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		I wonder how many of the thousands of people fined for breaking lockdown rules will be seeking advice to see if this now means they can challenge their fixed penalty notice? Has 'doing what I thought is best' now become a legitimate defence?  I remember when my old dad (God rest his sole) got a speeding ticket from a camera on the A1 because he thought it was best that he broke the speed limit a bit to get to the next services before he pissed himself :rolleyes: 
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 He and you have a strange definition of "safeguarding": putting your child in a metal box for 4 hours with someone who has a deadly disease, for most people, does not make the grade. The other bizarre thing here is that Cummings has the resources of the Government at his disposal. He could have asked for childcare to be arranged and it would have been done instantly. In fact, the mother of the child in question has a sister living 2 streets away apparently. You are seemingly so angry not because he is innocent but, exactly as you reveal, he is the High Priest of Brexit ..  | 
		
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		I've heard a rumour which I shall not repeat about personal circumstances that might make people more sympathetic although it would still raise the same questions. 
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 And putting a child in a car with two infected adults at the end of March for five hours? Seriously? That's not in the child's interests. And, as a QC and the media have pointed out, that particular trip broke the rules and law. I'm really hoping that Cummings is honourable enough to do the decent thing today or pulls a great explanation out of the bag. The latter is my preference.  | 
		
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 You should stay at home as much as possible. The reasons you may leave home include: for work, where you cannot work from homegoing to shops that are permitted to be open - to get things like food and medicine, to exercise or spend time outdoors, any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person.  | 
		
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 He broke no rules because he was safeguarding his son - thus, he did nothing wrong. It's none of your business who he chose to look after his son. That decision is his and not yours, how dare you decide who should look after his son, mind your own business. You would not tolerate somebody dictating to you what to do with your family, so do not tell others what or how they should manage with theirs when you do not know of their personal circumstances, in particular the childs health. ---------- Post added at 14:50 ---------- Previous post was at 14:49 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 "I saw a man who looked like Cummings in Durham". Yeah and I can say I saw Elvis at my local Tesco's last week. Bullshit! ---------- Post added at 14:59 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 This vulnerable child situation is clutching at the end of a very thin straw. There's hundreds of thousands of vulnerable children out there - none facilitating 260 mile journeys to second homes. It's also broadly irrelevant that situation has been dealt with by the police having spoken to a family member - consistent with the regulations which don't automatically lead to fixed penalties or arrests.  | 
		
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 Let's hope that Cummings has a full and frank answer to this mess. ---------- Post added at 15:05 ---------- Previous post was at 15:01 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 What part of this do you not understand Andrew? It's utter lies by pathetic Activists, they saw him but didn't think to take any pictures... Thus, no actual solid proof, just one word against anothers. ---------- Post added at 15:09 ---------- Previous post was at 15:06 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 I've no admiration for Cummings but his family decision on how to protect his child is where I side with him. You lot give him no quarter because of Brexit - I'm sure of that. Witch hunt and revenge.  | 
		
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 I fully expect Dominic Cummings to apologise in some way, expressing an error of judgement and claim to have been acting in good faith. What then? Will he just be lying? Or will he have actually used a sense of perspective notably absent from some on this thread.  | 
		
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 I expect him to acknowledge this shortly.  | 
		
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 However, "error of judgement" might be somewhere we could meet on this as there is blurring as to legal interpretation.  | 
		
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 I'm also not convinced two parents suffering Coronavirus symptoms would have taken a child on a four and a half hour car journey when one of them has a sister nearby in London.  | 
		
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 I do not read any newspapers and I do not care what crap is written in any of them. They are all as bad as one another.  | 
		
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 Cummings involvement in Brexit, holds no interest in me, I voted to leave not because Cummings championed it, I voted to leave, to leave a corrupted EU and I would do so again and again without any aid from the Dom.  | 
		
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		I'm genuinely not influenced by my position on Brexit I'm more concerned by the credibility of the Government tanking at a time it's important that people trust it - during a public health emergency. 
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 The 4½ hour journey is neither here nor there; one hour? two hours? three hours? 260 miles. Why bring the distance into it?  | 
		
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		Because being closer than 2 metres for more than 15 minutes with someone with Coronavirus is dangerous. 
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		Most people in the same vehicle would be, yes. 
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		Why can't these things ever start on time? 
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 Just about anything you do is potentially dangerous. What it means is you're more likely to catch the virus. Which may (or may not) mean you then have symptoms, which in turn (in a small number of cases) may become more serious. A lot of the pictures online show the press crowding around Dominic Cummings, and his house, in packs. I hope they are not current pictures ....  | 
		
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 It's fundamental to the restrictions we will face for months to come unless the Government gets the situation under control.  | 
		
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		I reckon this is him just trying to wind up the journalists 
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		15 feet, cheers Dom. 
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 Doesn't really add much to what we didn't already know really. Confirms he didn't return which we weren't' sure about (although the strong denials did mean we suspected he didn't).  | 
		
