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Ah! I looked at the qualifying time :)
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if i am awake i will watch it in the bedroom but it is on record on my sky plus
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Virgin to redesign car because fuel tank is too small http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8588379.stm |
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I'll bet that will come back a mile two extra on the clock. ;) |
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Well qualifying has started, anyone else stupid enough to be up and watching it??
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Assuming the car stays together, Seb's got to be the favourite for the win tomorrow. Wouldn't rule Webber out though.
Anything, anybody other that Alonso. |
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Hope your all sitting comfortably, build-up starts in around 15 mins (my body clock woke me up an hour before it needed too) :(
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LOL, as soon as I saw the time of your post I had a feeling you were an hour early :D
I forgot to set the alarm (even though I set all the clocks forward) but body clock woke me up at 6:33 :D ---------- Post added at 06:55 ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 ---------- Looks like possible rain in 15 minutes :) good as a wet race is normally an exciting race ---------- Post added at 07:04 ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 ---------- Errr... Does Alonso know which way he's supposed to be going??? :D ---------- Post added at 07:06 ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 ---------- SC out and Sch needs a new front wing :) As I said..Wet race and the excitiment starts :D:D:D ---------- Post added at 07:09 ---------- Previous post was at 07:06 ---------- KOY smacks a wall and takes out Hulkenberg.. |
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You can't call this race boring.
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OMG... Hamilton & Webber playing in the gravel after that late brake by Alonso :D
---------- Post added at 08:38 ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 ---------- Well done Button for the win, Kubica second (could have been hamilton if they didn;t give him the 2nd pitstop but hindsight is a you know what :D ) and Massa third |
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Forget all the tinkering with the cars and pit stops, just arrange for rain to fall at random times at every race. ;)
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Well done to Button, Kubica and Massa, as to to rest of what I want to say........well that would be my comments surrounding Alonso, and forum rules/decency prevent me from posting them.
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yep if it rains we may get a randomly interesting race but once its dry its follow the leader again
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What a difference some rain makes!
Much better race, congratulations to Jenson Button, Robert Kubica and Fellipe Massa for there podiums. Brilliant call by Button to come in early for the tyre change, unlucky for Vettel, reliability is seriously hampering Red-Bulls ambitions. Is it just me or is Lewis Hamilton coming across as petulant, arrogant and immature lately. He seems to wan`t to blame this and that all the time rather than just knuckling down and doing the job. Like when he caught the Massa, Rosberg and Alonso train (admittedly after a pit-stop which he didn`t need to make), because he couldn`t just waltz past he was on the radio complaining about his tyres, the same tyres that were a second or two quicker just a lap prior :confused: Surely he should have figured it was the turbulent air causing his care to be unstable and then just waited to pick his moment. I`m not saying he had a bad race, some of the passing was phenomenal, maybe it`s the fact he now has a team mate who is up there with him like when Alonso was at Mclaren and he doesn`t like it! Come on Bernie, fit sprinkler systems at all the Grand Prix tracks, it`s what the spectators wan`t :D |
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As for Hamilton you can't realy blame him, Mclaren brought him in for the 2nd stop and Lewis was under the impression that everyone would be making a 2nd stop, hence his query over the radio |
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I thought it was Button who made the decision for the tyre change
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The driver can't make the final choice, he puts forward his choice and the team boss OK's the decision or not.. Hence in this case it was a late decision
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Officially no ;) You know what I mean, he can't decide that he will get tyres, otherwise we might as well sack the team bosses and tacticians :D
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Well Martin Whitmarsh said that it was Jenson's choice, so Jenson's choice it was. Putting it any other way is just semantics:). Also he didn't decide he was going to get tyres, he merely decided when he wanted them, added to the fact he/everybody started on intermediates only he would know if the combination of track condition and his own driving style at a given point would be compatible with slick tyres.
As to Hamilton, I would agree that he seems to have developed his arrogant streak more, I put it like that as IMHO he's always had it. It's just with his dad not managing him anymore I get the feeling that there's nothing to supress it. .........and when is Mark Webber going to learn to drive, or is he practicing for the kamekaze version of F1. I'm just gratefull that Alonso showed himself up at the start, and that he didn't cause any damage to JB. |
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As for Jenson's early pit, he (Jenson) called it and team principle allowed it so its down to Jenson, an excellent call and he should and will get all credit for it (hopefully) Also hats off to HRT & Chandhok, giving the new poor boys their first finish, be it 5 laps down, a great drive from Karun. |
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Well done Jensen, I am about to order some sauce for my hat, but I won't be eating it just yet; one win doesn't make a champion. ;)
I don't blame Lewis for being royally pee'ed off. Screwed on strategy and shafted by Webber, not a great combination. That said, his performance up to then was exemplary. He clearly has the pace and drive to achieve his goals this season. What a great race as a whole, even after the wet start, the pressure stayed on for the top ten. It has been a long time since we have seen so much overtaking. As for Schumacher....oh dear! :p: |
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schumacher actually was still overtaking people when the others were not ;)
not bad as he came out worst from the initial crash and did the test tire change for the team and everyone else but again with out the rain it wouldn't have been much different to last time as as the track dried the over taking dried up too |
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It shows though how the new regs can effect a race.. HAM, ROS, WEB all went for a third set of tyres and were effectively 2 secs a lap faster than MAS, ALO who stayed out... If WEB/HAM hadn't of had that coming together then I think that HAM would have had at least 3rd before the end of the race.
