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We only have 3 destroyers (including only 1 type 45), and 4 typhoons in the area. Hardly a deterrent against a determined (local) military.

Mount Pleasant is only one area of the Falklands. So yes, we can defend one mountain...big deal.

I don't know what your military training is, but it certainly isn't military strategy.

If we want to really put Argentina off making a serious attack on the Falklands, then we need to boost our defences now, and not just have a token defence force there.

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You are continuing to insult British forces who sacrificed their lives last time.

Yes we have one type 45 there...that's all

I think you need to get your head out of the sand. Because that's when someone can come up behind you and kick you up the backside.

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Yet that mountain has the capability of landing more men, equipment..etc..

You seem though to have fallen asleep when the capabilities were explained to you earlier in this thread concerning the type 45 and the 4 typhoons a lot earlier in this thread..

You have to remember that the military has to get to the island first :rolleyes: or does logistics not count for an army of thousands????

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PMSL.. You join up, you go to a conflict zone then tell me what I'm doing..

I've in no way insulted any British forces and you're the only one who thinks so.. After you've done your length of service then you'll understand what I was saying concerning the skirmish..

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I know which analysis I consider to be more authoritative.

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We have 86 Typhoon's and in the long term 160, lets bring some of the other 82 (soon 156) typhoons to the Falklands!

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One of their para brigades was turned in to a special operations group with training in the US.. But they're more like our commandos than the SAS

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IMHO the Type 45 is man enough to look after the FI.

Some beach areas are only accessable by penguins due to the mines kindly left by the Argies, so that area I'ld say was safe from a sea invasion.

Dare I say that we have a number of subs patroling the areas outside the Type 45's reach, giving it early warning should the need arise.

I just think we should moon at the argies from the west coast saying "come on if you think you are hard enough".

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Logistically not an easy task with the numbers of aircraft need to do in-flight re-fueling.

So dare I say unless something major happens I doubt this would happen.

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Yes I know the capabilities. But you must have been asleep when a sustained attack was talked about. Even a type 45 can't defend the whole of the falklands at once, and can't defend against large numbers of incomming missiles and torpedos at once. And the type 45 would be Argentina's number 1 target to take out first. As for the typhoons, we only have 4 of them there. How many air to air missiles can they carry? Not enopugh to shoot down a large number of fighters, no matter how outdated they are.

Don't you think that Argentina don't know that they have a huge disadvantage as far as technology goes. So any militart strategist will simply change their strategy using a massive attack on buth the type 45 and the typhoons. Once they have gone, then they can walk straight into the Falklands.

The last war lasted a year, with 100's of casualties. That is not a Skirmish!! Like I say, I know people who fought there last time. And I know many people who have fought on the front line more recently. And I can tell you for a fact that your comments would insult them all.

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Well that is what covert special forces do. And the truth is that we don't know if they have them.

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It's only a deterrent force, that would mean that Argentina would have to launch a large scale attack.

At the end of the day, it all depends on if they consider their forces as cannon fodder or not. Some countries do.

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I think they might increase defence spending in responce to this, maybe then they will buy the Dassult Rafale (the French Rival to the Eurofighter)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale

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Most of that data is from 2011. And some from 2012. Not out of date by much.

It's your data that seems to be very wrong.

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You don't seem to realise the role a type45 will play and also the hidden assets..

Here's one scenario for you

Outside of the argie ports sits a couple of our subs, they deal with either via torpedo or cruise missile any surface ships daring to leave the ports.. The type 45 sits on the west of the island providing air/surface cover for anything wanting to take the direct approach. 4 typhoons provide top cover for anything stupid enough to come round the long routes, mount pleasant and surrounding area covered by rapier and ground defenses. North/South/East seaways covered by typhoons and or any marauding subs we have out there..

I never said we could stop a landing but by the time they get there and land with any force they'd have a hell of a lot of casualties, little logistical support and we'd have reinforcements approaching from the air via Ascension Island.

Or do you think that the argies will be able to get in their paddle boats go directly to the island and land unopposed.. the costs to the argentines would hopefully negate them even trying.. and the leaders would go the way of the last Junta that tried..

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It's funny, but everyone I know who has actually ben on the front line, being shot at (unlike weapons techs), considers it a war.

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So now you're saying that techs can never be front line :rofl: You accuse me of insulting those that served in the falklands conflict and now you're insulting half of the UK armed forces :rofl:

You honestly have no idea do you :nono:

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CF posters, please, we are not having a war between each other!

