Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well MM you do seem to have a penchant for the posh gear.;):D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I don't know why I feel so sorry for Virgin, I always resented the way they killed off Tivo series 1 but it is still sad that in a months time I'll be without a Tivo for the first time in over 15 years. We all tried to point them in the right direction but enough is enough for me, I'm out. :cry:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yep, after 28 years of cable TV I'm having Sky Q installed next week. Just broadband from Virgin then. TiVo was head and shoulders above the competition when Virgin introduced it but the promise was squandered and they have sat on their hands for years.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Is the DIN socket meant to plug into a lead with a SCART socket on the other end? If this is to be LGI's standard box then I would imagine that getting hold of cables would not be a problem and someone on Amazon would supply them even if VM didn't.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Only works if the port is enabled. Virgin (and tbh probably others) have a track record of shipping boxes with disabled ports.

Frankly I'd be surprised if a new UHD capable box had components to drive an old fashioned scart socket (Sky Q doesn't) and, if it did, it's probably a sign it's designed by a team with more of a foot in the past than a view of the future!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

My mind is hazy on this, but I thought that Sky had the franchise for Tivo series 1 and behind the scenes were developing Sky+ and then dropped Tivo.


Once the VM Tivo appeared, wasn't it Tivo who dropped support for series 1?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Agreed but I bet I'm not the only one still using an analogue video sender to watch on a 2nd tv. They won't allow that though, as they can sell you TWO tivos. (I'm certainly not one to want to watch tv on a tablet :rolleyes:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Not really Den , do you not agree though it looks like one of those really cheap nasty boxes you buy for a bedroom TV you know the brands I'm referring to.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Originally sky yes but then Tivo went independent and you could use it with Freeview, Sky or Cable by paying a monthly sub for the guide data or a one off Lifetime payment. Then Virgin entered into a UK exclusive agreement (as I understand it) with Tivo and the monthy subs/ "lifetime agreements" were null and voided, effectively killing it off although some clever people kept it going at least for a while.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It looks okay MM as you have to remember that famous motto of "its not what it looks like but what is in the box" as l have seen wonderful looking machines but basically when it came to what was inside they were total duds.:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Agree with you however when you've spent thousands on a decent TV you want your AV equipment you connect to it to look quality also. I primarily look at specs however it also has to look OK when purchasing.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I honestly think it looks ok too. It's small and dark so is unlikely to be noticed by many.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I guess it will have all the bells and whistles and probably cheap to manufacture which from a customer point probably means better deals which is good.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

While it's true looks don't guarantee quality, this, as someone who has sourced electronics from Asian factories, looks like a different problem - companies seeking to get the lowest price product by buying the kind of generic piece of kit normally sold by no-name brands.

It is surely possible to get very high quality products from outsourced manufacturing, as Apple and others prove, but by active involvement in all stages of development and manufacturing, not by buying a generic box, the design objectives for which are paper specs and absolute minimum cost.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Thousands on a decent TV.:shocked:

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

True for many of us here tracking this because we have or are upgrading to UHD. UHD is only worthwhile >50" and 4K + standards-compatible HDR still doesn't come cheap!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Didn't VM themselves say it was a cheap box designed only to be multi-purpose. i.e. they can put the current VM Tivo firmware on it initially and replace it with their own platform when ready. So probably misleading to make it look like a whizzy new Tivo if that is only a short term objective???

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I assume that LGI has been very heavily involved in the design of this box which will be in use across all of its European businesses, with Horizon software utilised outside the UK. (They've not just bought a few million from Alibaba off-the-peg with their branding on.)

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The rumours are that Horizon will end up licencing Tivo elements so the two platforms will probably be quite similar in the end. Tivo is only software not hardware in the UK; the only hardware style of Tivo is the remote control.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

OK. I see, thanks. I did wonder how they would market upgrading for a fee something you don't own and that would be changed into something different in an unspecified period of time. (e.g. pay £200 plus an extra monthly fee, for the new Tivo that might not be a Tivo in a year or twos time :shocked:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Interestingly, in the USA Tivo has now voided its lifetime agreements for Tivo Series 1 which will cease to work at the end of next month. Tivo says there are about 3,500 active Series 1 Tivos, and it's offering owners a $75 prepaid Visa card.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yeah I saw that, isn't it something to do with changing to a more reliable source of guide data but that would need software updates which they aren't doing for the series 1's. (Might not have the details quite right?)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I would have assumed that, but that box doesn't inspire confidence and I've seen it happen before - some new hire promises to get a box "just as good" for a fraction of the price and it (mostly!) ends in tears! Fingers crossed.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Has it actually been confirmed the new box will do HDR, both versions of it? I haven't seen anything about this anywhere.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

my V6 was installed this afternoon, can't say too much due to a NDA

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

....Can you say whether its faster than the current box? That can't be breaking too many rules.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Good point. Who knows? But with Netflix, Amazon and Sky all offering it they had better! It is already pretty universally reported in any review that HDR and colour palette is more important than 4K, having a much greater impact on the user experience. If it wasn't there I'd expect this box to be laughed out of court.

