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LondonRoad 07-04-2013 22:59

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35558260)
This old boy should explain the use of the SNP logo

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Actually have to praise your colleagues for yesterday Derek. The understated presence of the police went well with what was a peaceful protest.

I'm wondering why this thug wasn't arrested. Potentialy 3 offensive weapons in his possession. Those lips are the sort of lips that could easily form offensive sounding words and there's probably an offensive banner in that bag too. ;)

Derek 07-04-2013 23:02

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35558267)
I'm wondering why this thug wasn't arrested. Potentialy 3 offensive weapons in his possession. Those lips are the sort of lips that could easily form offensive sounding words and there's probably an offensive banner in that bag too. ;)

Not that I'm going to give my opinion on the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications Act 2012 on a public forum but don't go giving them ideas for the inevitable amendments.

Stephen 08-04-2013 09:52

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35558269)
Not that I'm going to give my opinion on the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications Act 2012 on a public forum but don't go giving them ideas for the inevitable amendments.

So you aren't willing to share your thoughts on that but you will make rather bigoted comments relating to Celtic and your hate for them as a Rangers 'supporter'?

Derek 08-04-2013 11:54

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35558329)
So you aren't willing to share your thoughts on that but you will make rather bigoted comments relating to Celtic and your hate for them as a Rangers 'supporter'?

I'd like you to show me where I've ever made a bigoted comment against celtic fans. Do I dislike their manager and certain sections of their support? Yes, and that's based on their actions and my experiences of them.

But hatred of an entire support based purely on my support for another team? That's just fantasy and absurd.

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Anyway back to reality and the absurd league reconstruction attempt looks doomed to failure with St. Mirren openly saying they will vote against it and Ross County going the same way.

Henkesghost 08-04-2013 14:21

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LondonRoad 08-04-2013 14:28

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35558428)

There doesn't seem to have been much condemnation of Chucky's racist remarks in the Scottish Mainstream Media. There is a surprise :rolleyes:

Henkesghost 08-04-2013 14:38

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Praying for home to Motherwell for 1st game after the split, mental if we are away from home 1st game.

LondonRoad 08-04-2013 14:45

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35558449)
Praying for home to Motherwell for 1st game after the split, mental if we are away from home 1st game.

I don't think any away ground can cope with the amount of jelly and ice cream to be consumed :D

Media Boy UK 09-04-2013 19:52

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SPL reveal final rounds of SPL Games.

Celtic can win SPL at home - playing Inverness CT.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...list-1-2885660

Henkesghost 13-04-2013 16:49

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Sounded like a cracker at Hampden today, well done Hibs. Hope it's an all Green final.

LondonRoad 14-04-2013 17:46

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35560403)
Sounded like a cracker at Hampden today, well done Hibs. Hope it's an all Green final.

All Green final it is :D

Another cracker of a semi-final today.

This armageddon for Scottish Football just keeps getting better and better:D

Henkesghost 14-04-2013 20:17

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Nerves too shattered to post, love you Celtic but you don't half put us through it at times :spin:

Chad 15-04-2013 01:33

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2 great Scottish Cup games for sure. Fantastic entertainment for TV fans. Sadly however over the 2 games there was a massive amount of empty seats. Is Hampdens capacity still down to about 42,000 due to the North Stand having upgrade work done?

22,410 attended Falkirk Vs. Hibs. What was todays attendance? I can't find the official figure anywhere.

Arthurgray50@blu 15-04-2013 13:29

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Being a big football fan, l always find it sad when l see Scottish football on Tv all the empty seats.

Even in the EPL and grounds in the championship etc, l find it sad when l see this. Could this be down to the pricing of getting into grounds ?

I am sure that you are aware that you can watch big games whether in England or Scotland on TV, cheaper than going into a ground.

Ie when l took my grandchildren to see Spurs play, we bought drinks outside the ground, BUT were stopped taking them into the ground - inside the ground a bottle of water was DOUBLE the price of outside, and a pie was double the price.

I went to Wembley with them and the cost of TWO HOTDOGS was nearly £25.00

And the cost of getting into a ground was extremely high, If l wanted to see a game at Spurs, for myself and two grandchildren was nearly £250.00

And yet these players are getting an absolute fortune, so who is ruining the game so that the supporter can afford to see there favourite team. I haven't been to Spurs for about TWO years, as it is cheaper to watch on TV, so with all the money clubs get from TV etc, they can surely reduce the cost of entry and fill those empty seats.