If we are having a war, it is with Argentina (which they started)

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War is always repugnant but so can the human race at times. Is it only worth fighting when oil is about or yet to be discovered.

Should we not send certain Argentinean Football players back home for bringing the premier league into dispute with different issues (conspiracy theory).

Argentina has asked other countries to refuse Falkland vessels safe harborage and trade (now a certain cruise line has been refused).

We shall have to make or own corned beef from now on.

Would it not make sense to make the Falklands an independent country (UN recognized)... but any country offering trade and the like would be welcome.

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This wouldn't be a war - only religion causes wars, remember. It's never over land, greed, politics etc :rolleyes: :D

I can't see this being due to the Argies really wanting the islands.

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I expect that a rather large amount of submarine launched TLAMs heading for Buenos Aires would make them think twice about attempting to back-up their hot air and rhetoric.

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Can we start with Carlos Tevez? :D

We could make the Falkland’s Independent (via a referendum). But it still require its defence and Foreign affairs to be run by the UK, like the USA does with members of The Compact of Free Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact...ee_Association

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You're really just making this up as you go along, aren't you ... :scratch:

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By front line I'm talking about going out on patrol, and getting shot at.

Anyway this is getting off topic.

You have to remember Kymmy, that this is a forum, where people are entitled to their own opinion. Just because you have a military background does not mean that you are the only person who could be right. It is just your opinion.

My opinion is that in order to be certain that Argentina won't try anything, we need aircraft carriers out there, as well as a bigger defence force. And it is my opinion that this will prevent loss of life.

One thing we don't know for sure, is how desperate the the Argentine government are to try and do something to win over public opinion. At the moment they are getting the public worked up on the issue. My personal opinion is that she is just sabre rattling to make it appear to the public that she is doing something, and to win the public over....but we really don't know for sure.

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It's over oil more than anything else. This is why USA won't back us, because they want to use their technology for oil exploration, and strike a deal with Argentina.

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I thought the Falklands war lasted 2 months? :confused:

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Chris, I thought you were more intelligent than that!! You know exactly what I was saying without picking bits out of different posts, and trying to use them to insult someone.

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Yep, it seems to be around the time of potential oil discovery that they ignited their "claims" again over the Falklands.

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Or of course (providing that is the case, which I doubt), they could just side with their little poodle Great Britain and get a better deal.

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It was actually about three months. I just think of it as being a year because I was at my grandparents near Bognor Regis in the summer holidays one year, as the task force was being prepared to set sail. And I was there a year later as they were coming back.

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Apart from the fact that the UK will give BP the rights, rather than American companies. And the UK will get the revenue.

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All military personnel have military field training. As for techs there's a lot of front line trades.. My own service (weapons tech specialising in ordnance disposal) includes front line experience within a major conflict and yes I have been shot at.. :mad: You seem to know very little with your so called experience dug up from wikipedia and various other sites.

As for forum opinions yes you have a right to your own opinion but that doesn't mean your opinion is correct.. I'm sure that you'd no sooner have a moan if I were to sprout wiki data on beds and mattresses as though I had experience on the matter.

:td::td::td::td::td::td:

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And of course, the largest division of BP is BP America....

btw, you don't have to be infantry to be shot at - I was in RAF Signal Intelligence, and I came under fire a couple of times (and not by my own side...;)).

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I hope it hasn't been 'engineered' to turn our livestock against us in the cause of Las Islas Malvinas. Trojan sheep.... :D

As for BP, it will do what suits its shareholders the majority of which are US and UK pension funds and other institutional investors IIRC.

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It also doesn't mean that you are correct. But all you have done is try to shoot down anyone else with a different opinion to you.

My opinion is simply looking at the wider picture. Your opinion appears to me to be very narrow, and only considering that due to our superior technology, that we are invincible.

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Reminds me of the girl who got her sterling stuck on full auto so threw it away.. We all dived for cover.. So I've also been shot at by our own people :rofl:

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tbf, we've all been there - mine was a WO whose Browning jammed, so he was waving it about to demonstrate the jam, until it went off and shot himself in the foot....:D

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I should think that the UK government would give the rights to the UK part of BP...I think they should remind people that it is called British Petroleum. ;)

Not even by the Americans?? :D

The point I was actually making was the insulting comment to British Servicemen who fought in the Falklands War.

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I have no intention of insulting anyone. I really do think you're firing from the hip without thorough research or the benefit of experience of the subject. Your view of whether HM Forces are adequate as a deterrent force has shifted from 'no and a determined assault could ovcome them' to 'yes but that means Argentina would have to make a big assault using troops as cannon fodder'. These are two quite different positions.

