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Just watched it and really enjoyed it.

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The ongoing job of rehabilitating this series and making it actual Star Trek rather than careless reimagining continues.

Tonight’s episode really felt like the real thing, the use of a botanic garden for location filming gave a real sense of connection to the production design of ST:TNG, the Caves of Mak'ala tied it to DS9 and a brief appearance by a ST:Picard era Starfleet uniform brought the continuity together and right up to date.

It looks and feels like Star Trek at last and I’m very happy. I’m really looking forward to them continuing to explore the whole human-Trill thing. I think I got something caught in my eye at the very end of the episode. :D

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I still haven't started this season and i am determined not to. I started DS9 today and i am going to do my best to get through it over the next 4 weeks assuming that the lockdown doesnt get extended.

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So far this season has been a major improvement.

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You’re missing out ...

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Their is a saying that springs to mind.

Cut off your nose to spite your face.

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Aye the show is getting better and better. This episode seemed more like a TNG episode as well.

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Sure is.

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Enjoyed the current episode, anyone else?

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The seed ship ? It was ok.

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It’s ticking along, but............I mean I’m enjoying it, but when you compare it to something like the Mandalorian..............,


It’s too slow, too sentimental.

I like the admiral.

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The actor playing the admiral was in the Mummy.

I'm loving it so far and thankfully the future is allowing them to make the show what it should have been at the start.

Great retrofitted upgrades to the ship.

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The guy who plays the admiral is in a lot of stuff, but he's always a minor character. I'd love to see him be a lead.

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I thought this weeks was far better than last week. Quite enjoyed it.

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I mean, now I’m being lectured on what gender pro-noun to use by star bloody Trek......

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Well, there are not many Trills on Earth, so I would not worry about it.

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That isn't anything new though. TOS and TNG had species with no gender. So you can't pretend it is new to the franchise at all.

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No, but it’s all very Wokey isn’t it.

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Only if you’re very snowflakey...

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Not sure you know what that means, if you’re using it that context.

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Season 4 premieres on Thursday 18th November

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:hyper:

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I got round to watching season 3 last week. I was determined I wasn't going to watch it after season 2 but I ran out of stuff to watch and didn't want to start anything big with the fall tv season starting. It was a million times better than season 1 and 2, partly due to the stories and partly due to changes in Burnham's character and her not being so dull. Tilly does my nut in more than ever but I am not going to moan because I know what I am letting myself in for and I am the one who chooses to watch it.

I am looking forward to season four. It feels like the first time we are going to have a proper Captain in charge with the relevant experience and knowledge. Saru and Tilly were just wet prunes and an embarrassment tbh.

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I think we did try to tell you that S3 was great and a big change from how the show started. Now no longer constrained to sticking to Canon they can do whatever they want.

I do love Ti,ly though, she is great.

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Starts this week. Am looking forward to it.

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Going to have to wait in the UK now

https://deadline.com/2021/11/star-tr...bs-1234875466/

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Well screw that.

I'm certainly not waiting till next year.

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Guess I won’t be watching Discovery anymore then.

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... and they wonder why people use "alternatives" :rolleyes:

I'll be watching it from next week, regardless.

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Well bollocks to that, looks like I'll be firing up CinemaHD app or Kodi, I was actually going to watch it legal for a change too.

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So the debt is payed we’re moving on thanks for the loan. Unbelievable. Don’t worry about the people who have enjoyed the show up until now.

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You can wait till 2022 when we'll launch our own Paramount+ streaming in the UK but we don't know when that will be.

How stupid. They must surely know that everyone wanting to see it will do so by other means.

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Do they really expect us to pay more money to watch via Paramount+? :td:

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Some might but our household won't..

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Is Paramount+ not a sister company of Sky.

If so I don't think VM customer will be getting it.

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No , Paramount+ is owned by ViacomCBS , Sky Cinema subscribers on Sky Q will get the Paramount+ app for free (Cinema pass subscribers on Now won't)

The app will be available elsewhere to subscribe to like Netflix, Amazon Prime and Disney+ are , whether it will be on V6/TV 360 I have no idea.

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Coming to Pluto TV in the UK on Friday
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi...uk-newsupdate/

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Do you have to watch it live?

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https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-...nternationally

I'm hoping it's also on as On Demand through Pluto TV.

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So Can I watch on VM as they have the app. But that is live. So will it be free on demand on VM? I’m confused.

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It certainly reads like that.
I hope so, but I wouldn't put it past them to be difficult.

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Pluto is self contained on the V6 boxes. It won't be in Virgin Media's On Demand section.