If it is I'd expect only HDR10, but you never know!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

.... SkyQ doesn't do HDR that I was aware of, or does it?

I seem to recall reading that Sky were not going to implement HDR until it had become standardised.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Wow, you are right, I missed that. They have 10-bit colour but not yet HDR. Don't think their "standards" argument will hold water for long. With UHD Blu-ray finalised HDR10 is a clear standard. Dolby Vision a nice to have option.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Its really quick, you click my shows and its there instantly

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Very quick indeed, no lag at all

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Positive news l would say.....

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Good to know.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Praise indeed!
Are you convinced the TV side is showing signs that a lot of attention is being paid to it? What with the new speedy 4K box en route, many of the missing Sony and Channel 5 Group channels now on the platform together with Universal HD, it's increasingly difficult not to think this.

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What time on Saturday shall I come round with a few tinnies? :D

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Wait for it as l can see the doomsayers of this forum coming out later tonight to have their say.;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Can you watch recordings through the app? Or do you know of that is a function thats in the pipeline or not

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I think the time to judge VM's "new" tv service would be several months/a few years after the launch of the new tivo. If it still works then and it is fast, then great. But, all we can go by is history and the history of cable tv is lousy.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Good question but I suspect the NDA will inhbit a reply. I think the answer would be 1 no and 2 yes.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

We could put a call out on the community forum :D More than half the threads on the homepage are complaints about speed.

But joking aside, even the current Tivo can manage when first installed or wiped clean, it's after a few days of use and in areas where the network is over utilized that anything useful can be determined.

I imagine VM will now dismiss any complaints about the current box being slow, even more than before, as attempts to get a free upgrade. :rolleyes: I see the mods over there have now categorically stated no firmware changes will be rolled back.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

.... bit lost there, how would overutilisation matter for the tivo? Surely that is only relevant for broadband??

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

oh ok. Just what I have always been told, what with on demand never working, very slow performance, spinning circles all the time, C501 and other errors, 2 minutes for youtube to load etc. Anyway, time to more on, hope it works out for you all.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

If you do the research, I think you will find that is at least 60"


However HDR worth it at any size, but does seem to be limited to 4k sets.


http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/is-now-t...o-buy-a-4k-tv/

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It's subjective, not cast in stone. I tend to agree with you, but many will argue 55" at least is worth it. Hence all the 55" 4K sets. Eventually probably all sets will move to 4K, just because. But right now, as you say, since HDR is linked to quality 4K sets, which generally means 55"+, UHD is not cheap (the point of the original comment).

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes

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Granted it may look terrible, but from a TiVo hater I can say it is terrific, fast QUIET (silent) and you can always keep it out of sight. (as without saying anything I can't give away) the remote doesn't need pointing at the box.

put it this way if anyone had an sa v+ box they'll know how bad it was, then the Samsung v+ came out. massive improvement. this is like that only100x better.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well been a while since the original announcement, virgin have went quiet not even a teaser of the new os

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

A little patience is required l find sometimes...

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Indeed, we will hear soon enough. No point in giving Sky an advantage by revealing such information too much in advance.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Who says there is a new os?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sorry for being thick but what is 'os'?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Operating System....e.g. Windows 10.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Oh right thanks for that. I'm so thick at times!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Not really as none of us are experts on everything l can guarantee you.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well I remembe hearing the osd or UI will be totally refreshed

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It was announced some weeks ago that the new box would have a 'refreshed Tivo UI'.

I think that is what you are referring to.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I'm sure it must be. http://www.digitaltveurope.net/58381...s-new-tivo-ui/

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I think the refreshed TiVo UI is what rolled out to existing boxes recently.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Just switched mine on and found that I couldn't even get into my recordings.

Did a reboot, that fixed it (albeit very slow) and now we have "No network availability C130).

I now think that the problem is so serious that VM need to seriously think about promising all TiVo customers with a new box at no charge.

This is the only way that I can see them salvaging not only their TV business, but possibly their whole business as many will be moving from one triple provider to another.

It's easier and more cost effective, so they may end up losing BB, TV and phone customers because of this.

Cable TV has always been the poor relation, it's only my dislike of Sky that has been the main reason for my loyalty, but there are much more cost effective choices now.

Me too.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I hope not. If you take a look at the way Sky, Netflix and Amazon present their options, it's all picture based and modern. That's what I want to see on the new Tivo.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That's how on demand and catch up look now in the recent update.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Not the nice big pictures I was expecting, though. Looks old fashioned.

