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I would love to be the person who gets to push the card that topples the rest :)

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I think the truth is that 99% of those who work for Murdoch are decent folk who've done nothing wrong. I'd like to see heads roll amongst those at top who're culpable for wrongdoing and not more scapegoating of the decent many.

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And seeing as he is now in UK jurisdiction, he is rather vulnerable. It is only a matter of time before his presence is required at the local nick.

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Yes l agree with you but its always the ones on the boiler shop floor that get the worse of anything while those at the top of the company tend to get off scotfree.

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And lets hope he is locked away and the keys are thrown in the river.

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And there lies the problem.

There has never been a situation where senior management of any company takes a hit over the hard working shop floor people. Murdock and his cronies will still be getting there pay packets when the workers of the NOTW are applying for there dole.

Wonder if someone will try to make a citizen's arrest on Murdock.

It looks like the daily fail is up to its old tricks as well.
you look any where else and there is not a hint of that story

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The deletion of emails comes from the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-international

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Well if it turns out to be true they will be in serious crap

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Yes l saw the story about the deletion of emails on several newspapers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-2309492.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...of-emails.html

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Possibly interesting - though it is by Polly Toynbee

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ta-old-monster

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14090123

Personally I think Labour need to be less party political about this as their hands aren't clean either..

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I think politicians from all sides will have to change their relationships with the media after all this and then maybe MPs will have to work and campaign harder then the current cosy relationships that they currently have.

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Yes. Party politics would reduce the effectiveness of using the current situation to reduce the power of News International. However they are right to press the government hard on the inquiry and a reformation of the PCC. The government has been slow to reacting to this 'crisis' and up until Wednesday were resisting it.

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Slow and resisting it or getting advice on the best course of action as i said i wouldn't want to be the politician that has to sort all this out because this is going to spill over onto everyone of the partys. This really has the potential to take an apathetic pulbic and completely destroy public interest or faith in politics and the police.

Murdoch would dearly love to do as much damage as he can to this country we have to be careful that we don't hand him the torch to start the fires.

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Sky must be extremely worried. They must have been planning what they would use all that money for from the buyout, Instead now they have a problem with there share price plummeting and the chance of no money :shocked:

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No need to buy tomorrow's NOTW

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/public/home/

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Its free and its still a comic. I feel sorry for the staff who have been shafted by there managers but i dont feel sorry that the bottom dwelling excuse of a paper is shutting down.

The staff should be offered jobs in other areas of the business while the management are sacked and dealt with by the courts if they are found to have been involved with the hacking of peoples phones.

I will not be buying or reading that comic

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NotW was responsible for the death of Diana??

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You can add it to the list ;)

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Where were NOTW when Kennedy was shot? on 9/11? Interesting...

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Think News International still don't get it:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...ide-track.html

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Dont understand why do news of the world have to close for over this phone hacking.

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There is no way to give you a potted history.You are just going to have to visit one of the online news websites and do some reading.There are loads of links in this thread alone so why not read through the last 3/4 pages to find them?

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thanks will do.

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As someone who reads actual comics, I find it offensive that you would class the NotW as one ;)

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:LOL:

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"The world's greatest newspaper"

*facepalm*

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And not one word of an apology. Kind of proves the contempt that Murdoch has for the public.

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News Corporation & Northern & Shell are just self-centered egotistical gits.

It is the last issue of a century old paper and they still need nudity within the first second of opening it to 'sell it'. No room for apologies to the people hacked and affected, or to the public or to the hundreds of employee's loosing their jobs, arrogant gits. As for N&S they're just as bad with the racism and sexism in every article.

At least we have the BBC, one of the few unbias and non-(alternate word for waste) ridden companies left standing.

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Here here now wheres my Dandy and Beano.:D:):D

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I have absolutely no love at all for Rupert Murdoch and his buisiness practices whatsoever.

But for all the current journalisits working on NOTW i feel very sorry these were not the people that did those wicked things Rebekah Brooks/Wade ought to have gone instead, the jobs of the staff have gone whilst she remains to fig leaf the Murdochs which is disgusting. Yesterday Murdoch gave an interview in america in which he said Rebekah Wade had his full support as "He would not push innocent people under a bus" which is exactly what he done to 200 employees hipocriscy of the highest order.