Unfortunately it's not on the 360 boxes yet.

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Just Watched Series 3 of Discovery.

To be honest I don't know whether or not to like it, I'm in a state of confusion.

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I was the same. I thought it was a bit of a cop out slinging them into the future so they could literally make up whatever they want, the PC agendas do my head in and the less said about stupid junior officer Tilly being in command the better.

That being said, it felt closer to normal Star Trek than the previous seasons did and it helped that the universe doesnt completely revolve around Burnham.

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Season 3 felt like Mass Effect games (and there were reports of Amazon nearing a deal on a TV series of that yesterday). I've enjoyed all seasons of ST: Discovery so far, though they were all very different from each other.

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I can't see the Scifi TV section in Pluto just now, and I've seen it there before. How are newbies going to get familiar before they need to find it?

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If it's not on-demand who is going to sit at designated times to watch it with advertising? 1970 it isn't

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Exactly

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Pluto TV is a free platform, even the stuff in the On-Demand section has advertising.

The advertising is very short and not particularly often, I've had one of their "channels" on in background this morning.

I don't remember the picture quality being as good as it is. I'm not saying it's stunning or anything, just better than I remembered.

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Navigation on Pluto TV is horrid.:(

You pretend it wasn't bad last time, and then try again and if anything it's worse now.

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Bit off topic, but I was watching Babylon 5 via IMDBtv on Amazon recently. The adverts weren't actually that intrusive as the breaks aren't as long as you'd get on commercial live TV and some other services.

Not watched anything on Pluto yet so not sure how long they are on there.

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I said the advert breaks were short...maybe not. That one just seemed broadcast channel length... :erm:

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Can you watch IMdbTV without logging into an Amazon account?

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Honestly don't know. I've got Prime Video so am signed in.

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It's free to both prime and non Prime subscribers but you still need to log in to an amazon account

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Thought that might be how it worked. Many thanks.

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Same here for Person of interest... Great picture quality too

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Ugh, adverts, not been bothered by them for many years, they were really irritating, glad to be rid of them.

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yeah same as. IMDBtv is terrible for them imo

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When I booted up Pluto TV on a couple of different devices today both had Pluto Sci-fi "channel" at the top of "Featured" area.

I'm going to be watching live tonight at 9pm and then see if On-Demand is possible after.

Hopefully they don't have problems due to much higher usage.

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Pluto’s EPG is a train wreck. The whole app seems designed for people who would rather have the TV playing something than nothing. You can only really see what’s on now and next, and if you stumble upon the right button you can sometimes see a couple of hours ahead.

Putting Discovery on here is the desperate act of a studio that really didn’t think through the implications of releasing its most valuable and hotly anticipated asset in a way that might as well have been designed to encourage illegal downloading.

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… and there it is, finally showing up in the EPG (if you can call it that) of the Pluto sci if channel. I must admit I’m not sure I really believed they’d actually do it.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1637951314

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If they did this straight away then it would of actually made sense since Pluto TV is owned by ViacomCBS. The way they did it though makes it look like they realised how pissed people are, forcing them to use Pluto.

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On the plus side, the Pluto iOS app doesn’t force screen recording to go black or mute, so it looks like it’s possible to “record” the show, after a fashion. If 9pm isn’t convenient going forward I might just do that.

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Not even bothering I’ll turn my attention to other stuff

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Well Pluto TV didn't crash under the strain, the picture was better than SD, but wasn't Full HD, I'm guessing 720p, the colours were a little off.

It was ages until the first ad break, but they seemed regular after that.

There were 2 episodes tonight. I'll look later to see if they are available On-Demand.

The S4 storylines were interesting enough. An ongoing one was intriguing enough. Not perfect, but I'll continue to happily watch.

The most annoying thing was that they showed the end credits after an ad break both times, though they did go right into the next episode without another ad break.

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As far as I can see it's not on On Demand, so it's a bit useless for a lot of people to have to watch it at the designated times.

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Disappointed there are no subtitles for it on Pluto, looks like I will be watching it via the CinemaHD everything is free app in future.

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I did see the words Close Captioned on a menu option when I was looking at Pluto apps yesterday afternoon. I only noticed it on one of my devices though. There are different implementations of Pluto TV App on VM and Roku. Roku had the Closed Captioning. I wasn't on the look out for subtitles during Discovery, and was watching on VM, not Roku, last night.

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Do they at least have it in HD?

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The quality looked HD, I didn't watch much, this was on Firestick.

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My verdict on picture quality earlier.

