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denphone 07-05-2013 17:56

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569052)
Would like to see something that improves on the Tivo as not really impressed by it at all.

Well personally l find the TiVo as far superior to any other STB's on the market and so do the other 2 million who have switched over to the step change STB.

BexTech 07-05-2013 18:17

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569054)
Well personally l find the TiVo as far superior to any other STB's on the market and so do the other 2 million who have switched over to the step change STB.

Maybe so, but look how many people aren't happy with it.

It's not the all singing all dancing box it was made out to be.

Let down by an EPG that is often out of date.

Clunky compared to satellite boxes that are nice and slick.

Mostly pointless apps that we never use and are too clunky and slow anyway.

My family and friends still have a V+ and Sky+HD and after me having Tivo for around 2 years all but two don't want the Tivo, they don't like it, the other two aren't fussed but wouldn't say no, but wouldn't go out their way to have one installed either.

Most people want a box that is slick and records the programmes they set to record, the Tivo is not slick and struggles to get recordings right.

I'm used to more than just Sky boxes too.

passingbat 07-05-2013 18:19

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569052)
Would like to see something that improves on the Tivo as not really impressed by it at all.


Well, the last time I researched the Horizon box (when the Liberty thing first came up) that certainly wasn't an improvement; people were having all sorts of problems with it.

Yes, it has 4 tuners, but the US has a Tivo box with 4 tuners. The Horizon box doesn't have Whishlists --- one of the best features on Tivo.

I seem to remember thinking that there was nothing on the Horizon box that couldn't be added to Tivo, but there were things on Tivo that couldn't be added to Horizon because of patent restrictions.

BexTech 07-05-2013 18:27

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35569065)
Well, the last time I researched the Horizon box (when the Liberty thing first came up) that certainly wasn't an improvement; people were having all sorts of problems with it.

Yes, it has 4 tuners, but the US has a Tivo box with 4 tuners. The Horizon box doesn't have Whishlists --- one of the best features on Tivo.

I seem to remember thinking that there was nothing on the Horizon box that couldn't be added to Tivo, but there were things on Tivo that couldn't be added to Horizon because of patent restrictions.

Had Tivo around two years, and only recently bothered with wishlists.

Just needs a rocket up its backside and more up to date EPG system, decent apps that aren't sluggish to load up and use.

Since having the Tivo have had 4 Tivos and lived in 4 different areas, 3 in Brum, 1 in Telford, all are clunky. Been to friends of friends who have Tivo too and there's is the same, just not slick enough. I'm so use to pressing a button and my other boxes instantly responding.

passingbat 07-05-2013 18:34

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569063)
Maybe so, but look how many people aren't happy with it.

How many? do you have percentage figures for those who actually have Tivo?

Quote:

It's not the all singing all dancing box it was made out to be.
What features that it was advertised as having does it not have?

What features are missing that you think it should have?

Quote:

Let down by an EPG that is often out of date.
I can't think of the last time I had a problem (if I've even had any at all) with the EPG.

Quote:

Clunky compared to satellite boxes that are nice and slick.
It's easy to make a PVR more slick if it doesn't have much functionality.

I'd take a PVR with more functionality, even though it may take a few more menu presses, over a PVR with less functionality any day.

Quote:

Mostly pointless apps that we never use and are too clunky and slow anyway.
Agree with you on the pointless apps. VM screwed up on that one.

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Quote:

Most people want a box that is slick and records the programmes they set to record, the Tivo is not slick and struggles to get recordings right.

Your evidence for this?

BexTech 07-05-2013 20:47

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
The way VM try and make out it's all singing all dancing when at the end of the day, it's a PVR with a few pointless apps.

My evidence is from feedback on various sites, friends, family and myself.

Not a day goes by where there's some EPG issue and records wrong programmes.

There are some really good PVR satellite boxes out there running the likes of linux, where you can add various features including things very similar to wish-lists and do all kinds of tricks and control it over the web and watch its output over the web and they run fast too.

passingbat 07-05-2013 21:19

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569115)
The way VM try and make out it's all singing all dancing when at the end of the day, it's a PVR with a few pointless apps.
.

In the pay TV sector, which other provider offers a PVR that does the following:

Records 3 channels simultaneously

Buffers all 3 channels when not recording

Automatically fixes recording clashes

Has Whishlists for shows, actors, directors etc. with extensive filtering options

Gives you a choice of recording options, such as New or Repeats and other recording options and allows you to set these as defaults

Keeps Series links for ever when set; no need to set up a new series link each season of a show or after extended mid season breaks

Has intelligent search which allows you to directly set up a Recording, Series Link or Whishlist

Has a direct link to Youtube from that search to sample clips from a show you may never have seen

Direct link to On Demand for any shows that are available from the search

Has full series, season and episode information on a show along with a selection of the actors with details of some of the other things they have been in, with options to set recordings and whishlists.

Optional automatic recording of suggestions based on shows you have series links for or 'thumbed up'

Multi room streaming, though granted the channel selection is very poor ATM

Browse TV and film selections in different categories

Pierre 07-05-2013 22:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569063)
Maybe so, but look how many people aren't happy with it.

How many is that then?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569115)
The way VM try and make out it's all singing all dancing when at the end of the day, it's a PVR with a few pointless apps.

My evidence is from feedback on various sites, friends, family and myself.

Not a day goes by where there's some EPG issue and records wrong programmes.

There are some really good PVR satellite boxes out there running the likes of linux, where you can add various features including things very similar to wish-lists and do all kinds of tricks and control it over the web and watch its output over the web and they run fast too.

So you don't have any real data on the claims you made?

Mr Banana 08-05-2013 09:14

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
New CEO for VM announced -

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...94707E20130508

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-virgin-media/

Sirius 08-05-2013 10:16

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569054)
Well personally l find the TiVo as far superior to any other STB's on the market and so do the other 2 million who have switched over to the step change STB.

Agreed, i have 3 of the buggers now all connected via multiroom streaming.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569115)
The way VM try and make out it's all singing all dancing when at the end of the day, it's a PVR with a few pointless apps.

My evidence is from feedback on various sites, friends, family and myself.

Not a day goes by where there's some EPG issue and records wrong programmes.

There are some really good PVR satellite boxes out there running the likes of linux, where you can add various features including things very similar to wish-lists and do all kinds of tricks and control it over the web and watch its output over the web and they run fast too.

Considering how many people have Tivo with VM and the fact you are posting on one of the biggest forums related to the cable industry, do you not think it would be flooded with complaints about how bad Tivo is if they were as bad as you are making out.

Sorry but just because you don't think there any good does not equate to everyone not liking them. Tivo is a far better product than the old V plus or Basic cable box.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569172)
How many is that then?

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So you don't have any real data on the claims you made?

Figures plucked out of the air and attempts to make it good by quoting friends and relatives. Plus this is a cable product not a satellite product and most Linux sat boxes are only there for one reason. ;)

BenMcr 08-05-2013 11:21

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569285)

Interesting choice

denphone 08-05-2013 12:02

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35569340)
Interesting choice

Why's that Ben?.

Bogof 08-05-2013 12:05

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35569340)
Interesting choice

Ohhh this won't be popular on here, the guy had been with Murdoch for 22 years and was at the top of News Corp, tainted by the hacking scandal. Looking forward to Denphones view on this:D:D:D:D

Mr Banana 08-05-2013 12:34

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35569370)
Ohhh this won't be popular on here, the guy had been with Murdoch for 22 years and was at the top of News Corp, tainted by the hacking scandal. Looking forward to Denphones view on this:D:D:D:D

Have not seen his name mentioned anywhere in that scandal, didn't he replace brooks after the crap hit the fan?

BenMcr 08-05-2013 12:39

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569369)
Why's that Ben?.

Just is lol.

Pierre 08-05-2013 13:12

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35569370)
Ohhh this won't be popular on here, the guy had been with Murdoch for 22 years and was at the top of News Corp, tainted by the hacking scandal. Looking forward to Denphones view on this:D:D:D:D

Who cares, looks like he's well experienced.

As long as he does a good job, who cares where he's from

passingbat 08-05-2013 13:17

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Possibly not a bad idea to have someone who knows how VM's biggest rival operates and thinks?

Horizon 08-05-2013 13:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35569390)
Possibly not a bad idea to have someone who knows how VM's biggest rival operates and thinks?

Yes, I agree.

Apart from the initial shock that one of Murdoch's henchmen has been appointed, after a little reflection and realising that he is a EX-Murdoch henchman, this could be a very good move by Liberty.

And he's a Kiwi too, so that's two in a row for VM!

Sirius 08-05-2013 14:07

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35569370)
Ohhh this won't be popular on here, the guy had been with Murdoch for 22 years and was at the top of News Corp, tainted by the hacking scandal. Looking forward to Denphones view on this:D:D:D:D

Cards on the table for me, i don't like the choice but i have to go with what the senior managers have decided. I suppose his knowledge of Sky and they anti competitive ways will help in any negotiations Vm hold with Sky.

Bogof 08-05-2013 14:21

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35569404)
Cards on the table for me, i don't like the choice but i have to go with what the senior managers have decided. I suppose his knowledge of Sky and they anti competitive ways will help in any negotiations Vm hold with Sky.

It's going to be beneficial for both sides, after 22 years with Murdoch he will know a lot of people within BskyB which has to be good for VM. An BskyB will also have a man on the "inside" at VM.

After 22 years in one company he will have good friends and strong allegancies. He will be professional of course but does he still go for dinner with friends from his 22 years with Murdoch, an do those friends still work within murdochs empire

Of course the inner workings of VM will be discussed over informal dinner chats, Murdoch must of trusted him to put him in charge of Sky Italia and News Int in be uk.

Sirius 08-05-2013 15:29

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35569412)
It's going to be beneficial for both sides, after 22 years with Murdoch he will know a lot of people within BskyB which has to be good for VM. An BskyB will also have a man on the "inside" at VM.

After 22 years in one company he will have good friends and strong allegancies. He will be professional of course but does he still go for dinner with friends from his 22 years with Murdoch, an do those friends still work within murdochs empire

Of course the inner workings of VM will be discussed over informal dinner chats, Murdoch must of trusted him to put him in charge of Sky Italia and News Int in be uk.

It's his connection with the devils sidekick that worries me.

denphone 08-05-2013 15:56

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35569431)
It's his connection with the devils sidekick that worries me.

Sorry but l think your worries are misplaced and over exaggerated old boy.:)

denphone 08-05-2013 18:00

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35569370)
Ohhh this won't be popular on here, the guy had been with Murdoch for 22 years and was at the top of News Corp, tainted by the hacking scandal. Looking forward to Denphones view on this:D:D:D:D

Oh don't worry about my views dear chap as l find your posts much more revealing and educational.:D:D

Media Boy UK 08-05-2013 19:08

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Incoming Virgin Media chief rules out war with Sky for football rights.

Quote:

Asked whether Virgin Media would bid for the Premiership at the next rights auction, Mockridge said: "The short answer is no. There's plenty of other people prepared to bid good money for football. Our strategy has been invest in content opportunistically but not bet the ranch on it."

However, he left the door open to expanding the footprint of Virgin's cable network, which currently reaches half of the UK population, with the rest served mainly by BT's network.

"There might be other ways of expanding the reach of Virgin Media, it's too soon to say. It is something we will look at more closely but we are not proclaiming any strategic areas here today."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...e-sky-football

BexTech 08-05-2013 20:27

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Those who've set their boxes to record A Question Of Sport tonight, the box with record something completely different, as schedule change has happened and whereas Freeview and Sky/Satellite have up-to-date EPG, Virgin EPG doesn't get updated as and when changes happen.

Hugh 08-05-2013 20:29

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Oh noes!

Life is no longer worth living....

Sirius 08-05-2013 20:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569606)
Those who've set their boxes to record A Question Of Sport tonight, the box with record something completely different, as schedule change has happened and whereas Freeview and Sky/Satellite have up-to-date EPG, Virgin EPG doesn't get updated as and when changes happen.

Thanks for the warning i will set a manual one instead. oh wait i did not set it to record anyway

BexTech 08-05-2013 20:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Just hate an EPG that isn't kept up-to-date, satellite and Freeview have managed since 1998.

Throughout every day there's programmes that are incorrect on the Virgin EPG and not updated, also when schedules change, Virgin EPG doesn't get corrected. Not really fit for the purpose.

The other day my Tivo recorded 8 programmes, because the EPG said it was one programme when it was something completely different. Often it's recording one or two programmes a day that are different to what the EPG says it is.

Just really annoys the hell out of me.

Hugh 08-05-2013 20:56

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Strange - never had this issue.

Perhaps the TiVo knows you don't like it, and is mirroring your feelings...;)

BexTech 08-05-2013 21:11

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35569623)
Strange - never had this issue.

Perhaps the TiVo knows you don't like it, and is mirroring your feelings...;)

Find that extremely hard to believe to be honest.

EPG has had loads of incorrect entries, maybe you don't set many programmes, series links or wish-lists, because you'd have to be hit by the box recording for example Dr Who when the EPG list the programme as Top Gear.

joglynne 08-05-2013 21:34

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Not sure if this is still relevant but the Red bee site contains some information about the EPG and, in part, says
Quote:


Our in-house TeleView system already contains many of the channels that make up the Virgin platform, so our solution was to link them into a bundle that could be technically processed and coded for delivery to the various platforms. We also deal with late schedule changes by updating the EPG to minimise the impact on Virgin’s viewing customers.
http://www.redbeemedia.com/work/bund...a-virgin-media

GrimUpNorth 08-05-2013 21:46

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569614)
Just hate an EPG that isn't kept up-to-date, satellite and Freeview have managed since 1998.

Throughout every day there's programmes that are incorrect on the Virgin EPG and not updated, also when schedules change, Virgin EPG doesn't get corrected. Not really fit for the purpose.

The other day my Tivo recorded 8 programmes, because the EPG said it was one programme when it was something completely different. Often it's recording one or two programmes a day that are different to what the EPG says it is.

Just really annoys the hell out of me.

You must have very different viewing tastes to Mrs G - she does 90% of the recording on our box and has no issues, and trust me she'd make sure I knew if the EPG was the crock of bleep that you make out it is.

If you back up your 'Throughout every day there's programmes that are incorrect on the Virgin EPG and not updated' statement with multiple daily examples I'll be more than happy to admit that I'm wrong and you're right, but until then I and many other will be sceptical and take your comments with a pinch of salt.

Cheers

Grim

BexTech 08-05-2013 21:54

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35569634)
Not sure if this is still relevant but the Red bee site contains some information about the EPG and, in part, says


http://www.redbeemedia.com/work/bund...a-virgin-media

Shame Virgin make no use of the updates.

Still showing wrong details now.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35569641)
You must have very different viewing tastes to Mrs G - she does 90% of the recording on our box and has no issues, and trust me she'd make sure I knew if the EPG was the crock of bleep that you make out it is.

If you back up your 'Throughout every day there's programmes that are incorrect on the Virgin EPG and not updated' statement with multiple daily examples I'll be more than happy to admit that I'm wrong and you're right, but until then I and many other will be sceptical and take your comments with a pinch of salt.

