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I was responding to the post which made it sound like all Asian families are dead set against whites being introduced in to the fold, which is complete crap. I'm got no doubt some Asian families wouldn't like it but that's only worthy of being mentioned if no white UK families objected to a son or daughter dating an Asian.

There are racists on both sides but using generalisations like that will quickly get shot down by examples such as mine.

There are obvious cultural differences that I've experienced, and a level of suspicion which relates more to my intentions for Kym but they'd be like that with any man she met.

I have not experienced any hostility from them at all.

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It's total and utter bollards in the same as way as it's total and udder bollards the other way around.

My mates dad was 'racist' towards me at first. both him and his 2 sisters were embarrassed on his behalf.

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Did you bother to read the generalisation I was responding to? If so then I see little.....actually no point at all in you posting that.

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No Chris i was simply pointing out to Russ that just because he hasn't experienced any anymosity from his OH's family doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Don't try to put meaning into my posts that isn't there ,if i mean to say something then i will say it

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A point about Old Nick's comment It states in this article that
and in this article Edgar Griffin, Old Nick's dad, states
So, if he did two years National Service (it was called conscription during the war, not National Service) which ended in 1948, that means he started his National Service in 1946 - didn't the war end the year before?

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point taken ,having re-read both posts you are correct Chamoan's post is the sweeping generalisation and thus incorrect

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I doubt even Griffin meant all. I'm sure most of us thought he couldn't mean all.

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i'm sure that one of the major papers will dig out any war records and plaster this error on their front page by sunday including all details of his expulsion from the conservative party
if this is an "error" on nicks part then it's going to cost him dearly
lieing about your fathers past to make him appear heroic whilst critising anothers for standing by his beliefs is a disgrace in my eyes

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Speaking of generalisations......:D

I didn't realise you spoke for "most of us", Gary.

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Now you see, if I was being accused 24/7 of being racist, a nazi and a holocaust denier then I'd do my best to choose my words very carefully when trying my best to prove I was none of the above.

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It doesn't say I do, Richard.

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I bet Madge is a fully paid up member of the BNP.

http://www.sitcom.co.uk/benidorm/images/char_madge.jpg

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Sorry, missed that in all the Gary bashing....

Cameron said that "too many twits make a ****." referring to Twitter.

That is what i thought he had got right.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7CcTz37Yfs

:D

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400 jews murdered in eastern europe !?! Sweet jebus Flyboy, have you ever read anything about the Einsatzgruppen's actions ? Considering Sonderkommando 4a, along with various german police units killed 33,771 jews in a period of 2 days at Babi Yar (outside Kiev), then you really need to go read some history.... :erm:

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LMAO that has brightened up my Fri evening.

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Watch 'the bloody apprentice' one. that's really funny :)

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Quite apart from the bickering, one point was very well made, the fact that the BNP gained 1 million votes. I believe thats because no other party has the guts to openly comment on the current immigration status, & that it is out of control.

The BNP are a dead loss. Unelectable. For the moment.

Racial tension, political correctness, & the fear of upsetting foreigners is rife in Britain. The situation cannot continue. Control must be maintained, or there is no control.

I hope one of the main parties broach these issues, campaign, & regain control, governing as they should, for the benefit of the people in this country. That includes anyone not native to Britain, irrispective of colour or creed, but has come here for a better life, to add their culture to ours. Not for the benefit of others, who wish to change our laws, or culture.

The situation will only get worse, & will continue to decline untill someting is done. As long as these issues continue to dominate our life, the BNP will gain in strength.

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I don't think that's what Flyboy thinks. Nick made a comment on QT about a radio intercept that mentions 400 innocent Jews being massacred. Nick claimed that this evidence made him change his mind about whether or not the Holocaust took place. Before he saw this evidence, he did not believe there was a holocaust. Afterwards he did. He seems to have trouble with the numbers though.

Flyboy was just stating what Nick had mentioned.

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That's probably Nick having problems with the numbers again. :)

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Trouble is though, he would have been twenty-three in nineteen forty-five and probably would have been conscripted, by then.

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I think you have misinterpreted the exchange between myself and Mr Angry.

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Well people would be better off not trusting Labour on the issue. According to Tony Blairs adviser and speech writer, uncontrolled mass immigration was intended all along.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...r-adviser.html

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Scary.

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There is nothing wrong with a multi-cultural country but I do get Griffins comments about the indigeonous inhabitants of this island are becoming less of a majority be it through migration and\or immigration. Labours stance on immigration has been and will always be appaling. Maybe it is time to grow a pair and tell the rest of the world "you want in? proove you need to be here" rather than the open borders policy we have had in recent years.
Find the illegal immigrants, round them up and send them home without the ££££'s or $$$$'s that tax payers fill their pockets with which incidently would be enough to fund their illegal return to the UK.
Economic migrancy to the UK from other area's especially the "newer European members" has put and is still putting a strain on this countries resources.
So maybe its not Nick Griffin we need due to his extreme right views but a party that has the balls to stand up to labours "open doors" policy.

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Yep it was gonna happen anyway....

More than a fifth of the public would consider voting for the British National Party, according to the first opinion poll taken since the appearance of its leader, Nick Griffin, on Question Time.

Support for the party has increased in the last month, a survey for The Daily Telegraph indicated.

The findings will lead to accusations that the BBC’s decision to invite the far-Right MEP on to its flagship current affairs programme may have backfired by giving him a national platform.

The YouGov poll was taken hours after Mr Griffin’s appearance on Thursday, before which anti-fascist protesters rioted outside BBC Television Centre in London.

The survey found that 22 per cent of voters would “seriously consider” voting for the BNP in a future local, general or European election. This included four per cent who said they would “definitely” consider voting for the party, three per cent who would “probably” consider it, and 15 per cent who said they were “possible” BNP voters.

Two-thirds said they would not consider voting for the party “under any circumstances” with the rest unsure.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...oting-BNP.html

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The numbers are very soft. Only 4% say they would definitely consider voting for the party and two-thirds saying never. To be honest what the BNP are about has been exposed again and again. If people still want to vote them despite their views on mixed-race couples and the idea of kicking out everyone who wasn't born here and trying to get those of a different colour to 'leave'. Then there we go.

Imagine if they actually won power? So many professionals gone. NHS seriously understaffed you won't be able to find a doctor. I thankfully have the means to go to Europe so part of me hopes it happens so the white-elite can have their country.

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it would be interesting to see what the actual question asked was
was it "will you be voting for the BNP in the next election"or
"would you CONCIDER voting for the BNP in the next election" or

2 very similar questions 2 very different meanings in the answer

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I think that says it all really.
People feel pressured not to speak out on the issue of how many we allow in to this country.
If they do speak out, it is more often than not twisted by the other side,they are called Racist, simply because they are concerned at the amount of people in this country, the drain on the system.
Labour appear to have no balls, no spunk, and so the situation continues.
Meanwhile, the people who have had issues decide that the only time they can get their say is at the polls.
Hence why the BNP pulled so much of the vote.
It is not rocket science.
The feelings of the people come out in the end, some may find that distasteful, but as much as there are people who find it distasteful, there are going to be those that feel that the door needs closing.
Calling people Racist for having their say is not going to help, in the end what will happen will happen.

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I don't think they are soft, you forgot to add the 3% that's probable to and failed to factor in the number of people that are to ashamed to admit they are going to. Just about the only reason I can think of to be glad we dont have PR in Parliment.

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I understand people's frustrations about being unable to speak out for fear of being called racist, but how that is justification for voting for a blatantly racist party is beyond me.

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Already been posted earlier in this thread.

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Thank you - post deleted.

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"English" people first? And what about those people residing in Wales, Scotland, & Northern Ireland? You do realise, don't you, that the United Kingdom is comprised of more than just England.

Besides, the BNP would not "look after the English people first", they would "look after the white people first", or, to be even more specific & accurate, they would "look after the able-bodied heterosexual white people first".

Heh :D

I like the "Downfall" one ;)

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People who find themselves unable to voice their opinions, because of the fear of being branded "Racist" will use the ballot box instead. The main parties have consistently failed to address the problem. Hence the increase in BNP votes.

