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Jacqui Smith has officially lost which we knew was coming for a few hours now.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

With a 13% drop in votes.

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Three changes in Yorkshire to Tories - Harrogate and Dewsbury and Pudsey

Looks like Ed Balls has scraped in

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Charles Clark has lost his seat to the Lib Dems

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Looking more and more like a hung parliament - time for bed soon, as I took today off to write a six thousand word dissertation, and it ain't going to write itself.......

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Hazel Blears has kept her seat

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Lib Dems retained Leeds NW, my constituency - not unexpected, as the guy is a very active and positive local MP, very popular with the student population (considering that most of the 60k students live in this constituency, quite useful); disappointing, but not unexpected.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

I was going to vote for them right up until I got into the booth and noticed their candidate didn't even have the decency to live in my borough so voted Tory instead...

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Hardly, participating in democracy is never wasted no matter who you vote for, oh and they were open till ten ;)

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Brighton Pavilion - first Green MP

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Maybe GB is humming "Should I stay or should I go now? "

Really glad the Cons were not handed the country on a platter, it shows that no amount of whitewash and wishes can dupe the electorate (or something).

Labour FTW! Or LibLab FTW!? (or something)

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

I'd say it had more to do with polling stations closing early and people being denied their democratic rights...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8666338.stm

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I would disagree - it was a few hundred people at a few constituencies, which would not have affected the end result, imho.

But the good new is that Griffin the **** has come third in Barking.

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The same could be said why people haven't voted for Labour, surely?

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

You disagree that hundreds of people being turned away had less effect than a small sign on Punky's polling station ;) I think it stinks and the people involved should make as much noise as possible and sue imo.

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No, I disagree that the amount of voters affected would have made a difference to the end result in those constituencies. Where the polling stations ran out of voting slips is a different matter.

I also think that some people were the architects of their own failure, especially those who stated that they had turned up a number of times earlier but couldn't be bothered queue]ing those times.

Yes, let them sue - they can claim money from the government, plus all the lawyers fees, which will all be funded by the taxpayer....

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So Nick Clegg said he would form a coalition with the party with the most votes and/or the most seats - the Conservatives fulfill both of those criteria.

I wonder what happens next......

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Bed time.............................

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Forcing people to vote is completely at odds with democracy imo but I do agree that if you don't vote you lose the right to moan about the results



Some were in the queue for a couple of hours and so what, as long as your in the queue that should be enough and I bet the Electorial Commision will agree.

Yes let them, they have had their right to vote removed, surely no one would suggest they should have their legal right to do anything about it removed as well.

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No he didn't, he said he'd talk to the party with the most seats/votes first and see if he could work with them. Heard it from Simon Hughes earlier.

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In our country it'll probably mean another election in about a year :(

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That's how it should be imo...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_parliament

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His wife didn't declare large loans to The Assembly that she used to fund her teenage lovers business....

Here's to you Mrs Robinson :erm:

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You don't think he'd make a good next leader of The Labour party then ;)

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Excellent news for me, Warrington South is now a Conservative seat taken from Labour :clap:

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Might be best although IIRC much of The Tory manifesto doesn't actually require Parliament's consent :(

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Yes I think everyone recognised the importance of this election and perhaps gives a glimpse of how sick everyone is of Gordon and his pals although tbh I have been quite impressed with Gordon since he called one of his voters a biggot if he had got his act together earlier he still might be in power today.

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Yeah was a bit of a shock no bounce what so ever, guess we wont be needing tv debates anymore after all.....

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:tu: at that prospect....

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Best result of the night imo

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Good, seemed like they were doing quite well from what I heard earlier, few thousand votes here, few thousand there, gotta be the worst thing about PR, the likes of them getting into Westminster.

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Yes I wounder what the PTB behind each party think, the mess this country should've buried Labour, the fact it didn't means the other leaders should take a good hard look at themselves because others will be behind the sceens that's for sure.

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Seems like across the nation thousands of people eligable to vote were turned away from pooling stations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/elec...s-Britain.html


I would guess that if any of these are in areas where the seats were gained by a very small amount then the runners up will have an argument about "they may have won the seat if only"

One of the problems seems that because of the high turnout polling station ran out of ballot papers.