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		I disagree with some of his actions, and a bit doubtful about some of his explanations, but all in all, I thought it was a good explanation. 
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		I still think they’ve extracted maximum distraction value out of the story before making any serious attempt to shut it down though. 
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 You cannot have rules for everybody and then somebody decides personally he wants to break it.  | 
		
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		Journalists now trying to get CCTV of every service station going up to Durham. 
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 It is interesting that your definition of "safeguarding" is to lock someone in a car for 4+ hours with a person who has a deadly pandemic.  | 
		
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		‘I drove to Barnard Castle to test my eyesight’  
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 This sort of stuff is just plain obvious and even with the Government's poor messaging, most of the country gets it. I'm surprised you do not?  | 
		
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 The Press are taking this very personally because Cummings holds them in contempt and they see it as a chance to settle scores. The Left is sticking the boot in because it’s their first real chance to unleash unrestricted, thermonuclear self-righteous fury on the Tories after months of enforced restraint in the face of a national crisis. But what’s really telling is the number of Tories who are also prepared to go for him. Don’t don’t underestimate a Tory MP’s instinct for self-preservation. If they thought this was an issue of basic competence reflecting on the government, and on the man who just won them a landslide, they wouldn’t be out to get Cummings right now. That they feel safe in doing so should tell you everything you need to know about what’s really going on here.  | 
		
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		A lot of umming and ahhing and his nose has definitely grown longer.... 
	Do they have a good Specsavers in Barnard Castle ?  | 
		
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 As before, the childcare I could give you (whilst not breaking the rules, you could argue morally it goes against what the country as a whole was trying to achieve) I’d like to see anyone try to defend his excuse for driving from Durham to Barnard Castle.  | 
		
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		There we have it. He’s innocent and did right thing, under the circumstances. 
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		I wonder why he didn't say the test drive was to test his stamina rather than eyesight? Seems a bit silly to load the family into the car to do that. 
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 Will they apologise to him of they find nothing? Hypocritically no, I am sure.  | 
		
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 Nope, the official guidelines were to leave your home to exercise once a day and not to travel/drive to take exercise, this was at the time he made his journey. The eyesight excuse is precisely that an excuse. He broke the rules. End of ---------- Post added at 17:49 ---------- Previous post was at 17:45 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 Oh be quiet, had this been a special advisor to labour or the Lib Dem’s you would more than likely be egging the press on and be baying for blood  | 
		
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 Health reasons are to visit a health care professional. Did he do this?  | 
		
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 It's a pretty mild way to break it for sure.  | 
		
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		Unlucky for the government scientist who lost his job.for his affairs  during lockdown. He should've just said he was worried his penis had stopped working and he wanted to double check? 
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 You cannot compare someone who cannot keep his dick in his pants to someone genuinely ill, if your trying to do so, give up now because it is just utterly ridiculous to even bring the two things in the same argument.  | 
		
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 Durham Constabulary has issued a further statement confirming that an officer spoke to Dominic Cummings' father on 1 April. The force says: "Mr Cummings confirmed that his son, his son's wife and child were present at the property. "He told the officer that his son and son's wife were displaying symptoms of coronavirus and were self-isolating in part of the property." The force adds: "We can further confirm that our officer gave no specific advice on coronavirus to any members of the family and that Durham Constabulary deemed that no further action was required in that regard." But the officer did "provide the family with advice on security issues". HERE  | 
		
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 The excuse for driving between Durham & Barnard Castle is not valid. ---------- Post added at 18:12 ---------- Previous post was at 18:10 ---------- Quote: 
	
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 He has left his residence for medical reasons, it's perfectly valid.  | 
		
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		Interestingly he’s just stated that his parents house is five miles from the hospital in Durham (Dryburn) yet to test his eyesight he drives to Barnard Castle rather than into say central Durham then out onto the A689 and to the A1 and back. 
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 *the one he had driven over 260 miles to keep safe.  | 
		
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 An headache is hardly a serious ailment. So I doubt it would save you had you been stopped. Dom and his wife were just coming over far more serious issues, potentially, Covid-19. They were outside of the quarantine required.  | 
		
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 Next? (and btw this is not a license for you to barrage me with constant nitty gritty arguments Mythica.) ---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:45 ---------- Oh look, I sign in to twitter to see the following trending: News · Trending #ScumMedia Trending with: #mediascum Dom 1 - Media 0  | 
		
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 First of all I’d like to apologise for the ‘oh be quiet’ comment written in frustration. Hopefully you will accept. However, I think the press would be all over any senior advisor regardless of which political party he was working for if they acted in the same way.  | 
		
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		You just know how stone cold crazy this is getting when you have pratts like Alastair Campbell lecturing the government on lying when he and his former boss lied through their teeth on WMD and took us in to an unnecessary war. 
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 Seriously, these character assassination tactics are pathetic and I think his interview this afternoon has done him a lot of good with the public. These vindictive reporters are doing themselves no favours, and frankly, this will show up the BBC to be anti-Conservatives for all to see. That will do their 'politically neutral' argument no good at all!  | 
		
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 Edit to add that if anything did happen then I'd doubt your insurance would cover you either.  | 
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