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They will.

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Pay every year or your PC stops working. Brilliant.:D

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If that is the case I will be definitely be going over to Linux once 10 becomes unserviceable.

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It's more like, pay every year for the additional features and updates you get every year. I suppose it's not a full subscription service but they have said it'll be somewhat subscription based/SaaS.

Far as I'm aware, you lose updates if you unsubscribe, Windows keeps working, same as what happens if you upgrade an unlicensed copy.

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windows is not going subscription don't worry Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley always said it not going to happen

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no it not

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Not saying they aren't going sub based but saying it's a good idea is absurd. From Microsoft's point of view it's money making genius, from the consumer point of view it's an an absolute disaster.

Windows 7 kind of reminds me of XP in a way people want to remain on it as long as vaiably possible. If you're into PC gaming that goes straight out of the window, of course you'd need Windows 10 for DX12.

Might be just me but everything about Microsoft has been rife for the past few years. The one size fits all strategy for Windows 8 was hideous. The Xbox one is the most idea lacking overpriced piece of equipment I've seen, their original ideas for it were marketing disasters.

I'm starting to actually believe SteamOS is the only saviour for us that have spent big on equipment because I can't see myself moving to Windows 10 if subs and a one size fits all model persist.


I'm looking for reasons not to have to change to a completely different OS so I'd appreciate those reasons to get Windows 10 if anyone has any.

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it not happening Microsoft stated aim is to have 1 billion windows 10 users in 2 to 3 years a subscription model not going to happen at all believe Paul Thurott and Mary Jo Foley on this

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no body can categorically say if it will be or will not be yet Kevin Turner made it clear that we will know over the spring and the summer. A lot of pundits are pointing in that direction also.

For Microsoft it certainly would be a good money making plan just look at Xbox live PSN . Anything over a few quid a month though would mean I spent more on an operating system in 1 years than I have in 2 and within 2 or 3 years more than I have ever spent before. Microsoft will make money out of it somehow

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seriously why would I trust those 2 ? Kevin Turner chief operating officer at Microsoft has made statements that could ( and I say could because he didnt actually say it) point to a potential subscription format in the future

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...or-windows-10/

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Perpetual licensing may not be sustainable in the long run so don't rule out a subscription model. Be wary as Windows 10 probably isn't cheap/free for no reason.

Global PC sales have been on a slippery slope for the past 3-4 years thus OEM licensing revenue follows suit. This eats into the consumer share of Microsoft's revenue stream which is roughly about 25% of their business.

My feeling is that they will move to a subscription type model with some sort of value added Azure cloud services bundled into the deal.

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there is no way ever for Microsoft to meet there stated goal if it goes to subscription model no chance at all will 1 Billion do that so they defeats there goal it not going to happen IMHO

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remember windows 10 for screens lower than 7 inches are free. And it is not windows 10 per se but what Windows 10 upgrades to after the free year that people will be paying for.

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9 inches - that makes all the difference to some :) MY windows tablet runs 8.1 is an 8inch one and it's pretty good considering it only has 1gb ram. I am looking forward to it being updated to ten.

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even better :)

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Indeed. Remember also the goal is to have smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, internet-of-things devices, and media sticks all running Windows 10. As you say, if it's free for all desktops for a year, free perpetually for smaller devices, and included on all other new device purchases, it's hard to imagine them not having that many users. And then there's the fact they're pushing micro IoT devices running Windows 10 for your light bulb and fridge.

... Unless the OS ultimately turns out to suck harder than Vista, which is still a possibility.

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Anyone can get Windows 10 free. Even you have Windows xp.
All you have to do is become a tester. Install Windows 10 by scratch fresh install on new partition or new hard drive or delete the old Windows.
Its free for anyone who becomes a tester, regardless of OS. They've made that pretty clear on many occasions...

The Win7/8 restriction is only if you don't care about being a tester.
from Techradar website

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This is 100% NOT correct, anyone on the insider program will need a valid Windows 7,8.1 key to get their FREE Windows 10 upgrade in the first year, unless this has changed in the last 24hrs.

http://www.neowin.net/news/psa-windo...ifying-license

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Gabriel Aul @GabeAul
· May 11
@ImXeeon It will be a free upgrade from a valid Win7 or 8.x license, within the first year of release.