I think 15hrs is a too short an amount of time to vote and this should be raised to 36 or 48 hours rather than the " I want it now" type of voting.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

It is much longer if you apply for a postal vote. I'll bet there's a significant increase in postal votes in the next General Election... in Ocotber. :D

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I haven't read any further than this yet... but what?!? Who is this "we" that should promptly forget? Cheers for making N.I. part of the U.K. :erm:

In a hung parliment you can find that one seat in N.I. can make a huge difference depending on who that seat chose to 'side' with.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

So now we have a Hung Parliament , what does it mean exactly? Another election?

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Firstly - some horse trading. We actually have to have a government to declare an election.

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Too early to tell as all the results are still not in.

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It's a pity we can't have something like a mistrial..A miselection.:)

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Took me less than two minutes, in and out.

Cannot understand these people still in line at 10pm :erm:

And if they cannot be bothered to wait then that is there lookout/problem

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No, we don't - the Queen can do that all by herself. It's highly unlikely that she will need to though, a bit of horse trading should sort it out before Her Maj has to think about rolling up her sleeves.

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I see Scotland did as Scotland does ... watch which way England's going, then jump in the opposite direction. No change in seats, and an improvement in Labour's share since 2005. :spin:

Cue five years of Wee Eck the Smug whingeing about Scotland being governed by an 'English' party.

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We all have our cross to bear..:erm:

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15 hours is absolutely tonnes of time. It has worked that way for decades and there is no reason why it couldn't have worked this time.

Doubtless there were cock ups, and heads should roll, however it turned out last night that the Angry Old Woman the Beeb interviewed - and replayed endlessly for the next 3-4 hours - had gone down to he local polling station at 6pm and didn't fancy the queue. She went home, had another look at the queue at 7, 8 and 9pm, and only thought it might be a good idea to join the line at 9.15pm. Surprise, surprise, the door was slammed in her face at 10pm, as legally it must be.

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Hung!

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Officially, that is. The results in so far mean it is now mathematically impossible for any party to get an outright majority.

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What - now we get to choose who should be hung? ;)

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If only ... :D

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:) If only it were that simple

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Ofcourse 15 hours is plenty of time, it has worked before, or are we seeing cuts even in the resources at the polling stations?
That can be one of the reasons why 15 hours was not enough to process people wanting to vote.
Anyway, Gawd should now do the right thing, he was not even democratically elected, he should resign and go for a pint with his friend Nick ;)

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

my understanding is minimal but the Liberals aint really got enough to form a coalition with Labour have they? even with their seats it wont take Labour to 326 or does a coalition just need more seats than the other party?

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As I understand it that's pretty spot on. As long as the coalition has the 326 they 'win'. There are still some seats to be declared so I think we're still waiting. If no-one gets that figure I guess we'll have a re-vote.

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No matter how we go forward, Brown has been given a clear message that he's had his chips.

Time to go Gordon.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister at the moment - he remains PM until he decides to resign. Lib/Lab could form a coalition even without an outright majority, and Gord could carry on. The big test would come at the Queen's Speech, when a minority Lib/Lab coalition would have the risk of losing the vote on the speech. That would amount to a vote of no confidence and we would end up with another election straight away.

A Con/Lib coalition would have easily more than 326 seats and so would not have that problem at Queen's Speech time.

IIRC the Queen's Speech must take place within 2 weeks from now.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

At least the squinty eyed fat one and his band of idiots and thugs have bottomed out

I'll have a Marmite sandwich in celebration!

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Weird lot in Brighton Pavilion.... it's like voting in the bnp of the left. :erm:

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I've only ever done the tourist thing in Brighton once ... it was a very ... um ... strange place.

Mung beans all round, anyway, and congratulations to Dr Lucas. Batty they maybe, but her party has made a minor piece of British electoral history.

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Sigh ... it's becoming clear that the idiot in No.10 is digging in his fingernails.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

I am surprised he has any fingernails left!

