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jb66 25-09-2011 20:14

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I have the option

Peter_ 25-09-2011 20:26

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305053)
I have the option

But you do not have the device.:D

thenry 25-09-2011 20:38

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305053)
I have the option

of course you do but why be smug about it? your not giving the company any more of a good rep than its already getting. its a business, theres rules in place we get it but again!! could any vm employee tell us if or why the firmware isn't being upgraded as we speak? excuse us customers for being a little frustrated after reading comments on the community forum from staff members saying their going to take a little break before upgrading the firmware further. isn't that what their suppose to be doing to build a new bridge seeing as the existing bridge hasn't fallen? if the firmwares improved and the devices work to a standard where customers are happy you wouldn't have an issue with "i want that one"

BenMcr 25-09-2011 20:46

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There is a big difference between updating the firmware to resolve any identified issues, and updating the firmware to include new features.

thenry 25-09-2011 20:50

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305080)
There is a big difference between updating the firmware to resolve any identified issues, and updating the firmware to include new features.

Whats your point? issues were flagged from day 1 and took ages to rectify. What I'm saying is whats done is done now move forward by means of improving the firmware as a whole; improve features and add features.

jb66 25-09-2011 20:54

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305074)
of course you do but why be smug about it? your not giving the company any more of a good rep than its already getting. its a business, theres rules in place we get it but again!! could any vm employee tell us if or why the firmware isn't being upgraded as we speak? excuse us customers for being a little frustrated after reading comments on the community forum from staff members saying their going to take a little break before upgrading the firmware further. isn't that what their suppose to be doing to build a new bridge seeing as the existing bridge hasn't fallen? if the firmwares improved and the devices work to a standard where customers are happy you wouldn't have an issue with "i want that one"

Your boring me now, yawn

Sephiroth 25-09-2011 20:57

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305085)
Your boring me now, yawn

Don't be so rude, jb.

BenMcr 25-09-2011 20:57

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305083)
Whats your point? issues were flagged from day 1 and took ages to rectify. What I'm saying is whats done is done now move forward by means of improving the firmware as a whole; improve features and add features.

Who says they aren't moving forward? Just because they aren't immediately going to release another beta firmware doesn't mean they aren't looking at what features they can do and how best to proceed.

thenry 25-09-2011 21:12

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305085)
Your boring me now, yawn

brilliant response from a vm employee to a customer supporting the company and wanting them to move forward rather than be left behind.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305089)
Who says they aren't moving forward? Just because they aren't immediately going to release another beta firmware doesn't mean they aren't looking at what features they can do and how best to proceed.

a staff member on the community forum Ben. i don't mean another beta test for customers to take part in. all i'm saying is vm acknowledging the need to improve the firmware not just to recoupe rep but to avoid the hassle with customers wanting this this model or that. can't they just go ahead and kill 2 birds with 1 stone? my responses are purely down to my doubt that their actually doing anything at the moment. whats the harm in those in charge saying we want to monitor things for a period of time no more than needed and then getting onto improving the firmware?

"we're going to take a little break" is so out of touch with whats gone on.

BenMcr 25-09-2011 21:18

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I point you to the public statement Virgin have made here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...te_modem_mode/

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A Virgin Media spokesman told us that there "will be further updates if issues still persist, as well as additional new features depending on what customers request and what will be possible"
So that say to me that Virgin will continue to work on further updates to the SuperHub.

thenry 25-09-2011 21:24

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Mark Wilkins said the same on the forum.. we already know that. its the fact a staff member obviously in the know on the forum has mentioned having a little break like they have just cured cancer. its pathetic especially with whats now happening with regards to different manufacturers building and supplying the superhubs all of which have been flagged in this thread to be different in some shape or form.

BenMcr 25-09-2011 21:31

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305109)
Mark Wilkins said the same on the forum.. we already know that. its the fact a staff member obviously in the know on the forum has mentioned having a little break like they have just cured cancer. its pathetic especially with whats now happening with regards to different manufacturers building and supplying the superhubs all of which have been flagged in this thread to be different in some shape or form.

Everything thats been 'flagged' in this forum about the other SuperHub is speculation. Nobody has had it installed, so no-one here can say for certain how it performs or what features it does or doesn't have

KenK 25-09-2011 21:40

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35304659)
can i ask why Ciscos, the daddy isn't dealing with the firmware?

Purely speculation: they don't want to. Why would Cisco work on firmware for some other manufacturers' equipment? :confused:

HuaweiHank 25-09-2011 21:45

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35305020)
Who'da thunk that a guy who works as a 1st line tech and another who works in a completely different business unit in a non-related position wouldn't be totally informed as to the minutae of upcoming CPE.

Perhaps everyone apart from the "guy who works as a 1st line tech and another who works in a completely different business unit" already understands that. But those two keep insisting that they are fully informed? For example:

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35305050)
I know more about this device than you ever will though and strangely that is a 100% fact because I have access to our intranet.:rolleyes:

So the Virginmedia intranet is 100% up to date and accurate?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35304946)
The current Netgear Hubs aren't on there either nor is the standalone D3 modem, so it doesn't look like a full list

It is the official list published by Excentis who do the testing!

So Virginmedia are using uncertified equipment ..... or maybe it is just that the manufacturers used their own reference model numbers rather than VM numbers?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305089)
.... Just because they aren't immediately going to release another beta firmware doesn't mean they aren't looking at what features they can do and how best to proceed.