I think the UI on the new Tivo needs to be much better than that!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

That is the new UI

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

It will be the same UI, they wouldn't have two different TiVo UIs on the go.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

With a completely new UI for sky, We get a few little changes not excited

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sky are in a different part of their hardware and OS cycle than Virgin Media are.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sky have two different devices with Sky HD and Sky Q so required a full new UI.

TiVo from VM is just different boxes with same UI.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes, after all the hype I was totally underwhelmed by the TiVo UI "revamp". Barely noticed to be honest.

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By the way, does anyone know the number of tuners in the new TiVo?

My neighbour was told 6, by a probably woefully ill-informed (not their fault!) retentions rep. But, if that's true it's less than impressive compared to the Sky Q's 12. Even if you take out the 2 "UI" tuners and the one "for future development" there are still 9 in Sky Q:

- 1 dedicated to Live TV
- 4 dedicated to recording
- 2 dedicated to tablets
- 2 dedicated to multiroom mini boxes

All usable at the same time.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Sky Q uses those tuners for streaming to minis and tablets if VM enable cloud recording as speculated many times on here they clearly don't need all those tuners as multiroom boxes , tablets and smartphones would just stream your show from the cloud or am I missing something.

Sky went down this route because it's TV users have varying broadband connections , those on really slow ADSL lines would struggle with cloud recordings.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

People are guessing about everything; without more details, which are not likely to be released for while, it's pretty pointless IMHO.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

But speculation makes this forum go around so why stop the speculation now PB.:)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Or (also) because it is impossible to get rights holders to agree to cloud based PVRs?

I'd like to be proved wrong but I very much doubt Virgin has the clout to get agreement to that.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Speculation is fine. But some people seem to be moaning about things they haven't yet seen or used yet. Makes no sense to me.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Well, passingbat, I hope what has been said on here about the UI being the same as the existing speculation is indeed speculative.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The new box will have the same UI. That is not speculation.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Remember you are on a forum where moaning is part of the DNA of some of its members.;)

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

As someone who only use the PVR functionality, I see wrong with the current UI. I don't need pretty pictures.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yeah, I'm sure some people were happy with text only UI's on older STBs and older UIs still, going all the way back. Trouble is new buyers expect something slicker, something more like the phone in their pocket and simply can't get their heads around ancient tech.

I had the same discussion 18 months ago, before Sky Q was announced (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...postcount=2467). Now, after Sky Q, Virgin is once again playing catch up.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I think you meant 'nothing wrong'.

However, I just see old fashioned and I am not impressed. This will not help to placate existing customers or attract new ones, I'm afraid.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

You're right; by the time I noticed it, it was too late to edit. I posted in a hurry with no time to check.




It concerns me that people seem to need pretty pictures these days. Given this a temporary step until the Horizon software arrives, why would they spend money re-vamping the interface, given that the functionality is still there? The interface is perfectly adequate, and if people make their provider decision on 'prettiness of the interface' over functionality, then more fool them.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I say this as a 28 year customer of Virgin and it's predecessors and real evangelist for TiVo back in the day, but that is really complacent.

Virgin comes up short not just on looks but hugely on content. On functionality Sky have caught up and now that, even, is a wash. Having just switched to Sky Q (but stuck with Virgin 200mb/s BB) there are a lot of things I prefer. The ability to watch all content, recorded and on demand on any screen, tablet or extra TV, is great. About the only thing I miss so far from TiVo is the ability to configure series links, e.g. to only keep 2 episodes. Hardly a winning differentiator on its own!

So if people are meant to wait for Horizon, which isn't itself going to be truly 'better', I think it's dark days for Virgin TV, at least at the premium end.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

The new box is the VM update equivalent to Sky Q; only a few months behind Sky Q.


Apart from trialists, who are under NDA, no one knows the functionality of the new box. If the functionality of the new box hasn't improved and is not similar to that of Sky Q, then there is reason to complain.


But why are people, who know nothing about it's functionality, judging it before it is released?


And moaning about it's appearance and interface, is rather like 'judging a book by it's cover', which we all know, is not a wise thing to do.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I too find it strange that people are getting very negative over how they imagine the box will perform. Just wait till it's released then criticise or praise it. And if you truly desire the functionality of Sky Q now - then do as others here have done - get Sky Q and enjoy it.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Might be because past history shows cable TV as always lagging behind, content, performance and functionality wise.

Peoples patience with the "it's coming soon, bear with us" line is exhausted. Even when told that it's coming soon, this isn't always the case.

As soon as they get anywhere near to catching up, the other providers leave them behind again!

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

At one stage, I'd say that cable was ahead due to its on-demand offerings. But VM has said end of the year for the new box, I don't think it has said coming soon.
The coming soon line tends to refer to channels which some users have identified as "testing" and will be launching imminently. I could be mistaken but I don't think VM uses the term that much.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Cable's answer to the original Sky+ box, the V+ had an extra tuner. Tivo made that extra tuner recordable, added loads of functionality; Whishlists, permanent series links (which I believe Sky eventually added) auto-resolution of recording clashes and OTT Services etc.