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Two factors in a re-vote would be the probable absence of student votes in certain areas and the parties/individuals labelled as 'others' might not take part.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

He can't resign otherwise the con/lib majority will probably go ahead so the only option open to him is to struggle on until the queens speech and force a new election ;)

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

And now the squabbling begins in earnest.:(

And I thought the past 6 months had been awful.:banghead:

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

An option open to him is to resign, correct me if I am wrong ? ;)

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It was only going to end in tears, maybe the public debate was not such a good idea ;)

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With all the uncertainty anarchy is breaking out and the crime rate is rocketing.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22240853/

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in number 10 just now as aides cower behind nokia proof glass and try and convince GB it might be best for him to stand aside.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

If he resigns then it's passed over to the other parties to see if they can form a majority or coalition goverment.. If though he takes it all the way to the queens speech I believe it's an automatic election

(may be wrong as I normally stay away from politics)

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

So is another election likely?

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Clegg is sticking to his view that the Tories have first right to try to form a government.

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... but he is also reinterating that he wants electoral reform. The sting in the tail.

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Nick really has chucked a hand grenade into the middle of events. :D

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Looks like he is an honorable man as he has been saying this from the start.

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He's the one I really feel sorry for in all of this. He and his party deserved better.

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The fact that some woman, who has no connection with the British electorate, who has never even asked them if they want her in the big house, could get to decide who runs the country.....and they talk about electoral reform.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

I see your view of our constitutional monarchy is as distorted as your view of Liebour's 'achievements' in office.

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Bye bye, Gorgeous George ...

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George Galloway fails to win the seat he was after :D

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British politics is well rid of him.

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So will Cameron give electoral reform and if not will Clegg support him?

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I wonder if he is going to salute the winners courage, strength and indefatigabilty :rolleyes:

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That, as they say, is the million dollar question right now.


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Perhaps not ... but with any luck he will now take himself off to Iraq and see if he really can get himself elected as the member for Baghdad North. :D

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

You are assuming a lot..especially the bit where you actually think we don't want her.We need her as a back stop against dictators.:rolleyes:

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:clap:

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Well said

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The BNP didn't even get second in Barking.

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In a lot of areas around West Yorkshire the BNP is the fourth biggest party.

Anyway, I think a Conservative/LibDem coalition would be an interesting prospect.

The would obviously be conflicts over such things as Electorial Reform and Trident, but we could end up with a decent team.

Cameron PM
Cable as Chancellor
Haugue as Foreign Secretary
Clegg as Home Secretery.

I could go for that.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

:clap:

One guy on the radio said "i went at 7.00 pm and there was a que so i went back at 9 and then joined the que and did not get in" It does not take the brains of an arch bishop to work out if he had joined the que at 7.00pm he would have got his vote. What a numpty

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

LibDems just taken Brent Central.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Sarah Teather has kept her seat. Opps gained it.

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Pleased to see that.

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Did you see the picture? It was a joke regarding the placing of the sign over one with "Don't do it" still clearly visible.

And I posted it at 11:21am.

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You can't stop dictators with another dictator. All you get is another despot. How can the democratic process be fairly served by relying on an unelected monarch?

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Cameron to make a statement at 2.30pm, aiming to make a "strong and stable Government" - but Liebour is offering Clegg PR, albeit their dreadful, not-really-PR AV system.

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Cameron will make a statement at 2:30 on how he will form a government.

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They can't offer it though. They don't have enough seats.

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Because, if it comes to the crunch, if the electorate haven't been decisive and the politicians can't work things out, she is the only truly impartial person in the entire country. That is what she has been brought up to be, if not from the day she was born then from the day her uncle Edward abdicated and placed her in direct line to the throne.

I wouldn't swap our constitutional monarchy for any elected president, anywhere in the world, right now.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Cameron needs to just take the initiative. Why not offer reform for the house of lords, an elected 2nd chamber?

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Impartial my butt. The most elitist person in the nation, having to chose which is the most elitist party in parliament; hmm.....can't imagine where her sympathies lay.