I assume that a good reference point is the functionality that the Huawei was independently tested for, and was certified for in July?

And why "beta firmware" for the 480? Why not get to some kind of production level?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305112)
Everything thats been 'flagged' in this forum about the other SuperHub is speculation. Nobody has had it installed, so no-one here can say for certain how it performs or what features it does or doesn't have

Errr .... you pointed to WiFi certifications, and that led to the discovery of the "485" detail and that it was independently certified to have more functionality than the 480.

Masque then started asking about the 485 and stated that some people already have it.

Doesn't sound like "speculation" .....

Is it the same project team looking after the Netgear and Huawei devices?

BenMcr 25-09-2011 21:49

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305126)
And why "beta firmware" for the 480? Why not get to some kind of production level?

Before you can get to a production firmware, you have test it first do you not? As part of that testing there will be a 'beta' stage - which is the stage it will have got to when Virgin start asking for people outside of the company to test it, just as they did for R30


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Errr .... you pointed to WiFi certifications, and that led to the discovery of the "485" detail and that it was independently certified to have more functionality than the 480.
I'm aware of that, but until someone here actually has it installed and reports back on how it performs, people are sepeculating on it's performance and functionality

thenry 25-09-2011 21:50

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305112)
Everything thats been 'flagged' in this forum about the other SuperHub is speculation. Nobody has had it installed, so no-one here can say for certain how it performs or what features it does or doesn't have

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Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35305120)
Purely speculation: they don't want to. Why would Cisco work on firmware for some other manufacturers' equipment? :confused:

it just goes to show this whole business plan has been a joke and the fact they, those in charge at vm haven't bothered busting a gut to amend things is literally childs play. i got bored with my new toy that i didn't bother handling with care then broke so i started playing with something else.

BenMcr 25-09-2011 21:57

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305129)
those in charge at vm haven't bothered busting a gut to amend things is literally childs play

I'm pretty sure writing software and firmware certainly isn't childs play

thenry 25-09-2011 22:03

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305133)
I'm pretty sure writing software and firmware certainly isn't childs play

no it isn't which is why customers are so annoyed to have been dumped with a firmware thats bugged to the extremes for so long. for a business plan to be treated how it has been and continues to be from a multi million pound company is childs play.

Sephiroth 25-09-2011 22:05

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I think poor old thenry is being set upon for some of the things he says in innocence and frustration.

To thenry, I'd say that VM have understood at long last the risk associated with using just one SH supplier whose pedigree has so badly let them down. Much too late - and they'll never admit it - but the Huawei addition, stated in this forum a couple of months ago BTW, is the evidence of that fact. As ever, they misunderstand the mistrust people have in the 480 SH, but in all fairness, we have to see what R30 produces.

VM have chosen their partners; there would be commercial reasons to a significant extent and I suspect (opinion) that the SH went out in it's wretched state last year because they couldn't get any more Ambits.

IMO, VM's big mistake was not first putting in a vanilla EuroDOCSIS 3 gateway and then doing the SH properly.

Another mistake (opinion) was not validating a paid for standalone modem from day 1.

VM come out of this with very little if any credit. There is no admission that they got it wrong (fact) - and boy did they get it wrong.

We all hope they've learned from this episode and in future will put the customer at VM's heart.

BenMcr 25-09-2011 22:07

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305137)
for a business plan to be treated how it has been and continues to be from a multi million pound company is childs play.

Again, not childs play.

Any new feature requests will have to be drawn up, identified as to whether they are possible or not, costed to find out how much it will be to add them to the product, scoped for benefit to the customer and the business, planned for production, tested for technical reasons, tested for support reasons, beta tested, trained out to support staff etc.

It's not a simple as just writing it and rolling it out.

jb66 25-09-2011 22:11

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35305140)
I think poor old thenry is being set upon for some of the things he says in innocence and frustration.

To thenry, I'd say that VM have understood at long last the risk associated with using just one SH supplier whose pedigree has so badly let them down. Much too late - and they'll never admit it - but the Huawei addition, stated in this forum a couple of months ago BTW, is the evidence of that fact. As ever, they misunderstand the mistrust people have in the 480 SH, but in all fairness, we have to see what R30 produces.

VM have chosen their partners; there would be commercial reasons to a significant extent and I suspect (opinion) that the SH went out in it's wretched state last year because they couldn't get any more Ambits.

IMO, VM's big mistake was not first putting in a vanilla EuroDOCSIS 3 gateway and then doing the SH properly.

Another mistake (opinion) was not validating a paid for standalone modem from day 1.

VM come out of this with very little if any credit. There is no admission that they got it wrong (fact) - and boy did they get it wrong.

We all hope they've learned from this episode and in future will put the customer at VM's heart.

Why did the ambits stop?

BenMcr 25-09-2011 22:12

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305145)
Why did the ambits stop?

That'll be because Virgin were swapping to the Gateways so the contract will have finished and the supply will have been run down

Peter_ 25-09-2011 22:17

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305126)
So the Virginmedia intranet is 100% up to date and accurate?

Are you for real!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything on the intranet with regards to this device is going to be a lot more accurate than any of the information you could ever post on here or probably have access to unless you are a employee, but I do not think you would that naive to post anything else as you would be breaching company confidentiality and the legal department would want to have words with you to say the least.

jb66 25-09-2011 22:19

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Where's NetgearNigel and AmbitAndy?

Peter_ 25-09-2011 22:21

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305126)

Masque then started asking about the 485 and stated that some people already have it.