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Is it possible to stop the notification 'Record a Game clip' from popping up delay without recording one?

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have you told it you have done it in quests? (Insider Hub)

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Will check it out when i get home from work at 22:30. Thanks. :)

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This is 100% NOT correct, anyone with windows 7, 8 or 8.1 will get a FREE upgrade to Windows 10 in the first year irrespective of whether they have a valid key or not.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0ME06A20150318

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/windows-...dered-pirated/

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Anyone with 7/8/8.1 will be able to upgrade whilst retaining their existing licenced or not state, but I think the implication was that the Insiders would be able to get a free upgrade to a genuine and licenced version of Windows 10, even if they didn't have a qualifying product i.e. a licenced version of 7 or 8/8.1

On a side note it'll be interesting to see what happens once a non-genuine or mis-licensed user has upgraded to Windows 10 - will it then be easier for Microsoft to shut the OS down.

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I thought MS clarified that pirated copies wouldnt be able to upgrade a while back? I am am work so not able to go digging for that.

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Windows 10 SKU strategy announced.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-1...s-sku-strategy

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Introducing Windows 10 Editions

Windows 10 Home
Windows 10 Mobile
Windows 10 Pro

As we announced earlier this year, for the first time ever, we are offering the full versions of Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Mobile and Windows 10 Pro as a free and easy upgrade for qualifying Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year after launch.** Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device.

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwin...medium=twitter

there is more listed not free though the ones 1 listed are the free ones

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I don't think it'll be any easier or harder than it is now. I'm not sure if it's still the case but IIRC unlicensed copies of Win8 shuts itself down every few hours, MS could just as easily do that with 10. Either case I'm sure there'll be cracks and workarounds just the same, but I'm assuming MS are looking to both reduce the vulnerable user base and/or increase opportunities for upsell.

I doubt their reasons for offering unlicensed upgrades is to let them easily disable the OS later...

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They clarified that pirated copies would be able to upgrade. They just wouldn't magically become genuine in the process.

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MS really don't do themselves any favours, on 1 hand they have confirmed that you need a legal key to upgrade from windows 7,8.1 and on the other hand they say you can upgrade from a pirated version of windows but that doesn't make it a genuine copy.

So if there is no real user limitation using an upgraded pirated version of windows then what is the point of having a legal key in the first place! I am seeing stories about it being unsupported but no one seems to know what that really means.

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It's as intended to be a benefit to Microsoft as to the end user. Same reason they officially allow critical updates for non-legitimate copies of Windows 7 and 8 - the less broken Windows systems on the internet, the better.

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on a different note, has anyone changed the account details they use to log in to their Win 10 machine?

I used my work email address when I installed Win10, but want to change to my personal one. Looking at some guides I've seen for Win 8, I'd need to change the account to a local one, and then to a new accoutn using my personal email address.

However I don't want to lose all my settings, emails, config etc.

I'll do a backup before trying it but wondered if anyone here had tried it and if it worked ok or not :)

Cheers

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proof it not going subscription


Gabriel Aul ‎@GabeAul

@briguy943 "Windows as a service" just means that we'll continuously keep it up to date. There is no ongoing fee.

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Will Windows 10 free upgrade be available as ISO download so I burn a DVD?

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no one knows that yet hope they will be a ISO

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You can already create install media for Windows 8.1 so I can't see it'll be any different http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...-refresh-media

Even if you have to 'purchase' for £0.00 Windows 10 via the Microsoft Store first.

Although unless they continually refresh the ISO, it'll take longer and longer to update as they add new W10 features!

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Indeed, and there'll always be an ISO for MSDN/DS users anyway.

Not a huge amount different to any previous version of Windows, if I install a non-SP1 copy of Windows 7 it's a good 2-3 hours to catch up with Windows Updates, even with an SP1 install there's still a good hour or two of updates regardless.

That said future updates *might* be bigger but no conceptually different. But if they do keep growing it won't be long before it won't fit on a standard 4.35GB DVD anymore, it already stopped fitting on a 4GB USB stick.

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On XP SP2 I copied the entire profile to the new user, seemed to work OK. I would guess something similar will work for the later OS. Don't forget to include hidden and system files.