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I thought he had strongly ruled that out during this whole campaign. Can't see Clegg trusting him on that now.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Well the people of my town are idiots with a short memory.:rolleyes:

the last time the where in every service was cut and the council tax went up.

Well the results shows that the public don't want GB or DC running the country.

Also I felt that NC would side with whatever party had the most votes regardless of whom they were.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

If all you have to base your view on is naked class prejudice, there isn't really any basis for a reasonable discussion here. Especially on the non-issue of republicanism for the UK.

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BTW, some of the BBC correspondents are machines. Andrew Neil, Jeremy Paxman have been going all night and not a hair out of place.

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Earth calling moonbase, Earth calling moonbase ... that is exactly what's going to happen over the next couple of years. And it was always going to happen, regardless of which party gets No.10 today. That has been abundantly clear for months now: how have you managed to miss it?

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

I'm sorry but you have 15 hours to votes, even if you work you have the morning and evening.

If you can't be bothered to queue an missed the 10pm deadline TOUGH.

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My council tax always goes up.

And its not that people don't want GB or DC, but that its so tight. I just wish we could have a run-off.

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Moonbase calling Earth, Moonbase calling Earth ... under Labour my town has been run without problems, and when the Tories run this town the words "Can't organise a P'up in a brewey" come to mind.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

You could be imagining wrong. The Queen is not allowed to express any political views. I also believe that she no longer has any real power apart from one. She can (under certain circumstances) dissolve the government and force an emergency general election. I believe this is probably what Chris was referring to when he said she was a stop gap.

Having said that, I vaguely remember reading somewhere she is actually a Labour supporter in private. If the rumours are correct, she certainly did not like Margaret Thatcher.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Yeah, a run of beachy head :D

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Talk about voter apathy - over 5000 views of this thread, and only 111 votes. For shame people :D

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That's why I don't understand why so many people had problems. I knew that due to work and various other commitments, I would not be able to vote yesterday evening or for most of the day. So, I went in and voted before work. My local Polling station was nice and quiet at 7:45am.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

The Monarch has some powers, I heard last night, this morning (can't remember when as I was up til 4am). that King George V stepped in in 1924.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

LOL, I love Boris Johnson.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Brilliant - it's taken far too long to wheel him out. :D

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Agreed

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Yes, that would be becuase they run it spending money they haven't got.

So now history repeats itself that Labour have spent, spent, and spent some more so we're all on the edge of a financial abyss.

Hard choices for any government, I'm keen to see if Cameron and Clegg can work something out. For a couple of years at least.

I think if it went to re-election Lib-Dem would lose out even more.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

still in other good news, Esther Rantzen didn't get in , and she only got around 1000 votes...

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Roffle ... Boris has the entire BBC Election studio in stitches.

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I don't think not liking Thatcher would make her a Labour supporter. I have never heard the rumour that she is, to be honest, but I cannot see her siding with Labour, in opposition to a party made up of old Etonians.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

For all your fine words, how disappointing to find that underneath it all you're just a class-warring old dinosaur. Pity.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

watching and reading the news, I get the feeling that NC is going to form a coalition with the party that sticks it tongue up his backside the furtherist

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Apparently some "senior" Tories are criticizing Cameron's campaign and saying that won't do deals with the Lib Dems.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

its possibly the same 11 keep viewing the page. Lets face it politics is not the most interesting of subjects is it

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Suprised by that. A coalition isn't ideal but i'd have though that a Con-Lib coalition could work as they is a bit of middle ground.

Things like rights, terror laws, ID cards, etc is a good starting point. If Clegg could agree that horse-whipping the rich isn't the best way of getting money to flow downwards, and if DC could agree to to help the environment and the economy by stimulating green business... I think something could be done.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Clarification of the above; They won't do deals regarding electoral reform.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

Problem seems to have been in city areas with insufficient polling stations to cope with the number of voters. Rural areas do not have the same issues as there are more polling stations needed to cover the geographical area.

Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll
 

The Tories have to give something, they won't have a majority. It's simple. I think Cameron would be willing too but from some of the vibes coming from the BBC senior Tories don't want it.

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Statement on voting problems at the UK general election



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Some mobile video footage from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8667916.stm