Henkesghost 15-04-2013 15:15

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No change in league formats by all accounts. Not sure that it matters tbh.:);)

Chad 15-04-2013 19:27

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35561134)
No change in league formats by all accounts. Not sure that it matters tbh.:);)

Agreed

Henkesghost 19-04-2013 19:51

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Henkesghost 19-04-2013 22:47

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Thanks to Motherwell and no thanks at all to the SPL we can win the title on Sunday! Bring it on!

Henkesghost 20-04-2013 19:22

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Henkesghost 21-04-2013 17:12

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Yaaaaaaaas !

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Champions again :D

Derek 21-04-2013 17:27

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35563389)
Tainted* Champions again :D

There you go. I've fixed that for you.

Congratulations on making a meal of winning a one horse race. :)

Henkesghost 21-04-2013 17:34

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Oh the pain lol. Who you gonna support when the zombies die? You were warned Deek :D It's happening again. The only thing tainted in Scotland is Sevco and Rangers before them, we all know it. Bye bye zombies.

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Derek 21-04-2013 17:47

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Thats funny I was sure one of the obsessed on this forum had confidently predicted that was going to happen months and months ago.

Remind me how that went?

While you are at it you can remind me how the tax case went. You know the one that one of the obsessed on this forum confidently predicted Rangers would be found guilty on all counts.

Remind me how that went again?

Enjoy your tainted title in a dying league. The most successful club in Scottish Football is still alive and will be for a long, long time. :D

Henkesghost 21-04-2013 17:57

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Away ye go ya clown

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

LondonRoad 21-04-2013 20:38

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Great day today. Took both daughters... 8 year old LR's first Celtic game.. not a bad one to pick.

Hail Hail and congratulations to Neil Lennon and the bhoys

denphone 21-04-2013 20:50

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35563490)
Great day today. Took both daughters... 8 year old LR's first Celtic game.. not a bad one to pick.

Hail Hail and congratulations to Neil Lennon and the bhoys

Well done to Celtic today and hey don't listen to the dismal Jonahs and Cassandras who are decrying your successes.

LondonRoad 21-04-2013 21:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35563494)
Well done to Celtic today and hey don't listen to the dismal Jonahs and Cassandras who are decrying your successes.

Don't worry Den - We don't. It's like listening to a broken record ;)

We have much to look forward to. Good management team. Sound business plan, (includes paying all taxes) and a young squad who have shown progress this year and gained European experience along the way.

We're also looking forward to a Glasgow Derby next season after Partick Thistle's success. Well done to the jags. :D

Henkesghost 21-04-2013 23:11

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Glad you all had a great day LR :) With any luck we can make it a double. Thanks for your words Den. Been a fantastic season and not the cake walk many predicted.

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Henkesghost 23-04-2013 20:58

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Cobbydaler 23-04-2013 21:08

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35563522)
Glad you all had a great day LR :) With any luck we can make it a double. Thanks for your words Den. Been a fantastic season and not the cake walk many predicted.

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Shouldn't that lowest banner be spelt 'HEED'? ;)

Henkesghost 24-04-2013 23:10

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Henkesghost 27-04-2013 19:41

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Well done Partick Thistle from the tumbleweed strewn wasteland that is the Cable Forum Scottish football thread.

Media Boy UK 29-04-2013 13:22

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Yesterday was the best day ever.

Only SEVEN more to go until 9 in the row (Wins over Celtic).:)

Henkesghost 29-04-2013 15:17

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35566270)
Yesterday was the best day ever.

Only SEVEN more to go until 9 in the row (Wins over Celtic).:)

Glad you enjoyed it MB, I didn't ;)

Cobbydaler 03-05-2013 20:37

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10 clubs consider breakaway from SFL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22404102

LondonRoad 04-05-2013 09:56

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35567943)
10 clubs consider breakaway from SFL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22404102

It looks like SPL 2 by the back door. Despite the protestations I'd be surprised if this wasn't a way of getting Sevco back to the top league quicker.

Sevco aren't selling season tickets yet because they don't know what league they'll be in next season?..... yet they've nothing to do with this..... Aye sure :rolleyes:

colin25 04-05-2013 10:29

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Maybe they won't invite the teddies :)

LondonRoad 04-05-2013 10:42

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35568053)
Maybe they won't invite the teddies :)

There might not be any teddies to invite once all the corruption comes further into the open. ;)

Media Boy UK 06-05-2013 13:42

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BBC News: Football fan dies after mid-match collapse

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A man has died in hospital after collapsing half-way through a Scottish Premier League match, police say.

