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[QUOTE=Dave_Gosport;35714489]BBC News should have the better EPG listing. Sky lost the top spot when the Sky Basics were removed and BBC News replaced them. In addition BBC News HD was made available from launch, whilst Sky News HD hasn't. Then there's the quality aspect...

Yes, I too suspect that the channel is being wound down and, therefore, won't be coming to VM.

VM like to keep the x00 channel numbers for barker channels in the various genres.

Same here, anyone who doesn't want them visible can easily remove them from the EPG :)

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Sky Sports News HD update.

Base on information I saw on July 3rd Sky Sports News HD is NOT set to launch until next year (Been given date of 'Early 2015').

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That is the worst list of channel numbering updates ever!! Lol

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As you agree and as you're saying you're not the guilty party here, all is forgiven. I save my wrath for the true culprit.:)

But I'm not sure where you're coming from when you're talking about replacing SD channels with HD ones. That is not what this is about, we're not talking a HD/SD swap merely having numbered channels on the most logical channel number. Having a channel with 1 in it on channel position 502 is not logical and counterintuitive.

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Lol I'm glad you agree mate....I was trying to work out what order they had put it in, but your guess is as good as mine haha :D

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Virgin should have just said nothing about news channel coming would of be easier that way. to wait like 7+months for the channel seems a bit long to me when virgin say it will follow others channels launch but it's months away.

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Google is better :p:

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i dont believe they have actually said its coming, it remains speculation but logical after the agreement of missing premium HD to get remaining basic HD outstanding like SSN and SN

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[QUOTE=blue666666;35714575]Virgin should have just said nothing about news channel coming would of be easier that way. to wait like 7+months for the channel seems a bit long to me when virgin say it will follow others channels launch but it's months away.[/QUOTE

And this forum would be blazing with rage at the lack of information.....

Considering we have the unexpected bonus of all Sky Sports' main channels in HD I think VM have played a blinder here....

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they confirmed it same time as they confirmed sports 3+4 HD was coming said at a later date but looks like 2015 now

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Yes it is. I replied to post #331, which suggested putting SS1HD on 511. I explained why that wouldn't work.

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That is a later date, coming soon(Virgin speak).:)

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Forgive me but I would have thought having a sensible numbering system would outweigh the problems people without HD or SS channels have.

The numbering system we now have in ridiculous. It's not insurmountable as we will all get used to it but it looks and 'feels' stupid.

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The channels are far more important than the numbering.

Surely?

Am celebrating VM today!

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Indeed so and have said as much. It's a niggle, that's all. I'm sure there's a very good official reason why the numbers had to be so.... I'd love to hear it.

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I'm not following you at all here. This is nothing to do with HD, but basic common sense. Do you really think that having Sky Sports News in front on the main sports channels will entice people to subscribe to sports, or entice people to pay an extra £7 for sports in HD? If people want sports and want it in HD, they'll pay for it regardless of the position of Sky Sports News.

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Of course having a choice to watch something is far better than not having a choice if the channels are not available. But this is a long running thing with VM and its predecessors...

VM don't seem to understand that having a logical order for channels, aides useabilty and makes the service easier to use. If they did, they might actually get a lot more tv customers, rather than it being flat growth for years and allowing a new competitor like BT to park their tanks on VM's (tv) lawn.

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goodness did they really?,(edit: have since checked and yes my apologies) does seem long time to wait over half a year

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Right so now we have Sky Sports 3 & 4 in HD the moan now seems to be the channel numbers not being logical? Guys... DOES IT REALLY MATTER ONE IOTA?
Personally I wont be getting them in HD so long as the 7 quid charge remains but that`s just me.

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Hello friends any news today for an ignorant b%stard like myself?

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nope vince next launch gonna be sky sports 5

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Really do not agree that channel order has any relevance to customer numbers.
BT have come into the market primarily to use sport to gain broadband customers and their chief target remains BSkyB. If not they would never have agreed to let their sport onto the XL pack....

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To me Sam no it does not matter one iota.... :-)

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Confused. I cancelled the sport last month as it's a quiet summer.

What are my options? What is this £150 thing?

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If you are on or order the Big Kahuna package you can prepay £150 for ten months of Sky Sports in SD rather than it costing £27.25 per month......

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Ah right I see. Thanks. Can you do a similar thing if you want HD sports?

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virgin twitter

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@jk85 Hi James. Sky Sports News in HD is due to launch early next year on our platform :) Keep your eyes peeled o... http://goo.gl/xxPJyn
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:(:(:( i watch a lot of news too

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great news for people with a iphone ipad ect

http://my.virginmedia.com/customer-n.../sky-apps.html

Watch Sky Movies and Sky Sports on the go – available mid-August
For your viewing pleasure, this summer you'll be able to access Sky Movies and Sky Sports through their fantastic new apps. From mid-August just download the free Sky Movies app and Sky Sports apps for iPad, for iPhone and iPod touch from the App Store. Just in time for the Barclays Premier League.
This means that instead of watching Sky Movies and Sky Sports through TV Anywhere, you’ll now be able to enjoy them on your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch anywhere is the UK with a WiFi, 3G, 4G connection.
Don’t worry though – you’ll still be able to watch all your other channels on the go with TV Anywhere.

Then you can enjoy over 800 blockbusters, live movies, live sports, news clips, match highlights and in app cinema finder and loads more great features!

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Yes you buy the SD season ticket save the money and then pay the £7 per month HD fee....

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Android well come later in the year.:(

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Typical but not surprising.

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Android always last....

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And the thing is more people are using Android operating system phones then Apples operated phones.

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maybe the iphone are easier to do apps for don't know

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I know, I know... it's premium sports and films that drive subscription numbers, not the order of channels. But I expect that is what may lie behind this numbering decision, though.

VM may think that having the "in the clear" Sky Sports News channel in such a prominent position on the EPG may drive new Sky Sports subscriptions. What other reasons can they have for putting a minority channel right in front of the premium channels?

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A lot of customers watch Sky Sports News and Sky advertise their sports channels all the time on there so by putting it at 501 they believe it will attract people to subscribe to the Sky Sports premium channels one suspects.

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So we can watch premium channels on 3G and 4G, but not regular channels like ITV, Sky 1 and Channel 4 :shocked:

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There is far less variety in hardware specs for Apple devices so it makes it easier to develop for

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Yes, it does toady

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Thanks toady for that info.

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Traditionally, VM made nothing on the Sky Premium channels and might even have made a loss. They are only there to aid channel parity with (mainly) Sky to try and drive TV customer growth for the channels that do make the company money.

This is why, despite them being made available, VM never used to advertise the Sky premiums.

However, things appear to have changed. VM now advertise the Sky premium channels on their barker channels and VM now participate in the free promotional dates for Sky Sports channels at the same times as Sky customers.

The remaining HD sport channels have been made available to VM and the season ticket is good value. Considering that this is less than what Skys own customers pay (and that VM make nothing on these channels) I am assuming that Sky are subsidising this in some way.

The % of customers on VM who take Sky Sports is much lower than on Skys own platform, so there is a potential for growth to help offset the expected subscriber cancellations. Even if this requires promotional pricing, a discounted subscription is better than nothing. I'm really surprised that VM customers who buy the season ticket aren't tied into another 18-24 contract though.

All this leads me to believe that Sky are now using VM both in their battle against their competitors and to negate the expected loss of subscribers/revenue after the loss of sports rights.

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As per my comments above, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Sky had a lot of influence on these new EPG positions (or even made it part of the contractual carriage agreement).

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I've changed my channel order on Freeview to get into this Sky Sports business. BBC1 is now on 2. BBC2 is now on 3. ITV is on 4. 4 is on 5 and so on. I've put BBC News on channel 1.

Perfect.

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It's odd how no-one is complaining about bbc 3,4 and itv 2,3,4 more4, 4seven, film four not being on channels end in the corresponding numbers. How do people remember those numbers? Anything for people to have a moan at VM about I guess. Seriously, they are just channel numbers. You still have to type in three digits, regardless of the number.

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Exactly.

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They can't moan about not having the missing Skysports hd channels now so they've found something else to moan about.

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Well i'm assuming VM haven't paid for the mobile streaming rights whereas Sky have for their channels?

Does the BT sport app work over 3g/4g do you know?, i realise Sky/BT own the channels but i'd assume, again, that those rights are included in the PL contract.

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Just got in from my late shift. 4 pages to read?! well done its almost like the old days!

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Ugh - horrible renumbering - if things are going to be moved they should try and get the +1's at number +1 - easy to find if you missed something, but no, they BREAK the 139-140 Challenge / +1 sensible grouping!

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I'm glad to see someone's into this new fad that Virgin have started :)

Can you imagine trying to explain where the channels are to someone moving over from Sky? It would be enough to send em running back to Ruperts arms.;)

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Sorry MB was there any good reason why Sky Sports News HD wasn't launch yesterday with the other Sky Sports HD channels?

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Because it is not a Sky Premium channel. It is part of the basics channels.

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Well hush our mouths for having an opinion!

Most of of us who questioned the logic (or lack of) regarding the new channel line up prefaced it with thanking VM for getting the channels.

I don't consider questioning as moaning.

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I wasn't moaning either...I thought it was a little strange, but I can laugh about it. It's not going to make me throw the remote in anger or do the worst possible thing.....MOVE BACK TO SKY!!:D

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And its not a channel they can charge extra for so its low priority, lg seem to focus more on additional chargable channels and products at min :(

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You can rest assured I won't be doing any of that either lol

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So if I buy the big kahuna bundle with sky movies and sky sports season pass, does that work out a lot cheaper than having the sky movies/sports bundle? You used to get a discount for both, but I presume you have to pay full price for movies with the season pass.

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Big kahuna was £60.99 with each additional tivo costing £11.50 on top of that. That's what I was told anyway.

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Does the £60.99 include the phone line of £15.99 too?

I'm on the VIP, but looking at the Big Daddy package, I'm not sure it's worth changing. Has anyone else found this too?

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I've just posted this on another thread.
It a bit smoke and mirrors this offer.
If you are with VM on the top package you probably won't see any benefit by switching. I don't anyway. It's states £84.21 but without Sky movies or hd or any additional boxes. I have 3 boxes (inc 1 TiVo), Sky Sports and Movies all year round, 152 Mb broadband and talk unlimited extra on my phone and I don't pay a great deal more than this offer.
Yes compared to sky it does make huge savings.
Yes for people who just want to watch the football for the season and want to upgrade to this then it's an ok deal.
It's probably worth a call to retentions.

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I think it's more to do with the variation of Android devices, different screen sizes, specs etc.

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Thanks, I'll give them a buzz and see what they say. My contract is up 1st Aug. I'm definitely not going anywhere, but if I can save myself some money, it's all good ;)

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2 questions:

1) After the 10 month £150 upfront runs out - what price is sky sports per month?
2) Have VM said whether this offer will be repeated every year? or will I then be paying the normal rate again.....so in effect it's just 10 months discounted and no more.

Thanks

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goes back to normal rate here link

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...-on-sky-sports

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Thanks, so if you take up the offer of the discount plus HD, you'll effectively be paying £22 for HD sports for 10 months, then £34 after.

Better than nothing I suppose. I have until September to decide.

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New GOLD logo now live about time it had a make over the old one was rather outdated

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No it's channels that drive subscription numbers not just HD ones imo. The channel numbers matter not one jot to me am glad to say.

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Doesn't seem so no. I am paying £7 per month for Sky Movies....

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I don't see the point in obsessing over the channel numbers myself, it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe the EPG could be split into more sections to make the identification of the channel you want easier (for example, general entertainment, reality, period channels, etc) to break up the lists.

The actual order of channels you can decide for yourself, so frankly I don't know what the fuss is all about. VM would not be able to satisfy everyone in any case, we all have our personal preferences.

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How does this square with the constant cry that VM don't keep us informed about future plans, blue? Surely, the more we know about what's coming, the better, no matter how far away such launches are.

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You see, this makes no sense to me at all! BBC1 should be on 1!

Just makes my point that everyone is different and no method will please everyone.

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I set up a poll to gauge opinion on aligning the VM EPG with that of Sky. Approx 2/3 of respondents said no, with the main reason being that the Sky EPG was a mess itself!

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...pg-page-3.html

The ability to change the order of the EPG was lost when VM took over from NTL (don't know if this was ever available on Telewest- was it?)

Unless you meant 'favourites' :confused:

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Yes, and it is about time they updated the shows on offer during the day. I mean, who wants to watch Jeannie and Bewitched back to back all day long? I don't, and I seriously doubt any fan of the show does either.

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I agree, I'd rather know about any impending launches, no matter how far into the future.

I assumed (perhaps erroneously) that neilo was being sarcastic in putting BBC1 on 2 etc.

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Yes, I meant 'favourites', Richard.

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Thanks. To be honest I don't actually bother with 'favourites', do others use this facility to any great extent?