Yes, Sky Q makes them currently ahead. But, depending on the functionality of the new VM Box, that may turn out to have been the case for only a matter of months.


In the past (and maybe in the future) Sky was ahead launch-time wise, but the later launch of the cable product gave better functionality.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

There is no confirmed mini multi room boxes at this moment

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I hope to god the first thing discussed on the opening day of discussion was how fast its going to operate

Tivo has fantastic functionality laid low by appalling implementation

waiting for menu screens let alone Apps to load is a nonsense.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Absolutely. Following yet another reboot, I find the EPG is now being affected. It won't even let me set programmes for tomorrow.

The Discovery Bar has disappeared and it won't let me come out of the EPG, all it does is 'bong'. Pathetic.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Apparently, the office of the CEO have now acknowledged that this is a "widespread problem".

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

What is widespread?? Apps not loading as fast as customers want?

Also what is your source for this apparent issue?

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Who Said! You can't go round spreading false information like that. A lot of forum members look to this forum for help and they rely on the opinions of the more experienced members.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Another who seems to make unsubstantiated widespread claims and a hatred of Virgin it seems at the same time...

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I am the source quoted as I made a post on another forum regarding this, they admitted to me on the telephone they are having widespread speed issues (tivo responsiveness) they even state the same on there own help pages I did not realise it was a secret. For avoidence of doubt it was someone who works in the Ceo office not the Ceo.

They did not say everyone has speed issues but they know a lot of people are. Myself included and they said they are working on a fix with Tivo as far as I know this is all common knowledge! They have said they are doing something about it so I will take them at there word.

I have no hatred for Virgin I am a long term customer of theres

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

There are always a few issues with any service be it Virgin , Sky , BT or any of the others but for some to say it is in meltdown is a utter untrue fabrication although l do hope those who do have problems get them sorted out pretty quickly.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

I never said it was in meltdown denphone? As for Bt I wouldnt be brave enough to return to them.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

l know you did not say that dodgem but some others were making exaggerated statements overplaying the issues as yes there are issues but they are certainly not widespread as they are far from that.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

They said widespread to me but refering to speed/responsiveness of box issues not being confined to one geographical area

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

So you spoke to 1 person and they said something that more than likely was just their thoughts and opinion. Doesn't mean its officially recognised as a full widespread issue.

My TiVo isn't speedy by any means but neither do I find it unresponsive and too slow. Although I am getting Sky Q next week as had enough of the price rises and also wanted a box that was faster.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Yes I spoke to one person who works in the Ceo office who said the speed issue is not confined to one area weather or not that was just their opinion or not I dont know but as a representative of Virgin Media I should imagine they have to be very careful about what they say. In no way have I said or Virgins representative that everyone is having the issue but a some are some are not (luck of the draw I guess) The person also said Tivo were looking at a software fix for the issues since the update so surely that is admitting in some cases there is a problem and it was not just the staff members opinion.

As for you getting Sky Q I am jealous as I do find the price increases getting beyond the joke and My Tivos I speak for myself no one elses machines are to slow since the update.

However my only alternative options are BT/ Talk talk so Im stuck otherwise I would be off to Sky with you.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

Until we know what functionality the new Tivo brings, it is premature to say that Sky Q is better; it may be, but we simply don't know that at this stage.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

My boxes are very slow samsung 1 tb and samsung 500 gig maybe as has been suggested it is down to over utilisation and not the boxes themselves I dont know. However before the update they were no where near as slow as they are now.

My shows hangs for about 20 seconds when loading and unloading. I do not bother with the apps as my tv is much much faster at loading them but the tv is quad core.

I have spoken in depth to the Ceo office who have said it is a wide spread problem that they are aware off and are working on a fix with the Tivo software people.

Sky is not an option for me and I dont think I am brave enough to ever return to B.T.

The cynic in me says Virgin said lets brick our current boxes so people upgrade (at cost) to our new faster v6 turbo charged box v6 in tuners and v6 in power ;)

The above is what I posted on the other website.

Thats true Passing bat I will hopefully be getting a V6 depending on its cost off course as it may be to expensive I dont know. The one thing they did say ((maybe just the staff members opinion and not official) was the V6 is much faster than the current Tivo they were tight lipped about anything else to do with the box saying they dont have the pricing information yet. Weather or not it will be install only cost or extra monthly cost or both they would not disclose.

So if it truly is faster and at a reasonable price I am in.

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 

While not instant 20 seconds really isn't that long to wait.

Remember the hardware in the VM TiVo is now over 5 years old. So its never going to be ultra fast.

I personally don't think that a few seconds access time really counts as a wide spread nationwide issue.