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You miss my point. Why would people who are genuinely not racist vote for people who are? Or is it simply a matter of protest vote?

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I watched this prog, and to me it was a hatchet job on Griffin, and lets put it this way, the BNP will get bigger, not from my vote though, but you have to agree with some of what he has been saying. Most of the panel were throwing daggers at him, he has a legal party and entitled to say what he has to say, like all the other parties, who say a load of crap.

This country HAS to close the door on people coming into this country, We have alway say to immagrants 'come on in, everthing is free' It made me laugh when one of female pannelist said 'people can come into this country to help the enconomy' l don't know what planet she was on, most of the people that come into the country, go straight onto the benefit system, and we pay that.

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My cousin posted this on facebook, I had to share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvk...layer_embedded

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Arthur, you may find this research article from University College London of interest - it states and
Please bear in mind this is not produced by a political party or a pressure group, but by academic researchers.

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No one is disputing that we need to have an open and frank debate on immigration but voting for the bnp is not the way to get that and never was. They are not interested in the fears of the everyday person they are ignorant scared insecure little people who play on people's fears but care as much about them as any other politician. Anyone who thinks that the UK would be perfectly fine under bnp rule is deluding themself because their hatred doesn't just stop at non whites it is in many other areas as well and would affect nearly everyone in this country.

Immigration is a grown up issue and needs a debate by sensible people with sensible solutions we don't need to bring the angst ridden teenagers of politics into it with their me me me attitude and completely unrealistic policys and ideas. As a protest vote in mid term elections or even euro elections i can understand people voting for the bnp but in a general election we have to use our brains and our common sense a little more or we may just look back on the politicians we have now with fond memories in years to come.

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Yes but that is only about EU immigrants from European countries.

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Hi Foreverwar, thanks for that, BUT you must appreciate that the UK is bursting at the seams, and we MUST now close the door on anymore people coming into this country BOTH main parties will always say that
'any immagrants that come into this country will only benefit the economy of this country' which is total nonsense. It is true, that Britain is no longer British, you cannot do anything or say anything without offending people, and this great country of ours has a freedom of speech, sadly you cannot do that anymore.:)

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It is not true that Britain is no longer British, as 92% of the population are classified as "White British".

Oh no, we are outnumbered 1 to 9!

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If you are born in England why do we have to put White British instead of White English.

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Arthur not every immigrasnt into the UK is detrimental to us fgs look at the number of immigrants that keep the nhs going or any number of other areas where immigrants are happy to do work most people born here won't do. It really isn't as simple as to "shut the door" no matter how many times someone says it is and while immigration is at the minute a complete mess being used well in some areas by the likes of the bnp to gain support this is a complicated issue that requires a lot of thought into solving it for the benefit of all.

Immigration is what the bnp are using right now to gain support as they know it is a genuine fear many have and rightly so in many cases but they do not represent the solution to this problem nor any others that affect us and need resolving. One million people may have voted for the bnp in the euro elections but i would bet money most of them didn't scratch the surface of the bnp and what they really stand for they listened to them about immigration and mp's expenses as that was a major elecion talking point for the bnp in those elections.

Those people are not racist they are not all ignorant or stupid for voting bnp they made a protest and did so without fully reasling who they voted for that won't be the case at the next election as who and what the bnp are is coming out into the mainstream and rather then them increase their vote in the general election i fully expect to see it go down.

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Probably because so many people seem to think it means the same thing, those who print official forms assume you don't mind.

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Arthur, not for the first time on this forum, you are talking complete arse.

The island of Great Britain is NOT 'bursting at the seams'. We have about 95,000 square miles to live in. Sadly, successive governments have followed highly centralist policies which have led to Greater London (area 600 square miles) having a greater population than the whole of Scotland (area approx. 30,000 square miles). It's not just confined to Greater London, the whole of the southeast of England suffers similarly. That part of Great Britain now has, in parts, just about the highest population density of anywhere in Europe.

There is plenty of room for us to bring in as many desirable immigrants as we please. However the government needs to start seriously looking at the long term planning issues that have encouraged both native and immigrant populations to gravitate towards the southeast of England. This is starting in some areas - the BBC for example has moved a lot of its production out of London and will move a whole lot more out when it moves its main base to Manchester. But there is room for a whole lot more.

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I was born in England and therefore I am English and any form I fill in should have that option.

What about you being Welsh are you happy to tick the White British box or should it not be White Welsh.

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Interesting article foreverwar ,it doesn't however seem to take into account the effect on local economy and social housing when immigrants are placed or choose to live in one area of the country i.e Newcastle -west road ,benwell ,cruddas park instead of being spread about ,it also doesn't take into account immigrants who don't claim any benefits but don't pay taxes and work in the black market using false identities but still getting health care .I don't think that legitimate immigrants are the main problem it's the one's who arrived claiming asylum and then disapeared asimilating into society within a matter of months

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Yeah, how dare they want to live close to people of similar tastes and experiences. I mean, it's not as if ex-pat Brits like to live in white ghettos and refuse to learn the local language, is it ...

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why do recipients of these forms need to know if we are white or black anyway? ,i always wondered
i cannot think of anything that is unique to blacks or white or white british/brown british and so on

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Perhaps because, excepting for sport, we are recognised internationally as UK/British citizens - my passport says "British Citizen".

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Chris sometimes you can be a real plonker,

the examples in newcastle i gave are not unique to newcastle this sort of concentration of immigrants happens in all the major cities and is detremental to proper intergration and mixing of the different cultures .Instead what happens as in the west road area or little india as it is now known we get 90% asian population which inturn leads to a seperate culture arising in that area .

If these immigrants are comming to this country for a better life than they would otherwise get in their own country then they should accept that they cannot have everthing their own way ,We should not encourage asians or poles or whatever culture to group together or what was the point of them comming here ?

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Because, in the past (shock, horror, hard to believe I know), people were discriminated against just because they came from another country or were differently tinted, skin-colour wise; if it was recorded on official forms (including employment), it would be easier to analyse statistics about these things.

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As Chris pointed out before, how is this different from UK ex-pats in Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, et al, all living in the same areas?

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Why thank you. :rolleyes:

It seems to me that you think the main benefit for a Pakistani or Polish family coming to the UK is the privilege of living next door to a nice English family. After all, if they don't have nice English neighbours, if they choose to have an Asian or East European neighbour instead, as you say, what's the point in them coming? Of course, being able to live in a politically stable country with good quality public services has got nothing to do with it. Because you don't get any of those if you choose to live next door to someone who speaks the same language as you.

And you think I'm a plonker!

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because for british expats they aren't leaving through necessity like oppression or poverty ,they are living there out of choice ,they have bought a different way of life out of choice

There is also an area in newcastle ,in fact there are 2, Darras Hall and Fenham were alot of indian expats have moved ,these are ,doctors ,lawers company owners ect, they have embraced the British culture whilst keeping as much of their own as they choose ,On the other side of the coin are those who have moved here and refuse point blank to accept our culture and insist on having their own culture imposed in whatever area they live

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That's white supremacist nonsense.

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so you accept that they are comming here because their own country is lacking in stability or has no proper public services ,I believe that also.
The difference between me and you is i believe they should fight to get these privelages, which every human on the planet should have,and we (the west )should help them get it not just allow them to move to another country or the problems they faced in their own country will just follow them ,as is beginning to happen here

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Well they'd hardly be queueing up to get into the country if it was a hellhole, would they? Congratulations Sherlock, for your insight into the totally flaming obvious.

The issue isn't why they come, it's whether we have room - we do - and whether they have something to offer that enriches the country while they're here. The various large-scale migrations into the UK during the 20th century brought us a lot of people who have for the most part worked hard, paid taxes and, as others have pointed out earlier in this thread, very often done so whilst taking on the sorts of jobs a lot of Brits nowadays consider beneath them.

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So you are saying that its OK to go to another country by your own choice and force changes in the area you and others like you choose to live!!!

Or is it OK for us to do it in other countries just as long as it's not ours.

JJ

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how the hell do you work that out?
when was the last time a white British person tried to claim Asylum in spain or cyprus?

they buy retirement homes ,holiday homes or just move for the sun cos there're sick of the rain

you really should get out more Chris and have a look at the real world without the rose tinted specs because there are some bad things happening and people like you are going to get caught out with your head buried in the sand

And i'm in no way a white supremist that is just laughable

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Well, I bet I have more air miles than you. Long haul ones as well. Not that I'm interested in having a world traveller peeing contest with you.

It's white supremacist nonsense to suggest that we can go and live in English-speaking ghettos in other countries because we come from a rich and stable culture and have therefore earned the right.

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of course the issue is why they come when you 1000's of fake asylum seekers dissapearing into a system that cannot cope
The example of Darras hall i gave you is a classic example of indian migrants comming in the 50's and 60's working hard and now living in 1/2 million + houses no problem at all there
the example i gave you of the West road area is of modern migrants living (mostly)on benefits or working the black market making no contribution to society apart from raising the local crime rate
And what's wrong with the west helping third world countries to get the same political stability and public services as us?instead

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were have i suggested that ?
you're trying to put meaning into my posts that isn't there AGAIN

And i will thank you to stop using that highly offensive and stupid phrase "white supremist"
I am in no way a bigot or racist i just have different opinions to you and will not be accused of being "white supremist"

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Strange how they 'disappear' yet you seem to know where they all are. Why not phone the Borders Agency and tip them off? :dozey:

Wow, how generous of you to give them your approval, I'm sure they felt they needed it.

And your proof for this ... ?

Nothing. But that's not what you said earlier. Earlier on, you were trying to suggest that it is ok for English people to go abroad, live with other English people and not learn the local language, while at the same time saying it's not ok for an Asian to to come here, want to live with other Asian people and to speak his native language with them. And so far as I can see, your only reason for justifying this is that when the English do it, they're allowed to because they're exporting a superior culture and their wealth. That is white supremacist nonsense, and I will point that out wherever I find it, no matter how uncomfortable that makes you feel.

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We know not to have you 2 on the sit down immigration debate, don't we.

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Going on Poles coming into this country, there was an advert in a local Job Centre in Norfolk or Suffolk, somewhere in that area, where a factory were after lots of staff, the only problem was they HAD TO SPEAK POLISH, and there are thousands of ENGLISH people looking for work, howabout that.

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I see job adverts day in, day out that require people to be able to work in a different language. Sometimes the adverts are printed in that language, seeing as there's no point applying for it unless you can speak the language well enough to read the advert.

What's your problem with this, Art?

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actually Chris it was you who brought that up not me

"Yeah, how dare they want to live close to people of similar tastes and experiences. I mean, it's not as if ex-pat Brits like to live in white ghettos and refuse to learn the local language, is it ..." post 453
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i was giving a reply to a irrellevant and sarcastic statement made by you ..trying to put meaning into posts that isn't there

i just don't see the point in creating pockets of migrants it does nothing to facilitate the integration of them into our society

instead of "reading between the lines" Chris try reading a post as written as i have previously stated i write what i mean i don't put hidden meaning into my words
If i were a racist or bigot or white supremist i would admit it and stand up for my beliefs not hide behind words

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it makes the world go round Gary ;)

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The way these discussions turn out is like, if there was a womens only dart team. we would be arguing about whether or not to allow men to join it, as it's not fair and is offensive to someone that there's no men allowed in it.

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well isn't it ;)
and while we're on the subject just exactly when did they allow women to hold our darts ;)

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How about this - it was taken down after complaints, and the firm is being investigated to see if it is guilty of discrimination. Link

btw, there was one job, not "lots" - but never let hyperbole get in the way of a good rant, eh?

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That's my point. it is about that, and you will get someone saying that men should be allowed to join it :)

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I was born in England so I should be able to state that I am White English on a form, and I also believe any Scottish or Welsh born people would prefer that to be on any official forms.

This is to do with my National identity and is not a race issue as the same should be for the other race options on official forms.

I was born here but with my grandfathers surname I could come from England, Scotland or Germany, and he never told anyone his family history so I have no idea which is correct, but would choose the Scottish heritage option over the other 2.