But the NOTW is/was not all bad they had some good scoops.

The cheating pakistani cricketers may have never been caught had it not been for the news of the world and banned,Fergies access for cash to prince andrew,Sarahs Law for Sarah Payne,the snooker player boasting on camera he could throw matches Jeffrey Archer scandal ,ect ect.

As somebody said last night the news of the world had a budget big enough to expose real villains (i am hoping the villains who bought the paper down also get exposed eventually).

Putting aside my personal dislike for Murdoch and his buisness methods i for one will miss the NOTW possibly one of the only people on this thread who will.

Just a pity it was not owned by somebody other then the Dirty Digger.

A paper with a 168 year history that the Murdochs have run into the ground, not recently but 5 years ago.:(

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Well these is the latest media headlines this morning as Rupert Murdoch flies into Britain to stop his ship from sinking.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-paddy-ashdown

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...i-2310041.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-hacking.html

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All bad stuff denphone hopefully his hands will be very full for years to come sorting out the mess his senior managers/previous editor made of the company.:erm:

I bet Camerons sorry he ignored the advice given by both Paddy Ashdown and Alan Rushbridger of the guardian,and instead listened to Uncle Rupert over Andy Coulsons suitablity to be his spin doctor.

Sorry cannot remember his name but a former us president had on his desk "The buck stops here" ie the very top not at NI it would seem.

On another note i notice the usually forthright Kelvin McKenzie seems to have gone missing from the media suddenly,one of Mr Murdochs most biggest cheerleaders very strange er not.

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Yes Kelvin Mckenzie has been nowhere to be seen lately and we all know how big his mouth is and the American President you had on the tip of your tongue who says "The buck stops here" is Harry Truman.

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Ah yes Harry Truman thanks denphone.

Perhaps we could get the sun to put up a £15000 reward to the person who spots Kelvin McKenzie first,i wonder if the police know he is missing.:D:D:erm:

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I think we need someone to put up a reward for the first person to do a citizen's arrest on Murdock.

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*Murdoch

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Yes l have just looked at the article and one hopes in the end that this current crisis is the straw that broke the camels back and finally ended the power of the tabloid press.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...s-2309791.html

Toxic seems so right.

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When Imogen Thomas first came in to the public eye through Big Brother some hacks got in touch with me because they found out I had some photos of her posing in bikini before she had, shall we say, "work done". They were nothing tasteless or erotic, just some pics for competition we were doing for the radio station but eventually my bosses at the time vetoed the idea we had.

So I started getting calls offering me silly money for them but I wouldn't give. NotW offered me the most and they tried all sorts of tactics including saying things like "Don't worry what she'll say or think, she'll be famous and getting paid for it, why not cash in on her celebrity status? If it upsets her she'll get over it.

*******s.

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Hers a interesting article by Paul Mason the Economics editor of Newsnight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14093772

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l expect it to appear on the shelves within the next 4 to 6 weeks as News International will not leave this gap in the sunday newspapers market open for long.

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He'll be going online and ordering a new cheque book at this rate.

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I want the news of the world to stay. Been and got the last 1 today.

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Nice to know that one person supports Murdoch but there won't be many who do and l am among them.:erm:

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When looking at all whats gone on its disgusting the hacking of ordinary people who lost relations. However more concerned of political influence of all this.

I more inclined to fear what has murdock done politically over the years. Like someone said has trust gone from people in the whole polical system. Could this be final nail to after cash for peerage, MP's corruption of expenses and now this.

I am shocked that it goes way back to thatcher period of News Corp influence in politics. Wonder if this should be another investigation in murdock affairs. Has there been any policies made by previous governments to appease murdock empire.

Its seem politics needs a massive clean up for people to trust its not corrupt/unethnical.

Now we come to present how much was Murdocks influince when cameron set purge on quango's. Seem to remember he directly quoted ofcom in his statement about quango's. Is murdock using cameron to get his way to try create a smooth run in trying to buying BSKYB and that ment needing to water ofcom power. I think this needs investigating to make sure no pressure and influence took place.