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Hamilton overtaking to gain track position to fourth place, was quite a while after the track dried.
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Wasn't Webbers fault and Alonso had the racing line.. Just wrong place wrong time and Webber being on the blind side of hamilton to see what Alonso did
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Webber was reprimanded for the accident apparently - third last paragraph
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8591447.stm |
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Really suprised at that, he was following Hamilton through and got caught unawares... Oh well
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I reckon Mclaren hedged their bets by leaving one car out and bringing one in. Lewis` tyres may have been ok at the point he was brought in but in maybe another 10 laps they could have been shot, he`s not the easiest on his tyres.
Still i think he has to look back and think himself lucky to get any points as that was quite a shunt he got from Webber who i still can`t believe made a stop for a new nose yet still beat Schumacher ;) Whoever made the call got it right allthough it could have backfired, Jenson was lucky to go off where he did! |
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He deserves credit for keeping it on the rack and winning the race, whoever made the call simply got lucky that there was no more rain..Which is why I believe that even after what's been said someone else made the final call as they would have had to have had the weather information.
On a different note anyone looking forward to BTCC starting next weekend? I find it's a great light hearted racing with some great action and fills in the F1 free weekends |
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think this race once again showed what the main problem with F1 is. When the track is damp it is down to the drive to find the grip and work out how much power, braking to use lap after lap. There is no data or engineer who can tell the driver this.
As soon as the track is dry the engineers can look at the data and an someone who has never driven an F1 car can then tell a driver when to use the power, brake etc. This is why I don't feel Massa should have been world champ as too much of his driving is done outside the car. Take that away and we have more human element and more chance to have some proper racing |
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Yep I remember the complaint... Amazing how he was +2 a lap just before that comment.. As the commentators said "It's just dirty air"
Trying though to guess a hypothetical outcome where everyone could be right though doesn't change the result.. |
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I think LH was just getting frustrated and blamed the tyres for not being able to pass. I think if he did or dropped back and had clean air the tyres would be fine.
Just the usual case of drivers always moaning if they don't win |
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He's the driver he can feel when the grip is starting to return to the track. They have sophisticated wether monitoring equipment so they knew it wasn't going to rain heavily again - not luck. Jenson gambled to get the jump on everyone else, as you saw as soon as the other teams could see Jensons times everybody made a dive for the pits causing congestion and extending pit times. It was all about who had the balls to go for slicks first, and Jenson did. I agree that Mclaren hedged their bets by making Hamilton pit, and it nearly paid off. He should have been able to get past at least one of the Ferraris. If he'd stayed out there's no guarantee that he would've got 2nd. Jenson has showed that not only can he conserve his tyres that he can still get performance out of them without killing them. We don't yet know if Hamilton can do that. |
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Actually reading more into it his choice was NOTHING to do with the rain, the drying track or the risk of going on slicks, he himself states that his intermediates were shredded hence he wanted new tyres and the team agreed with him..
:p: ;) :D As for Hamilton v Jenson they're two very different drivers.. Both have different advantages and weaknesses |
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Virgin Racing have a bit of a cockup on their cars, the fuel tank is 13 litres too small which means the car won't have enough fuel to finish the next 2 races without reducing speed!
The chassis of the car will have to have a serious redesign and won't be ready until May at the earliest. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8597445.stm |
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Already posted last friday
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34987892-post404.html ---------- Post added at 23:33 ---------- Previous post was at 22:44 ---------- Practice/qualifying/race times for this weekends Malaysian F1 grand prix are as follows Quote:
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Could be that Webber has some overheating problems in practice 1.
Also mirrors are to be moved to cockpit for safety reasons from China onwards, |
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Well the only excuse for mirrors on outboard pylons is purely aerodynamic..
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wonder how this will affect the teams. The cars are designed like that from the start and moving them now could cause huge aero problems for them.
Why not get rid of the mirrors as they can't see much anyway. That way they can't block and weave about in front of cars |
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Also means that every car trying to overtake would mean two less cars on the track ;) We're trying to encourage overtaking not make it suicidal :p:
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Is this gonna affect the Red Button coverage, i.e. TV and 5-Live coverage? |
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red button is on 30* (freeview) so it's counted as a seperate channel, will probably be continuous
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Final practice news
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It's on BBC1 until an Easter Sunday program, then it switches to BBC2. It isn't on BBC2 from the start because of Match of the Day, which obviously isn't live, but for some reason HAS to be on TV then.