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Maybe he was, but then someone posted in a serious argument that they thought Sky News should be before BBC News. I think most of us would agree that BBC News is the best news channel and therefore should be first on the list. On the other hand, others think it is too left wing, object to paying the licence fee, etc, etc. and would never watch it!

This is why it is pointless discussing the order of the TV channels. Just add the ones you want to watch regularly to favourites and you have everything you need in one section of the guide.

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Yes it is of some use....

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Isn't the 'new logo' simply to promote the Golden Ticket to Monty Python Live??

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Actually I don't either, Richard, but it is one way of dealing with the pernickety requirements that some of us have.

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Oooh pernickety... lovely old word!

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Agree with you. I quite like seeing the odd episode of these shows but not everyday or back to back. Now `Fools And Horses`....could watch all day long!

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Agreed, the new GOLD logo is now on the mini EPG for TiVo boxes when you press the info button

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I use the favourites function a bit, although as "favourites" and "HD Channels" are very similar on my setup, perhaps it's not worth it.

I noticed Sky 1 had moved yesterday as I got home and hit 122, only for it to be no longer Sky 1 HD. I'll get used to the changes, I was with Sky for a few years (Sorry) until May so had to get used to a massive EPG shift & TiVo anyway.

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How are you finding the change over?

I left Sky a few years ago and haven't looked back since ;)

I always seem to use the EPG guide and HD filter when searching channels on TIVO, saves remembering the numbers ;)

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I used to be an ntl, then VM customer until 2011 when I moved to an area 50mtrs from cable (So close enough to get mail saying to join VM, far enough away for it to be a no go).

I got used to Sky, but missed VM, especially as their TV service was always excellent. Now I'm back on VM, and using TiVO I must say I enjoy it a lot more. As you say, I haven't looked back either really. The clever stuff TiVo does (& Netflix etc on the box itself) is a godsend.

Edit: Need to update my profile a bit, as it shows 20meg, which back a few years ago was a high tier!

Sweet Sky Sports 3 and 4 have launched in HD :))

Also F1 HD

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Ah, F1, the only thing that might tempt me into getting the Sky Sports channels back (I had them on Sky because of it), but sadly wasn't in HD until now.

Decisions decisions...

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I'm looking forward to this weekend's Grand Prix. The F1 SD channel was fuzzy, but better than not watching it at all. It is going to look stunning in glorious HD :D

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They've updated the printable pdf document with the new channel changes.

for anyone who finds this useful the link is here

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...MER_TYPE=Cable

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I can't wait!

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Yes, I am looking forward to seeing it in HD as well. I'll start it in SD, then switch to HD and marvel at the difference. Funny, some things you can't tell much difference between the 2, and yet others like golf and F1 you can see a much sharper picture.

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haha just so you can get the full impact...class.

I can normally notice when a channel isn't in HD. If someone in my house is watching a channel in SD that has a HD version, I normally clip them round the ear, grab the remote and change it to the HD channel :D

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Am I the only one who subscribes to Sky sports who hasn't got the HD channels yet.Mine are all greyed out.Any ideas anyone?

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You need to get the HD channels mate, you are missing out! :angel:

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Are you subscribed to the HD pack?

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Might be a random question, but when do people think the first 4K channel will be broadcast in the UK?

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Have you paid the £7 sub?

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You have to subscribe to the hd £7.50 mate

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I don't think it will be too far away if the 4K testing at the world cup was successful.

It will mean anyone who wants to watch 4K will need to have a 4K tele plus a 4K box, which TIVO isnt capable of at the moment.

Sky will probably lead the way though :mad:

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One quarter final match and the final was shown in 4K at a cinema in London.

As far as I am aware, Sky were the first to create a 3D channel in the UK, so no doubt they will be the first again as you said.

Will TIVO ever be able to show 4K, or won't it be possible?

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Thanks bud,I just thought since HD was free on Virgin,the sports pack would be.Doh!!

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I dont think this gen of TIVO will be able to do it. It will mean VM rolling out new boxes.

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Thanks. That will be a while away then.

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None of the current pay TV STB's are capable.

The new DVB-UHDTV Phase 1 will allow over the air transmission of 3840x2160 resolution at 60Hz with impproved colour depth , the standard uses HEVC compression.

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Further to the rumour I posted here last week that Murdoch might take over Time Warner, the folks at TW have decided they don't fancy it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28327604

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I wouldn't say little substance , however they're current offers been rebuffed.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...st-century-fox

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One suspects old Rupert will probably come back with a bigger offer despite being rebuffed this time..