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To be fair, the set-top box setup is effortless on a branded Freesat box and has a better overall user experience than either a Ross FTA box or a Sky box. The Ross has no EPG worth speaking of and the Sky one is loaded with all the channels you can't watch, but which they want to sell you.

But for all three options, you invite a world of pain by trying to do the dish install yourself rather than having a trained installer do it for you. Kudos to you for trying though. :D

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I like my little FTA box (though it's not a ROSS) and I do get 7 days EPG :D

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Oh, I don't doubt that there are some highly functional FTA boxes out there ... but the Ross isn't one of them. You pays your money, you takes your choice ...

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Kymmy, I hope you are proved right once I get the finder :-)

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I think it might be called 'Learning the hard way'. But still, I have learned a lot about planning for HD+ (FreeSat+ or FTA) Sat systems today :-) The B&Q initiative is a bit of a impulse punt to test the HD water and I suppose it is worth it!

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Kymmy put me on to the konig sat finder which i bought off amazon for £6 delivered.it is vvvery good.you need to start with the ross dish VERTICAL scamps.then turn it east a tiny bit from the south faceing and up will pop astra and euro.next too it is astra 1c and 1ce which will give you the bbc stations.i am using ross stuff FTA with no probs,percievere with it scamps

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ps ive located 500 plus channels

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pps,most of em crap,,,lol

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thank for the konig info Kymmy.

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:clap: glad it was of some use..

Now kindly tell the rest of these guys your efforts to find the sats with and without the meter :D

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

get the konig sat finder ,turn it down till it only just gives a signal,move the dish slowly till the sound gets louder and the needle moves across the dial to its highest poin,,,,you now have your strongest signal.simplesssss!astra/euro1 and as a plus astra1c and 1d

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bye for now,,,and good luck

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Astra1 (19.2E) doesn't have a lot of English channels on it (mainly French, Spanish and German).. You need Astra2 (28.2E) which is a couple of sats to the left.. Just remember that due to the curvature of the earth as you go left you will need to also slightly lower the dish. It's this sat that has all the UK freesat (and a few others).. If you go to the right slightly from Astra1 you'll also hit Hotbird (13E) which has a lot of Polish, Italian..etc channels on it

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Kimmy, Chris, Azimuth
I got the Konig Sat Finder this morning from an Amazon Vendor for under £7 delivered. I found a signal close to where I was already pointing inside 5 minutes. So now I have 99% 99 Strentgh and 63% quality (According to the Ross) which is abouth the maximum I can achieve.
Flicking through BBC regional channels I find some of them are blank even though signal is there? For instance BBC Yorkshire is blank, whilst BBC Yorks and Links is fine. Do any of you know why this is?

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I would suspect the firmware on the Ross box is out of date. It may be possible to get an over-the-air update for it? I don't know, as I don't own one myself. Doubtless someone here can advise ...

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I should add that both these stations have approximately the same signal stregth. Also, guys - thanks for the advice. You were right :-) Kit worked great.

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Something to note is that there is more than one sat at 28.2E, all of them are used for sky/freesat and when you do the dish pointing you need to not only find the centre point east/west but also up/down.. this should ensure that you get a decent signal strength on all of the sats that are floating around inside of a virtual box in space (they never truely stop moving)

As for the missing channels is there anything in the menu as for transponder updates?? Just that the sats transponders change and the firmware you have might not have the latest updates as Chris said. Check for one of three things.. Firmware updates, transponder updates or manual settings (to enter the channel manually whilst waiting for updates)

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im tearing my hair out with this kit!

ive got the sd version from bnq, and ive been at aligning it for a week now and cant get any signal quality at all, and the most strength ive got is 74%

ive set the dish up on a pole in the garden, with a clear view of the sky. i roughly set the dish, with a compass and copying other sky dishes, connected the signal meter and signal. but when i remove the meter, and connect up straight to the box, i get nothing.

any help greatly appreciated. thanks.

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Signal quality could be better ... check the quality of your cabling, especially the f-connectors at either end. Also ensure there are no kinks or tight turns on the cable. Also I don't much like the sound of a pole in the garden. What's holding it steady? A satellite dish isn't like a terrestrial aerial, it will have absolutely no tolerance for wobbling in the wind.

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OK. I have a call in with Ross to see if there are updates (nothing showing on their web and I cannot see anything in menus on device)

Regarding your question about set up. I did indeed adjust east/west and then up/down. I rechecked and fine tuned as best as possible. So I'll concentrate on Firmware / Software updates first. I'll look on the web to see If I can find manual tuning details for that particular station as well.

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Chirsss - I am a novice. I just set up a Ross HD kit from B&Q. My Signal strength has always been 99% so I think you might have a F-Connector problem. On my cable (as supplied in the box, I discovered the connector fell apart quite easily. I replaced it with another better one.
Also, advised by the guys on this Forum, I purchased a Konig Sat Meter and found the signal almost immediately (63% Quality).

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Fixed it for ya :tu: :kiss:

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Anybody's music channels lost signal over the last few days? :(

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SCAMPS,,,on your ross box astra&euro are at number 22 on the satellite list which you will have tuned into.go to number 4 on the sat list and tune into that one too,,,it will then give you all your missing local channels and others besides.azi

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Question please, go easy as my knowledge of Satellite isn't the best.

I have SkyHD which I understand uses Astra 28.2 , I have a quad LNB with two free connectors if I was to put a box in my conservatory what's the difference with connecting a FTA box as opposed to a Freesat branded receiver. Will both types receive the exact amount of channels , can you recommend some decent boxes.

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You would get all the same channels from any FTA box, whether or not it is Freesat branded. The advantages of the Freesat brand are a very easy set-up process and EPG. You can however get other FTA boxes that it is possible to programme to collect EPG data and some are easier than others to set up.

There are others here who have first-hand experience of non-Freesat FTA boxes, especially the Ross kit that you can get at B&Q ... doubtless one or more of them will have advice on which to go for.

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Freesat is branded and designed for UK usage, it gives you a 7 day epg and if you want free UK only channels (with possibly some added extras like iplayer/pvr on some boxes) then a freesat box is ideal. If though you want a cheap box that doesn't have the EPG but has a few more channels (though some of them can be foreign) and Diseqc abilities like Multiple LNB's or motorised system then FTA is great.

So your choice would be UK simplicity or a cheap expandable system that might be more complicated.

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i have a ross sd free to air box.....very basic but gets 400+channels.they include every free channel ie,bbc stream,news; sky news. itv channels etc,etc.plus many more.no epg tho which you would get with free sat.

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ps,ive been told there are free to air boxes that do epg now.

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this was a grait help know got BBC HD thanks:)

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All Freesat boxes have a non-Freesat mode that allow you tune any channel your dish can pick up. The boxes may be missing Diseqc features but really in terms of the number of channels they can receive they are equal to any other non-Diseqc non-Freesat box (like the Ross).

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Hi Guys, I have connected a ross hrd6110usb receiver to my existing sky dish and lnb. ive got some channels and so much, mostly those ones what i need doesnt come. what do i have to do? set the dish or make an upgrade on the receiver , if i have to do that, how? i didnt find anything on ross website. thanks for helps

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

That all depends what channels you want and what channels are missing. More detail, please. :)

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the music ones, flaunt, scuzz, bliss, etc

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Those channels are broadcast to the UK in the clear so a properly aligned Sky dish should receive them and any receiver should show them. Are you able to pick stuff up with the dish attached to a set top box and TV?

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i tried to set my dish, but i havent been able to get any better signal then 60%

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I have turned on my box today and all my channels have disapeared near enough! I spent ages downloading all the channels and spent a good hour or two deleting all the rubbish just keeping around 30 channels worth keeping! I go on there today and at least 15 have gone!! :\ starting to have enough of this box now. some days there is no signal for certain channels and now this. Anybody no how I can redownload every channel, shame I will have to siv through about 200 of them. Thanks :)

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Well after that rant they have all come back :\

But I still have a question for anybody that would be kind enough to help :) I acidentally deleted my itv1 + 1. Anybody have an idea how I can go about maybe just redownloading this? also my music channels seem to get no signal anymore, anybody else had this? :) x

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ITV1+1 is on

10906 v 22000

&

10891 H 22000

Have a look at http://en.kingofsat.net/tv-28.2E.php

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Hi,
Just bought 1of these,i get a signal strength of 67% but no quality, can anyonegive me any advice.:)

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Yep, read this thread as lots of people had the same fault ;)

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Bought one yesterday, purely to use to watch formula One on RTL (Astra 19.9) next year.

I have not bothered with the ugly dish that is supplied, but am using a 35cm dish from my Lidl camping system which I find really easy to set up.

A tip for anyone buying the system for the same reason is that when scanning Astra 1C/1E (19.2) remove transponders 47 & 67 or the Ross box will lock up.

Going to purchase a small dish http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1606559003...t_2359wt_752to to hang on my shed. Even at 38 quid for the dish and 25 quid for the box, it still works out less than 2 months Sky subscription.

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got this dish and it kept cutting out at 47 & 67 and as I know nothing I guessed the box was no good and took two months to bother to sort it out by that time I lost reciepts so just purchased another one (with the idea of returning the old one on the new reciept :devsmoke:) however I read the post above me and sorted it THANK YOU :handshake. Now im wondering wether to take the other one back or can you run two boxes off one dish? is so how? or is it as simple as using a splitter?.... once again I know nothing lol :)

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You can but you need a Twin LNB

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Twin or Quad LNB will do, you need one output per tuner. The ross boxes are single tuner, freesat/FTA PVRs are dual tuner. To single tuner boxes need two outputs and two PVR boxes need 4 outputs. You can leave an output un-used just wrap them in a bit of self-amalgamating tape.

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Assuming your dish is pointing at 28.2 you could do as I have and add the Ross LNB along side your existing LNB and pick up both Astra 28.2 (Freesat etc) and 19.2, its surprisingly easy to do. Use one feed to each of your Ross boxes.

I decided to do this instead of buying a second dish.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/58.jpg
DSCF3820 by keicar1, on Flickr

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You can do that with many sats, just alter the angle dependant on the seperation of the sats. I used to have a home made bracket to pick up 28.2E and 13E. You can buy twin LNB's that are two in one set to the correct angle or if you look further back in this thread I posted a link to a variable twin LNB :D

B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

i have put up my sat dish i 70% strenght but 0% quality any one got any idears on what to do

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Ooh look, you've gone offline already :p:

Come back, someone will be able to help you!

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Just in case you do pop back, signal strength measures the connection between the dish and the box. Signal quality measures the broadcast signal being received by the dish.

If you have good strength but zero quality, it means you have done your cabling well but you most likely messed up the dish alignment.

What did you use to align the dish?

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hello we have had the Ross HD reciver and dish for near a year and gave up on the set up !! We set one up at a house in Sussex with a meter NO probs ( Not a Ross or HD ) went to do ours and with the meter , cant get a "Sound from the meter or any "Quailty" signal, Im trying to sort it again , HELP!!

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The meter relies on the power from the box to the LNB, if no sound at all even on full sensitivity then I'd check the cable (make sure that there's no shorts including the patch lead) and also the LNB settings on the box

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hi kymmy,,,what can i expect to recieve on 19.2 and is it in english?thanks.

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Check lyngsat.com or many of the other sat websites for a complete listing of channels on each sat and if they're encrypted or not

http://www.lyngsat.com/astra19.html

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Hi every one I wonder if some one can help me. I bought a Ross Free sat HD Kit a few weeks ago. It was tricky to start with to set up. We had the same problem as other people on this forum as in we could get strength of 99% but quality continually at 0 %. We eventually discovered that the Lnb was faulty. Once we got a new Lnb. It worked fine. Now I get quality of 60% and picture is very good even on HD channels. I can pick up all the BBC channels, ITV channels, Channels 4, Channel 5 etc. But my problem now is that channels such as Food network it picks up the channel and tells you what programme is on. But when you try and view the channel there is no picture just a black screen. Why is this. When you are on the food network channel and press info it shows there is a signal of 60%. Is there any thing I can do to get a picture on these channels. I love watching the food network channel. And this was one of the main reasons I went for free sat instead of free view. Also I can pick up the children's channels such as pop, tiny pop, pop girl and kix. But when try to view these channels I get a message saying no signal. Why is this. Are these channels not on the same satellite as the BBC, ITV Channel 4 channels etc. Is my dish perhaps not quite aligned properly or is it a problem with my receiver box. Or have I done some thing else wrong. Also one final thing has any one had any problems with connecting a usb drive to there Ross free sat receiver. As I have tried plugging in a usb 2gb memory stick and it came up with a error message and would not read it, I also tried connecting a 160gb external usb hard drive and it would not read this either. I wanted to be able to record some programmes. I am guessing my receiver box is faulty.
Any advice on all these things would be much appreciated, thanks in advance

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It could be that the channel has moved since the scan was done.. Try a full rescan but before that see if there is any updates for the firmware which should also update the transponder listings as well.

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There is a firmware update, I have downloaded it from the Ross website, and I put it on my 2gb usb memory stick but when I plug in to usb port of receiver. It will not read usb device I just get a error saying can't mount usb device. I have tried it with my usb hard drive as well. and it wont read my hard drive at all and no error comes up. So can't do firmware upgrade. Does the usb drive have to be formatted in a certain format to be recognised by the Ross receiver

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You are probably correct with the format being the issue.. what does it suggest on the documentation for the firmware or in the receiver manual as to what cards it can read??

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It does not say any thing in the instructions or manuals about what usb devices or what formats it will read that's the problem. I guess ill have to contact Ross to find out.

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All I can suggest is for you to try differing formats on the card (or if the ross box has a format util you format it in that first)

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teddybear,,,ive had the blank screen syndrome,with 80%strength and 40% qual.latest was boxnation,i had to go into menu,sattelite and retune all stations again.it seems the ross doesnt have the ability to tune in just one channel.i get all the channels,,300 etc but my best reception is strength 80% quality54%.ive never managed 60%but i get all the channels

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I finally got it working. I finally managed to get it to recognise my hard drive after formatting it many times in different formats and did a firmware upgrade. Then I re tuned and could get a picture on all channels. It worked fine the last few days but now I have a new problem. I was watching TV using the Ross free sat last night. Then put it in standby and switched TV off to go to bed. This morning my husband got up and tried to watch the news before going to work and it has completely stopped working. It just says no signal. When you go in to the dish settings it says level 25% quality 0%. I have checked the cable had not come loose and even un screwed it from receiver and re screwed it. I checked the dish had not moved and it hadn't. I checked the rest of cable for any damaged and checked it was connected to Lnb correctly which it was. I then switched the box off and then on again but it made no difference, I have even done a factory reset on the receiver box, But it made no difference. I have a old sky hd box so tried connecting the dish to this but could not get a signal on this either. I don't know if this is because need two cables from dish connected or not. So what could the problem be. Is it most likely another faulty Lnb or do you think the receiver box might be faulty. Has any one else had this problem. IS it worth buying another Lnb to try. Any advice would be much appreciated

thanks in advance

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What PC is the USB formatted on? The USB format is Windows 32 and 64 bit I believe. So if you are running Linux or Mac you may have this problem.

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When you wired up the system you did seal off the external cable connection with self amalgamating tape or a barrier sealant against inclement weather??

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the set came with rubber cover things that you slide on to cable then once you have screwed cable to Lnb, you pull this rubber cover up over it. to hide and seal conection from cable to Lnb. This is what I used was this not good enough. Should I have used some kind of sealant as well. Do you think moisture has got in to it or some thing.:confused:

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I guess it would depend how snug a fit the rubber cuff gave. It sounds to me like it's probably ok. Self amalgamating tape would be best, but the most important thing is not to leave the connector bare, or wrapped with just any old tape that would lose its stick very quickly.

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Hi all, thought I would add my experience of the Ross SD system. It was on offer at B&Q for £25. I bought it and dutifully read the instructions. I mounted the dish on my south facing wall and aligned it to the correct satellite, (so I thought). I got 70% signal strenght and 65% signal quality. The receiver started to add channels. Great I thought, but no BBC, ITV etc. Various visits to internet sites and I was starting to understand that this was not going to be as simple as I thought. Suspected I might be either hitting the wrong sat, or maybe the roof of the old peoples home opposite was in the line of site. I made an extension to the wall fitting, no change, even tried realigning, but signal strenth meter was unable to find anything at other locations. Using the data from the Lyngsat site, I created a new list of TPs and discovered that if the polarity was V, I had to change it to H and vice versa. Another disturbing feature was the remote kept switching my music center on? I then purchased a Bush Freesat box from Argos. It wouldn't accept my postcode and when using the default setting, it added all the channels, but either generated 'No Signal' or 'Service not available' I swapped it for a Goodmans box as the support line suspected it might be duff, same problem and the time was an hour behind? If I added the channels with TP, frequencies and Polarity, (again changing V to H and vice versa), I got good reception in non Freesat mode and the relevant channels became available in Freesat mode, also the time was correct. Lack of EPG prompted me to purchase a Sky type dish with quad LNB from Ebay and once aligned, I connected the Goodmans box. Lo and behold, it worked first time. I can only assume that the LNB on the Ross dish was faulty. I intend to purchase an HD box for the TV in the living room and use the SD in the kitchen. Will I buy the Ross HD box? I don't think so.

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The sad irony is, this thread has now been going for two years and there have been plenty of examples in it of both the Ross boxes and the LNBs B&Q supplies with them being dodgy. Unfortunately people only tend to go searching the web for information after it all goes wrong.

I don't know if maybe living miles from a superstore of any kind has made a difference to me, but I never go out to buy any tech without thoroughly researching it online first. Mind you a lot of the time I don't go out to buy it even then, I usually end up buying it online.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the best free satellite TV experience for someone who just wants to switch it on and watch it with minimum hassle and enjoy a service that is as familiar as Freeview is to buy a box that carries the Freesat brand. Then either pay an aerial installer to do the dish (because it really isn't as simple as mounting a traditional tv aerial) or else get kit from a reputable online retailer like Maplin or similar.

Yes, branded Freesat costs more, but you get what you pay for.

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The irony is that only the Ross failures tend to get a mention on this site.The many satisfied Ross customers are too busy watching the telly to bother expounding the virtues of their system in this forum.anyway it gives the forum fanatics something to chat about,,,,,,,cant be bad if its lasted for 2years!

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ps.mines a Ross ,,,,,,,,,and it works great....

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Really ... so, what's on TV tomorrow night, then? :p:

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My 7 day epg works on my FTA box Chris... but then again it's not a Ross :p:

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HIDEY HI Chris,,,,,,the sad irony is i always thought Maplins was a holiday camp,,,,,no wonder i bought a cheapo from B&Q:dunce:

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In the end the Ross box is a good introduction into sat tv reception.. Unlike freesat where everything is done for you Ross and other FTA boxes teach you how to set up the dish and box for single or multiple sat reception.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Except that most people don't want to learn how their TV reception works. They just want it to work. That's why free-to-air satellite was a minority hobby until the Freesat brand was created.

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:quite right kymmy,,,,it was only that the ross complete package ie,,dish etc was so cheap that i bought it,,i had nothing to lose at£25.with a bit of info from you i got good reception,.when my freeview is playing up i just swop over to my satellite,,,,got a good pic.thanks to cheapo ross im now in semi hobby satellite mode.i now have a bit of an idae what to buy when my ross box packs in.it just proves that most things have potential if one wants to find it.:tu:

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I don't actually particularly want the Freesat channels. What I'm after is French TV as cheaply as possible.

In that respect is the Ross HD box worth getting?

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19.2E seems to be where most of the french station are... No idea though which are encrypted and which are free.. You'll have to check on lyngsat.com for that

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

I think he was more interested in an evaluation of the Ross as a basic FTA box for picking up channels outside of the UK market for which it was intended. ;)

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Which the Ross will do perfectly well.. ;) Just went a bit further and told him the best place to point it :D

Most EU sats use MPEG2 for SD and MPEG4 for HD which the Ross boxes do perfectly well. It's only when you get outside of Europe that people have issues with C-band..etc..

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Thanks for that. I will have to keep it in mind then and will look to see how much I can get it for on its own from my local B&Q.

Although I'm actually thinking the Openbox S10 maybe serves me better as I prefer the look of it and it has a CI slot.

As a complete satellite novice I find that lyngsat.com site a bit difficult to interpret, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of explanation attached to the tables and I can't work out which are encrypted and which aren't etc.

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Concerning lyngsat it's very simple as all FTA programs have https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/12/39.gif next to them under the SYSTEM ENCRYPTION table

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Deleted Post. Problem solved, for now :D

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I have been trying to set up the Ross HD satellite kit without much success. I have used a signal tool and compass (also an iPhone app) but i just get a load of German, French & Italian channels. The receiver shows the UK channels with 99% signal strength & 72% quality but nothing appears on the screen. Can anyone help? I plan to go back this morning with my Humax receiver just to see whether it is the box or the alignment.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

If you're only getting foreign channels, you're pointing the dish at the wrong satellites.

The sat finder can't tell you which ones you've found, it can only show you that you have a good signal from the ones you've found.

And when you use a compass, remember that magnetic north deviates from true north by an amount that varies from year to year. What compass bearing are you using to aim the dish?

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Hi Chris,

I am pointing it, or at least I think I am at 28.2. My confusion is that it finds the UK channels and with good strength & quality (stronger than some of the Euro ones) yet there is no picture. So it sounds like trying to figure out which way to go!

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

You're probably pointing a few degrees to the right from the sat you want...

Plug in the sat meter and gently turn the dish to the left and listen/watch for a signal on the meter... the more you go left then you may have to drop the dish by a millimeter or two.. The difference between freesat/sky and others like Astra1/hotbird is only about 10-15 degrees so isn't a great deal of movement on the dish.

ross satellite
 

hi new member father in law has just installed a ross sat system signal strengh bar very good but quality is reading 0 we have used a sat finder to find the satellite please could some one point us in the right directions to fix this problerm.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Signal strength measures the connection between the LNB and the set-top box. Signal quality measures the signal being received from the satellite at the LNB. If the signal quality is zero, then you have not got the dish aligned correctly with the satellite.

I don't know the Ross box personally but IIRC its firmware is such that it won't recognise satellites other than the ones designed for UK broadcast, in which case you could have the dish pointed at the wrong satellites and get a good reading from a sat finder but then get nothing on the Ross box. Someone else will be able to confirm or refute that anyway.

Remember, however, that a satellite finder cannot tell you which satellites you're pointing at, it can only tell you how well you're locked on to the ones you have found.

And also bear in mind that it is far from unheard of for Ross boxes to be duff and need replacing back at B&Q or wherever you got it from before you actually bring home one that works!

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

hi thank you very much for that do you mean that quite a few are returned or the opposite, also is there any thing on the market to align up to the astra 2 sat. it tells me in the manual to set the lmb at 8 0clock how acurate does this have to be many thanks.;)

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

You probably have the wrong sat.. ignore the signal strength as that's just telling you that it's getting a signal from the LNB instead when you get the right sat your quality reading should go up. For LNB rotation try dishpointer.com

Re: ross satellite
 

ive set up 3ross systems from b&q all ok.start with the dish vertical to the horizon and just left of due south.then just turn dish minutely(azimuth)till the quality line goes to 60%,that will be Astra,eurobird1.you will miss the signal at the slightest misalignment,just to the right of 28.2 is 19.0 which mostly french ,so you can see how easy it is to lock on to the wrong signal.Chris is a nice fellow but hes got an absolute down on any thing Ross so just keep trying before you call it a dud.happy viewing.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Happy new year, Azimuth :p: :wavey:

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

;)Happy new year to you too Chris,,,im tryin to keep the Ross workers in a job in these trying times Chris:)best wishes.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Hi
I bought a ross free sat a few months ago and iv bought a satalite finder. I cant seem to find any quality at all. I have 50% strenght wihich i
Need. I seem to be having trouble with finding a satalite because no matter where i place the dish it seems to not be picking up a satalite. Does anybody have any ideas on what i could do to get 50% quality?
Thanks hannah

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Strength is the signal between the dish and the Ross box and shows you how good your cable and connections are.
Quality is the signal between the satellite and the Ross box, via the dish and shows you how well-aimed your dish is.