You also stated - without equivocation - that the original conflict lasted a year, only qualifying that statement as being a childhood memory when you were called out on it. I'm sorry, but as an excuse for a basic factual error that's lame.

I think you've gone out on a limb on this one, claimed statements as fact that are beyond your knowledge or experience to back up and are resorting to trying to play down the comments of people who actually do have first-hand experience of these matters by claiming the experience of friends or family as your own.

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Americans??? :D

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Give it a rest Chris...it's not as if reporters get it 100% right all the time...and yes that is including reporters for local rags.

I made a mistake about the length of the war, because it was based on what I remember from 30 years ago. And I put my hands up to that, we all make mistakes. But unlike you, I haven't used the typical reporter tactic of twisting peoples words around to mean something different. You knew exactly what both of my comments that you quoted actually mean. And I'n not going to get drawn into a petty squabble about actual meaning of words.

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Oh dear....maybe the argies do stand a chance :D

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I've not used the word invincible, nor have a said that a victory is guaranteed.. What I have said is that the technology is the biggest advantage that anyone could have within the armed forces. It'll enhance an armies ability to defend, attack and is also the biggest deterrent that we have.

Now that you've attempted to put words in my mouth and failed whilst trying to defend your viewpoint I wonder if you'll finally realise that in a war no-one is right, these are purely opinions and you can't just include the size of the army or the closeness of the force in this discussion without considering the whole picture..

Argentine would be stupid to try to send in an attack, there's no way they could sneak in like last time and to get a major invasion force would be catastrophic for them when they attempt to deploy to the islands. The subs alone would have a field day never mind the type 45 and the typhoons.. It's not a case of when the 2nd conflict starts, it's more a case of are the argies willing to lose a lot more than they did in 1982 and still probably end up with no islands. I can also see attacks directly on military infrastructure on the mainland by TLAMs and the argies know that and also know that they can't defend against that. Argies have a lot to lose a lot more than us.

I'll say one thing Tim, you sure do make me laugh :rofl:

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Another old rerporter's epithet is never let the facts get in the way of a good story. It's not one I lived by personally, but wasn't I saying only a moment ago how you liked to claim the experience of friends and family as your own.

I think if you're going to wade into a discussion as detailed and long-lasting as this particular thread, you owe it to yourself to rely on a little more than childhood memories. Your mis-remembering of the basic fact of the length of the war would have been immediately corrected had you gone no further than the Wikipedia entry for the 1982 conflict.

For you to make grand statements about how ex-service personnel in this thread are insulting the memories of soldiers who died is utterly pitiful given that you are prepared to advance arguments about the detail of the current situation without even the basic courtesy of trying to get your facts straight.

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It's what you haven't said that speaks loudest.

You are now saying So why are you arguing against me? What I have been saying all along is that we could do with the aircraft carriers back, and we should boost our defences. Now that is just common sense in anyones book, if victory isn't guaranteed with the current status. Because a deterrent is only 100% effective if it puts the enemy in the mind that there is no way they could win.

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You don't have any idea about where I get my information from, except when I quote sources.

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Yet again you assume and get it all wrong :rolleyes:

I'm not arguing instead just giving my all over viewpoint based on what I've experienced and sourced..

Why do you always want black and white? Do you think that the only outcome of a battle is either win or lose? Your viewpoint is extremely limited and deployment of more resources to the Falklands would cost this country millions for a war that might never materialise.. Do you think that this is the first time that the argies have reinforced their claim to the islands since the falklands conflict, you didn't see us panicking in '94 when the argies reaffirmed their commitment to the islands and added it to their constitution.

Also why do you have seem to have no confidence in the ability of our current forces within the area? You have very simplistic views based on the chance of a lucky strike against a type 45, if that was some ones view on life then they'd never go out of their house in case they were mugged or hit crossing the road.

This whole thing is about the argentinian politicians realising that there's resources that they can grab to make themselves rich, it's nothing about their claim to the islands just what treasures they can lay claim to and even they are not stupid enough to go to war over that.

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You are yet again proving how argumentative you are:

You don't actually read my posts at all. You always have to plan for the worst case scenario, because if you don't, and it happens, then you are in deep trouble. If the worst case scenario doesn't happen, then what have we lost?

As a weapons tech you should know that faults do happen on occasion. Just like on the fly on the wall documentary I watched where the Navy were showing off their defence system in an excercise, and the whole radar system suddenly died. If it had been a real situation then the ship would have been a sitting duck.