The man, in his 50s, suffered a suspected heart attack five minutes into the second half of Kilmarnock's home match against Hibernian.

Paramedics and medical staff from both clubs treated the man until an ambulance arrived at Rugby Park stadium and he was taken to a nearby hospital.

Both managers agreed to abandon the match out of respect for the fan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22423362

Michael Higdon wins player of the year - when got arrested.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22425332

On-loan Hibs player Leigh Griffiths wins Young Player of the Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22424675

Queen of the South boss Allan Johnston has been named Scotland's Manager of the Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22423650

Media Boy UK 07-05-2013 15:53

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SPL Clubs agree change

At an all-club meeting earlier today at Hampden Park, the 12 Scottish Premier League clubs unanimously agreed on a package of measures that would deliver a merged league in time for season 2013/2014.

The principles include:

- a single merged league of 42 clubs, in line with the stated preference of SFL1 clubs
- a 12-10-10-10 divisional structure
- an all-through distribution model involving substantial redistribution to the second tier
- a ‘pyramid’ for the entire game
- play-offs involving team 11 in the SPL and teams 2, 3 and 4 in the division below

http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2291&back=home

Henkesghost 08-05-2013 09:20

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569009)
SPL Clubs agree change

At an all-club meeting earlier today at Hampden Park, the 12 Scottish Premier League clubs unanimously agreed on a package of measures that would deliver a merged league in time for season 2013/2014.

The principles include:

- a single merged league of 42 clubs, in line with the stated preference of SFL1 clubs
- a 12-10-10-10 divisional structure
- an all-through distribution model involving substantial redistribution to the second tier
- a ‘pyramid’ for the entire game
- play-offs involving team 11 in the SPL and teams 2, 3 and 4 in the division below

http://www.scotprem.com/content/defa...2291&back=home

We've got one half decent side in Scotland the rest are dung, no matter how many piles you put assorted dung in they are still dung in different sized dung piles. Playoffs will add something I suppose.

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 16:56

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Celtic Football Club@Ceticfc
Celtic FC can confirm that Everton FC has been in contact for the managerial position concerning Neil Lennon. The talks are on going (MH)

:( :( :(

Turns out its fake :) :)

Chad 09-05-2013 19:04

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35569967)
Celtic Football Club@Ceticfc
Celtic FC can confirm that Everton FC has been in contact for the managerial position concerning Neil Lennon. The talks are on going (MH)

:( :( :(

Turns out its fake :) :)

I'm going to listen to Clyde 1. There was a suggestion the other night on Clyde 1 that Everton would be interested in Lennon. Salary wise he'd fight into their tight budget.

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 20:26

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35570019)
I'm going to listen to Clyde 1. There was a suggestion the other night on Clyde 1 that Everton would be interested in Lennon. Salary wise he'd fight into their tight budget.

Tbh if Lenny was offered the job I think he should take it. Sadly can understand the lure of the top half of the Premiership :(

In saying that if I was looking for facts I certainly wouldn't listen to Clyde 1

Chad 09-05-2013 21:10

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35570061)
Tbh if Lenny was offered the job I think he should take it. Sadly can understand the lure of the top half of the Premiership :(

In saying that if I was looking for facts I certainly wouldn't listen to Clyde 1

When it was mentioned the other night the panel pretty much rubbished the suggestion. I was just interested to see if the point was raised again. The show however was pretty much a David Moyes love in this evening.

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 21:28

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35570081)
When it was mentioned the other night the panel pretty much rubbished the suggestion. I was just interested to see if the point was raised again. The show however was pretty much a David Moyes love in this evening.

Second favourite behind Martinez according to SSN

Chad 09-05-2013 23:17

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35570090)
Second favourite behind Martinez according to SSN

With Walter Smith, and then David Moyes, Everton have had Scottish managers since 1998!

I have a feeling Malky Mackay might be offered the job.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-05-2013 23:28

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I think if Lennon is offered the job, he would be a total idiot in turning the offer down, he would probably offered double what he earns at Celtic.

Celtic could always find another mug to take over the club, that doesn't have any comp now that Rangers are not in the same league.

Stephen 10-05-2013 00:28

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35570136)
I think if Lennon is offered the job, he would be a total idiot in turning the offer down, he would probably offered double what he earns at Celtic.

Celtic could always find another mug to take over the club, that doesn't have any comp now that Rangers are not in the same league.

Honestly don't think the salary would be that much better tbh.

Of course there is still plenty of competition. Think outside the league! Rangers isn't the be all and end all of the SPL or football.

colin25 10-05-2013 02:59

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35570157)
Honestly don't think the salary would be that much better tbh.

Of course there is still plenty of competition. Think outside the league! Rangers isn't the be all and end all of the SPL or football.

I think salary would be...but don't actually know (so speculation)

Celtic should stroll the spl, no real competition. The challenge for lennon would be to see if he can be successful in a real league like the EPL (though championship would be an equal challenge)

Chad 16-05-2013 19:39

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Hearts on the brink?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22560806

colin25 16-05-2013 20:18

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35572652)

Been there for awhile

Chad 17-05-2013 00:15

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35572669)
Been there for awhile

Very true yet they seem happy to push on with contract talks with Webster.

From what I can gather, even the SPL isn't 100% sure what this means and if it breaches their terms and conditions. The next 48 hours may shape the future of Hearts. Hearts in 1st Division next year is looking likely.

colin25 17-05-2013 06:35

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35572747)
Very true yet they seem happy to push on with contract talks with Webster.

From what I can gather, even the SPL isn't 100% sure what this means and if it breaches their terms and conditions. The next 48 hours may shape the future of Hearts. Hearts in 1st Division next year is looking likely.

Yes, Webster situation seems an odd one, as he is one of the higher paid players. Though I'm not sure he has been offered a contract yet

Henkesghost 20-05-2013 16:38

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No points deduction for Hearts, quite right too.

Media Boy UK 20-05-2013 16:45

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35573816)
No points deduction for Hearts, quite right too.

WW3 is about to start from that wee SFL 2 team from Glasgow.

colin25 20-05-2013 17:04

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35573817)
WW3 is about to start from that wee SFL 2 team from Glasgow.

They aren't in administration yet. Hearts will likely start next year with minus points.

Rangers were in administration (and other things)

Media Boy UK 20-05-2013 17:09

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35573821)
They aren't in administration yet. Hearts will likely start next year with minus points.

Rangers were in administration (and other things)

I know that. But you know the 'Rangers way of thinking'.:dunce:

Any Rangers fan or anyone who work for them will say 'That not fair'.

(Media Boy is an Motherwell fan).

Henkesghost 20-05-2013 21:24

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James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman 14m
Secret tape of #Celtic board discussing situation at Ibrox leaked. Understood to consist of 5 minutes of continuous laughter

Henkesghost 26-05-2013 11:29

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Chance of the double today, always a good way to end the season.

Stephen 26-05-2013 14:17

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Looking forward to the game. Will be watching in the Tollbooth pub :-)

Henkesghost 26-05-2013 19:47

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Yaaaaaas! Make ours a double

Henkesghost 29-05-2013 06:54

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Henkesghost 07-06-2013 22:21

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Henkesghost 10-06-2013 17:43

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxe...t#.UbXcT_nrx31

Amido Balde, striker in contract talks with Celtic today and looks like he scores headers :shocked:

Derek 13-06-2013 12:42

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Hearts, the club who have lived out with their means, brought the game into disrepute by not paying taxes and are insolvent pen a begging letter, fire sale notice and suicide note all in one.

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Due to recent unexpected circumstances away from Tynecastle, the club is now experiencing a shortfall in funding.This shortfall, due to recent uncertainty, has created a significant noticeable blockage in projected revenue streams for the club.

While this hesitation is understandable it is unwittingly damaging the club's current efforts to improve its financial situation including current payments to HMRC and raising doubts over future payments to players and staff.

It is now crucial to the football club that we find a solution to bring in enough finance to allow us to trade into the new season when normal trading can resume with the benefit of SPL and game-related income streams. The payments to HMRC and players/staff salaries are the most important issues in our focus these days where very limited time remains available to the club.

However given that the revenues for season tickets has dried up and no other realistic income is available quickly enough, the club will consider offers for the players of the current squad, including the most promising talent in order for the most necessary and important payments to be made. The board had planned to bring income in through the sale of players while considering the financial forecast for next season but now this will need to happen much earlier in order to preserve the business. We understand that this will lead to significant on-field pressure but at all times we must consider the health of the club and preserve it for future generations.