Again wrong I said it may well be out with a select batch of testers.:confused:

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I do not think the 485 has been released as yet except to a select few triallists.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35304860-post390.html

HuaweiHank 25-09-2011 22:24

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305128)
Before you can get to a production firmware, you have test it first do you not? As part of that testing there will be a 'beta' stage - which is the stage it will have got to when Virgin start asking for people outside of the company to test it, just as they did for R30

R30 .... the 30th BETA version ? Was there a "Production" version anywhere in the debacle before R30?

Keep in mind that when I test for Microsoft at BETA level they do not charge me!

They don't tell me "this is the mutts nuts, give me your money" !!

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305128)
I'm aware of that, but until someone here actually has it installed and reports back on how it performs, people are sepeculating on it's performance and functionality

I think you will find that the WiFi certification is more than speculation ....

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305133)
I'm pretty sure writing software and firmware certainly isn't childs play

Microsoft agree with you!

That is why they encourage BETA testing FREE OF CHARGE to the testers. They don't sell the product at full charge and hope to get away with it!

And when there is an error they fix it, and the fix works......

:rolleyes:

Edit: "select few triallists" = "a few people already have it" - same thing!

thenry 25-09-2011 22:30

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305142)
Again, not childs play.

Any new feature requests will have to be drawn up, identified as to whether they are possible or not, costed to find out how much it will be to add them to the product, scoped for benefit to the customer and the business, planned for production, tested for technical reasons, tested for support reasons, beta tested, trained out to support staff etc.

It's not a simple as just writing it and rolling it out.

So VM were right to roll out the SuperHub plan with buggy firmwares which have only now been stabilized? thats childs play.

My frustration is all down to the fact staff members saying their going to take a break, its unbelievably pathetic. Like I said, whats done is done.. now move in the right direction but I don't see it. Yes they have new contractors in place now but are they going to provide firmwares? is it all netgear? is someone else involved? are they all together? please excuse my lack of knowledge, confirmation would be nice? if its 1 writing the firmware then having an extra contractor or two would mean the first has extremely shoddy hardware when in fact its been proven that its ok, R30 proves that unless its the wireless chip thats being upgraded?

HuaweiHank 25-09-2011 22:33

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305156)
....
My frustration is all down to the fact staff members saying their going to take a break, its unbelievably pathetic.

I agree....

presumably they also took a break from updating the intranet that Masque believes it 100% acurate .... :dozey:

Hugh 25-09-2011 22:37

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Can we keep to the topic, and have less of the personal remarks (on all sides of the discussion).

Peter_ 25-09-2011 22:41

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305155)




:rolleyes:

Edit: "select few triallists" = "a few people already have it" - same thing!

Selective reading of a speculative answer do please re read my post.:rolleyes:

Do remember that the new Superhub when it arrives will be sent out alongside the existing Superhub and the will be no option to choose one over the other as oddly enough you only lease the equipment so you get what you get.

Sephiroth 25-09-2011 22:42

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305145)
Why did the ambits stop?

According to my information, the underlying reason was VM's re-evaluation of the 8-DS-channel bonding market place. Benmcr has suppplied the rest of the answer.

BenMcr 26-09-2011 08:15

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305156)
My frustration is all down to the fact staff members saying their going to take a break, its unbelievably pathetic

One staff member on forum has said that. So it's not 'members' nor is it an official statement.

Both the Press Office talking to The Register and Mark Wilkin have said the same thing that Virgin will continue to work to bring new features to the SuperHub where possible.

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is it all netgear?
Any future updates to the Netgear SuperHub will be written by Netgear, as it's their hardware

Sephiroth 26-09-2011 11:05

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305156)
So VM were right to roll out the SuperHub plan with buggy firmwares which have only now been stabilized? thats childs play.

My frustration is all down to the fact staff members saying their going to take a break, its unbelievably pathetic. Like I said, whats done is done.. now move in the right direction but I don't see it. Yes they have new contractors in place now but are they going to provide firmwares? is it all netgear? is someone else involved? are they all together? please excuse my lack of knowledge, confirmation would be nice? if its 1 writing the firmware then having an extra contractor or two would mean the first has extremely shoddy hardware when in fact its been proven that its ok, R30 proves that unless its the wireless chip thats being upgraded?

Thenry - don't you think we should build on "what's done is done". This fixation on VM "taking a break" is probably labouring the comment too much.

VM have a bloody nose over the SH. They don't really have the grace to fully admit it, IMO - but they've brought in a second supplier and stats will show whether or not there's an improvement, both with the 485 and the 480.

I think focus might now shift from what a normal Netgear router (or the CG3100D) would offer and what's been removed as a result of VM's firmware specification. In other words, why has VM specified a firmware (slugging some features) and then put up a thread in the VM forum asking punters what features they's like to see? Seems somewhat amateur to me.

thenry 26-09-2011 15:58

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305230)
One staff member on forum has said that. So it's not 'members' nor is it an official statement.

Both the Press Office talking to The Register and Mark Wilkin have said the same thing that Virgin will continue to work to bring new features to the SuperHub where possible.

Any future updates to the Netgear SuperHub will be written by Netgear, as it's their hardware

what about the other contractors, will they have their own firmware? again apologies for my lack of knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35305308)
Thenry - don't you think we should build on "what's done is done". This fixation on VM "taking a break" is probably labouring the comment too much.

VM have a bloody nose over the SH. They don't really have the grace to fully admit it, IMO - but they've brought in a second supplier and stats will show whether or not there's an improvement, both with the 485 and the 480.

I think focus might now shift from what a normal Netgear router (or the CG3100D) would offer and what's been removed as a result of VM's firmware specification. In other words, why has VM specified a firmware (slugging some features) and then put up a thread in the VM forum asking punters what features they's like to see? Seems somewhat amateur to me.

ok yeah I went overboard with the taking a break comment, it just annoyed me to say the least. common sense is enough to realize to recoupe rep, somewhat level things out an additional firmware will be needed and should be happening as we speak. the stabilizer, R30 is foundation which should of been there from the start as we know. to be contempt with it thinking everythings ok now we don't need to pull out any stops is disgraceful if anything. i say all this getting the vibe vm don't really care which goes against their own benefit.

BenMcr 26-09-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35305411)
what about the other contractors, will they have their own firmware? again apologies for my lack of knowledge.

For the SuperHubs yes, each vendor will likely be responsible for the firmware for the hardware they have produced.


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to be contempt with it thinking everythings ok now we don't need to pull out any stops is disgraceful if anything. i say all this getting the vibe vm don't really care which goes against their own benefit.
Again, more complicated that you are saying it is. Just because Virgin haven't immediately said they are doing another update, doesn't mean they won't nor what timescale (short or long) that may be.

thenry 26-09-2011 16:16

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305416)
For the SuperHubs yes, each vendor will likely be responsible for the firmware for the hardware they have produced.

Again, more complicated that you are saying it is. Just because Virgin haven't immediately said they are doing another update, doesn't mean they won't nor what timescale (short or long) that may be.

hope so. btw i'm by no mean going out my way to slate vm, the company i support. my posts are purely down to frustration that this whole things been a joke which i'm sure you'll agree with although you can't publicly state it. i truly hope vm pull something out the bag.

Chrysalis 26-09-2011 16:23

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35304970)
Because Wireless G that is most people's laptops is fine for 30Mbit

However Wireless 'N' is required for 50Mbit and 100Mbit, so to make sure that people can get the speeds the adapters are supplied

Must be good wireless G, I have never seen G hit 30mbit even on lan speeds.

The best I have seen is about 25mbit, and my sisters lappy can barely do just under 20mbit.

BenMcr 26-09-2011 16:24

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I did say 'fine' rather than 'perfect' but happy to be corrected on that ;)

Chrysalis 26-09-2011 16:55

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I think the real probable answer to the dongle is that they wanted to add value to the 50mbit product over the 30mbit by not giving a free dongle with 30mbit. I am fine with that personally but its perhaps becoming a problem because its becoming clear on forum posts that people are expecting full performance over wireless.

qasdfdsaq 26-09-2011 21:56

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35305050)
I know more about this device than you ever will though and strangely that is a 100% fact because I have access to our intranet.:rolleyes:

Also be aware the will be no option of getting one device instead of the other.:D

Actually I already know more about it than you ever will, reinforced by the fact that just about everything you've known aboiut it so far is wrong.

Lets not forget the time I had to spend two weeks explaining to you how the router in the original Superhub worked.

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305126)
So the Virginmedia intranet is 100% up to date and accurate?

Of course it is. This is obviously the same intranet that doesn't know the difference between bits and bytes, and the same intranet that accused me of lying about my contract until I sent them printed evidence from a third party.

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So Virginmedia are using uncertified equipment ..... or maybe it is just that the manufacturers used their own reference model numbers rather than VM numbers?
They already un-certified the wireless part of the old Superhub for their own benefit, maybe other parties are more proactive about revoking certifications for modified products? :p:

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I assume that a good reference point is the functionality that the Huawei was independently tested for, and was certified for in July?
Well the original Netgear one was also independantly tested, and certified, before VM messed around with it and cocked it up.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305133)
I'm pretty sure writing software and firmware certainly isn't childs play

Well actually it is. In fact the reason my social skills are lacking is because I spent my childhood writing software and firmware instead of playing with other kids.

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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35305145)
Why did the ambits stop?

♪Well now in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire the most
The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the Ambits died.♫

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35305150)
Are you for real!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything on the intranet with regards to this device is going to be a lot more accurate than any of the information you could ever post on here or probably have access to

You're saying you know more about something from reading it on the net than an engineer with a device on his workbench. Lol.

I could write a thesis on all the crap your "intranet" has got wrong and all the junk you've regurgitated from it, but alas I have better things to do.

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35305155)
I think you will find that the WiFi certification is more than speculation ....

Yeah, but on the other hand, VM did mess with the original Superhub after certification and uncertified it by changing the feature set and settings, so it's not 100% given that the released version will actually match what they submitted for certification (we know the original one certainly didn't).

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305230)
One staff member on forum has said that. So it's not 'members' nor is it an official statement.

That one staff member also acts like all he says is blessed and insists he knows better than all of us.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305432)
I did say 'fine' rather than 'perfect' but happy to be corrected on that ;)

Well if it's "fine" to have your connection work at half the speed it should do, that might explain why VM thought it was "fine" to release the Superhub while it was a year premature... :p:

BenMcr 26-09-2011 22:24

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35305583)
Well if it's "fine" to have your connection work at half the speed it should do, that might explain why VM thought it was "fine" to release the Superhub while it was a year premature... :p:

Well 75% really if 'G' tops out at 20Mbit and as I said, happy to be corrected on the figures.

qasdfdsaq 26-09-2011 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35305621)
Well 75% really if 'G' tops out at 20Mbit and as I said, happy to be corrected on the figures.

Yeah no worries - good of you to acknowledge, unlike some people :) Just pointing out what some people may not know about '54g' not going near 54.

Though 20mbps is usually the limit under good conditions - as you move further away or get more interference it'll drop so in practice it'll often be lower. 20-24mbps out of 'g' is only next to the router with low interference - though again 'g' is a bit more resiliant than 'n' in practice.

Haven't seen anyone really benchmark the wireless performance (as in actually pushed to the limit) on these Superhubs yet mind you. But if/when I do (soon) get my own SH I shall certainly be pushing it whatever firmware it has.

kwikbreaks 27-09-2011 09:31

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I'm not sure if R30 corrected it or not but on R26 my Superhub keeled over and hung about 15 minutes into a LAN backup when using the 300Mbps setting. It did survive on the 150Mbps setting but was slow - just how slow I don't remember exactly but did post the numbers up on the VM community board - it was in a thread that lead to them sending me a replacement which did exactly the same. It was a completely uncontrolled test of course.

qasdfdsaq 27-09-2011 18:15

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Actually now that you remind me, I could take the wireless card out the Superhub and put it in my laptop, so I can do an controlled test of how "bad" the Superhub itself makes things turn - i.e. same wireless card in a PC vs. the same card in a Superhub to see what the Superhub firmware does to things.

bbxxl 28-09-2011 21:15

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Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

KenK 28-09-2011 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 35306755)
Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

I believe it has now been released, but may not have rolled out to everyone yet. You'll need to read others' opinions on it.

Sephiroth 28-09-2011 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 35306755)
Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

It was released on 13-Sep-11.

xnoddyx 28-09-2011 23:12

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i have Just had 50mb to 100mb upgrade and got the virgin media super hub (NETGEAR CG3101D) and have probs with the R30 firmware will list in a min

funny thing is i had all most the same prob with my old NETGEAR WNR2000 for just over one year when i got my 50mb so just over a year complaining to NETGEAR got a fixed firmware that has worked with no problems for just over 2 years now one prob that i had was that the remote admin even when off was on and was set to port 80 and as i run a home web server this pretty much bugged that up so had to ues my old router and at 1st i got from NETGEAR i dont see nothing wrong with that emm it dont work i still got the vid i made to show them as well.
(bot)
now i have the super hub :erm: :dozey: lol remote admin on the R30 firmware wont turn on portforward and dmz dont work so had to put the (not so super hub) into Modem Mode and ues my NETGEAR WNR2000 for routering

the strange thing is though when in super hub mode i got a new ip as i was expecting but when i put it into Modem Mode i got my old ip that i had on my 50mb modem :confused::confused: lol and i only get 25Mbps to 48Mbps https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/09/3.png but only had the 100MB for a day so will give it till friday

Chrysalis 29-09-2011 07:48

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Its released, me and a few others are not getting the firmware sent tho.

However the answers from VM staff are the people who have failed to get R30 have poor power levels, its possible it seems if the power levels are out of spec for safety reasons it aborts an update.

Currently I am not using attenuators so my power levels are high, they plan to send me a tech next week.

sniper007 29-09-2011 17:50

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The other day I had the R30 pushed to my router. We lost internet access - router status was something like "not authorised" and it would not dish out a public wan IP.
I phoned support first thing in the morning when we noticed. We had to wait 12 hours for "updates to run sir" according to India. Sure enough it came back online about 8pm after a few reboots. Not sure why we lost service for a day. Anyone explain this?

thenry 29-09-2011 19:34

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post it on the community, staff members will take a look and explain.

Hugh 30-09-2011 06:59

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Some posts have been removed, due to them being solely argumentative/bordering on abusive.

Repetition of this behaviour will lead to infractions

Welshchris 01-10-2011 13:16

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is there any news to when the new hub will be put into circulation and will all areas be given the second supply or just some?.

thenry 01-10-2011 13:38

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VM wont release that information, it'll just cause unnecessary problems. The only way you'll know its being supplied to customers is when customers state they have this, that or the other plus you wont get a choice. Its been stated within this thread already.

What VM need to do is improve the firmware with real intent making the SuperHub function to the best of its ability.

Peter_ 01-10-2011 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35308198)
is there any news to when the new hub will be put into circulation and will all areas be given the second supply or just some?.

It will be available to all areas but you will not be given an option to swap as it is classed as the same device and will be listed as such on the warehouse shelves so you will get whatever the orderpicker takes off the shelf.

Sirius 01-10-2011 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35308239)
It will be available to all areas but you will not be given an option to swap as it is classed as the same device and will be listed as such on the warehouse shelves so you will get whatever the orderpicker takes off the shelf.

Some will still jump up and down like a big kid shouting i want i want i want :LOL:

Peter_ 01-10-2011 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308243)
Some will still jump up and down like a big kid shouting i want i want i want :LOL:

I hope they do and that they get told to accept the one they already have and if one gets sent out i also hope it is the same version they already have.

I rather doubt the CEO's office will be able to help either as they will be charged extra by the warehouse to send out a specific device which would make it a pointless exercise.

kwikbreaks 01-10-2011 15:40

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So it seems in the case of VM the customer is not always right....

If the devices are known to perform differently or offer different features then I reckon a lot of the inferior ones will be failing left right and centre. See my eBay shop for 24v PSUs folks :)

qasdfdsaq 01-10-2011 16:28

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Lol. You should maybe supply them with prepaid SAEs so your customers don't get caught with them at their house when the engineer comes!

KenK 02-10-2011 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35308214)
What VM need to do is improve the firmware with real intent making the SuperHub function to the best of its ability.

I have a sad feeling that they already have done that ...

HuaweiHank 02-10-2011 23:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35308239)
It will be available to all areas but you will not be given an option to swap as it is classed as the same device and will be listed as such on the warehouse shelves so you will get whatever the orderpicker takes off the shelf.

You have said this same nonsense, or similar many times. It is getting boring to hear the actual situation misrepresented!

Can we just dismiss the nonsense that the warehouse shelves are randomly filled with similar, but as confirmed by this thread not the same products, that warehouse operatives can randomly wander along and pick.

It does not work that way in any warehouse, let alone the Virginmedia BRS, and certainly not in any K&N warehouse.

The Netgear 480 and the Huawei 485 will have different SKUs / part numbers. They will arrive at different times and will be staged as discrete batches.

It may well be that Wednesday = 480s, and Friday = 485s, but the batching and storage in the warehouse will be discrete.

So if the CEO office requests a 485 as the superior device there is no picking overhead, so no additional cost.

If you don't understand warehouse logistics, and believe me you don't Masque, then don't misrepresent Virginmedia!

:cool:

---------- Post added at 23:32 ---------- Previous post was at 23:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35307440)
Some posts have been removed, due to them being solely argumentative/bordering on abusive.

Repetition of this behaviour will lead to infractions

Surely the removed posts that were "solely argumentative/bordering on abusive" were the infractions, and any repetition of those will lead to some form of penalty?

:cool:

Peter_ 03-10-2011 05:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35309035)
You have said this same nonsense, or similar many times. It is getting boring to hear the actual situation misrepresented!



If you don't understand warehouse logistics, and believe me you don't Masque, then don't misrepresent Virginmedia!



:cool:

You do know that you are talking rubbish and that the will be no getting one Superhub over the other the same as when we supplied both the Cisco EPC2100 and Ambit 256 alongside each other.

I have worked in Logistics unlike yourself so do not try and quote about a job you have no idea about.

jb66 03-10-2011 07:18

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When there was a SA v+ or a Samsung v+ I couldn't choose, I got given whatever pallet was oldest

Hugh 03-10-2011 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35309035)
snippety snip snip...

Surely the removed posts that were "solely argumentative/bordering on abusive" were the infractions, and any repetition of those will lead to some form of penalty?

:cool:

Thank you for your grammatical feedback - valued, as always....

I should have said "will lead to the infractions system being invoked" - the removed posts weren't infractions, repeating them would have been....

I hope you find this link useful - Cable Forum's Acceptable Use Policy

deuse 03-10-2011 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309057)
You do know that you are talking rubbish and that the will be no getting one Superhub over the other the same as when we supplied both the Cisco EPC2100 and Ambit 256 alongside each other.

I have worked in Logistics unlike yourself so do not try and quote about a job you have no idea about.


I got a samsung(V2) V+ box to replace a older V+ box and I will be getting the new VMDG485 when they come out.

All I did was ask ;)

I am on my 3rd SH with R30..this firmware mistake must be costing VM a bomb.

EDIT=I forgot to say that I got a self install kit(with all the extras) when I got my first SH..because I asked for it ;)

Peter_ 03-10-2011 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309198)
I got a samsung(V2) V+ box to replace a older V+ box and I will be getting the new VMDG485 when they come out.

All I did was ask ;)

I am on my 3rd SH with R30..this firmware mistake must be costing VM a bomb.

EDIT=I forgot to say that I got a self install kit(with all the extras) when I got my first SH..because I asked for it ;)

Do not hold your breath then.

---------- Post added at 13:28 ---------- Previous post was at 13:23 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuaweiHank (Post 35309035)

The Netgear 480 and the Huawei 485 will have different SKUs / part numbers. They will arrive at different times and will be staged as discrete batches.



:cool:

Maybe you should tell them that as oddly no equipment is ordered in that way we just have a standard code fits all as it prevents the need to update the software to encompass new additions.:rolleyes:

So the sticker will say Superhub and be attached to all boxes regardless of make as that is the way the system works.:rolleyes:

BenMcr 03-10-2011 13:51

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I expect that the order code will be the same, but the equipment code will be different as it was for the two V+ models

deuse 03-10-2011 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309217)
Do not hold your breath then.

---------- Post added at 13:28 ---------- Previous post was at 13:23 ----------


Maybe you should tell them that as oddly no equipment is ordered in that way we just have a standard code fits all as it prevents the need to update the software to encompass new additions.:rolleyes:

So the sticker will say Superhub and be attached to all boxes regardless of make as that is the way the system works.:rolleyes:


I don't get my hardware sent from VM Wellingborough-NN8-2DH like most do ;)
And yes nice people from VM do give you what you ask for so please stop ;)

Peter_ 03-10-2011 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35309233)
I expect that the order code will be the same, but the equipment code will be different as it was for the two V+ models

I doubt that it will matter much as they will just get what the guy in the warehouse picks up as with the standard modems.

---------- Post added at 14:51 ---------- Previous post was at 14:47 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309245)
I don't get my hardware sent from VM Wellingborough-NN8-2DH like most do ;)
And yes nice people from VM do give you what you ask for so please stop ;)

No one gets their equipment from Virginmedia as it is outsourced to Kuene and Nagel who just orderpick an item so again do not hold your breath as you are just as likely to get the same device.

The new device will also have a version of R30 on it so it could prove to still have the same issue which will show the fault ain't with the supplied kit. ;)

deuse 03-10-2011 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309265)
I doubt that it will matter much as they will just get what the guy in the warehouse picks up as with the standard modems.

---------- Post added at 14:51 ---------- Previous post was at 14:47 ----------


No one gets their equipment from Virginmedia as it is outsourced to Kuene and Nagel who just orderpick an item so again do not hold your breath as you are just as likely to get the same device.

The new device will also have a version of R30 on it so it could prove to still have the same issue which will show the fault ain't with the supplied kit. ;)

1-I know it's K+H in wellingborough(i did post their addy)
2-How do you account for I asked for a self install kit and got one(not from K+H)?
3-How do you account for the new Samsung(V2)V+ box I got(not from K+H)?

As I have said all you have to do is ask the right person ;)

It's a wonder Kuene and Nagel don't get told off for putting the VM customers private\Mobile phone number on the outside of the box tut tut :)

Peter_ 03-10-2011 15:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309302)

It's a wonder Kuene and Nagel don't get told off for putting the VM customers private\Mobile phone number on the outside of the box tut tut :)

You are aware that they do not deliver anything and are just a holding warehouse and all items are delivered by YODEL/HDNL and some smaller items by Royal Mail so try them instead.

deuse 03-10-2011 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309304)
You are aware that they do not deliver anything and are just a holding warehouse and all items are delivered by YODEL/HDNL and some smaller items by Royal Mail so try them instead.


According to my aunt who emailed yodel about this on VM parcels.. yodel said they put what VM want them to to put on the label.
At the end of the day how could they(yodel) know their phone number. tut tut VM.
Anyway back to the crappy R30 firmware....

Peter_ 03-10-2011 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309531)
According to my aunt who emailed yodel about this on VM parcels.. yodel said they put what VM want them to to put on the label.
At the end of the day how could they(yodel) know their phone number. tut tut VM.
Anyway back to the crappy R30 firmware....

Because they copy the details from your account when they take receipt of the order, you only had to ask.:rolleyes::D

By the way read the red part of my signature, I have only had one Superhub since install in February and have trialled both R29 and R30 presently in modem mode with a System Up Time of 34 days 08h:24m:10s, working exactly as advertised.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/66.png

thenry 03-10-2011 20:47

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am I right in thinking the carrier has the number in case of an issue where they, the carrier can contact the person their delivering the parcel to Masque?

whats the problem in the carrier having the destinations contact number?

Peter_ 03-10-2011 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35309542)
am I right in thinking the carrier has the number in case of an issue where they, the carrier can contact the person their delivering the parcel to Masque?

whats the problem in the carrier having the destinations contact number?

Exactly and they text you the delivery number with a link to the website to track your parcel and they text you when it is out on delivery and then to alert you to the expected delivery time and mine in February was spot on to the second.

I do think that a them having your mobile number is a prerequisite for this to happen.:D

deuse 03-10-2011 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309538)
Because they copy the details from your account when they take receipt of the order, you only had to ask.:rolleyes::D

It is a private number and VM did not ask if they could give it out..also VM said they never give out details to 3rd partys:rolleyes::D
This what VM has said to my aunt last week and are looking into it...

Quote:

By the way read the red part of my signature, I have only had one Superhub since install in February and have trialled both R29 and R30 presently in modem mode with a System Up Time of 34 days 08h:24m:10s, working exactly as advertised.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/66.png
Yes and I used to be a milk man at the Co-Op and my Mrs got her milk on time every morning :)
it,s amazing what you get if you work for the company have things from ;)

Peter_ 03-10-2011 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309564)
It is a private number and VM did not ask if they could give it out..also VM said they never give out details to 3rd partys:rolleyes::D
This what VM has said to my aunt last week and are looking into it...

If she was asked for a mobile number it goes into a specific screen that an engineer can see or the delivery company can see and no one else.


Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309564)
Yes and I used to be a milk man at the Co-Op and my Mrs got her milk on time every morning :)
it,s amazing what you get if you work for the company have things from ;)

Now that would be great if it was true as my neighbours would benefit from such a deal and have a perfect connection, now in reality all we get is a staff deal with a nice low rate to pay.

Even booking an engineer means the same wait as everyone else.
Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309564)
Glad they don't have my mobile number...I get emails when I get new shiny things from VM ;)

If you require an engineer visit then you would never receive an email about it as the engineer rings you on your mobile number to tell you he is so many minutes away, nothing to do with equipment deliveries and if I sent you something you again would not receive an email.

thenry 03-10-2011 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuse (Post 35309564)
It is a private number and VM did not ask if they could give it out..also VM said they never give out details to 3rd partys:rolleyes::D
This what VM has said to my aunt last week and are looking into it...

its all part of the service :confused:

all my delivery tags have been manually removed by myself and then scribbled out. if the material is shredder friendly then shred it once you've got what you ordered which I've done too. theres also scissors you could use to cut the delivery tag into little pieces before putting into the bin or recycle bin.

Peter_ 03-10-2011 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35309589)
its all part of the service :confused:

all my delivery tags have been manually removed by myself and then scribbled out. if the material is shredder friendly then shred it once you've got what you ordered which I've done too. theres also scissors you could use to cut the delivery tag into little pieces before putting into the bin or recycle bin.

That is exactly what I do and have done today with my packaging from Amazon.

KenK 03-10-2011 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309265)
The new device will also have a version of R30 on it so it could prove to still have the same issue which will show the fault ain't with the supplied kit. ;)

So what? If the fault ain't with the kit, it still could be with the supplied firmware.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309538)
presently in modem mode with a System Up Time of 34 days 08h:24m:10s, working exactly as advertised.

Gee, a modem that stays working for over a month! :rolleyes:

I think you should remove that red part of your sig, since you're not using it as any form of "hub". Either that, or put it back in full "super"hub modem/router/wireless mode for a couple of months, without adding your old router to extend the wireless coverage, then report on how it is.

Peter_ 03-10-2011 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35309611)
So what? If the fault ain't with the kit, it still could be with the supplied firmware.
Gee, a modem that stays working for over a month! :rolleyes:

I think you should remove that red part of your sig, since you're not using it as any form of "hub". Either that, or put it back in full "super"hub modem/router/wireless mode for a couple of months, without adding your old router to extend the wireless coverage, then report on how it is.

Actually prior to R29 it had been up for 84 days as a modem/router as well and i did post that at the time.

It is still a Superhub so my signature is quite valid just it is in Modem Mode.

Sephiroth 03-10-2011 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35309611)
.........
I think you should remove that red part of your sig, since you're not using it as any form of "hub". Either that, or put it back in full "super"hub modem/router/wireless mode for a couple of months, without adding your old router to extend the wireless coverage, then report on how it is.

For what my opinion is worth, I find the above comment bizarre.

Peops have been screaming out for modem mode in the Superhub for many reasons, including perceptions of poor wirelss performance. Now that it's here, to have a go at Masque's sig and his tracked record of uptime is somewhat churlish to say the least.

KenK 03-10-2011 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309622)
Actually prior to R29 it had been up for 84 days as a modem/router as well and i did post that at the time.

It is still a Superhub so my signature is quite valid just it is in Modem Mode.

You previously posted, way back, that you were using an additional router "to extend wireless coverage". I presume, now that you're using Modem Mode, that you have other arrangements for wireless access (maybe it's the same router, I don't know). Try using the "super"hub as your only network device for a while and then tell us how wonderful it is.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35309626)
For what my opinion is worth, I find the above comment bizarre.

Peops have been screaming out for modem mode in the Superhub for many reasons, including perceptions of poor wirelss performance. Now that it's here, to have a go at Masque's sig and his tracked record of uptime is somewhat churlish to say the least.

It's called a "hub" because it's supposed to be a combined modem + router + wireless access point. Using it in modem mode means that the router and wireless part are turned off. Therefore - in that mode - it's no longer a hub, it's just a modem; the clue is in the name of the mode. What's so good about a modem that stays active for a month?

kwikbreaks 03-10-2011 22:40

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The Superhub is yesterdays news now. The VM community forum is naturally still full of griping but Superhub woes no longer account for 50% of it. I seriously doubt that it will ever have features to match the "super" part of its name now that it can be turned into an oversized modem and the customers can use their flexible friends to buy a router to suit their needs to use with it easily.

Sephiroth 03-10-2011 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35309654)
......It's called a "hub" because it's supposed to be a combined modem + router + wireless access point. Using it in modem mode means that the router and wireless part are turned off. Therefore - in that mode - it's no longer a hub, it's just a modem; the clue is in the name of the mode. What's so good about a modem that stays active for a month?

That's pointless pedantry. Wretched device as it has been, it is called the Superhub that works in two modes, one of which is the hub to which you allude. To be so small minded as to argue the toss over its retained name - especially as it's the Superhub in Modem Mode in Masque's case, is pointless. Where's it going to take you in this debate?

KenK 03-10-2011 23:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35309682)
That's pointless pedantry. Wretched device as it has been, it is called the Superhub that works in two modes, one of which is the hub to which you allude. To be so small minded as to argue the toss over its retained name - especially as it's the Superhub in Modem Mode in Masque's case, is pointless. Where's it going to take you in this debate?

It's beyond me how anyone can claim that a device called a "hub" is working Perfectly, when they've chosen to turn off two-thirds of its function. And I've been waiting months for an answer to my question "what is 'super' about it?".

Wretched and mis-named device as it still seems to be, I have to agree with kwikbreaks - it's now just an oversized modem.

Sephiroth 04-10-2011 00:05

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Nobody's gonna answer your question about what is super in that device. You know that perfectly well. Not even the VM bods have gone that far to date. As I said, peops have been waiting a long time to shed themselves of two-thirds of its supposed functions.

It's certainly more "super" with modem mode (R30) than it was without it - even if it isn't "super" at all.

So think of something useful to say like Kwikkie did.

Peter_ 04-10-2011 05:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35309694)
It's beyond me how anyone can claim that a device called a "hub" is working Perfectly, when they've chosen to turn off two-thirds of its function. And I've been waiting months for an answer to my question "what is 'super' about it?".

I used my Edimax as an access point on the end of a 20 mtr cable in another room and used the wireless of the Superhub as well and most devices when in range of both devices chose the Superhub, I am now in Modem Mode and it is working perfectly as always and has never once faltered in its performance and I have had close to 8 months.

I have posted previously about my uptime and will keep the Superhub on as long as possible to see how long it stays online.


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