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EJ needs to use antipersperant or wear a shirt that doesnt show sweat lol!
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Has Eddie been for a swim? Or just not an antiperspirant kinda guy... ;)
EDit: Great minds |
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Doesn;t matter now, it's peeing down at the track with 7 minutes before qualifying
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Who'd be a team leader. ;)
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Really really bad calls by Mclaren and Ferrari to not send their drivers out for a banker lap. These are supposed to be 2 of the best teams out there yet they make a fundamental mistake like this :confused:
Fair enough Lewis could and should have made it through if he hadn`t had that last corner moment but still you have to question the logic that was used. It was only qualie 1 for pete`s sake, after last year you would have thought they might have learned a thing or 2...........It seems not :dozey: Awesome lap by Webber, fully deserved pole :tu: |
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agree big mistake from both the top teams and they did it with BOTH cars FFS.
Lets hope they can have storming drives through the field and we get some decent racing because of this. Rosberg again beat Schumacher even in the rain which either means Rosberg is great or Schumacher is rubbish and still finding his feet |
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Plus Rosberg has allways been pretty quick, just never had the right tools ;) Actually no i think your right, Schumacher is rubbish! Please everyone do a rain-dance tonight (in Malaysia`s direction obviously):D |
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Think the jury is still out on MS |
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45 minutes till the start, any predictions??
I think that redbull could actually have thier first win this season if it's a totally dry race, otherwise Kubica if it's wet.. ---------- Post added at 08:26 ---------- Previous post was at 08:16 ---------- I missed this news in the last few days but USF1 has officially ceased operations http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/cha...l?surround=lfn |
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On a lighter note :D
My wife & I were having a conversation yesterday about DC & his white jeans. I said yesterday "you watch EJ will be wearing them tomorrow as they have one pair between the 2 of them" and low & behold today its EJ's turn :D |
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I'd like to nominate Alonso for Man of the Race... For a guy with a gear change problem he's done fantastically!!
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LOL.. I feel the same about Jenson, but in the end it's how they perform on track
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Quick question(sort of), do you think that Alonso stressed the car too much, taking into account the problem that he knew it had, do you think he could have managed it better? |
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I think it's a fine line between keeping his position and managing his engine all compounded due to the problem.. The final fault he simply could not have known and if he had nursed his engine would he have even been in the points???
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I don`t think it was wise of Alonso to make a move like he did when you have downshift problems. Maybe the team told him it was going so he thought why not, i reckon he should have just held station behind Button and if he made a mistake take the place.
Maybe the stress put on the engine braking so late, coupled with the downshift problem caused something to pop that wouldn`t have done otherwise. You never know, at the end of the season a couple of points could make all the difference :angel: Red-Bull where in a class of there own :Sprint:, congrats to Vettel, Webber, and Rosberg for there podiums :group: |
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Mind you that's not the only thing that helps you win.. Look at MS, boring a driver as you can find but he didn't make mistakes and as such won |
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Go on Felipe Baby! :) |
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Hats off to the McLarens though. For Lewis to move up fourteen places, only to be held up by Sutil, can't be that bad.
My opinion of Schumacher still stands; passed it. ;) |
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Wouldn't mind one of these!
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Thanks Mr Bo, I have passed this on to my operations manager to asses its validity and possible use. If the bids stay reasonable, I might give it a go.
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Quite cheap atm, one of the trailers was ex-prodrive which then went to BAR and onto honda/Brawn.. When sold originally to BAR it was for quite a sum ;)
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I thought about bidding but it's a bit excessive for my kart :)
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It could potentially pay for itself in my business, just adding an extra service to my clients.
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Oops :shocked:
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OMG!!!
. . . Times (BST) for qualifying and the race is: Q = 07:00 Race = 08:00 |
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Flyboy9 and I watched this earlier today and the two of us could not resist a little chuckle, when Sebastian continued to steer the car, after the two front wheel had fallen off. :)
Should the wheels not have been tethered to the car? |
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Q1 is just about to start, lets see if McLaren can mess it up yet again :rolleyes:
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Yep, Lewis's last flying lap seemed to have a few problems, besides the false neutrals he was locking a tyre or two up in a couple of corners as well
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Wow those Red-Bulls look seriously planted, it`s as if at times their on rails!
Imagine if they had a Mercedes or Ferrari engine in them :Sprint: What`s the odds on another procession race tomorrow, with Vettel and Webber shooting off and leaving a car train behind. Surely the Chinese government could muster up a rain machine :D |
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........and the arrogant Spaniard jumps the start and gets a penalty.
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10 laps to go and WHAT A RACE :)
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