We will adjust our expectations for the new season accordingly but will still be focused on the playing side of the business. Our financial deficit can, in part, be attributed to our worst league finish in over 30 years last season. This had a significant direct impact on the business. Other factors that hit revenues include the absence of Rangers Football Club from the SPL and significantly increased stadium costs particularly in relation to the Main Stand.

The biggest threat to the club at present however is hesitation and inaction. We hope that those supporters who have purposely held off will reconsider and make the decision to back the club in the best way possible in order that we can meet our targets.
Meet the targets for next season? Pre-selling all the apartments in the Gorgie heights housing developments? Hitting a new record of winding up notices issued to one club? Most under-17 players in a first team during a game.

colin25 13-06-2013 15:13

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35583483)
Hearts, the club who have lived out with their means, brought the game into disrepute by not paying taxes and are insolvent pen a begging letter, fire sale notice and suicide note all in one.



Meet the targets for next season? Pre-selling all the apartments in the Gorgie heights housing developments? Hitting a new record of winding up notices issued to one club? Most under-17 players in a first team during a game.

Sounds like you are a sad rangers supporter.

Derek 13-06-2013 16:20

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35583525)
Sounds like you are a sad rangers supporter.

I'm a perfectly happy and cheerful supporter of the most successful football club in the world. :D

Can't see why hertz are in trouble, the fans were going to flood back to all the other teams when big, bad Rangers got sent to the 3rd division.

colin25 13-06-2013 16:34

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35583568)
I'm a perfectly happy and cheerful supporter of the most successful football club in the world. :D

Can't see why hertz are in trouble, the fans were going to flood back to all the other teams when big, bad Rangers got sent to the 3rd division.

Rangers, that would be the team that left lots of debt, started up as a newco, then claims it is the most successful club (wants to claim previous wins as continuous ) but still refuses to honour the debt it left

Oh, that Rangers :D

Derek 13-06-2013 16:50

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35583577)
Rangers, that would be the team that left lots of debt, started up as a newco, then claims it is the most successful club (wants to claim previous wins as continuous ) but still refuses to honour the debt it left

Oh, that Rangers :D

Yes the most successful club in the world who were stitched up by previous owners, the SPHell and paid all footballing debts. Also the same club that UEFA, FIFA, the ASA and everyone except the rhabids and fans of diddy teams accept is the same club.

Anyway embrace the future. Either see how green and white looks or save up for a bus ticket to Glasgow and you can come and see Rangers in all their magnificence. :)

colin25 13-06-2013 16:52

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35583585)
Yes the most successful club in the world who were stitched up by previous owners, the SPHell and paid all footballing debts. Also the same club that UEFA, FIFA, the ASA and everyone except the rhabids and fans of diddy teams accept is the same club.

Anyway embrace the future. Either see how green and white looks or save up for a bus ticket to Glasgow and you can come and see Rangers in all their magnificence. :)

lol..i will pass :D

Stephen 13-06-2013 17:46

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Lmao, same club.....hahaha, most successful.

You can't claim that the newco is still entitled to all the old trophies and then not pay off all the debt.

colin25 13-06-2013 17:52

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35583633)
Lmao, same club.....hahaha, most successful.

You can't claim that the newco is still entitled to all the old trophys and then not pay off all the debt.

I agree, having cake and eating it

Chad 13-06-2013 20:44

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35583633)
Lmao, same club.....hahaha, most successful.

You can't claim that the newco is still entitled to all the old trophies and then not pay off all the debt.

Same club apparently.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ccess.21317049

I bet all 78 complaints where from fans of the second most successful team :D

Derek 15-06-2013 00:31

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Anyway things aren't looking any better for Hearts.

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HEARTS have failed to pay “a number” of their players their July wages and therefore incurred an immediate transfer embargo, the Scottish Premier League has confirmed.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...paid-1-2967402

colin25 15-06-2013 09:02

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35584234)
Anyway things aren't looking any better for Hearts.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...paid-1-2967402

Not unexpected.

Fans will not want to buy tickets, while the future is so uncertain. But Club needs money over summer months.

And of course ownership of hearts is complicated (another country, uncertain owner)

Take the pain, receivership, whatever else comes, can't see anyone buying the club before they have to go into administration

Arthurgray50@blu 15-06-2013 13:39

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I don't know why football fans are talking about Scottish football, as it is finished - totally.

They are merging both SFL and SPL into one, and there were a few objections to this deal, the other clubs that will make any money from this are the bigger clubs.

They say that clubs will benefit from this - how. Play Celtic every week. Hearts are now in trouble, how many more are going to go down the plug hole.