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i know ,and we always get sucked in :argue:

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091024...t-5b839a9.html

This makes an interesting read ( has it already been liked to ?)

Looks like a good porting have had enough of seeing this countrys culture diluted to appease the minorities

I have to admit I fall into the latter group

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In an attempt to bring the discussion back on topic...

According to someone on QT, 1 in 2 black children under 16 have either a white mother or father. They must find these forms very confusing.

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Yes but they do nowadays have multiple options except the one I want;)

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Yes, I think in a few generations the notion will have to be rendered meaningless.

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That is the view of a lot of people, but are shot down for so much as thinking it.
and it's soon going to be WGAF if you don't like my views, you made it an issue when it didn't have to get this far.

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it's that word again "indigenous" i would be classed as indigenous but how long do you have to live in a country to become "indigenouse" i don't like it's use in this context

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I think Old Nick said 17,000 years, which was the end of the last ice age.

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I seriously could not care. I'm Welsh and British so I'd select whichever option was on offer.

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My view ive made clear I do not wish to clear this country of anyone who is already here. I do want tighter controls on who comes here from now on and I want to stop pandering to the minority and make them adapt to this country and not this country to them

Think is when 43% in a survey have similar opinions and none of the mainstream parties listen then who is going to?

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agree 100%:clap::clap:

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And then people will want the options for
Cornish
Yorkshire
Lancashire
et al......

Where do we stop?:D

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I think I can safely say everyone here is agreed.

or maybe not :)

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Re English ancestry - you are all probably mostly Spanish/Iberian (not Northern European).

There is, further down in the article, an interesting point that may sit uncomfortably with Nick's beliefs about "indigenous natives"
Must be why the English seem to be drawn to the Costa del Sol......:D

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To me if you hold a BRITISH PASSPORT, you are British, those who don't should prove that they can work in this country with a visa, but gurrantee about 50% don't have either, and on Monday they will be at the benefit office claiming benefit ( and no this is not a knock at the unemployed). If you go to certain parts of London the Uk border agencies will be having a field day getting illegals.

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Great, Art - why don't you phone the Border Agency with this intel and give them a tip off? You might get a reward.

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Arthur: I don't hold a British passport, and don't have a visa, yet I have worked and paid taxes in the UK for nearly 10 years. This is because I am an EU citizen, and I can work anywhere in the EU, much like a British person can work anywhere in the EU. Do you have a problem with that?

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Of course he has - you're not "indigenous" ;)

btw, re Nick's point about the Maoris being indigenous to New Zealand (Aotearoa) - they only arrived there from the Polynesian Islands about 350 years before any Europeans (Pakeha) arrived there, so probably not the best example he could have given.

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"THE QUEEN has declared WAR on the BNP." :rolleyes:

link

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It's alright for her, she's in a palace! :)

Griffin will probably attack her now, and mention something about Germans :)

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Yes. A protest vote.

In France, when the NP gained a large vote, it made the main parties act together & do something about the situation. Perhaps that could work here? Our main parties are too busy lining their own pockets & smiling at cameras to do anything. Quite apart from the fact that they are a bunch of useless cowards, scared at the prospect of rocking the boat & loosing their jobs. :td:

After the event, BNP Post Mortem.
 

Cannot please his own Party, what's new in Politics ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...bnp?CMP=AFCYAH

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i watched the program on catch up tv
not the usual question time ,but a witch hunt aimed at griffin ,it was like watching a pack of hounds chew up a fox ,i was hoping it would be a debate ,very disappointing program ,but the bbc reported yesterday that in a survey 1/5 said they would now consider voting bnp ,thats what you get for stifling debate :( .

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I'd like to hear her views on the current political parties, and especially the expenses scandal.

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you never will ,she's not supposed to comment on any political matter

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She should keep out of politics really. but it's nice that she's said something. we all know that she's still around at times like this :)

I want to know what Philip thinks.

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Old Nick mentioned on QT that the
I wonder how that equates with the BNP policy issued April 16 2009 since Hamas were the elected government of Gaza.