Did murdock try it on with previous prime ministers although accepted his courtage they made sure it was not a deep relationship to cloud policy decisions or was they too in bed bigtime. If they kept guarded relationship did Murdock think at some point a prime minister naive enough would come along embrase him in big way then he had power. Sadly at present worried about this cosy relationship Cameron has its looking like he's that naive prime minister.

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Kind of surprised at you given your football team allegiance.

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Is an odd choice...

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Indeed every supporter i know of that team will not entertain any paper he produces ?

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Thats true as l am a Liverpool supporter and have never bought a Murdoch paper since that terrible day.

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Well, I am not a Liverpool supporter. Nor will I be buying notw. I will, however, have a celebratory pint if one if thr Murdochs or Brooks gets what they deserve..

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Yes l hope they get totally what they deserve and l shall have a soft drink as l cannot drink alcohol because of my medication.:)

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Tell you what i will have a pint on your behalf :)

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Only one mine as you do not want you to be in trouble with your wife.;):D;)

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what again :LOL:

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It seems, as was suspected, that employing Coulson might not have entirely been Cameron's choice.

And this is the very same editor that the Prime Minister is now supporting.

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Courtesy of Twitter...

(sorry for the source paper)

Monday's Mirror alleges that 9/11 victims were also targeted:

http://twitpic.com/5o9wj1

http://www.mirror.co.uk/2011/07/11/p...5875-23262694/



And a very odd one from the Telegraph archives...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ret-tapes.html

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And here are the latest stories this Monday morning.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...7-2311629.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...from-2007.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ion-les-hinton

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So i take it all your interested in is attacking Cameron and not adding to the debate in any other way.

Considering most of this happened on someone else's watch you seem to have glossed over that ?.

The majority of those contributing to this thread seem to be more interested in what happens next to the paper and staff where as all your interested in is your boring attacks on those you dislike politically.

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So why stoop to Flyboys level.Put him on ignore;)

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The problem for Rebekah and company is that no matter how much they deny any further wrong doing, the fact that so many lies have been uncovered in the last few days is making such assertions seem very unlikely.

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Sorry what is wrong with Flyboy's post? It's relevant to the discussion given that we know there were concerns about Coulson imparted by editors and the Liberal Democrats to the Prime Minister. He also provided a responsibly decent source.

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Anyone heard anymore on whether Dave's going or not?

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to whom are you replying..

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It is a silly name for a channel but I don't think they'll rebrand it yet;)

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:LOL:

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LOL some people really are very good at 'glossing' over large portions of recent political history aren't they... :D I notice just as their predecessors will have done, Mssrs Balls and Milliband joined DC at a grand Murdoch bash in London just last month but of course their motives were entirely different..... :rolleyes:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-murdoch-party

Anyway, Murdoch's suddenly being treated like a highly infectious leper and all the bad news is starting to affect his worldwide business so it'll be interesting to see whether the rot stops with the demise of the NOTW.

http://www.investmentweek.co.uk/inve...-news-corp-bid

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Sirius

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OK.:)

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This is the latest revelation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...king-live.html

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From that conversation, this is perhaps the most revealing example of the culture that exist in tabloids today:

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Absolutely shocking and now we hear that NOTW paid police protection officers for information on the royals.

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Cameron's involvement with those involved cannot be ignored. He is inexorably linked to all characters in this messy performance.

How many more times? The police and News International lied to the government of the day and the PCC was complicit in that cover-up. The reason why Cameron, is being highlighted, is because of his direct involvement with News International. The fact that the current government gave jobs to the disgraced and arranged for employment with Murdoch's companies, for those who had lied.

And if this was Tony Blair or Gordon Brown and the Daily Mirror, you would be as "balanced," would you?

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Therefore it's not unreasonable to extrapolate that they can also lie to the present government and that Coulson has also lied, or at least not been forthcoming with the truth about his involvement, to Cameron?

