Portugal and Italy in, despite their deficits, thus devaluing the DM to lower their production costs without increasing the price of Bratwurst. We need to cut seriously loose from the EU, although interim "closeness" to our enemy is necessary while we line everything up. Yes, Brussels is our enemy in the non-military sense. |
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I think most people have woken up to the fact of increased bureaucracy when exporting to the EU. Indeed, some have given up. But what about that bonfire of EU red tape?
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I obviously disagree with your second sentence. |
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The fish business - we can't land molluscs; they won't grant financial equivalence even though that equivalence is baked into our current legislation and regulations - to name just two. Plus the treaty terms on which they insisted regarding diversion from their rules. What evidence is there to the contrary of my assertion? Your first paragraph is plain ridiculous (red highlight). You introduce a straw man of what Boris is not doing, and a far fetched straw man at that. What a pity that you've got nothing better to say. Sorry. |
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Regarding molluscs, this comes from a phytosanitary standard for imported bi-valve shellfish that is implemented globally. The US, Japan, etc have the same rules. Bi-valve shellfish are filter-feeders. They suck in water, extract the nutrients, expel it. As I'm sure you know, eating bad shellfish from poor waters always ends badly. This can be prevented by depuration. When the UK was a member of the EU, it was very happy for the EU to require pre-import depuration of imported shellfish from Class 2 waters. Firstly, because it was a good idea on health grounds, and secondly, it benefited UK bi-valve shellfish producers and penalised those from outside the EU. However, we were not awake enough to grasp that once outside the EU Customs Union, UK shellfish in the EU would be imported and hence we have to perform certified depuration to enable the shellfish to be exported. The EU is a big trading partner on our doorstep but also a competitor. Obviously, it will work in its member countries' best interests. Signing a trade deal for manufactured goods which the EU has a surplus on does not grant us equivalence in services which we have a surplus on. If the EU can nab some of that business for itself then it will. I advise you review my sentence about Boris. No strawman there but let me expand. Boris knows that we're a high-cost, high-value country. There's no point trying to slash legislation and become a low-cost country. Hence, achieving a level-playing field is not a problem for the UK so not a tough point to yield on. |
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The EU is by its very nature a protectionist organisation with rules which favour its' member states and businesses within. The UK electorate voted to reject the protection of the single market both at the referendum and subsequent general elections. It's what the majority of the public wanted |
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After all, the EU has made much of the special case of the UK's proximity to the EU. Molluscs should come into that category for obvious reasons. The fact that it doesn't is evidence of the EU's intent on punishing the UK for Brexit. They are the enemy. Simples - and your advocacy does you no favours. |
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And your vitriol does you none - they, like us, want the best deals; does that make us their ‘enemy", or just competitors?
We wanted to be a "third country" - we are being treated as one. |
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If it wasn't in the deal, it wasn't in the deal. Simples. In practice, I'm sure George Eustice knows this and is prepared to accept a bit of small restructuring in the fishing sector. If a few people blame it on the EU, even better! Higher-value molluscs from better quality UK waters are not impacted by the requirement that molluscs in Class 2 waters are and these account for most of our mollusc exports. But yes, we had over time to build the depuration plants before 31 December but did not. |
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I'm not sure that this will go down well with the newly appointed EU Minister Lord Frost despite its strong backing.
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All I ask now is that they are not referred to as "our friends in Europe". It is a hollow term in the political context. |
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With friends like them, who needs enemies? I think there should be another government campaign to buy British. That will not only hurt the EU in the pocket, it would help to recoup some of our losses on this deal, before we forge new and better relationships with the rest of the world.
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I do the food shop for me and my dad, I just buy what I want, and will happily pay more for British goods, the only real time I look at cost is if there are offers etc. |
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Cars: Japanese Phones: Not made in the EU Laptops: Not made in the EU Clothes: Not made in the EU Wine: No longer from the EU TV: Japanese Cheese: Not made in the EU Gherkins: Polish Mustard: Polish Salami: Stopped eating Fruit: Not from the EU Daily Telegraph: A reasonable newspaper. |
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Re food shopping, I agree with you - I try to buy British, and even then, local foodstuffs if possible. Haven’t found anywhere in Yorkshire growing bananas, pineapples, and citrus fruit, though... ;) ---------- Post added at 15:03 ---------- Previous post was at 15:02 ---------- Quote:
btw, if you’re using Google, the data centres that you use are in the EU (Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, & Finland).... |
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I could have pointed out that most Japanese makes of TVs are built in Europe (Sony in Slovakia, LG in Poland, Samsung in Hungary & Slovakia, Panasonic in the Czech Republic). If he has a Dell laptop, it will have been built in Limerick. But I didn't, because, after all, it was just a throwaway joke line, so I thought a "not wrong, just very simplistic" answer was more appropriate... ;) |
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Well my A Ford Kuga I bought from new and is 18 months old Phone was bought at release (Note 10+ 5G) Laptop no need to replace ATM TV no need to replace ATM Wine Nope, spirit drinkers here, yes I do have 22 different brands my favourite is Chase Vodka which is made from British potatoes. we do drink British beer and Cider. Yes some items are not British but as I have said I buy British if I can. |
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Some good insight from fisherman Tom Haward on the shellfish situation.
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Over 2 years ago the shellfish producers knew they wouldn't be able to export to the EU without purification plants and they sat back, did nothing. |
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It's a pity that politicians (except, of course, John Redwood), are consummate liars.
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“Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards.” John Redwood, Conservative MP, July 2016. |
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Sounds like Redwood is not an exception... ;) |
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Another Brexit bonus for the EU.
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And the EU have the gall to refuse UK produced food.
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Good one, Nomad. You will have sent Andrew off on a hunt for more half empty news to post here.
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Might this Vauxhall problem have happened anyway, COVID and all that?
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The Ellesmere Port plant has been “at risk” every single time it’s needed re-tooled for a new Astra, going back decades. The heart of GM’s strategy in Europe was always the Opel brand, and Ellesmere Port and Luton were the symbolic last remnants of Vauxhall. Now, the new parent company has changed and Covid has slaughtered the economy. Plus, even if we were still in the EU, there are generous ‘structural funds’ (a.k.a. ‘Bribes’) available to suck these sorts of manufacturing jobs eastwards. If they do announce it’s shutting I have no doubt the usual suspects will greet the news with barely concealed glee and insist it proves them right about Brexit. The Portuguese former Renault COO who now runs Stellantis may even use it as a convenient excuse. The facts will of course speak otherwise.
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Sales of electric cars are included in the EU trade deal, so not affected by Brexit.
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I'm optimistic on Ellesmere Port, Seph, if Nissan is anything to go by. The fact that we're in discussions is very positive. The proposed battery factory at Coventry might just tip things. |
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I'm hopeful as Stellantis has previously said the merger between PSA and FCA was not about closing plants. The UK is a big market for the company. Let's see how things develop. |
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Indeed we might see the Stellantis plants taken over by Nissan, for example. |
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So adjusting for population size, not much different. |
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I'm (not) surprised Andrew hasn't post this yet.
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Remainers tend to be half-empty as in I-told-you-so. Sometimes they put in the odd bit of non-bad news but quickly revert to type.
I'd like to know how Lord Frost is getting on with sorting out GB to NI goods traffic? To my mind this is an Article 16 matter for which there is a due process. |
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Animal husbandry in the US is among the worst in the world. Why, even if safe, would we want to promote that?
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The issue is the UK government ban on new ICE-engine cars after 2030. This means for the factory to have a long-term future it must be re-tooled to produce entirely new electric vehicles, and the problem with electric vehicle manufacturing is the batteries. They’re big, they’re heavy and they’re difficult to transport. They’re actually covered by the Brexit trade deal for manufacture in the EU, transport to the UK for fitting in new cars and then re-export to EU markets, but the logistics make this largely moot. You can’t even put them through the channel tunnel for safety reasons. The biggest question mark over the entire automotive industry in the UK is how quickly battery production can be scaled up, in factories within the UK, close enough to the vehicle assembly plants to mitigate the transport problems. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56190072 |
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It's wishful thinking not to see the Brexit connection - the uncertainty over a trade deal with the EU from 2016 until recently has prevented investment in UK battery manufacture. |
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If anyone on the forum is between jobs, there are 700 people needed now in Cornwall. This is from the Daily Mail of all places!
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