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A Windows 10 upgrade for preview users is distributed through Windows update

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yeah but the update downloads an ESD image which can in turn be turned into an ISO I believe

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ended up being quick and painless

settings -> accounts->disconnect my Microsoft Account

asked my password, then new login details, and it's created an new account using same profile :)

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What I would like to do is rename my user account folder to my real name as Windows 10 took it upon itself to use the first 5 letters of the email address, is that possible without everything going pear shaped?

Edit

Just had a very quick google and if it is the same with other OS then I may try this.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...f-e9949b3ffbda

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mine is my name, but this machine was upgrade 8, 8.1 where I guess I chose the same name, that I've just rechosen, so profile path has that name.

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http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-1...mes-to-redmond

Lovely. Something seriously stinks with Microsoft.

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has there actually been an official release date as of yet? as i have read so many different things.

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I think it is said to go RTM at the end of July, are you running it yet it maybe a good time to install the preview?

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I knew they were up to something, still it takes 3 min to remove it after a free upgrade so it's not the worse thing in the world.

I was more concerned they would add ads.

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hardly a cause for concern the Store is full of pay as you play games you are not forced to play or pay for that matter. So M$ bundle a game in an OS they are giving away for a year oh the dodgy gits eh :)

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No worse than when you used to get all the basic games installed on Windows i.e. Hearts, Minesweeper, Pinball. Just that it comes from a 3rd party rather than Microsoft themselves.

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Those games were good though when compared to this candy crush nonsense

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Genuine Windows and Windows 10

May 15, 2015 by Terry Myerson // PC, Phone, Tablet //

This week we shared more details about Windows 10 “editions.” Today, I thought I would provide answers to some questions we’ve received regarding how this will work for Genuine vs. Non-Genuine Windows.

With Windows 10, we have extended an offer to our Genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10 for free. Once a customer upgrades, they will continue to receive ongoing Windows innovation and security updates for free, for the supported lifetime of that device.

These customers purchased their Genuine Windows license from our valued OEM partners, which ensures Windows is properly installed, licensed, and not tampered with. Windows 10 offers our customers an even more secure and modern experience. Bringing all of our customers to Windows 10 improves the ecosystem for developers which makes Windows better for all of our customers. We are working hard to make the in-place upgrade experience from Windows 7 or Windows 8, to Windows 10, seamless for the customer. Throughout the Windows world, I am humbled by the excitement being associated with this opportunity to upgrade to Windows 10.

When we can’t verify that Windows is properly installed, licensed, and not tampered with, we create a desktop watermark to notify the user. If you ever encounter this watermark on a new machine, I encourage you to return the device immediately to the retailer from whom you purchased it and request a Genuine Windows device. Non-Genuine Windows has a high risk of malware, fraud, public exposure of your personal information, and a higher risk for poor performance or feature malfunctions. Non-Genuine Windows is not supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner.

Microsoft and our OEM partners know that many consumers are unwitting victims of piracy, and with Windows 10, we would like all of our customers to move forward with us together. While our free offer to upgrade to Windows 10 will not apply to Non-Genuine Windows devices, and as we’ve always done, we will continue to offer Windows 10 to customers running devices in a Non-Genuine state. In addition, in partnership with some of our valued OEM partners, we are planning very attractive Windows 10 upgrade offers for their customers running one of their older devices in a Non-Genuine state. Please stay tuned to learn more from our partners on the specifics of their offers.

Windows 10 is still in development and we won’t be able to answer all questions yet, but I hope this provides some clarification on important topics. If you’d like to help shape the future of Windows and contribute to Windows 10, please join the Windows Insider Program, where you can download technical previews of Windows 10 and provide us valuable feedback.

Thank you for your support of Windows and our Windows partners by choosing genuine Windows 10.

Terry

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So are they saying non genuine will just have a watermark?

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we don't know if they get updates if it non genuine

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Wondering whether to try and install windows 10 on my very old laptop just incase insiders do endup getting a free legit copy.

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Security patches will be available M$ will not want vulnerable machines biting them back. Non genuine OSes previously slowed down blanked the background and didnt update anything extra than security patches I expect Win 10 to be similar but maybe be fully functional until the subscription packages become available when I expect the non genuine will start to have other issues

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Really liking windows 10 so far, what are other peoples view?