Cheers

Grim

I'll try and remember to keep notes, got health problems at moment.

Hugh 08-05-2013 22:10

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569626)
Find that extremely hard to believe to be honest.

EPG has had loads of incorrect entries, maybe you don't set many programmes, series links or wish-lists, because you'd have to be hit by the box recording for example Dr Who when the EPG list the programme as Top Gear.

I refer you to my signature.....;)

I have around 10 wishlists, and have around 16 series links, and make ad-hoc recordings around half a dozen times a week.

You obviously have issues, but you appear to be assuming, by your recent posts, a large majority of TiVo customers share your problems - if that were true, it is highly likely they would be voicing their concerns here, and that doesn't appear to be happening.

Whilst absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence, recent history has shown CF'ers are fairly vociferous in highlighting any issues they have...:D

btw, fairly impressed that Freeview were updating their EPG in 1998, since it didn't exist until 2002 (unless you meant it's earlier unsuccessful incarnations of ONdigital/ITV Digital...).

Pierre 08-05-2013 22:16

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569614)
Just hate an EPG that isn't kept up-to-date, satellite and Freeview have managed since 1998.

I've had a sky+ & Sky+ HD since they first come out, and when you series link shows, for no apparent reason, they stop recording the shows after a while, you have to keep an eye on them.

Also not being able to get programme info when two shows recording, only being able to record two shows at once, and that's only if your watching something you've already recorded.

Sky's ok, but it's not great.

I'd much rather have the TiVo functionality with sky's content.

BexTech 08-05-2013 22:24

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35569656)
I refer you to my signature.....;)

I have around 10 wishlists, and have around 16 series links, and make ad-hoc recordings around half a dozen times a week.

You obviously have issues, but you appear to be assuming, by your recent posts, a large majority of TiVo customers share your problems - if that were true, it is highly likely they would be voicing their concerns here, and that doesn't appear to be happening.

Whilst absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence, recent history has shown CF'ers are fairly vociferous in highlighting any issues they have...:D

There's enough of them complaining on social media sites.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
I've had a sky+ & Sky+ HD since they first come out, and when you series link shows, for no apparent reason, they stop recording the shows after a while, you have to keep an eye on them.

Also not being able to get programme info when two shows recording, only being able to record two shows at once, and that's only if your watching something you've already recorded.

Sky's ok, but it's not great.

I'd much rather have the TiVo functionality with sky's content.

Yeah, have had Sky+ too, and whilst agree only 2 tuners, I prefer the up-to-date EPG.

Tivo could be great if they just ironed out the few faults.

denphone 08-05-2013 22:26

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569666)
There's enough of them complaining on social media sites.

Any proof of that?.

BexTech 08-05-2013 22:59

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569671)
Any proof of that?.

LOL, Yeah, look on there!

:rolleyes:

You do know how to use the internet?

muppetman11 08-05-2013 23:02

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
I've had a sky+ & Sky+ HD since they first come out, and when you series link shows, for no apparent reason, they stop recording the shows after a while, you have to keep an eye on them.

Also not being able to get programme info when two shows recording, only being able to record two shows at once, and that's only if your watching something you've already recorded.

Sky's ok, but it's not great.

I'd much rather have the TiVo functionality with sky's content.

I can agree with some of your points however I'm afraid you must have an old Sky box if you can't get programme info when two recordings are in progress.

Hugh 08-05-2013 23:14

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569690)
LOL, Yeah, look on there!

:rolleyes:

You do know how to use the internet?

One of the commonly accepted tenets of polite debate is that if you state a proposition, you back it up with evidence - not ask others to find the evidence that you state exists....;)

ymmv

BexTech 08-05-2013 23:16

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35569692)
One of the commonly accepted tenets of polite debate is that if you state a proposition, you back it up with evidence - not ask others to find the evidence that you state exists....;)

ymmv

I've told them where it is, I'm not going to go through it all again, to copy and paste, got better things to do. It's all there plain to see!

I do have a live, no matter how limited it is.

Hugh 08-05-2013 23:20

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
You said 'social media sites' - generic, not specific.

Not very helpful, IMHO.

Sirius 08-05-2013 23:29

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569666)
There's enough of them complaining on social media sites.

Care to tell us which ones and even give us some examples ?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569693)
I've told them where it is, I'm not going to go through it all again, to copy and paste, got better things to do. It's all there plain to see!

I do have a live, no matter how limited it is.

Then if you are no willing to backup your accusations then i feel your posts cannot be taken at all seriously. when you can post real evidence not the evidence that is in your head we may take you seriously.

Pierre 08-05-2013 23:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35569691)
I can agree with some of your points however I'm afraid you must have an old Sky box if you can't get programme info when two recordings are in progress.

I've got a sky+ hd box and a, admittedly, older sky+ box.

That said I do like the simplicity of the older box.

GrimUpNorth 09-05-2013 09:51

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569644)
Shame Virgin make no use of the updates.

Still showing wrong details now.

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I'll try and remember to keep notes, got health problems at moment.

Thought you might have been pointing out some of the many daily errors by now. I live in hope, but bet my optimism will run out before your list arrives.

Cheers

Grim

BexTech 09-05-2013 10:58

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35569699)
Care to tell us which ones and even give us some examples ?

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Then if you are no willing to backup your accusations then i feel your posts cannot be taken at all seriously. when you can post real evidence not the evidence that is in your head we may take you seriously.

Evidence is right there in front of your eyes if people are not too lazy to look, I've told you were it is.

Some people! :rolleyes:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35569773)
Thought you might have been pointing out some of the many daily errors by now. I live in hope, but bet my optimism will run out before your list arrives.

Cheers

Grim

Give us a chance, won't know til it's recorded the bleeding programmes and then later play them back and find it's something completely different.

Sirius 09-05-2013 12:19

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569797)
Evidence is right there in front of your eyes if people are not too lazy to look, I've told you were it is.

Some people! :rolleyes:

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Give us a chance, won't know til it's recorded the bleeding programmes and then later play them back and find it's something completely different.

You said social media, that's a lot of possible sites but hey as YOU are the one that started all this i feel it should be YOU that would be the one to produce the evidence, I have indeed looked around the social media sites btw and can find NO posts or evidence on twitter or facebook that match your so called lots of post. Therefore as far as i am concerned there is NO evidence to backup your claim. Go on prove me wrong ;)

BTW just to show people what your "I told them where to look post was".

Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569666)
There's enough of them complaining on social media sites.

Wow great location description.

GrimUpNorth 09-05-2013 12:48

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569797)
Evidence is right there in front of your eyes if people are not too lazy to look, I've told you were it is.

Some people! :rolleyes:

So I've just done a google for 'Virgin Media Tivo Recording Problems' and there are no social media sites come up in the first 10 pages of results. I wouldn't say looking through 10 pages is lazy, unless you consider the VM help and support forum is a social media site. I think you've probably exaggerated your claims and are now feeling a bit daft having been caught out. It's no biggy to admit you're wrong - you'll get more respect here if you do admit it and stop trying to convince the long term users here that it's worse than it is. If you look back through my history (especially my discussions with a now banned person) there are things about the Tivo I'm not bothered about, but on the whole it's fit for purpose and does an adequate job.

Cheers

Grim

Sirius 09-05-2013 12:54

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35569807)
So I've just done a google for 'Virgin Media Tivo Recording Problems' and there are no social media sites come up in the first 10 pages of results. I wouldn't say looking through 10 pages is lazy, unless you consider the VM help and support forum is a social media site. I think you've probably exaggerated your claims and are now feeling a bit daft having been caught out. It's no biggy to admit you're wrong - you'll get more respect here if you do admit it and stop trying to convince the long term users here that it's worse than it is. If you look back through my history (especially my discussions with a now banned person) there are things about the Tivo I'm not bothered about, but on the whole it's fit for purpose and does an adequate job.

Cheers

Grim


If i am shown the sites with the issues being reported i can feed it back to those that need the info. I am not willing to report " its on social media sites to the network guys "

They will then say WHICH and WHERE. :rolleyes:

GrimUpNorth 09-05-2013 12:55

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35569808)
If i am shown the sites with the issues being reported i can feed it back to those that need the info. I am not willing to report " its on social media sites to the network guys "

They will then say WHICH and WHERE. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't hold your breath - or you'll need to change your avatar from green to blue!!

Cheers

Grim

Sirius 09-05-2013 13:02

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35569809)
I wouldn't hold your breath - or you'll need to change your avatar from green to blue!!

Cheers

Grim

Excellent :rofl:

Mick Fisher 09-05-2013 13:20

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
I've had a sky+ & Sky+ HD since they first come out, and when you series link shows, for no apparent reason, they stop recording the shows after a while, you have to keep an eye on them.

I have experienced the same especially following some firmware upgrades. I have, however, found these issues and others to be solved after performing a "Planner Rebuild". It's non-destructive and only takes a few minutes and so is worth a punt if your Sky+ PVR is misbehaving.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
Also not being able to get programme info when two shows recording,

Hmmm.. You are correct, however I have not noticed the issue since I started to, almost exclusively, use the Sky+ App on my iPad to program my Sky+ Box. Maybe the Sky+ App get around the problem by downloading program info from the Web rather than from the STB.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
only being able to record two shows at once, and that's only if your watching something you've already recorded.

Thanks to the many time shifted channels carried by Sky and the splendid clash manager in the Sky+ App I have not found the limitation of only 2 tuners to be a problem.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
Sky's ok, but it's not great.

When, for whatever reason, your VM reception is decidedly flaky, an ultra reliable Sky reception is great believe me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35569662)
I'd much rather have the TiVo functionality with sky's content.

I can't comment on that having never had experience of the VM Tivo. I will just say the in conjuction with the Sky+ App and Sky's Never Miss website the Sky+HD box does everything I need it too and in a highly responsive manner too.

BexTech 09-05-2013 17:02

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
http://www.facebook.com/virginmedia

Funny that, full of complaints there and that's just one place!

denphone 09-05-2013 17:13

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569973)
http://www.facebook.com/virginmedia

Funny that, full of complaints there and that's just one place!

The trouble with Facebook and Twitter it invites the malcontents who will moan about everything.

Sirius 09-05-2013 17:22

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech (Post 35569973)
http://www.facebook.com/virginmedia

Funny that, full of complaints there and that's just one place!

Funny but the stuff you are complaining about does not seem to figure much or am i looking at the wrong www.facebook.com/virginmedia

I suggest people go and look at that link he gave us and try and find the complaints about his issue ;)

If you have this issue all the time have you had engineers take a look at it, If so what have they said and if not fixed why have they said they cannot fix it ?????

joglynne 09-05-2013 17:43

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Maybe if Bex was to direct us to the date of a post that generated all the complaints on FaceBook it would make it easier to see what he is talking about.

Unfortunately you have to go into each item to see the comments and personally my time is too limited to search for the evidence he says is there.

I have, however, gone into a couple of posts and looked at the comments and although there are quite a few issues raised the VM staff seem to be doing a good job of sorting out the problems and are getting positive comments for having done so.

Sirius 09-05-2013 17:48

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35569994)
Maybe if Bex was to direct us to the date of a post that generated all the complaints on FaceBook it would make it easier to see what he is talking about.

Unfortunately you have to go into each item to see the comments and personally my time is too limited to search for the evidence he says is there.

I have, however, gone into a couple of posts and looked at the comments and although there are quite a few issues raised the VM staff seem to be doing a good job of sorting out the problems and are getting positive comments for having done so.

I fully agree :tu:

Media Boy UK 15-05-2013 13:25

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Liberty Global makes senior Virgin Media appointment

Quote:

Liberty Global has named the managing director of UPC Netherlands, Robert Dunn, as Virgin Media’s next chief finance officer.

The appointment is due to be made after Liberty completes its buyout of Virgin Media, which is due to happen by the end of the second quarter.
http://tbivision.com/news/2013/05/li...oinment/77441/

denphone 04-06-2013 13:44

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Strong appointed COO of Virgin Media.

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-virgin-media/

Chad 05-06-2013 00:37

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35579352)
Strong appointed COO of Virgin Media.

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-virgin-media/

The next 6 months will be interesting. I wonder if Virgins vision for TV will change dramatically. More emphasis on On Demand? More emphasis on HD? More emphasis on cost and value?

My SKY contract runs out in December so I'll be keeping my eyes and ears open as to Virgins TV intentions.

GrimUpNorth 05-06-2013 10:09

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
They're still hoping to have the merger done and dusted by close of play Friday, so only a couple of days left for the old girl now!!

Cheers

Grim

linwelin 05-06-2013 14:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Is this buyout a good thing for us the customers ? by that i mean are we going to see price changes ? and package changes, ie BB speed, more channels etc etc

denphone 05-06-2013 14:39

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by linwelin (Post 35579802)
Is this buyout a good thing for us the customers ? by that i mean are we going to see price changes ? and package changes, ie BB speed, more channels etc etc

Well the answer to that we will only know in the remaining months of this year and next year what entails for us customers but short term l don't think much will change.

spiderplant 05-06-2013 15:45

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by linwelin (Post 35579802)
are we going to see price changes ? and package changes, ie BB speed, more channels etc etc

It's business as usual. You'd have seen all those things anyway.

Media Boy UK 05-06-2013 15:57

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35579705)
They're still hoping to have the merger done and dusted by close of play Friday, so only a couple of days left for the old girl now!!

Cheers

Grim

Thanks for info.

News to me all I know before today was that deal will be close by end of June.

GrimUpNorth 05-06-2013 16:59

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35579851)
Thanks for info.

News to me all I know before today was that deal will be close by end of June.


Info here - bottom of page 2, top of page 3.

Cheers

Grim

Media Boy UK 05-06-2013 17:02

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35579905)
Info here - bottom of page 2, top of page 3.

Cheers

Grim

I have been looking up to find the story.

Found one from 'Hollywood Reporter' and have reposted it on my blog.

Horizon 07-06-2013 17:14

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
The new shares should be traded on Monday but no doubt Liberty will announce something before then if everything went smoothly at the shareholder meetings.

Takeover complete:

http://www.lgi.com/pdf/press-release...al-Release.pdf

---------- Post added at 16:14 ---------- Previous post was at 16:06 ----------

VM's investor page now showing Liberty logo and name:

http://investors.virginmedia.com/pho...&p=irol-irhome

Mr Banana 18-06-2013 10:21

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
They are now bidding for the largest operator in Germany - looks like world domination or at least european is the plan!

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/bl...o-bid-for.html

Mr Banana 21-06-2013 10:55

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Looks like Liberty do react to competition when needed.

UPC to launch broadband at 500Mbps this year

UPC is currently testing broadband services at up to 500Mbps. A commercial launch in the Netherlands is expected this year, said Mike Fries, CEO of parent company Liberty Global, on a conference call over Q1 results. Sister company Cablecom in Switzerland will also offer the 500Mbps service. UPC Netherlands recently increased its top speed to 200Mbps, in response to growing competition from FTTH services.

Horizon 24-06-2013 16:39

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35585327)
They are now bidding for the largest operator in Germany - looks like world domination or at least european is the plan!

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/bl...o-bid-for.html

Vodafone have piped Liberty to the post and it looks like they will grab Kabel Deutschland instead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23026955

It was muted earlier in the year that Vodafone would make a bid for Liberty eventually. As Vodafone and Liberty are both currently competing against each other buying up European cable companies, it would make sense if Vodafone bought up Liberty too.

denphone 28-06-2013 09:53

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Time Warner Cable Shares Surge on Report of Liberty Media Deal.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11964...edia-deal.html

Media Boy UK 01-07-2013 16:46

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Cindy Rose to leave Virgin Media

Virgin Media’s television boss Cindy Rose is to leave the company following its acquisition by Liberty Global.

Separately, Virgin Media has brought in Stephane David as executive director of content.

He is currently vice president of programming at Liberty Global and will now be heading up Virgin Media’s relationships with channel operators and content providers.

He joined Liberty Global in 2005 and previously worked at the Canal+ Group, in the Netherlands and Belgium.

However, Virgin Media stressed that this new role does not signal a move back into content business, which it left when it sold its content and channels arm to Sky in 2010.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/p...&contentID=870

denphone 01-07-2013 17:00

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
The lady who's mot famous comment was we will launch 100's of apps.

Qtx 01-07-2013 17:44

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35590977)
The lady who's mot famous comment was we will launch 100's of apps.

Considering her position, what she said was coming soon and what was actually delivered in her time there, could that be why she is out the door now?

I would guess the new guy will bring in some better negotiating skills for channels/content as VM have not really excelled themselves in that area in the recent past.

Horizon 01-07-2013 23:12

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
It seems Liberty are cementing their hold on VM. Before the takeover of VM, Liberty said it would be business as usual and there would be no changes. After the takeover, most of VM's senior execs are now gone and replaced with Liberty's own people, some of whom were originally directors in ntl and telewest, as was....

Plus, Malone, obviously hasn't given up on the US cable market either as that article suggests he would quite like to merge with Time Warner (fat chance) and other US cable cos.

Mr Banana 02-07-2013 07:22

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35591086)
It seems Liberty are cementing their hold on VM. Before the takeover of VM, Liberty said it would be business as usual and there would be no changes. After the takeover, most of VM's senior execs are now gone and replaced with Liberty's own people, some of whom were originally directors in ntl and telewest, as was....

Plus, Malone, obviously hasn't given up on the US cable market either as that article suggests he would quite like to merge with Time Warner (fat chance) and other US cable cos.

Its the norm though for the senior people to leave, if you look at the financials they all held enough stock to ensure they never need to work again

Who were originally directors at NTL/Telewest they have appointed though - I have followed these businesses for years and don't recognise any of the appointments?

To date they are

Tom Mockridge - ex News International
Robert Dunn - Liberty Global for last 13 years and before that he was at Impress Packaging Group
Dana Strong - Liberty Global for last 14 years and before that Austar in Australia
Stephane David - 8 years Liberty Global and before that Canal+

Pierre 02-07-2013 10:51

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35591086)
It seems Liberty are cementing their hold on VM. Before the takeover of VM, Liberty said it would be business as usual and there would be no changes. After the takeover, most of VM's senior execs are now gone and replaced with Liberty's own people, some of whom were originally directors in ntl and telewest, as was....

Plus, Malone, obviously hasn't given up on the US cable market either as that article suggests he would quite like to merge with Time Warner (fat chance) and other US cable cos.

There have been moves the other way too, just not announced.

On a technical and engineering level there have been people from VM, taken on an overall LG position.

Also there are no original NTL/Telewest directors returned that I know of.

Horizon 02-07-2013 12:51

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35591123)
Its the norm though for the senior people to leave, if you look at the financials they all held enough stock to ensure they never need to work again

Who were originally directors at NTL/Telewest they have appointed though - I have followed these businesses for years and don't recognise any of the appointments?

To date they are

Tom Mockridge - ex News International
Robert Dunn - Liberty Global for last 13 years and before that he was at Impress Packaging Group
Dana Strong - Liberty Global for last 14 years and before that Austar in Australia
Stephane David - 8 years Liberty Global and before that Canal+

To clarify, I meant directors/execs at Liberty (not VM) who were previously involved in uk cablecos. Bryan Hall, Liberty's current legal bod was VM's lawyer up until about a year ago. Charlie Bracken, I am almost 100% sure was a Telewest manager in the past and Rick Westerman (a yank) and one of Malone's people was involved in UK cableco in the distant past too.

Horizon 02-07-2013 15:49

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35591143)
Also there are no original NTL/Telewest directors returned that I know of.

Not any directors no, (some have died!) but there are some of Malone's people who were involved with Telewest and its predecessors are with Liberty.

denphone 08-08-2013 09:23

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Liberty chief sets out Virgin growth plans.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...059033.article


Quote:

Liberty Global founder John Malone has addressed rank-and file Virgin Media employees and Chellomedia content staff at a town hall meeting in London.


Malone, who rarely travels by plane, made a trip from the US to rally staff at the meeting and cement plans to grow the cable business over the next few years.

During an open question-and-answer session at the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre, Malone talked about his history in the UK – he was previously a shareholder in Telewest – and how the market has changed over the past 10 years.

Malone also talked through growth opportunities, particularly around innovations for Virgin Media’s television service and quad-play offer.

Liberty Global acquired Virgin Media in February for £10.2bn and Malone reiterated that the deal was designed to quickly add significant scale in Europe’s largest and most dynamic media market.

passingbat 08-08-2013 13:05

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607237)
Liberty chief sets out Virgin growth plans.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...059033.article


What we really want to know is what he said about the future (and hope he didn't use the word Horizon).

denphone 08-08-2013 13:07

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35607325)
What we really want to know is what he said about the future (and hope he didn't use the word Horizon).

Indeed but as usual its pretty vague.

spiderplant 08-08-2013 13:13

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607326)
Indeed but as usual its pretty vague.

Good. Do you really want them to tell their plans to the competition?

passingbat 08-08-2013 13:18

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35607327)
Good. Do you really want them to tell their plans to the competition?

Fair point.

denphone 08-08-2013 13:28

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35607327)
Good. Do you really want them to tell their plans to the competition?

But having plans are one thing SP but plans need to be acted on and not put in a dusty cupboard for a few years while your rivals make hay.:)

passingbat 08-08-2013 13:33

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607334)
But having plans are one thing SP but plans need to be acted on and not put in a dusty cupboard for a few years while your rivals make hay.:)


MRS springs to mind. A truly excellent USP wasted because non of the main viewing channels are on it. How long have we had MRS for now...?

Arthurgray50@blu 08-08-2013 19:16

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Well there won't be much growth, if they don't get BT Sport. They will lose customers.

Mr Banana 09-08-2013 03:37

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35607490)
Well there won't be much growth, if they don't get BT Sport. They will lose customers.

And continue to gain customers who are not interested in BT Sports, from what I hear people are not leaving in droves Arthur.

howardmicks 09-08-2013 08:24

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35607640)
And continue to gain customers who are not interested in BT Sports, from what I hear people are not leaving in droves Arthur.

Not yet ! Prem starts next Saturday lets see how many go then

denphone 09-08-2013 08:35

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35607652)
Not yet ! Prem starts next Saturday lets see how many go then

Indeed that will be the testing point for them Howard.

howardmicks 09-08-2013 10:54

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35607654)
Indeed that will be the testing point for them Howard.

Personally I hope a lot do they might get a move on if they don't.the usual will happen sit back on there laurels and give us nothing:(

Mr Banana 09-08-2013 13:37

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35607652)
Not yet ! Prem starts next Saturday lets see how many go then

Think it will arrive by then and in a way that will please a lot of people, however if not I still don't think people will leave in droves.

denphone 09-08-2013 13:46

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35607732)
Think it will arrive by then and in a way that will please a lot of people, however if not I still don't think people will leave in droves.

In other words you believe it will be on a certain package if it arrives TB?.:)

Jimi 12-08-2013 20:03

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35607640)
And continue to gain customers who are not interested in BT Sports, from what I hear people are not leaving in droves Arthur.

Four of my mates already packed in VM,one still holding on in the hope that all will come good on Saturday,me,I'm sticking with VM although I honestly thought we'd be getting BT even if,like my mate who works for VM says,there may a monthly charge of £2.50/£3.00.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-08-2013 20:45

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
IF, the BT Sports is not on VM by Saturday, l will be switching to Sky. VM cannot treat there customers with contempt. Yes, they might be holding out due to the stock exchange etc.

What they should be doing is trying to keep customers by telling them something.

denphone 12-08-2013 20:50

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35609002)
IF, the BT Sports is not on VM by Saturday, l will be switching to Sky. VM cannot treat there customers with contempt. Yes, they might be holding out due to the stock exchange etc.

What they should be doing is trying to keep customers by telling them something.

But Arthur did you not go to Sky before and then quickly came back to Virgin.:erm:

Stephen 12-08-2013 21:19

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35609002)
IF, the BT Sports is not on VM by Saturday, l will be switching to Sky. VM cannot treat there customers with contempt. Yes, they might be holding out due to the stock exchange etc.

What they should be doing is trying to keep customers by telling them something.

VM have been telling customers something. That they are in talks with BT about the channel.

denphone 08-05-2014 14:57

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
All3Media sold to Discovery and Liberty Global in deal worth £500m.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-global-deal

Quote:

Skins and Midsomer Murders maker All3Media has been sold to US media giants Discovery and Liberty Global in a deal thought to be worth more than £500m.


Discovery Communications, which last month pulled out of the Channel 5 auction, and Virgin Media-owner Liberty Global will be joint owners of All3Media.


The sale price is significantly less than the £750m-plus that All3Media had originally sought when it went up for sale in 2011.

1andrew1 08-05-2014 15:10

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 
Interesting! The other day I read a report on LG's results that included a quote saying they would not rule out a return to content if they found a suitable partner. They were obviously close to completing this deal when they said that and no doubt would have hoped to eb able to announce it along with their results.


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