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:clap:

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Actually yes i would because we were asked to keep the political muck throwing out of the thread by one of the mods.

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This is nothing to do with "political muck-throwing" as you put it, it is at the very least, about the judgement of the Prime Minister. Surely that is something we should all be concerned about and I find it rather disingenuous of you that you are not.

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And this is the latest revelation to just come out and what else will come out in the next few days as this crisis intensifies.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-2311980.html

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I am very concerned that DC apparently gave more credibility to the opinion of Rupert Murdoch than the opinion of high ranking politicians in his own coalition. :(

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...l-gordon-brown

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Jeesh, how far/deep does it go? it's awful

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Although he should have taken head of the warnings from the newspaper editors and the people within the Liberal Democrats.

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I have to agree. Very strange indeed

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The clear issue here is that Rupert Murdoch nefarious influence went to the core of the political establishment in this country and now we must break the 30 year old hold that he has had on this country once and for all because if we don't then we will have failed totally.

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Its shocking just how many papers were involved and should murdoch be closing any paper found to be involved somehow i don't think he will. The NOTW was the sacrificial lamb that was to be used to try and defuse the issue and it now looks like that was a waste of time.

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Agreed

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This surely now has to raise the issue of the Conservative party's election campaign and how much use this hacking was put to, leading up to the elction.

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https://twitter.com/#!/BBCLauraK

These people are sick.

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Well the rumour is now that he could sell the whole of News International to try to get out of this crisis.

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And the Sunday Times http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14112097

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In years to come the dictionary will have the following line

News international = A now defunct media company that was discovered to have hacked almost everyone's phones but there own. :)

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Coughs

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35270987-post400.html

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:LOL:

I stand corrected ;)

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What the world press think of it all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14109531

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How is this woman still in her job?

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There is no limit to how far these people will go to get information to try and destroy people's lives and with that in mind is it any wonder anyone is hesitant about taking them on. I think calling for this or that political leader to explain or be accountable should wait till as much as we can know is known. I have a nasty feeling very few high ranking politicians are going to come out of involvement with rupert murdoch for certainly the last twenty years cleanly.

What is becoming clear is this wasn't one paper or one rogue pi it was endemic it was seen as an ok way to get information regardless of the law and that has to be fully investigated and people prosecuted. Sadly i think we have only scratched the tip of a very large iceberg here there is so much more to come out so many more victims and it is for those i have true sympathy and feelings at this time.

Political axe grinding will come later no worries about that but right now i think the focus needs to be on the victims of this, be they the ones who were hacked or the sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered hoping to put this to bed of which NOTW were the first but i doubt the last.

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I have my ideas but this is a family forum ;)

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Indeed

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She must have something on Rupert and / or James for them to continue to support her.

Who'd have thought the Murdoch's would have closed their top selling tabloid when they had a ready made scapegoat. There's certainly a lot more to this and her.

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Strong words, but I don't think it is wise to throw stones in glass houses.

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Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt says takeover bid by News Corp for BSkyB is to be referred to Competition Commission

I don't think it's a question of competition anymore, more like morales.

Maybe we need a morality commission.

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I have theory about that, regarding plurality. All of this could be an elaborate strategy for Murdoch to actually seize control of BSkyB. One of the major stumbling blocks was his excessive media holdings in the UK. As he has now let the largest part of his newspaper empire to fold, his share in the UK print media has diminished significantly, thus almost eliminating the problem. As we have seen over he last few days, the share price in BSkyB has fallen, by almost twenty percent, in the last couple of weeks, it will cost him considerably less. All he has to do now, is bribe a few OFCOM officials and he will be home and dry. Only a theory, mind. ;)

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Now that i can agree with. Murdoch is a Wiley old fox and has the ability to change the requirements for his buyout of BSkyB and if that means throwing hardworking people on to the dole so be it. Your correct in that he has reduced his holdings in such a way that no matter what is done now he will win.

I really hate Murdoch and all he stands for.

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Yes and l agree with you totally and as the old saying a fox changes his fur but not his habits and Murdoch will do anything to get his hands on BSKYB and this is his latest ploy but l believe it will not Succeed.