Yes, TV money will go into the clubs, what club is going to more coverage than anyone else - Celtic as they draw the bigger crowd, plus Rangers.

Its about time that Sky, BT Sports poured money into Scottish football, BUT they will select games that will draw the bigger viewer.

If you imagine a few years ago you had to pay an extra sub to watch say Chelsea play Utd and then you would have Aberdeen play Inverness, who would get the bigger viewer - have a guess.

Scottish football is finished.

colin25 15-06-2013 13:44

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35584345)
I don't know why football fans are talking about Scottish football, as it is finished - totally.

They are merging both SFL and SPL into one, and there were a few objections to this deal, the other clubs that will make any money from this are the bigger clubs.

They say that clubs will benefit from this - how. Play Celtic every week. Hearts are now in trouble, how many more are going to go down the plug hole.

Yes, TV money will go into the clubs, what club is going to more coverage than anyone else - Celtic as they draw the bigger crowd, plus Rangers.

Its about time that Sky, BT Sports poured money into Scottish football, BUT they will select games that will draw the bigger viewer.

If you imagine a few years ago you had to pay an extra sub to watch say Chelsea play Utd and then you would have Aberdeen play Inverness, who would get the bigger viewer - have a guess.

Scottish football is finished.

Arthur, have you been living in a cave?

English clubs are equally going to the wall..some several times

The issue is the excessive wages some clubs try and pay to get success

Will some other clubs in Scotland be in trouble? Yes. Is it the death of Scottish football? No.

It just means clubs need to cut their cloth accordingly

Disappointing post by you

Chad 15-06-2013 14:19

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Here is an interesting situation. If Hearts do a Rangers, and go into liquidation, what then? After the SFA vote earlier this week, the 3rd division will no longer the bottom tier of Scottish football. Going forward we're going to have the Highland League and the Lowland League. These leagues could be in place by the end of this summer!

If Hearts go into liquidation between now and the end of this season they face a very, very long road back.

colin25 15-06-2013 14:27

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584362)
Here is an interesting situation. If Hearts do a Rangers, and go into liquidation, what then? After the SFA vote earlier this week, the 3rd division will no longer the bottom tier of Scottish football. Going forward we're going to have the Highland League and the Lowland League. These leagues could be in place by the end of this summer!

If Hearts go into liquidation between now and the end of this season they face a very, very long road back.

What is the rules?

Would they not just go to third division, and everyone else goes up one place?

Not sure they would be part of the lower leagues, actually, I would put money on it

Arthurgray50@blu 15-06-2013 15:15

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IF, anything the SPL and SFL should attempted to join forces with the EPL or EFL in an attempt to get financial assistance.

We all know that football clubs in English get far more money from Tv etc than there Scottish partners.

I think the biggest problem is this that for example, why doesn't and ENGLISH club sponsor a Scottish club on a trial basis and any player is groomed by that English club and goes to sign for an even bigger club, then they would get a percentage of his wage, to encourage that club to do more for the clubs in lower league.

for another another football fans know that Crewe, has a lot of players that go onto bigger things through the hard work done by Crewe, then that club should benefit through the whole of that players carreer - if you know what l mean.

colin25 15-06-2013 15:19

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35584388)
IF, anything the SPL and SFL should attempted to join forces with the EPL or EFL in an attempt to get financial assistance.

We all know that football clubs in English get far more money from Tv etc than there Scottish partners.

I think the biggest problem is this that for example, why doesn't and ENGLISH club sponsor a Scottish club on a trial basis and any player is groomed by that English club and goes to sign for an even bigger club, then they would get a percentage of his wage, to encourage that club to do more for the clubs in lower league.

for another another football fans know that Crewe, has a lot of players that go onto bigger things through the hard work done by Crewe, then that club should benefit through the whole of that players carreer - if you know what l mean.

Isn't that what happens when players transfer downsouth?

Arthurgray50@blu 15-06-2013 17:08

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No l think more should be done by these clubs to help each other out, the EPL is a billion pound industry, yet clubs from lower league and even in the Scottish league some clubs are playing in grounds that are not fit.

I used to ref game each weeks, but the ground were in very poor conditions, and some of the players l saw could really play PL stuff.

Derek 15-06-2013 17:14

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35584369)
What is the rules?

Well they aren't Rangers so don't expect their punishment to be anywhere near as harsh. :dozey:

Seriously one of the halfwits in charge of Scottish football, I forget which one, was asked the question of what would happen to Hearts if the worst happens to them and his response was basically "New setup, new rules. We will ask Mr Lawell what he wants us to do*"

*Maybe not the last part but you get the general idea.

Without a Glasgow, Edinburgh or even Dundee derby I would imagine any TV deal would be a hard sell. I can't imagine Sky getting out the extra large cheque book with space for all the zeros when your glamour derby is St. Mirren v Morton.
Expect rules to be made up to ensure Hearts stay in the top flight, assuming they are in a state to do so.

Henkesghost 15-06-2013 19:49

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35584448)
Well they aren't Rangers so don't expect their punishment to be anywhere near as harsh. :dozey:

http://thewallop.com/wp-content/uplo...12/05/yawn.png

Rangers weren't punished the went bust, get over it;)

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/0fc/dda...1329152042.jpg

Chad 16-06-2013 02:19

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Some crazy claims from Adam Virgo:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...player-1954029

Says he was dropped for a game to accommodate Du Wei so Celtic could make money from Chinese TV. Of course no proof whatsoever and a claim Celtic rightly deny.

“I received death threats on the phone and by post and, of course, the usual stuff from Rangers fans. For some reason footballers are expected to take that or in some way deserve it.” How does he know 100% this was from Rangers fans?

Sounds like he's looking for a new club, but going about it all the wrong way if he wants a move to Scotland.

colin25 16-06-2013 08:36

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584576)
Some crazy claims from Adam Virgo:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...player-1954029

Says he was dropped for a game to accommodate Du Wei so Celtic could make money from Chinese TV. Of course no proof whatsoever and a claim Celtic rightly deny.

“I received death threats on the phone and by post and, of course, the usual stuff from Rangers fans. For some reason footballers are expected to take that or in some way deserve it.” How does he know 100% this was from Rangers fans?

Sounds like he's looking for a new club, but going about it all the wrong way if he wants a move to Scotland.

Because that is the usual stuff from Rangers fans. A lot of them have lost all sense of reality

Derek 16-06-2013 08:59

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35584576)
Says he was dropped for a game to accommodate Du Wei so Celtic could make money from Chinese TV. Of course no proof whatsoever and a claim Celtic rightly deny.

“I received death threats on the phone and by post and, of course, the usual stuff from Rangers fans. For some reason footballers are expected to take that or in some way deserve it.” How does he know 100% this was from Rangers fans?

He doesn't but he will have been brainwashed that anything bad happening to celtic players must be the big bad Rangers fans. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't surprise me that celtic played Du Wei to try and earn some money, he certainly wasn't signed for his footballing ability. Maybe they played him in lieu of their mythical Japanese tour that they used as an excuse to shaft Rangers and refused to extend the season a few years back?

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35584482)
Rangers weren't punished the went bust, get over it;)

I see your grasp of history is green tinted as usual.

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Rangers were hit with the fine and player registration embargo after the SFA's independent judicial panel led by Lord Nimmo Smith found the club had brought the game into disrepute.

The SFA said the Ibrox club had been hit with the maximum £50,000 fine for going into administration, or "experiencing an insolvency event". It was also fined £10,000 for breaching the body's rules and the remaining £100,000 of the fine was in relation to breaching rule 66 by bringing the game into disrepute.
Still no news on Dunfermlines fine for going into administration or even the slightest hint of Hearts being accused of bringing the game into disrepute by consistent failures to pay taxes, players etc.

Maybe, just maybe they have realised dumping fines onto struggling teams isn't the best way to about things. :dunce:

colin25 16-06-2013 09:04

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35584598)
He doesn't but he will have been brainwashed that anything bad happening to celtic players must be the big bad Rangers fans. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't surprise me that celtic played Du Wei to try and earn some money, he certainly wasn't signed for his footballing ability. Maybe they played him in lieu of their mythical Japanese tour that they used as an excuse to shaft Rangers and refused to extend the season a few years back?

---------- Post added at 07:59 ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 ----------



I see your grasp of history is green tinted as usual.



Still no news on Dunfermlines fine for going into administration or even the slightest hint of Hearts being accused of bringing the game into disrepute by consistent failures to pay taxes, players etc.

Maybe, just maybe they have realised dumping fines onto struggling teams isn't the best way to about things. :dunce:

Rangers club motto should be "Bitter as always" :D

Henkesghost 16-06-2013 10:41

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My grasp of history is skewed?? So you saying Rangers did not liquidate then Deek? Wow, think the scary think is you've probably talked yourself into believing that.