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We had a power cut about 8.30 last night and it still hasn’t come back on. So I didn’t get to see Discovery in the end, and I won’t get to see it tonight either. All being well we will have power back before the final repeat broadcast at 9pm tomorrow.

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You could always 'borrow' a copy from someone ;)

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Yeah, just make sure you return it afterwards.

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I don't get a TV streaming service in 2021 that operates on the broadcast TV style system. It makes no sense what so ever.

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I guess you're happy after last weeks episode then. ;)

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Absolutely. Tbh I didn't want to say anything because it all sounds too good to be true. I am keeping my fingers, toes and everything I can crossed that she doesn't come back.

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I suspect she'll be back as an occasional guest star. It felt like a budget cut decision, much like many storyline decisions on TV shows. Lots of storyline decisions are budget influenced, directly or indirectly. Most of the rest of the crew aren't on screen this season (so far). Reduced cast storylines, or just main cast, are regularly alternatives to bottle episodes on shows these days.

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I am sure Mary Wiseman was pregnant during filming. They were doing everything they could to hide it.

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I don't care what the reason is as long as she is gone :dunce: It was absolutely absurd that a junior officer who had no command or leadership experience and who had not been to Starfleet Academy was given the responsibility of looking after the ship and crew. What is even more of a joke is that senior officers who had that knowledge and experience relinquished command to her. Regardless of how essential their role was at the time (e.g. engineering), one of them should have said "I am a Commander and as a senior officer I'll take command and Lt Cmdr Fred Bloggs will take over as Chief Engineer temporarily". We all know how it works.

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Has Discovery ever been shown on linear television as I've never seen it mentioned in any TV listings.

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I think E4 eventually aired the first couple of cm seasons. It's currently on Pluto TV.

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Yes. 2019, just a S2 was about to launch on Netflix, to my recollection.
E4 definitely broadcast S1, I don't recall about S2. It got moved to a graveyard slot toward the end of S1, so if they showed a later season it was at a daft time of the night.

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According to various sites, it takes a mid season break after Episode 7 (this week), back on 10th Feb 2022.

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I'm struggling to get back into this after watching several other series in the last month or so!

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Yeah, it feels very much like the Arrow verse where the weekly lgbtq/mental health/gay drama of the week is wrapped up in a Star Trek uniform. There isnt a meaningful quality story you can sink your teeth in to. If i remember tomorrow i'll see if i can look up the ratings because it might explain why the next season is only 10 eps and then gets cancelled.

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Most shows that were on the former CBS All-Access that I've watched have been 10 episodes for each of the seasons, that drop to 10 might just be them realigning the episode order with their other shows, a rebrand to Paramount+ isn't necessarily going to change their production order thinking. 10 is a fairly normal number on various streaming services too.

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Yeh, nothing takes you out of your reality factor in a program set over a thousand years in the future with FTL drives, matter transmission/replication, androids, cyborgs, various alien races, hive mind collectives, and god-like aliens, than gay people being part of the storyline…

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Exactly, although you did miss a couple of words.

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In Discovery, I never saw any "forced" gay storylines - the relationships (to me) were just part of the story, like Burnham’s & Cleveland’s.

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Clearly you missed all the hype they specifically made about it, even this season.

Not forgetting of course the fuss made by the usual loud minority when they killed one of them off - naturally they had to appease them by reviving him from the dead.

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Clearly I did…

Reviving from the dead - like Spock in Star Trek III, or Picard in Star Trek:Picard?

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Not really the point, but ...
In the case of Spock - yes, there was (I believe) some fan unrest, although his return was [apparently] mainly down to Nimoy himself wanting to return.
Picard, well I guess he was technically revived, but since it was all within one episode, there was clearly no fan unrest (I believe a few were unhappy he became a droid).

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Me included, but now that I’ve just watched the trailer for S2, with Q altered reality and timelines, it’s very possible he won’t stay that way.

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I don't want them to undo that. That is actually a very interesting story to see how he deals with becoming an android. We've known this character for 40 years roughly, so it is interesting to see how he deals with this when he was an old man expecting to die.

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Hes still pretty much an old man, expecting to die (just not quite as soon).

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He's what?!

SPOILERS. :(

I have no problem with that as a concept, but I didn't expect to read ST:P storylines on this thread.

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Have you not seen the end of the previous season?

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I've not seen any ST: Picard.

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The show dropped 2 years ago. Plot line discussion is hardly spoiling at this point.

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Season 1 came out two years ago (today), if you were that interested you should have seen it long ago. :sleep: