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Sirius 29-09-2015 19:46

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35800911)
whats up with the tiers? 70 as a low end Openreach killer. 150 and 200 too closely set as superfast speeds.

Why assume that i know that information. I don't gauge my broadband speed as an extension of my manhood :) ?

Paul 29-09-2015 19:46

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
How about less of the petty arguments about "free".

I'm still waiting to see a post confirming the new upload speeds, so how about posting some useful information instead of being bloody pedantic.

Sirius 29-09-2015 19:52

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35800915)
How about less of the petty arguments about "free".

I'm still waiting to see a post confirming the new upload speeds, so how about posting some useful information instead of being bloody pedantic.

you of all people should know we cannot post information that we have not been told is public knowledge. Until i know i can post that information my lips are sealed. As i have been at the hospital with my wife today i am not up to speed on what has since been posted at work !

RainmakerRaw 29-09-2015 19:53

Re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35800912)
My apologies, but it just ****es me off that one person can come on this forum, post some bull that A or B is going to happen then everyone takes it as gospel. when it does not happen all we see if complaining as to why VM never did something that everyone now takes as gospel even when they never even said they would. There are and this is not aimed at you who think they know every thing that goes on at VM and yet never have or will work there.

Apology accepted. :)

EDIT: Just seen your other post above. Nothing serious I trust, give our best to your wife. Hospital veteran here who knows how rough it can be!

jcm193 29-09-2015 19:53

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35800915)
How about less of the petty arguments about "free".

I'm still waiting to see a post confirming the new upload speeds, so how about posting some useful information instead of being bloody pedantic.

Not meaning to be rude but if virgin are advertising this upgrade as free in various places i don`t think its petty for paying customers to want clarification especially as staff are suggesting that it may not be free after all, just to add I was on the phone to customer services this afternoon and we got talking about this upgrade iam 99% sure they said it was a free upgrade when available.

muppetman11 29-09-2015 19:54

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35800915)
How about less of the petty arguments about "free".

I'm still waiting to see a post confirming the new upload speeds, so how about posting some useful information instead of being bloody pedantic.

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...o-200mbps.html
Seems to suggest

70 mbps down 5 mbps up
150 mbps down 10 mbps up
200 mbps down 12 mbps up

thenry 29-09-2015 19:54

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35800914)
Why assume that i know that information. I don't gauge my broadband speed as an extension of my manhood :) ?

:cool:

Sirius 29-09-2015 19:56

Re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw (Post 35800917)
Apology accepted. :)

EDIT: Just seen your other post above. Nothing serious I trust, give our best to your wife. Hospital veteran here who knows how rough it can be!

Reason i have been away from the forum, she suffered a triple DVT in her left leg in June and has only now been given a small all clear, but is waiting on a arterial bypass.

RainmakerRaw 29-09-2015 19:58

Re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35800921)
Reason i have been away from the forum, she suffered a triple DVT in her left leg in June and has only now been given a small all clear, but is waiting on a arterial bypass.

Sorry to hear. Some things are more important than broadband speeds.... Not many, granted ;) but some. Health and family are two such things. All the best.

Paul 29-09-2015 20:00

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35800916)
you of all people should know we cannot post information that we have not been told is public knowledge. Until i know i can post that information my lips are sealed.

Yes I do, however, until now, no one has said its not public knowledge either.

From the link above (Unofficial I guess) ;

Quote:

Old Speed: 50Mbps [3Mbps Upload]
New Speed: 70Mbps [5Mbps Upload]

Old Speed: 100Mbps [6Mbps Upload]
New Speed: 150Mbps [10Mbps Upload]

Old Speed: 152Mbps [12Mbps Upload]
New Speed: 200Mbps [12Mbps Upload]

If this is really the case, I'll be downgrading, since my 152 only runs at 100 atm anyway (due to my network, not VM) and I'm not getting an upload boost.

Sirius 29-09-2015 20:03

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35800923)
Yes I do, however, until now, no one has said its not public knowledge either.

From the link above (Unofficial I guess) ;




If this is really the case, I'll be downgrading, since my 152 only runs at 100 atm anyway (due to my network, not VM) and I'm not getting an upload boost.


Same here i don't use the full potential of what i have now so a downgrade and then free or what ever it is upgrade as part of the tier changes will save me money.

thenry 29-09-2015 20:03

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
IF that is final then the middle tier and only the middle tier looks enticing unless you're a casual user.

jcm193 29-09-2015 20:04

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35800925)
IF that is final then the middle tier and only the middle tier looks enticing unless you're a casual user.

what is the saving if you downgrade from 152mb to 100mb

alanbjames 29-09-2015 20:05

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Why is it called Vivid 200?

thenry 29-09-2015 20:09

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcm193 (Post 35800926)
what is the saving if you downgrade from 152mb to 100mb

difference between the lowest tier and middle tier is £5 and from middle to highest £7.50

---------- Post added at 20:09 ---------- Previous post was at 20:08 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35800927)
Why is it called Vivid 200?

Liberty Global.

A Dave 29-09-2015 20:20

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35800891)
Where in this press release is the word 'free'?

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...r-uk-broadband

Where is it on this page?

http://store.virginmedia.com/special...d-upgrade.html

IMHO this implies the increases will be free:

Attachment 26340

thenry 29-09-2015 20:23

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
the yearly increases happen do they not with or without upgrades?

Foo Fighter 29-09-2015 20:24

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I think theres a feeling that the difference between 150 and 200 doesnt really justify a different tier anymore.

150mb is very enticing now, seems a bit of an oversight.

apb27 29-09-2015 20:29

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Downgrading to 100mb seems like it was the right move after all, pretty tame upgrade but then again its only an extra £20 a year

mike86 29-09-2015 20:30

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35800927)
Why is it called Vivid 200?

Because it makes YouTube look better

kalleh 29-09-2015 20:35

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35800907)
Just like some are to easy to post bull excreta claiming that there was going to be a 100,200,300 upgrade. Boy did i gave a good old titter when i saw the winging this morning :D

---------- Post added at 19:33 ---------- Previous post was at 19:32 ----------

There goes another assumption that i would even know how much, some of us do not work in customer facing or sales jobs ;)

Wasn't a dig at all VM staff in general and i understand what you mean it was all speculation until VM officially released something but there has always been that low percent of VM staff who if you look at their posts over numerous forums you'd think they were being paid to defend VM. I have no issues with VM or its staff its just my opinion :-)

Skie 29-09-2015 22:36

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Vivid does seem like a strange name to give a set of tiers. Unless they are also going to turn it into something more than just fast broadband?

morrk 29-09-2015 22:59

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
If these upgrades are to be believed, I will be saving myself a couple of quid and downgrading to 150Mb. Will stay on the top tier if 300 comes off with a bump to UL as that would be a sufficient e-penis booster to justify the extra expense.

peanut 30-09-2015 07:46

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morrk (Post 35800987)
If these upgrades are to be believed, I will be saving myself a couple of quid and downgrading to 150Mb. Will stay on the top tier if 300 comes off with a bump to UL as that would be a sufficient e-penis booster to justify the extra expense.

I have to agree with this. I think I'll be doing the same. 150 is more than enough, and to pay for extra is just a bit pointless at these speeds.

Ignitionnet 30-09-2015 08:36

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35800888)
The top tier gets screwed every time. The last 2 times it has been in regard to the % increase on the downstream compared to the lower tiers and this time it is now increase in upstream. It baffles me how somebody can sit there and justify this kind of behaviour/logic.

Easy. People who measure their manhood by their broadband's bandwidth will keep paying more for the top tier, and in many cases use it heavily. Delivering 200Mb costs no more to VM than 150Mb, but usage varies a lot between tiers and that's the rub and where the costs are. People who hammer download and/or upload are expensive, and many of them are on the top tier.

Upgrades are done largely for PR reasons in the UK as Openreach are nowhere to be found as yet. There's little business case in upgrading more than they have to.

EDIT: I note a fair few people who do not care about the e-peen have decided 150 is a better choice for their usage. To me the best way if upset by the upgrade would be to either leave VM entirely, although showing upset about being uplifted from 152Mb to 200Mb by going to 76Mb or less would be a little strange, or as is perhaps more practical for most downgrade.

Gavin-D 30-09-2015 09:59

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Any word on what the cost of the 70, 150 and 200 will be?

SnoopZ 30-09-2015 10:18

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35801031)
Any word on what the cost of the 70, 150 and 200 will be?

Cost? The same cost as it is now.

Roph 30-09-2015 13:47

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Yeah, these are "free" upgrades.

That letter you got about your price increase? just a coincidence!

Toto 30-09-2015 14:17

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35801009)
Easy. People who measure their manhood by their broadband's bandwidth........

Sorry.......can't resist.

If my manhood was measured against the top BB speed.......there's nothing fast enough in the UK !

I'll be here all week.

techguyone 30-09-2015 14:29

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roph (Post 35801082)
Yeah, these are "free" upgrades.

That letter you got about your price increase? just a coincidence!

Don't be a nub, the price rise would have happened anyway... this time there's an increase in speed too - win win I say.

Superblade7 30-09-2015 17:44

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Hi guys,

Not been on for a while so hope everyone is well. Just popped by and saw this thread about the speed upgrades. Pretty cool that they are doing 'free' upgrades again and whilst it'll not make much difference to me, an extra 20Mb of bandwidth is a nice little bonus!

Can't help but think VM missed a trick with this one though as obviously their lowest tier is now going to be 70Mb. With all this willy waving going on about them being fastest, I'm surprised that they didn't make the bottom tier either 76Mb or 80Mb so they could advertise that all their speeds are equivalent or higher than BT's (and other ISP's) current top speeds.

I do agree with everyone on here though that with more and more things becoming cloud based, they need to consider a round of upload speed upgrades as its now getting to the point where the vast majority of customers won't care about download speeds getting any faster than they currently are.

ileikcaek 01-10-2015 04:41

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Virgin media's site currently shows SuperFibre 50, Vivid 100 and Vivid 200, no sign of 70Mb or Vivid 150Mb.

http://i.imgur.com/UzgtOJX.png

MyVM has been updated and says I should expect my 200Mb upgrade by the end of November 2015.

RainmakerRaw 01-10-2015 04:55

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ileikcaek (Post 35801209)
Virgin media's site currently shows SuperFibre 50, Vivid 100 and Vivid 200, no sign of 70Mb or Vivid 150Mb.

http://i.imgur.com/UzgtOJX.png

MyVM has been updated and says I should expect my 200Mb upgrade by the end of November 2015.

I believe 70 and 150 are for existing customers only (i.e. those getting a free upgrade). New customers get the 50/100/200 tiers.

Just logged into My Virgin Media and apparently we'll get the upgrade by the end of February 2016. Looks like Liverpool is one of those 'rare' areas they can't upgrade this year.

ileikcaek 01-10-2015 05:10

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RainmakerRaw (Post 35801210)
I believe 70 and 150 are for existing customers only (i.e. those getting a free upgrade). New customers get the 50/100/200 tiers.

That sounds like a peculiar way to do it, non-standard packages for old customers and other packages for new customers (with exception of 200Mb).

Stop It 01-10-2015 05:27

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Mine says November 2015 also. I wonder what changes to the local area they're going to make as especially during the summer my connection went south white dramatically during peak times.

Kabaal 01-10-2015 06:11

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
We're usually among one of the first areas to get upgraded but not this year, mine say by the end of February.

blackthorn 01-10-2015 07:06

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Got up this morning and mine was ready. Clicked the "start the magic" button and away it went.

ianch99 01-10-2015 07:23

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Was able to order upgrade now for sotn CMTS connection:

Quote:

Thanks for your order. Job done – now it’s over to us

Summary

VIVID 200 Optical Fibre

We'll email you in the next 48 hours to let you know the exact cost of your order (even if it's free or there’s no change to your monthly bill). Don't worry, if there is a change to your bill, you'll get the very best price we can give you based on the mix of services in your package. And remember, if you change your mind about upgrading, you can cancel your new services within 7 days.

Stephen 01-10-2015 07:27

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
End of November here in Rutherglen G73.

MagicUK 01-10-2015 07:56

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
End of November for b47 postcode.

Martin_D 01-10-2015 08:15

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/29.png

Attachment 26345

Hans Gruber 01-10-2015 08:43

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Well I just logged in and it let me place an order to upgrade (100mbit to 150mbit), for some reason I need an engineer visit (free) booked for next Friday to upgrade my SH1. Not sure how that will affect the hardware trial but we'll see. I'm a little surprised as I usually seem to be in one of the last areas upgraded.

Kushan 01-10-2015 08:49

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Between January and March for me, apparently.

Martin_D 01-10-2015 08:53

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35801235)
Between January and March for me, apparently.

Just phone and you will get it for me my.virgin media it says Look out for it between January 2016 and March 2016.

Dave42 01-10-2015 08:54

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
by end of November here

Hans Gruber 01-10-2015 08:56

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
A Superhub 1 should be fast enough for 150mbit, right? Maybe I'll give them a call later and see if I can get the upgrade without router replacement. Seems a bit of a waste if they'll be giving me the SH3 soon after.

Rabb 01-10-2015 08:57

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Look out for it between January 2016 and March 2016.

up to 4-6 months away, if no problems
hoping to do same done on 152 upgrade, if they can offer new customers this new 200mb , say your street, postcode ect
call and ask, no reason why they cant put u on it.

Kushan 01-10-2015 09:01

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35801236)
Just phone and you will get it for me my.virgin media it says Look out for it between January 2016 and March 2016.

I might do, I'm out of contract anyway so need to phone to squeeze some pennies out of them.

TAZMANUK 01-10-2015 09:02

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Mines dated Feb 2016 :/

Kymmy 01-10-2015 09:07

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
No date on my.VM here ???

blackthorn 01-10-2015 09:13

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Haha I might have been a bit premature earlier on. No matter how many speed tests I do, they all are in the range of 168, which is a strange number.
How do you find out on the superhub what the maximum downstream is, I`ve forgotten where its located?

Rabb 01-10-2015 09:17

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
saw martin dee had upgrade, we use uddi area.
just called them, 200mb is available, wife on v staff, was told would need to PAY £18 extra a month for it, till free upgrade. what a rip off.
any neighbor can order it today & get the 200mb, soon as installed, what a load of greedy **** :(

Hans Gruber 01-10-2015 09:23

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I phoned and was told I'd need the Superhub 2 for 150mbit. Oh well, it's only a week wait.

Martin_D 01-10-2015 09:29

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabb (Post 35801248)
saw martin dee had upgrade, we use uddi area.
just called them, 200mb is available, wife on v staff, was told would need to PAY £18 extra a month for it, till free upgrade. what a rip off.
any neighbor can order it today & get the 200mb, soon as installed, what a load of greedy **** :(

Just phone thinking of leaving us . That's what I did

Foo Fighter 01-10-2015 09:35

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I can update to 200mb but want to downgrade to 150mb and pocket the cash. I wont notice the difference to justify it.

Daveoc64 01-10-2015 09:37

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I can do the upgrade now, but as we have a Superhub 1 we need an "engineer" to come out and swap the Superhub.

That's really inconvenient, and I'm part of the new Hardware trial so I'm hoping that this problem will just go away...

BenMcr 01-10-2015 09:55

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber (Post 35801233)
Well I just logged in and it let me place an order to upgrade (100mbit to 150mbit), for some reason I need an engineer visit (free) booked for next Friday to upgrade my SH1. Not sure how that will affect the hardware trial but we'll see. I'm a little surprised as I usually seem to be in one of the last areas upgraded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber (Post 35801238)
A Superhub 1 should be fast enough for 150mbit, right? Maybe I'll give them a call later and see if I can get the upgrade without router replacement. Seems a bit of a waste if they'll be giving me the SH3 soon after.

If you've been advised you need new kit, then you need new kit.

Roph 01-10-2015 10:01

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Whelp, says mine's available right now, clicked through the hoops.

Disappointed about the lack of upload increase. BT really need to start advertising their 20mbps upload more.

Hans Gruber 01-10-2015 10:06

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35801255)
If you've been advised you need new kit, then you need new kit.

Fair enough :)

SnoopZ 01-10-2015 10:12

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
All i can say is bollocks..........
Quote:

Look out for it between April 2016 and September 2016.
Still no OPT IN button though.

adduxi 01-10-2015 10:29

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roph (Post 35801257)
<snip>
Disappointed about the lack of upload increase. BT really need to start advertising their 20mbps upload more.

Be aware, BT upload is not always 20. VDSL is very dependant on distance from the nearest fibre cab. I don't get much more than 14/15, so not much better than 12 from Virgin ......

Grass is not always greener ;)

Roph 01-10-2015 10:32

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
True, I can see the local BT Infinity cabinet from my front door though. I'd be getting the 20 up if I switched.

BenMcr 01-10-2015 11:03

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
www.virginmedia.com/speedupgrade

synner 01-10-2015 11:07

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Ouch... Your upgrade will be ready between July 2016 and December 2016.. WTH?

mike86 01-10-2015 11:08

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I live in an area that's had high utilisation for a year now (typically 1.5 to 12Mbps from my 152Mbps connection at peak times). Somehow the speed upgrade is available now. Congestion issues are about to get a whole lot worse for me...

kalleh 01-10-2015 11:08

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/28.png

Uddingston CMTS 19

heero_yuy 01-10-2015 11:09

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Says they're working on it in my area and will be in touch at the end of November.

Having noticed that the evening hump has gone on the BB monitor suggests they've addressed congestion issues.

Gavin78 01-10-2015 11:18

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Look out for it between January 2016 and March 2016...might consider the downgrade to 150 if it saves £7.50 a month a 50mb upgrade doesn't seem worth it

John L 01-10-2015 11:28

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35801259)
All i can say is bollocks..........

Still no OPT IN button though.

And a great big bolleaux from me too - April 2016 onward.

Still on 120Mb here, but haven't bothered to chase up the previous upgrade yet, as evening and weekend congestion was so bad until recently that the upgrade to 152Mb would have made little difference.

mike86 01-10-2015 11:31

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
How long does it take for the process to complete? I've signed up in MyVM.

dannybear 01-10-2015 11:35

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Look out for it between January 2016 and March 2016. :( London area SE17 ( Area 21 ). Tho to be honest its just a PR stunt really. I would like if they pushed up the upload speeds or removed the upload traffic management. When I do streaming, Twitch/voice chat etc. Always seems to hit the traffic management.

SnoopZ 01-10-2015 11:37

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I find it hard to believe they say 90% on people will be able to get the new speeds by the end of 2015 judging by all the posts here from different parts of the country!

ruddock08 01-10-2015 11:42

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/26.png
free photo hosting

Brilliant.. So can't even stream 2 3mbps Plex streams concurrently without hitting STM on a 10mbps upload connection.. Thanks VM.

Kabaal 01-10-2015 11:48

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruddock08 (Post 35801297)

Brilliant.. So can't even stream 2 3mbps Plex streams concurrently without hitting STM on a 10mbps upload connection.. Thanks VM.

Wasn't the old 100mb upload speed only 6mb? Going by that pic you are being bumped to 150/10 so i don't understand what's wrong with that, unless i'm missing something you'll have slightly faster upload speed during traffic management than you did before the upgrade.

alanbjames 01-10-2015 11:48

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Here in Swansea SA1....

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/25.png

johnholmes 01-10-2015 12:00

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
If I upgrade to Vivid 150 using My Virgin Media, does it trigger a contract extension?

Many thanks.

alanbjames 01-10-2015 12:09

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Theres nothing that mentions a contract extension.

dannybear 01-10-2015 12:09

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnholmes (Post 35801300)
If I upgrade to Vivid 150 using My Virgin Media, does it trigger a contract extension?

Many thanks.

I would say, yes. As you are making a "change" to your contract and will be updated to a new one. I would however check that with CS to make sure.

BenMcr 01-10-2015 12:09

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
The speed upgrade opt in doesn't. If you're changing broadband package rather than just the opt in, it could do.

SnoopZ 01-10-2015 12:14

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35801299)

So it was correct then the upload hasn't increased on the top tier.

Phil-ntl 01-10-2015 12:16

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Well mine says November. Just checked out of curiosity and........

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/24.png

Working on that then, I'm guessing the checker isn't too accurate

Phil

Gavin-D 01-10-2015 12:52

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Between December 2015 and February 2016 here in Darlington (ex NTL)

Ignitionnet 01-10-2015 13:19

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
You have to wonder why they bother with schedules when they just hand the uplifts out to anyone who calls in :)

Be way more sensible if they ask for your postcode before they tell you what speeds you can buy as a new customer, and not release uplifted tiers to new or existing customers in areas with issues.

peanut 01-10-2015 13:19

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
End of November for Ipswich or cough up £56 to get it now. (Refundable when you leave VM).

Gobble 01-10-2015 13:22

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35801316)
You have to wonder why they bother with schedules when they just hand the uplifts out to anyone who calls in :)

Be way more sensible if they ask for your postcode before they tell you what speeds you can buy as a new customer, and not release uplifted tiers to new or existing customers in areas with issues.

I asked on the chat and was told they couldn't apply it as the system wouldn't let them

BenMcr 01-10-2015 13:22

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35801317)
End of November for Ipswich or cough up £56 to get it now. (Refundable when you leave VM).

There is no scheme that Virgin Media run where an upgrade fee is refunded. The only time you get a credit at disconnection is if you've paid against for last bill for longer than the billing period to your disconnection covered.

peanut 01-10-2015 13:24

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35801319)
There is no scheme that Virgin Media run where an upgrade fee is refunded. The only time you get a credit at disconnection is if you've paid against for last bill for longer than the billing period to your disconnection covered.

I was told it would be credited to my final bill that is when I leave VM.

BenMcr 01-10-2015 13:25

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As I said, no such standard process or scheme exists to do that. Even if its done as a one off, then manual credits because you're leaving are extremely rare. Exception credits are part of the process to agree that you'll stay.

peanut 01-10-2015 13:26

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35801321)
As I said, no such process or scheme exists to do that.

Now why doesn't that surprise me.

adduxi 01-10-2015 13:31

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Roph (Post 35801268)
True, I can see the local BT Infinity cabinet from my front door though. I'd be getting the 20 up if I switched.

LOL, I thought the same. as I can see my CAB from my door as well.

However .............. the actual cable to my phone goes up the street and around the corner to the next "phone" cab, and then back to my house.
Sounds bonkers, but that's the way the houses were cabled when they were built. So that's why I don't get the full 80/20 ..... :rolleyes:

jalzoo 01-10-2015 13:39

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Got the upgrade this morning in Northampton after talking to retentions even though mine is not due till November.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/10/23.png

Happy days

Chrysalis 01-10-2015 13:44

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I spoke to my neighbour who is still on VM, evening speeds are quite bad at the moment, here is the result for my postcode :)

Hold on tight
Your speed boost is on the way…
We’ve already started boosting speeds in your area.

We’ll be in touch between December 2015 and February 2016 to tell you when your speed upgrade is ready.

Seems they rushing it in, in high utilisation areas? But taking care in good areas.

qasdfdsaq 01-10-2015 13:47

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35800804)
if they were testing it then it means they were considering it :)

They were also testing 1.5Gbps several years ago.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35800911)
whats up with the tiers? 70 as a low end openreach killer. 150 and 200 too closely set as superfast speeds.

70(75)-150-300.

Chrysalis 01-10-2015 13:47

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35801330)
They were also testing 1.5Gbps several years ago.

on existing customer services rather than a proof of concept?

qasdfdsaq 01-10-2015 13:48

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35800927)
Why is it called Vivid 200?

Because it's their "next generation optical fibre" which is exactly the same as the current generation optical fibre which doesn't actually provide optical fibre anywhere near your property.

BenMcr 01-10-2015 13:49

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35800911)
whats up with the tiers? 70 as a low end Openreach killer. 150 and 200 too closely set as superfast speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35801330)
70(75)-150-300.

Just to point out that 70 and 150 are only for existing broadband customers. If you're a new customer then its currently 50, 100 and 200.

qasdfdsaq 01-10-2015 13:51

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter (Post 35800939)
I think theres a feeling that the difference between 150 and 200 doesnt really justify a different tier anymore.

150mb is very enticing now, seems a bit of an oversight.

People said the same when it was 50-100-120, before they realised 120 was just an interim measure while the network was being prepped for 150.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35801009)
Upgrades are done largely for PR reasons in the UK as Openreach are nowhere to be found as yet. There's little business case in upgrading more than they have to.

I thought Openreach's PR were banging on about G.Fast 500Mbps+ that may take up to 10 years to deploy >_>

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35801100)
Don't be a nub, the price rise would have happened anyway... this time there's an increase in speed too - win win I say.

Uhuh. Love how people justify price rises by "it would have happened anyway". Inflation is currently zero.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35801255)
If you've been advised you need new kit, then you need new kit.

Bearing in mind VM's definition of "you need new kit" and most people's understanding of "you need new kit" rarely mean the same thing.

BenMcr 01-10-2015 13:51

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35801335)
Uhuh. Love how people justify price rises by "it would have happened anyway". Inflation is currently zero.

Price rises aren't just because of inflation.

qasdfdsaq 01-10-2015 13:52

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by adduxi (Post 35801266)
Be aware, BT upload is not always 20. VDSL is very dependant on distance from the nearest fibre cab. I don't get much more than 14/15, so not much better than 12 from Virgin ......

Grass is not always greener ;)

On the other hand, BT don't artificially limit your upload below 20Mbps, and furthermore, you can bond multiple lines and get multiple times that speed.

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35801295)
I find it hard to believe they say 90% on people will be able to get the new speeds by the end of 2015 judging by all the posts here from different parts of the country!

When have you ever believed VM's upgrade schedules plans?

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35801316)
You have to wonder why they bother with schedules when they just hand the uplifts out to anyone who calls in :)

Because you know full well most people don't call in.

Hom3r 01-10-2015 14:12

Re: Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
I'm on a SH1 and I've hit 160Mb+ on my 152Mb connection.

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Primary Downstream Service Flow SFID 1853 Max Traffic Rate 168960000 bps Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
So will the SH1 work with 200Mb or will I need a new SH, if so will I have to contact them, or will they contact me?


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