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interesting piece ^

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Arsenal ready to smash records in £62m splurge on Higuain, Gundogan and Bender

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2Vhod3U26

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I hope you don't get Bender..I like to watch futurama :D

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Its just made up numbers, theres no fact behind it at all. It doesn't surprise me its the daily mail who have published it, the number of pointless articles they put on their website is amazing.

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I was disappointed in this.

Normally I don't even look at football stories along these lines, but was curious (hands were doing nothing at the time :D)

But that wasn't much to see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ch-Mexico.html

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Liverpool have agreed terms on a 4-year contract with the representatives of Luis Alberto. (Diario de Sevilla).


:Yes::Yes:

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http://www.clubcall.com/liverpool/sp...-1598183.html?

Alberto made five appearances off the bench in the Primera Division for Sevilla the season before last, including a 30-minute run-out in their 3-0 defeat to Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

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He is supposed to be rated pretty highly from those in the know.

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given your current team, you can't do much worse :)

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Well l suppose finishing second to your city rivals is your kind of trophy for the season.;):D

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No, just a place saver. :D

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Better that than finishing seventh with your city rivals in sixth, there's no trophy for that, only humiliation.

Joey Barton wants to become a coach when he retires

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...an-top-1940213

City in for de Maria

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...manuel-1940848

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I'll be annoyed if this happens...

I like El Shaarawy, decent player

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Why annoyed, were you hoping arsenal would get him?

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lovely. thanks.

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yeah. Wenger wanted him in last season or the season before but AC would sell, well not for peanuts.

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Don't panic...lots of rumours out there

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AC will want big money for him

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So Chelsea really are going to sell Mata and Luiz now too?

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seems to be the rumour

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Luiz maybe but not Mata in a month of Sunday's.

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Yes l like him too.

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Carroll would lower his wage demands and join Newcastle should they have a bid accepted, which they wont as they aren't interested in paying a penny over £10 million for him, makes me laugh the bit about lowering wage demands but asking West Ham for £100,000 a week. Pure Greed.

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The £35m fee went to his head

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another tele flop!! Brazil v France not on UK tele :mad:

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You have to remember that ESPN are not picking things up now.

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eurosport

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It'd.make me laugh to if it were true.

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Good news for English clubs it seems.

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But which :)

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Man Utd or Chelsea would be my guess but please remember that l am more wrong then right a good many times.:D

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Don't worry Den, I wouldn't forget that :D

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According to latest media reports, Chelsea have signed Edison Cavani from Napoli.

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link?

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Ditto, link?

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According to Italian sources but l am trying to get a link.

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Uomo stolto. si dovrebbe avere collegamento prima di postare
:D

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Please write in Scottish as l can understand that a bit easier.:D

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Dear diary date

The Premier League will release the fixture list at 9am on June 19th 2013

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2...on-june-19th/?

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Hoots nue man. Dinna post withoot link ya scunner
:D

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On seconds thought English diction is far better.;)

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Just heard a tasty one, Liverpool have agreed a twenty million fee for mikyhatarian (sp) the guy from shaktar, don't think it's.broken on any news source yet which is a coup for cf unless it's bs of course...

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If its true and it might be as l read from a few sources a couple of weeks ago that he was their big target of the summer.

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£85 million? LOL.

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Ronaldo > Bale.

Based on the current record transfer fee. There's also quite a few better than Bale. I hope Southampton have some sort of sell-on clause.


http://www.nufc.com/2012-13images/sj...ter-view-s.jpg

Newcastle are re-seeing the pitch and also painting over Sports Direct... can only mean bad things!

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He is worth £50 million and no more.

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For some reason it's good to remind ourselves at this at the moment as some places are going a bit overboard.

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again I hope to God that we dont miss out over a few million! we cant possibly miss out, Higuain and his family seem to be happy with a move to London, get the bloody deal done!

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The thing is if it was already at the high end you do begin to question if it's worth it. £25 million for Higuain might be too much...

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actually the 25m tag is cheap. look at his stats and the value the media had him down as prior to the 25m fee being reported. Arsenal are just being Arsenal, negotiating. I jsut hope we dont miss out over 5m.

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If I had £25m..I would buy him

Albeit i would need pocket change to live on :)

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The question you have to ask yourself is he value for money and l don't think he is.

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l thought your beloved master gave you plenty of pocket money dear chap.;)

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what would you do with him Colin, houseboy, gardener or donate him to the local Sunday league team?

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Loan him to Hearts...he would demolish the premier league :)

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So you're going for the Sunday league team option then... Boodum tish

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I take many don't rate Higuain then

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I rate him fine. £25 million is the type of price that makes you question it however. He may be worth that but it is a risk and you would want to make sure that other players are not available at that price or cheaper.

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sunderland confirm 3 signings

Valentin Roberge, Adilson Tavares Varela (Cabral) and Modibo Diakité set to join the club in July

http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2...cruitment-team

and looks like El Hadji Ba be next

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everythings a risk. its about taking the right ones. itll be great if a deal can be done between 20-25m pounds. wages will no doubt be 100k+

did you hear Ivan tonight?

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And it looks like the third will be a Spanish signing as well.

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look at what 1-1 at Newcastle has had to say...

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Do you agree with him thenry?

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I do!

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We know you do :P

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That's a first.;)

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Theres no denying Wenger is class. All in all minus the wasted the resources Wenger has been the second best manager of a football club and now thee best Fergie has retired so yeah.

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I don't see why people would say Ferguson is the best. He has continuously spent the highest amounts of money, breaking the british transfer record on numerous occasions and in the 90's didn't have any real competition. Blackburn made 1 investment but didn't sustain it for long enough to challenge properly. Arsenal under Wenger challenged him and won 3 titles against United in the space of 7 years with United winning 4 in that time, including a run of 3 in a row.

The only genuine challenge to United's dominance was Chelsea who were the first side to compete with United in the market. (Arsenal challenged United without matching their financial power which makes their victories even more impressive - as well as the style).

Now City have the money, it is not just Chelsea who United have to compete with in the market. Ferguson knows he should have retired before last season, realised he made a mistake, and was desperate to win it this season, so he could retire having won. If he'd lost this season, he would not have retired.

But Ferguson throughout his time had the top dollar. Arguably all teams who have dominated for long periods (Liverpool) have always spent big and that is true. But I put forward Brian Clough for the best manager ever.

It was a different era where it was possible to come up from division 2 one year and challenge for the title the next. But back to back European Cups with Forest was a fantastic achievement. Yes he spent, but everyone has done.

But what makes Clough stand out above Ferguson, is that he didn't tolerate any abuse of the referee. Ferguson has bullied the referees to the point where it became obvious that they dare not disobey him. Freakish runs without conceding penalties at Old Trafford, and runs of Ferdinand not conceding free-kicks and rooney not receiving bookings.

Ferguson has bullied the press to the point where they licked his arse for fear of falling foul of him.

Rant over.

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We're talking about today not yesterday.

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You can't judge Managers against each other without using their past as evidence to judge them on. How else would you decide who is best?

In that case, we will have to see how this season pans out.

But even, for eg. Pellegrini who many abroad say is a great coach, if he wins it this year will never be recognised because people will say he had the money. How much is it the money and how much the coach?

Mancini was snubbed for manager of the year last season in favour of Pardew.

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I think your mistaken of what we're talking about. The comments are about the best manager in the league right now not of all time.

btw I've always said Pellegrini is a great and I'm not abroad :p:

How did Mancini deserve manager of the year 2011/2012 lol he gave up at the end, it was the medias push that fired City up, the backlash of Mancini saying the titles gone, Mancinis not celebrating until it become clear City could actually do it etc etc. what a joke.

Pardew deserved the award on limited resources. Look up how much Newcastles wage spend was 11/12 and how much they spent on transfers.

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hes a FIFA agent

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Is this another ITK?

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cba :sleep:

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Mancini played "mind games" or gave up depending on which way you spin it. I firmly believe he never "gave up".

Newcastle spent £25m on transfer fees and their wage bill was £64.1m as a result of these aquisitions which is only behind City, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Aston Villa.

Therefore, it would be sensible to argue Newcastle over performed by finishing 1 point ahead of Chelsea. But in the same breath, Chelsea and more so Liverpool significantly underperformed in the league to the extent where Newcastle finished about where they should.