It may cost millions to send more forces to the Falklands, but it could cost a lot more if they don't. British forces are deployed all over the world, so they aren't exactly sat around on the barracks in the UK are they? So does it really cost any more to send some to the Falklands than it does to send them anywhere else in the world?

I do have confidence in our ability, but any good strategist should also have a 'what if?' plan. With only one type 45 in the area, there is no 'what if' plan. If it is taken out by 'a lucky shot', malfunction, or even a weapon that we didn't realise they had, then we are stuffed. I am personally expected to make decisions that could make the difference between life and death for both my crews, and the public. I wouldn't be very good at my job if I didn't also have backup plans in case situations changed. This is no different to the military.

The Navy has 99 ships. Now I don't know what type they all are, or what they are best used for. But many of them are sailing around the world's oceans at any one time. So you would think that a few more could divert to the Falklands on their route, maybe each staying in the area for a while.

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Has it not occured to you that the reason the Argentines have gone the route of bad mouthing us here, there and everywhere, is because they realise that the measures we already have in place are more than adequte to the task?

Increasing troop numbers, planes and ships in the area would not only cost us a hell of a lot more money, but would also demonstrate to the rest of the world that Argentina's claim that we were militarising the area, was in fact accurate after all.

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Read previous posts. All this has been discussed.

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In a hap-hazard way.

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The cheek of them! I'm definately going to boycott all of their goods!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17200528

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A Type 45 being surprised by the Argentinian military... lol. The whole reason the HMS Daring is there is because it far eclipses anything Argentina could throw back at us. Infact, the Daring on it's own and maybe a sub for support could pretty much keep the Falklands secure through as to ward off any strike.

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It's almost comical, it amazes me how stupid people can be in such positions of high power and STAY in power.

I can only assume it's something to do with the oil that might lie around the island group.

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Argentina can do nothing but throw empty threat's. Britain need not send anything to the Falklands as I doubt Argentina have the balls to go up against the United Kingdom in any military way.

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Mate of mine has just returned from 3 weeks in Argentina. I asked him what was the word on the street concerning the Falklands & his words were "They dont give a toss about it, its all political"
So how far would the Argies go? Its all posturing!

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Argentina pursuing policy of confrontation, says No 10

Linkage HERE

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Don't forget Shell!

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We need to spend more on defence, so that we will be ready to face Argentina (for public opnion or oil)

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Do you mean Royal Dutch Shell, whose HQ is at the Hague, Netherlands?

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CFK to reopen BA-Falklands route

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/art...mzlAWw.twitter

Hmm.. I wonder what her game is with this? :erm:

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Could prove entertaining, watching the Argentine pilots trying to land their planes somewhere that doesn't exist :D

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If that happens i would screen/vet any argie passengers

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By the sound of it they want control as to who goes to/from the island.. :(

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Their a UK/Dutch company with a primary listing in the LSE and a secondary listing in the Euronext Amsterdam and NYSE, it is based both in London and The Hague

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dutch_Shell

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Maybe it is part of the invasion plan! :D

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:rolleyes:

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Perhaps not...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35389938-post399.html

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I think you have hit the nail on the head there Kymmy.

I presume LAN is an Argentinian owned airline? Otherwise how would they have so much control over them?

http://www.falklandislands.com/conte...ng-here-by-air

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The level of control Argentina seeks to exert isn't just down to the nationality of the carrier - it's also due to flights from Chile have to over-fly Argentine airspace, effectively giving Argentina a veto over the other flights anyway.

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LAN is the national carrier of Chile, but they own a subsidiery airline (LAN Argentina) in Argentina, LAN in turn are owned by LATAM (A company based in Brazil and Chile) who is a member of OneWorld (Slong with British Airways!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAN_Airlines

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Thanks Chris. I actually thought of that after I posted.

It's good that you give plain and simple answers, rather than trying to look more knowledgable by using Wikipedia ;)

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:p:

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Well my Argentinian friend of 20 years says that it's all down to wanting to hide their corruption using nationalism.

I trust his viewpoint because he a physics professor who studied in the US and has travelled the world a lot more than the average Argentinian.He says nothing will come of it.:)

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I tend to agree. I expect the vast majority of Argentinians are far more worried about the state of the economy and their lives than all this politically motivated hype. Of course the usual suspects and rent a mob crowd will gain plenty of media time as they burn Union Jacks...

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and thank God for that, flag making is one of their only growth industries.