For starters, 50% strength means you could have done a better job of your cabling, although it will be adequate.

If you have no quality, you have not got the dish pointed at any satellites. You need to pont it elsewhere. There are several recent posts in this thread that describe how to do that. Just read back a bit.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Thanks for getting back to me. We are pointing our dish where everybody else are. And also we have looked on Dish pointer website and it is telling me that we have to point it to a certain direction which we have done and the needle on the satallite finder is still not moving. We dont understand this as the dish pointer website is telling us that where the satallite is and still no quality.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

As the accuracy needed is within a millimetre or two it's nearly impossible to do it by looking at where other dishes are pointing. You need a sat meter (even the professionals use them) which will give you an idea of when you're close and then when you have the strongest signal.. Even then you may get the wrong sat as they are only about 6-10 degrees separation between them but when you find one it's simple to find the rest and eventually find which one you;re looking for.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Ok thanks. Il give it a try. Even though i think we have tried everything! Haha.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Unless you have a meter then you've not tried everything

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Im thinking of trying one of these can i use it off my exsisting sky dish ?

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Yes, sky and freesat uses the same sat group

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

dont forget webbhannah that your sat dish is almost vertical and not pointing up to the sky.point it just to the left of south as you are looking at south,,,there you will find astra and eurobird.do as kymmy and chris says and get a sat finder.you only have to be a gnats out to miss your intended sat.dont forget the dish points to the horizon and not up.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Ok thank. We have been pointing it to south east as the Dish pointer tells us to. Because it shows us a picture of our house and a green line to show us which way. But thanks il try to point it south like you say

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Hi there, just restored my box to default I have scanned and downloaded my channels but I have searched through all 500 + and cannot find BBC ONE HD and my BBC HD has no signal.

Anybody got any ideas why bbc one hd is not there at all, do I need to scan something else for that?

many thanks to any replys

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

It's already been explained a number of times in this thread how to get the HD channels..

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

Hi Chris, just come onto this forum and been reading some back stuff as well as this newer stuff and I'd just like to point out that you continually state that signal strength is the quality of the conections between the LNB and the set top box. This is incorrect as yes you must have 100% connections but signal stregth is the measure of the signal being recieved at the LNB.
This can be proven if you go to different channels and read the readings there. In my case this is confirmed in my set up done by a qualified installer.I have a perfectly aligned dish and quality connection with a quad LNB by the best. This is connected to an Humax Foxsat PVR, now on the usual channels from BBC and ITV etc. I get 100% signal strength but go to some of the lesser channels and I get 80% & 90%. Quality is a measure of the signal being sent and can vary,even though strength is 100% due to several reasons in the chain and can vary even as you sit and watch the signal bar.
These facts can be confirmed simply be going on to any specialist web page.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

I have a Ross dish and its pointed at the Astra Satellite. I can recieve all the channels on it in my attic (cable lenght 30foot from dish) but to get the cable down to the sitting room I had to join it twice with gold plated connectors(overall cable lenght from dish to tv in sitting room 70foot). In the sitting room I can only get about 40 different channels (mostly ITV's and BBC's) with Signal Strength 77% Picture Quality 63%. Can anybody tell me definitively is this because of the joining of the cables or is my dish not pointed presisely enough.

Re: B&Q Satellite - Ross freesat box and dish
 

For those sometimes asking me what they can get on their FTA sat within this thread here's a great little site

http://www.robssatellitetv.webs.com/

You may need a twin LNB or a diseqc motor as it covers lots of sats..