What can be said without doubt is that this seasons 16th place just 5 points above the relegation zone was a disgraceful underachievement.

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And for that any other manager would have received his P45.

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it would be sensible to stick to one debate rather than jump to another, or another year for that matter :p: Mancini wasn't ignored of the manager of the year award 11/12, he missed out for very good reasons. Not many people buy into the mind games front, it really did look like he gave up.

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Good signing for City and better then most of the rubbish they signed last season.

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Stuart Pearce is surely going to be sacked

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I've never rated him as a manager but i do feel sorry for him. Unlike other countries at the tournament there are a fair few U21 players not there for England because they have been involved with the main squad and/or injured. Obviously they are the 'better' players as well, because they have been called up to the main squad.

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Kyle Walker, Luke Shaw, Jack Rodwell, Phil Jones, Raheem Sterling, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Danny Welbeck and Jack Wilshere are all eligible and not there.

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Is that your Victor Meldrew impersonation? :erm:

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Alas there are others on here who would be perfectly cast for the role of Victor Meldrew.;)

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Not a chance of him going there bud.

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Yes much better than Sinclair

I didn't. You told me to look up Newcastle's transfer and wages spend. And I did. And it was for the same year.

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Let's end this argument with fact's shall we.

Alex Ferguson transfer spend over 26 years: £546.5m
Total Recouped: £320.0m
Total spent with above factored in @ £226.5m

13 PremierLeague Titles.
5 FA Cup's
4 League cup's
2 Champions League's
1 Super cup
1 Uefa cup winner's cup
1 Club world cup.
Manager of the season x11
Manager of the decade x1
plenty other trophies.

and about 50 other awards under Manchester United.


Roberto Mancini in 4 years.

Spent: £285m
Recouped: 0m.
Net: £285m

1 x Premier League
1 x FA CUP
1 x Community Shield.

An absolutely shocking amount to spend with minimal return from it. Only to then publicly say he wanted to sign more players... Mancini deserved what he got at the end of the day.


Sir Alex Ferguson is undoubtedly the greatest manager of all time by far in my opinion. He may indeed have had big money but he spent it a lot wiser than any other manager out there.

The idea that money leads to greatness argument is old and stale now, Freddy Shepherd nearly destroyed Newcastle United by buying players that were highly rated but then flopped in the English League. Liverpool have spent massively in the past 3 years and have nothing to show for it in terms of League Standing.

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Like it. ^^^^^^^:D And Uniteds money was generated by the club itself. :p:

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Manchini didn't sell one player :confused:

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Indeed those parasites that took over wouldn't have don't it if they had to put their own cash in...

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Fergie and United had won one or two baubles long before the Glaziers came on the scene.;)

Didn't Mancini sell Super Mario?

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The club sold Balo from under him (I believe).

It is of course a distortion to ignore the effects of inflation. For example, the British transfer record £3.75m in 1993 would equate to a lot more in today's money. Rooney, at the time dubbed the new Gascoigne would cost more than £25m today. Rio Ferdinand was £30m in 2001. But that is your wont.

As for an objective view:

City and United finished level on points in 11/12.
United strengthened their squad.

City lost De Jong, Adam Johnson, and Balotelli (for 2nd half of season)

Signings: Garcia, Maicon, Sinclair, Rodwell.

That transfer activity weakened City's team.

Obvious conclusion = Utd win the title.

BTW, net spend last season was barely £10m

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hope so :)

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No chance of getting him l am afraid because if he did leave he would go to the highest payers and Arsenal ain't that.

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Messi and his dad in tax fiddle investigation.:shocked:

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All those wages and they are still trying to diddle the taxman.

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Age old story...the rich want more..the poor struggle to keep what little they have

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Baby Arsene Wenger

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...6/11.jpg:large

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Bless him.:D

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i hope he doesnt screw it up!

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The lure of the champions you see.

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again I ask do you read posts in this thread?

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I like the look of isco, watching him at the under 21s

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someones bound to trigger his 30m release clause soon.

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Going to one of the top Spanish clubs from what l hear.