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And I think your friend is probably right. The worrying thing is that is exactly what the military government was trying to do in the 80's.

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Another ranting idiot

By then bugger off the Argentina then. :mad:

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16180860

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Yes well it seems that not all the ranting rhetoric jingoism is coming from the Argentine side.:rolleyes:

I think we should take it a little less personally and see it as just hot air in an election year for Argentina.Like ignoring those that irritate in a public forum.;)

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Actors and musicians should stick to what they do best, and stay out of politics.

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Does Waters suggest what should be done about the small matter of the people who've actually lived there for generations and want to remain British?

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Yes I wonder what reason Mr Waters might have for taking advantage of the current situation to aim a cheap publicity shot.

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Of course not. It is just a publicity stunt for a has been.

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Publicity stunt, probably.

Has-been - not in my opinion...

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Is it possible for us to return the falklands as Waters suggests if Argentina have never actually owned them officially

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How France helped both sides in the Falklands War


Linkage HERE

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That was talked about earlier in the thread. MI5 were trying to buy up the worlds stocks of exocet missiles to try and stop Argentina getting them.

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and France helped us buy them up IIRC...

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Wasn't that only after Maggy made threats to use nukes?

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Don't think so, IIRC they sort of shamed themselves into helping, looks bad failing to support another European power and ally against some tin pot South American junta.

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I'm sure the story was in a link somewhere in this thread. But it would take ages to find with so many pages.

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Found it:

http://blogcritics.org/books/article...entina-during/

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Oh right never heard that before, sure I do recall the French buying back large numbers of missiles on the open market or canceling orders to help us out though as well.

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I did no such thing..:p:

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There were quite a lot of threats issued by the UK to france and that was the only reason they started to buy back and cancel orders also i believe the US discussed serious political consequences if france didn't cease trading missile tech to argentina. France didn't do a damn thing because it was the right thing to do they only did the right thing when it became in their national interest to do it not exactly what i would call a good ally at all but then my history with the french military does make me extremely biased where they are concerned.

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Slapped legs more your thing eh? :D

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Former Defence Secretary Sir John Nott disagrees with you

At the start of the conflict, France's left-leaning president, Francois Mitterrand, had come to Britain's aid by declaring an embargo on French arms sales and assistance to Argentina.

He also allowed the Falklands-bound British fleet to use French port facilities in West Africa, as well as providing London with detailed information about planes and weaponry his country had sold to Buenos Aires.

Paris also co-operated with extensive British efforts to stop Argentina acquiring any more Exocets on the world's arms market.

From Digital Fanatic's link at the top of the page

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...ands-argentina

Man opens his gob again

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Roger Waters really is just a tired old Lefty, isn't he. You gotta love the leftie way he's so desperate to have a pop at Thatcher that he accidentally redefines Galtieri from 'military dictator' to 'political leader'.

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Well they are 100% with us on the Falklands! (Along with the USA and the Commonwealth)!

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PMSL.. you actually think that France, US and commonwealth could give a crap..

The only interest you'll get from them is when oil goes for sale

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Yes, but they will not be helping Argentina, anyway it is minor UK oil companies that are benfiting from this!

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In case nobody has told you Alan, the current oil reserves are running out. So these oil fields are of huge interest to any country that can stake a claim.

Which oil companies are you referring to as minor?

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Desire Petroleum (AIM Listed), Rockhopper Exploration (AIM Listed) and Falkland Oil and Gas (AIM Listed), they are all looking for oil in the Falklands!

If there is a lot of oil, expect a takeove of those companies by "Big Oil" corporations!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Oil_and_Gas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockhopper_Exploration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_Petroleum

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Exactly, which is why Obama isn't backing us.

Have you never watched the program on Discovery about oil riggers in the USA? They are all smaller cpmpanies who do the exploration and drilling. Although I should think that in this case BP will most likely step in with money and resources.

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I think they will find it a good investment!

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Good article in The Guardian this morning:

Will no one listen to us Falkland Islanders?
Well-meaning actors and musicians have overlooked the legal right of a people to determine their own future

Linkage HERE

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Would it be the World Court then, it bet the laywers will be pleased :D

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From the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/wo...nt&tntemail1=y

Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising
 

I saw a programme on Channel 5 about the war and It made clear we both made mistakes, but UK made less then Argentina, but there were problems for the UK then and now

Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nvade-now.html

http://about.channel5.com/node/1551

Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising
 

Typical outdated armed forces singular viewpoint of their own service is better than the rest and because of that the rest could never do the same as they've done before.. :rolleyes: