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Because it's this government that are making such drastic and so many cuts. that's all these people see, experience and care about. they don't care who's to blame for what's lead up to this. all that matters to them is what's happening now.

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Whst a load of rubbish.

Whatever political motivation there is behind these riots there is absolutely no justification whatsoever in people destroying other people's property in the manner in which they are doing. Any one who has a legitimate grievance against the government should use their power on polling day, as a legal means of telling the government that they do not agree with their mandate to govern.

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Mick i never said it was right what so ever or Justified but a lot of people are annoyed and just thought they would work out their aggression on something and jumped on the bandwaggon so to speak.

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Well, when our night bus in Liverpool is diverted and nearly a target of yobs, then that changes your opinion really quickly, believe me. very scary stuff. :(

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It's nothing to do with people being annoyed. - It's pure evilness and lack of respect for other people. If people are naffed off with the government as you so suggest then why take it out on other people? Surely the target would be the government that the aggression is aimed at?

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I expect that some of these buildings/premises/homes that have been destroyed are where some of these persons relations work or live.

so mummy or daddy could be out of a job or a home. which makes them worse off than they were before.

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Just on the news that Police may be issued Plastic bullets for tonight ...

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Finally! I was talking about that on Twitter last night. Or failing that get Robocop and Batman on the case. The city would be safe quickly.

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Well maybe if it gets a bit more organised. they may target Parliament.

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and ur saying our Government has Respect for those it governs?

if that was the case they wouldnt be stealing left right and center from their expesnes, they wouldnt be spending our taxes so lavishly on themselves while everyone else struggles.

As i said they just jumped on the bandwaggon of riots happening. Wasnt it Martin Luthor King who said something along the lines of "Rioting is the voice of the unheard". In other words people felt they wernt being listened to and wanted to shout and they felt this is the only way they could do that.

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try lighting some of the pure crap that Cameron spouts that will ward them off across the UK. FLames 10 miles long!.

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Sorry, but I don't think your average 15 year old would be thinking of government cuts when he or she is looting a new phone/game console/pair of trainers.

In fact, I doubt that most of the rioters were thinking of anything more than what they could loot.

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LOL the A-Team would be my choice. only because Steven Seagal is too fat now.

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Unbelievable.

I cannot believe you are comparing these riots to the riots of the 60's when black men and women were rioting for the same freedoms and rights as white people.

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How do u know that?

Think of it like this im not saying it is in all cases but imagine this...

Government cuts benefits = cant afford kids = kids not affording things like other kids = joining the riots to get what they want.

If just a small percentage are like that it adds up to numbers to those already rioting and phaps even the parents were rioting to get what they cant afford cos of benfit cuts.

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Spot on, Stu. :clap:

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where did i say that?

I just give a quote from what a man said. If that man was white u wouldnt be taking this in a racial context i dread to think how your mind truly works if its like this at times.

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This is off topic.

Sorry, but you are comparing a set of riots where people's only interest appeared to be causing trouble and nicking consumer goods with a set of riots where people were in a legitimate fight for the right to be treated equally with others.

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It normally requires a political motive rather than a bomb, greed for big tv's doesn't qualify as a political motive imo.

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Again Stuart i was just giving a quote of what a man said NOTHING to do with equality or racial and as i said if the man who had said it was white then it wouldnt have been taken in such a way and in a way thats sad because it shows how peoples mind works when they think of someone

Martin Luthor King = Black.

I just think of him as a man who forght for the rights of people.

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LOL did anyone see that guy on Sky news just talking about Anarchists and parliament being next on the list?

anyone on here?

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Seems to me that people who don't live in deprived areas and have decent prospects are less likely to go on a looting spree. Not that that is an excuse for what we've seen, but I do think there has to be more to this than simply 'because we can'.

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Regardless of his colour, Martin Luther King was fighting for the rights of people. A fight that I agree with. A fight where, AFAIK, the rioters did not attack members of their own community.

IF the rioters last night had fought in Westminster, then I'd agree, they were targeting the government who you say they probably have the grievance with. They targeted areas (last night anyway) where there are a lot of mobile phone, consumer electronics and sports shops. They also targeted their own communities. In some cases, they targeted poor areas while saying they were targeting the rich.

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would never happen.

They would ring parliment buildings with everything they have and let the rest of us suffer before they saw those go up.

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Because those who are not in a deprived area are not your typical thug.
I think the real reasoning behind it is that they are doing it for the fun of it, and because it's been allowed to carry on for so long.

if you do talk to them about why they're doing it then poverty will and is being used as the excuse now. only because boredom as an excuse becomes boring to hear.

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and how do we know that some of these people are not fighting for their people IE The Common Man?

As i said people were heard to be shouting "We are just getting our taxes back" during looting.

When people are being denied services, benfits and so on they have paid taxes for and yet see those who governs them living a lavish lifestyle in new cars and so on it will annoy most.

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Perhaps they don't realise the common mans going to end up paying a lot more in tax and hiked insurance premiums to cover the cost of these peoples antics, I'm prepared to bet thought that the fortunes of the common man and his plight are of little consequence to all but the smallest number of rioters.

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Welshchris i am sorry but are you for real seriously your equating political knowledge with this bunch of morons who probably have more knowledge of ceebeebees then westminster come off it. This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with a generation that has grown up thinking they can do what the hell they want when they want and nothing more detailed then that.

Should the military be bought into this right now no give the police the chance to use large numbers to overpower this bunch of troublemakers. Now if we have problems tonight then the last resort of the police option is to take off the gloves untie their hands from behind their backs and let them go full in and crack some heads. If that also fails then like it or not military involvement in this has got to happen we cannot allow our capital to be held to ransom by a gang of thugs.

Never underestimate the psychological fear factor of troops rolling in heavy armour fully suited and booted for trouble we are not dealing with true believers here were dealing with mindless thugs who only like the odds when it is clearly in their favour. Seeing a bunch of heavily armed troops i gaurantee will end this quick sharp as they are not up for trouble against anyone who can give back more then they can deal out hell they leg it from a bunch of shopkeepers with bats and kitchen knives.

You honestly think they are going to see a few hundred troops armed and fancy their chances are they hell. If nothing else you can position military to keep some areas calm allowing you to free up more officers to go elsewhere. Hard and fast should become the new mantra and any officer enegaging an active rioter should not have to be worrying about their job.

How do you make sure you do not hit innocents simples you go on tele you announce to everyone that you have had enough anyone on the steets after a certain time is considered to be a member of the troubles and will be dealt with accordingly. It isn't nice it isn't perfect but if we take the time to come up with both of those our cities will be burning down around us.

Enough is enough of this the time has come for whatever force necessary to be used to end this once and for all this is not the true representation of the ountry we live in this is not a representation of the massive majority in this country and it HAS TO STOP NOW.

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so who is the rioters' candidate for office after they get Cameron out

Some bloke called Reg ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

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Do people realise that tho? all they want is what they can get.

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Exactly, they are for the common man as much as Dave and his Eaton chums are.

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How does looting small independant businesses for booze etc stick it to the government? While I am no great fan of large business, how does looting Debenhams, or Sony stick it to the government? One of the businesses burned down in Croydon was a 150 year old furniture shop that employed 15 people. How does depriving the families of those 15 people of their jobs (and therefore income) stick it to the government?

Sorry, but what these rioters did cannot be justified. Simply put, it was pure evil.

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Not according to the man in Scotland Yard. they don't use them anymore he said.

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Our troops are seriously under equiped against people in deserts do u think the Government would be happy splashing out money to better equip them?

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just by causing the civil unrest and public damage would stick it to them as i said im not stating its right im just stating possible reasons.

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Yes, Because Currys are a key recipient of our taxes :erm:

Because they worked for them.

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It would help if you actually watched or read the news.:rolleyes:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23332124/

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Which benefits have been cut?

There are plans to rationalise and consolidate benefits, but these haven't happened yet?

And what about the 99.999% of those in the same position - you lessen them by giving the looters this poor excuse for their thieving.

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What the hell? Get with the program dude.

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thank god,finally some sense and tactics that will actually help.

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I haven't had time to catch up on the last few pages of this thread so apologise if this has been covered. I really believe this is David Cameron's 'Falklands' moment. Decisive action now and he has the chance to be a hero, failure to do so and the riots continue/worsen and he'll pay the price.

I may be wrong by the likes of Shami Chakrabarti have been prety quiet lately. :confused: :rolleyes: I wonder if they're too busy boarding up their nice homes in their nice streets. I wonder if they're starting to feel rather uneasy about all the civil liberties these **** are taking advantage of. I wonder if they're proud of the weak and ineffectual policing we've been left with as a result of the constant barrage of complaints and legal actions they've generated against the authorities in their single-minded and naive pursuit of 'freedom'.

Now their fashionable watering holes, eateries, shops, offices and even homes are being looted and burned I wonder if they'll be quite so forgiving of those who're responsible and quite so ready to jump to their defence? Now the quaint and affluent streets of London are under threat, I wonder if the left leaning, namby-pamby lawyers, judges, politicians, journalists, activists and other apologists who live in them are focussing their minds on what they've allowed to happen and the vigilantism that is inevitably starting to surface?

I wonder how loud Ms Chakrabati will be shouting if her home is looted/burned and/or her loved ones attacked? Let's hope the police make a good job of protecting her and all the others like her......

As for police tactics. The gloves need to come off ASAP. Their obvious impotence in the face of the mob is inciting more wrongdoing and encouraging more youths to get involved, secure in the knowledge that they can do what they want right in front of the police and nothing is done. IMHO snatch squads and the like need to immediately take out the small groups and masked ringleaders BEFORE they gel into a mob. These people are coming from all over London and police indecisiveness is allowing them to come together and a pack mentality to form. It's like a series of small fires which turn into a huge forest fire unless they're rapidly extinguished. The police also need to consider those areas which may well be being left with little or no police cover.

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Damien what i think they meant by getting their taxes back was getting the monies worth that was paid into and they can no longer get wheather it be because of loss of services or whatever.

So they worked for a brand new Governmental car and a Personal Photographer when they became prime minister? So every Prime Minister should have them and also most of the Front bench should get brand new cars when a new party comes into power?

As for loss of services im currently annoyed at Cutbacks here in Swansea. Ive been told its a possibility i have Deep Vein Thrombosis in my right leg and was in the list for a scan and didnt hear a thing. When i enquired i was told that the request was sent back to my doctor stating no cos i no longer fell into the catagory for that scan due to cutbacks and the ammount of patients needed to be seen and the doctor doesnt know what he can do now for the moment.

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Easy because they are just *******S in it for the rush of destroying and stealing other peoples property, we really need water cannon and baton rounds brought in to use and they will soon run home.

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DLA has been cut for one which could affect upto 500,000 hence the big march in London a month or so ago. Some even said that if they lose part of the money that they get which helps towards care needs and so on they will no longer be able to leave their houses.

The Cutbacks are being taken from the wrong people and those who need it the most.

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Even if there was any truth to this - That still doesn't justify these riots in any way shape or form.

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I'd imagine investigators swelled those numbers though :D

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It's not civil liberties that is allowing them to riot, it's the numbers making it difficult to get a hold on them. They are still breaking the law. We shouldn't use incidents like this to restrict our freedoms. I really doubt they are feeling uneasy about civil liberties considering all of us take advantage of them on a daily basis.

Such a cheap shot. Just because you believe in civil liberties or your 'left leaning' doesn't mean you approve of riots or 'allowed it to happen' :rolleyes:

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It would help if you wasn't so damn rude :)

I got it off the news. he said someone has been misinformed. we don't use them. meaning I suppose we don't use them and won't be using them.

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The proposed cuts haven't happened yet, so your statement is incorrect.

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People aren't being denied services.For the past 13 years these people were given whatever they wanted,pandered to,told they were victims,told that society owed them something and that they had nowt to do for it,other than being a victim,of course!
How many BILLIONS have been pumped into all sorts of social programs/social engineering and what not.All of that of course paid for by ordinary,decent mugs that go to work and pay for their own living.

Now that a new government comes in and tries to wean these people off the states t**,all goes up in flames?? :mad::mad::td:

No,these 'people' are just leeches,who now take what they were told is theirs anyway.... entitled to it all,responsible for none of it. :td:

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l was just stating that the Met police had that amount of personal and perhaps after the first day they should have been more prepared for the second and third day of riots and perhaps you should have thought more yesterday when l stated that David Cameron should be back in this country and you said l was going over the top in asking for thim to be back in this country well hindsight is a wonderful thing Hugh for both of us as things can develop
very quickly before our eyes but lets give praise to David Cameron for cutting short his holiday and returning forthwith to this country and all we need now is for the police to become more forceful with these idiots.

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People in Clapham arriving to clean up the mess:

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Two people making tea for the police on riot patrol:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/

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Can't some people stop getting political as the most important thing here is to sort out these idiots.

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If I was a copper I'd do them all for offensive weapons :)

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Is the Mirror forgetting Northern Ireland is a part of Britian

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It should say mainland but I also like the bit where the Mirror has quoted the Guardian which is just as bad.

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l find no satisfaction of mentioning it earlier at all as these things can develop so quickly and the main thing is to sort out these idiots.

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Now that brought a smile to my face. I love that pic with the brooms. More of that please :)

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Have I argued for NO civil liberties? Have I said it's black and white? All or nothing? Did I say these people condoned rioting? That's rather a pathetic response and a very cheap shot of your own if I may say so. What these people have allowed to happen is not the riots, but the gradual taking away of the police's ability to act to defend the majority and the erosion of the respect with which they should be regarded. It's that which has allowed the riots to happen and I trust that's clear enough for you now. It seems you 'misunderstood' an earlier post of mine and I don't normally have that much trouble being clear so you'd probably be doing yourself a favour if you tried reading my last post again and, instead of putting words in my mouth, asking me to clairfy what you don't understand.

In my experience the vast majority of people arguing the Chakrabti line are left inclined. Just to be clear, that's not the same as saying they all are or that people of different political views can't be likewise. Neither is it the same as saying that all civil liberties aren't important or valuable. In an ideal world we should/would all have perfect civil liberties but when our freedoms start to be abused on a mass and organised scale like this I'm afraid the real world has to take over and certain civil liberties have to be suspended. Nobody likes that but the writing's been on the wall and the sight of our our burning towns and emasculated police being abused/attacked/provoked to their faces are the best possible evidence that things have gone too far.

What's Ms Chakrabati's answer to this do you think? What does she suggest the police do? She's normally so vocal when the police have supposedly done wrong......

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Look at these 2 stupid girls bragging about it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

i'd love to slap them silly

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It Just shows the shocking don't care no respect attitude of some of these people.

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Right now the usual vocal civil liberties campaigners will be quiet keep out of sight until the police do go in heavy handed and then you watch them come out of the woodwork and spout the usual platitudes. These people are not representing the common man\woman they are not protesting against government cuts or doing this in support of the disabled and to say that is giving them an whiff of legitimacy they do not deserve and should not receive.

They are destroying their own communites for five minutes of what no doubt with many of them passes for fun the fact that this will scare off business and therefore cut the number of jobs in the short to medium term will not enter their heads because most of them are not mature enough to even think of that. We have to swing back in someways to older days where there was respect for others and their property and a return to the days when people were able to defend themselves and their property aghainst allcomer's.

We need to get back to a time where police were able to deal with the very worst in our society without them being scared ineffective of losing their job or someone getting a shot of them on a mobile with which they and they alone are judged and their scalp hunted by the usual suspects. We have gone too far down the tolerence road and accomadation road and this is where it leads and to much worse if we continue.

**** are **** you can be nice to them, you can accomadate them and you can give them things to keep them happy for a bit but what they are will always show itself at the slightest excuse and thats what we're seeing here.

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That is the best news i have heard all day :clap:

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yeah, just read now

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23332124/

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l totally agree with your post.:clap::clap:

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:LOL:, does that included you thinly veiled attacks on the present Government in which you quickly say " not that i am involving politics" " or dont involve politics"

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That's an extremely unfair thing to say!




(they are not that thinly veiled....:D)

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I didn't misunderstand the original post at all. The distinction between claiming they created the environment which allowed the protests to happen and they caused the protest is not great, your still tagging them with some responsibly for the riots. That the civil liberties they fight for allowed it to happen.

Now the quaint and affluent streets of London are under threat, I wonder if the left leaning, namby-pamby lawyers, judges, politicians, journalists, activists and other apologists who live in them are focussing their minds on what they've allowed to happen and the vigilantism that is inevitably starting to surface?


This would have happened anyway. There were riots many times before in London, long before the police had more restrictions placed on them. This one is especially odd because it's just sheer criminality. It's not the fault of tax cuts, youth centre closures, someone being shot or increased human rights. We have seen from the many protests previously then the police do 'go in' but given the mass scale of this and the sporadic and uncontrollable nature of the outbursts they are trying different approaches.

Everyone has a different theory into the cause of these riots and they seem to be something that fits into their political viewpoint. It's Labour's fault because they eroded respect, it's the Conservatives' fault because they cut Police numbers/youth centres, it's Capitalism's fault for creating a rich/poor divide or it's Socialism's fault for creating a sense of entitlement.

The truth is we do not know. I suspect there is no logic or reason. A smaller riot after a Policeman shot a suspect took on a different tone as a copycat riot took place in Enfield and then young people from other regions took to that in order to 'have fun' and steal.

They are a pressure group for civil liberties. They speak out on civil liberties. Their role is not to be balanced to defend the police. It's not hypocritical for them to take that position.

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Look having political arguments does not get to the root of any problems as people can become very passionate about their own views but there is nothing with people having different opinions on how to solve problems.:) :)

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Nice of you to think that.;)

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Jesus......they make me a) want to punch my TFT and 2) I think I need the bathroom....stupid little girls - they have no idea...:rolleyes:

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67 year old man critical in hospital after clashing with rioters last night.

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Link?

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Someone said to me "who needs terrorists when we have our own kids"

it is going to be worse tonight I think. it's going to expand to many cities because in my view it's like a challenge has been laid out to them.
if anything I'd also say that a lot of the public are going to get hurt because of the stand of defending themselves.

you also have to take into account that the way kids think. if someone is doing it somewhere else then they don't want to get a reputation that they didn't join in in their own yard.

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More more more!

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On LBC news, plus a 26 year old shot in his car last night has died.

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http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source...sLV6Fw&cad=rja

Only link I could find

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http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source...KYPwww&cad=rja



A 26-year-old man shot in a car during riots in Croydon has died in hospital.

The Metropolitan Police's Operation Trident began an investigation after the man was found with gunshot wounds to the head in his car on Monday night.

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There are reports of disturbances in West Bromwich with over 200 youths involved.

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Getting reports from a member of the NTHWgaming Clan that its kicking off in Bexleyheath

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The police must hold their nerve tonight and show that this will not be tolerated full stop and if that means we see more robust actions like firing plastic bullets and other means then so be it.

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On that i concur wholeheartedly :tu:

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If anyone dies due to the use of 'non lethal' bullets, this is going to get a whole lot worse, a whole lot quicker.

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violen...sticbullet.htm

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Just had a call from my daughter, it's kicking off in Salford now.

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Depends how they are used, What is your suggestion to combat the thugs if the police DONT use baton rounds ?

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Does not shock me, By which one of the major shops is it, PC world, Currys, Dixons ???:

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Any update on where in Salford its happening?

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Well if you go on the streets hell bent on wanton criminality then you have to face the consequences of your actions.

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Up the road from me :(

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all kicking off in liverpool shops been smashed up

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Keep you head down and stay safe

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Maybe german police can help out?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/08/41.jpg

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Stay safe.

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Salford Precinct area

http://www.blottr.com/breaking-news/...ioters-salford

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

So that would be Salford shopping city.

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66 people charged with burglary

The Association of British Insurers says the cost of the damage in the London Riots has already hit £100 million.

Definitely disturbances happening at East Ham. Two helicopters are overhead and the A112 is closed.

Great that's not a million miles from me

and most annoying for him during this boom time

"The glazier we're filming with has run out of wooden boards."

http://www.lbc.co.uk/page-43379

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The proposed cuts have began i have been told this by DLA themselves in Blackpool as mine is up for renewel and as from 2012 they are bringing in the proposed medicals for DLA side of things to.

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Yeah, that's right.

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?????????????????:erm::D

Wrong thread i think mate.:)

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Yes stay safe and hope you will be ok ;)

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Sky have just shown a clip of some white guy sitting on the group with blood on him - injured in some way...some black youths approach him and help him up....


.....and then go into his rucksack and help themselves.....


...unbelievable.

Edit - and here's the clip: Sky News

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

'Mark Duggan did not open fire at Police'

that's the last thing we need to hear at the moment.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I was wonder what the hell this had to do with DLA as well :erm:

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Has the information now been released or is this you proposing a scenario again

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Yes. it's been released. and it's not me proposing a scenario again.