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it coming along very nicely indeed :):)

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Must have another go with it, does anyone here using a laptop connected to monitor/TV have it working OK? I assume that at some point it would update the relevant drivers to enable me to use the TV as main monitor? Because to be honest, that is the only thing stopping me using Windows 10 on a permanent basis atm.

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No idea mark, what was the last version you installed?

I hope there is another update soon.

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Windows 10? Probably the version of Windows 10 about 3 downloads ago.

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We're on 10074 now, maybe try googling your problem or findout what drivers you used?

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yes try build 10074 it better and more stable might work with using your tv as monitor too

here is ISO link for it

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...so-update-1504

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Nvidia release first WHQL driver for Windows 10, for supported devices.

http://www.neowin.net/news/nvidia-re...for-windows-10

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Just put 10 back on, and the 4th update it did was a graphics one. Plugged in my TV, and it recognised it straight away. So think will use 10 for a while now. Can I just delete the partition with 8 on and add it to the 10 partition, or will I need to go back and do clean install? Hoping I can do the former really, can always allocate the C letter back afterwards if needs be.

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I think you should be able to delete the partition but i can't remember how to do it, but someone will be along to sort you out i am sure.

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Hope fully testers will get it free. No need to upgrade or need win7 or win8
If am wrong then there will be dad loader for the rescue

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Hhhhhmmm still not got round to trying this since a very early build, I am at the post now where I may as well wait for final release I guess. I hope for good things from cortana.

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Have a weird problem, I have 2 lots of each folder under my name. For instance, 2 lots of Downloads, 2 lots of Music, 2 lots of Pictures, etc. I tried deleting 1 of the Documents folders which backfired as it deleted both, so need to know how to get that back.

Screenshot attached. Also, I have checked both folders for each one and they both point to same destination (C:\Users\MarkC1984).

HELP!

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Managed to get Documents folder back, but 2 of those as well again.

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Did you do a clean install as that is always the best way to go?

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Theres to many Contradictions.
They said said before pirate win7 and win8 will get it free as well.
they say Windows 10 free for testers.
Then they say only free valid license Windows 7 and win8.
there so many contradiction so far I read.
All saying different things. It's not clear if testers really will get Windows 10 free. For nothing without having Windows 7 or 8 licence.

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Not since attempt 3 last night, would that be the best way to go now? Hope not as have it running smoothly now. If I have to put up with it then I will. Just a bit confusing really.

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If you have everything working how you like it just wait for a new build until release as it is a pain to reinstall everything.

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Yeah, will wait for next build to come out. Which is better, the slow or fast setting in updates for 10?

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Personally i use the slow setting as it is probably more stable but i only did my first clean install of Windows 10 a week ago so i didn't want to take the risk of things not working.

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Having just read through this

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...raspberry-pi-2

It doesn't look ike the Pi2 is not getting a 'proper' release of windows 10 - well at least not yet.

Ah well, I guess I'll stick with Ubuntu Mate or Raspian for now :)

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Anyone else having trouble doing multiple tasks on Windows 10? Right now, was watching a video in Media Player Classic and tried loading 3 web pages. They said loading until I shut the Media Player down, and wham they loaded instantly.

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Just tried replicating the problem ~ no trouble here

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No trouble here also, this is on a clean install and was using Google Chrome and watching 1080p media.

You say Media player classic is that just the normal windows media player in 10 as that is what i am using?

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No, installed with a codec pack. I think I found the problem, Windows Update popped up telling me it had failed to install an update. Stopped everything, did the update and working as normal now.

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I didn't think we needed codec packs installed these days on Windows, windows 10 even supports mkv native now.

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Just habit I'm afraid. So used to having to install the pack every install.

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Maybe try it without the pack, no point installing it if not needed and may solve other problems. :)

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Windows 10 is working pretty well for me, no multitasking issues etc, and I haven't used a codec pack in years also.

Well one small thing, the Start Menu will not work, at all. Using Classic Shell for the time being, the Update MS released to fix it didn't work either, weird.

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Did you clean install?

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still prefer MPC myself and still install CCCP codec pack as a matter of course.

My main issue is the removal of the old windows update and the choices you had with it and they keep pushing AMD engineering sample drivers which break my HDMI audio and do not cut it in games. Also far to many settings in different places some in Control panel do not work and you have to go looking for it in various other places. Hope they just use one and instead of the setting app they opt for control panel

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Not for the last build, which appears to be the culrpit.

I'll clean install when I get the chance, but a very weird bug if indeed just upgrading between builds can kill the Start Menu dead. I had planned to only clean install once Win10 came out properly however, we shall see, as for now Classic Shell does the job fine.

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Not sure about the tool, but there will be an ISO according to this matrix

http://www.tenforums.com/attachments...0711-10-29.jpg


http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...eed-to-run-it/


Great news having ISO's :)

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Those running 10 as their main system, what have you done re: printers? There is no driver up for 10, and as my printer is well over 7 years old now I doubt a new one would be done for 10. Would the driver for 8 or 8.1 be OK to use for a while?

Got an HP F380 Deskjet if that helps.

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try windows 8.1 drivers should work mate

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Thanks Dave.

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No problems with my HP 8450 which must be of the same sort of vintage.

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Windows 8 drivers will almost certainly work for most hardware. I run Windows 7 drivers on my epson to get cd printing working the OTB drivers managed to run everything else on it

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Admittedly, I don't have a printer (got rid of the last one when when I found that after having it for a few years, I hadn't even printed enough to use the first ream of paper I'd bought with the printer), and my computer no longer has some of the weirder hardware it had (such as a hardware DVD playback card) as I no longer need it, so drivers are not as much of a problem as they once were. I have found, however, that Windows 8 or 8.1 drivers do work on Windows 10 even if the driver does not explicitly support Windows 10.

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I am interested to hear why are people checking out Win 10?

I am running a Dell desktop with Win 8.1 using IOBit Start Menu so what is the big gain in moving to 10? Just curious ..

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For me it is just something new and FREE, i also wanted the start menu back without having to install other software.

Things off the top of my head

FREE upgrade for the first year
Start menu
Virtual Desktops
Universal apps on desktop
Edge Browser
Xbox games integration
Task View
DirectX 12
Voice assistant notification centre.

Probably plenty of other things hidden under the skin too.

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Bored of 8, getting fed up with it continually trying to install 8.1 which at some point installs an update which crashes the laptop, resulting in a clean install. Plus it was free as has been mentioned. And I'm impatient.

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You didn't fresh install 8.1 ?

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Well there will be plenty of people later this year with new machines running 10 that will inevitably come to me to be set up so knowing an OS early is a good thing. Plus its a free upgrade from 8.1 and of course the biggest benefit is Direct X 12 and the possibility of running 2 different GFX together

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These are some good upgrades, thanks.

I downloaded the Win 10 TP and am running it in a VirtualBox VM. Is this as far as it goes at the moment? I noticed that Windows Update is locked down unless I have a install problem.

Is MS guarenteeing Win 10 will be 100% compatible w/Win 7/8 drivers or will the vendors need to push out Win 10 specific drivers?

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Only reason for me as well. I swore i would never pay for another piece of software from Microsoft after the way they treated me over windows 8.

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M$ will never do that I am assuming most will work some wont install as a package but will install forced and few will not run at all but these will be older devices

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I haven't had any problems installing Windows 8 drivers for my printer on Windows 10, from what i gather if there isn't a Windows 10 driver then we can easily use the 1 for Windows 8.1.

Been running it 2 weeks now with no real issues.

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confimed windows insiders qualify for free windows 10

Will non-genuine Windows licenses qualify for the Windows 10 upgrade?

The simple answer is no. This is what Terry Mason had to say:

Microsoft and our OEM partners know that many consumers are unwitting victims of piracy, and with Windows 10, we would like all of our customers to move forward with us together. While our free offer to upgrade to Windows 10 will not apply to Non-Genuine Windows devices, and as we’ve always done, we will continue to offer Windows 10 to customers running devices in a Non-Genuine state. In addition, in partnership with some of our valued OEM partners, we are planning very attractive Windows 10 upgrade offers for their customers running one of their older devices in a Non-Genuine state. Please stay tuned to learn more from our partners on the specifics of their offers.

One way to work around this is by joining the Windows Insider Program and migrate to the Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview which will qualify for a free upgrade to the final RTM release of Windows 10.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...4-45f4b7ed2fb9