Henkesghost 17-06-2013 18:04

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Hearts in Administration



http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...-today-1958653

Stephen 17-06-2013 18:33

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Well that article only states they are on the verge of administration and may be there by the end of the day. It doesn't confirm that the actually ARE in adminstration.

colin25 17-06-2013 18:37

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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ion.1371485073

Several articles out now

Chad 17-06-2013 18:53

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Things are looking really bad for Hearts. Whilst the whole squad is up for sale I'm sure many of the Hearts players who have not been paid on numerous occasions could just walk away now from their contract if they wanted to. Hearts have a transfer embargo and face starting the season with -15 points.

Surely the SPL can't allow a club in this state to actually start the season? Isn't their now due diligence measures in place? You'd have to say there is a very good chance that Hearts won't see out the full SPL season.

colin25 17-06-2013 19:03

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35585100)
Things are looking really bad for Hearts. Whilst the whole squad is up for sale I'm sure many of the Hearts players who have not been paid on numerous occasions could just walk away now from their contract if they wanted to. Hearts have a transfer embargo and face starting the season with -15 points.

Surely the SPL can't allow a club in this state to actually start the season? Isn't their now due diligence measures in place? You'd have to say there is a very good chance that Hearts won't see out the full SPL season.

I understand that this might help the buy-out. Problem before is that they didn't know who owns what.

Though it does put a question mark on the ground. Would make a good supermarket, given its position in centre of gorgie

Chad 17-06-2013 19:15

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585103)
I understand that this might help the buy-out. Problem before is that they didn't know who owns what.

Though it does put a question mark on the ground. Would make a good supermarket, given its position in centre of gorgie

The whole problem of who owns what, and who is or isn't insolvent might make this a nightmare.

I'm finding it really hard to see how this all ends positively for Hearts.

Guys like Andy Wesbter, Jamil Hamill, Ryan Stevenson and John Sutton would all be welcome through at Ibrox :D

colin25 17-06-2013 19:19

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35585110)
The whole problem of who owns what, and who is or isn't insolvent might make this a nightmare.

I'm finding it really hard to see how this all ends positively for Hearts.

Guys like Andy Wesbter, Jamil Hamill, Ryan Stevenson and John Sutton would all be welcome through at Ibrox :D

Happy for you to take them..albeit, you need to wait until your present signing ban ends :D

I have noticed the debt rising again at Ibrox...so won't be long before they go down again at this spending rate

Chad 17-06-2013 23:22

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35585112)
Happy for you to take them..albeit, you need to wait until your present signing ban ends :D

I have noticed the debt rising again at Ibrox...so won't be long before they go down again at this spending rate

A run in the Challenge Cup on BBC Alba will sort out any cash shortfall ;)

Media Boy UK 18-06-2013 15:44

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SFA: Scottish Lowland Football League clubs selected.

Twelve clubs have today been selected to compete in the new Scottish Lowland Football League from season 2013/14.

The successful clubs are: Spartans FC, Threave Rovers FC, Preston Athletic FC, Gretna FC (2008), Whitehill Welfare FC, Dalbeattie Star FC, East Kilbride FC, Selkirk FC, Gala Fairydean Rovers FC, Edinburgh City FC, University of Stirling FC and Vale of Leithen FC.

This decision will be ratified by the Board of the Scottish FA at its meeting on 27th June 2013.

The inaugural General Meeting of the Scottish Lowland Football League will be held on Monday 24th June, when board members will be selected and further detailed planning will commence.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...wsCategoryID=1

Henkesghost 18-06-2013 16:37

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35585422)
SFA: Scottish Lowland Football League clubs selected.

Twelve clubs have today been selected to compete in the new Scottish Lowland Football League from season 2013/14.

The successful clubs are: Spartans FC, Threave Rovers FC, Preston Athletic FC, Gretna FC (2008), Whitehill Welfare FC, Dalbeattie Star FC, East Kilbride FC, Selkirk FC, Gala Fairydean Rovers FC, Edinburgh City FC, University of Stirling FC and Vale of Leithen FC.

This decision will be ratified by the Board of the Scottish FA at its meeting on 27th June 2013.

The inaugural General Meeting of the Scottish Lowland Football League will be held on Monday 24th June, when board members will be selected and further detailed planning will commence.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...wsCategoryID=1

Will this be on ESPN? ;)


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