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More allegations against Man United are looming....

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/126145

United's legal dept are going to be busy it seems.

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Liverpool were accused by Crewe as well...

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The one good thing about all of these accusations is that the FA are more likely to see how rediculous they are.

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West Ham broke the rules over the Tevez affair and should have relegated, or loss heavuily of points, and therefore quite rightly United should have been promoted.

It always appear the big clubs can get away with murder, yet small clubs get hit hard with minus points, l could name three clubs that started a season between 20 and 30 minus points, this is what is unfair about football today, there is one rule for one, and one for another.

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This is true. United are allowed to break every and any FA rule and so they should - they are the champions and it should stay that way.

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I don't think they are at all. I think the smaller clubs should be compensated when United/Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea etc take a player that a smaller club has invested their scant resources into developing away from them.

I mean it really does leave a sour taste in the mouth when a club which the wealth of resources of a Chelsea or United take a player from one of these clubs in a manor deliberately designed to avoid giving the smaller clubs any money at all.

What incentive do this clubs have to develop players anymore if their good ones are taken by the big boys?

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SCOTLAND 1 HOLLAND 2 (Sorry Scotland)

ENGLAND 2 CROATIA 2

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SCOTLAND 0 HOLLAND 2 (haha Scotland)

ENGLAND 2 CROATIA 1 (Sorry Scotland)

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Racists Warned Ahead Of Key England Clash


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...t_Be_Tolerated

What you should do is any racism the country that is doing it should be kicked out of the tournament and band for the next one.

No Appeals.

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Kinda of harsh if it's a handful of fans though.

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If 3 England fans shout racist abuse you'd be in favour of your national team being removed from the tournament? And the next one?

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I mean the type that Emile Heskey recieved (or similar)

Yes England should be banned if these so called fans behave like animals.

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2 - 0 to England in 17 mins, a goal fest beckons

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Again, If only a small minority does it should that be reason enough? England have been very good at stamping it out of our game but a minority will slip though and it's not fair they represent a country which is very good on this issue.

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I am actually the Scotland game, and there is more fight, nearly scored, but a privelage to watch it.

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Que Sera Sera, We're going to Africa :drunk:

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where ya watching that on that Arthur?

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As if I needed any more reason to hate Arshavin :dozey:

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The following countries in the United Kingdom will be in South Africa:

England
....

That is all.

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Don't worry, we'll whip you in the rugby :D

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In your dreams boyo:D

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Been there, got the T-shirt :p:

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Why not? We normally do :)

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Come on Heskey. Guy has given, and still gives, a lot to England. I want him to get a goal.

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Nice one Collins!!!

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4 nil bring it on

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Being an England fan, l want to say well played to Scotland, l watched half this game, and they fought like tigers, and deserved to get a goal, and they played very well against the Dutch champions, so well played:)

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We're off to the World Cup Finals wooooo :D

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Scotloland.

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I would go along with that.

How Sheringham thought Lennon was man of the match is mind boggling, the silence from the commentators after it was announced said it all, however, great performance by England.

My man of the match would probably be Gareth Barry, or even Gerrard or Lampard, but I don't think anyone really stood out, it was more of a team performance for me.

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Lennon seemed to be making things happen though, especially early on.

At the moment though our defence looks like sending us home early in Africa.

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Like most, if not all ITV pundits, Teddy Sheringham is a clueless waste of space. They'd probably be better off picking random people from the crowd to sit in the studio.

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Setting up 2 goals and counts for nothing then?

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For effort and useful involvement I would say Gerrard or Rooney. :)

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Keep your eye on the argentina game if thay lose tonight vs Paraguay
It will be very hard for tham to go the the world cup next year

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His teeth are very white though :D

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Lennon will go to the world cup, but will not be first choice, it will be that Arsenal kid whose name escapes me for the moment.

Edit: Ah yes, Theo Walcott

The thing that impressed me more tonight was that Capello was annoyed at conceding a goal, where as Steve McClaren would just have probably opened another umbrella.

Things are looking good, but work still has to be done

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Argentina one nil down after 28 minutes. Paraguay have also had two shots hit the bar. No real shots on target yet for Argentina.

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are we about to see something that football fans will talk about for years to come a Argentinaless world cup !

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A really exciting end to the play-off between Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia took the lead in injury time, then Bahrain scored a few minutes later to go through on away goals. So Bahrain will meet New Zealand for a place in South Africa.

Just look at the reaction of the Saudi players when Bahrain equalise:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2M2FluK9Ig

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Argentina lost 1-0 !

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Really enjoyed watching that. You couldn't script it!! I think the commentator was a tad tired at the end.

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You never tire of being wrong do you? What are you basing your judgement on this time, facts or what you read in The Sun, there was no set punishment and that was proved in court at least twice.

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Wishing the England womens team all the best tonight for thier Euro final against Germany in Helsinki, kick-off at 5pm with coverage on BBC2

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...en/8246204.stm

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I do feel sorry for the women. If it were the men's team, we'd be going crazy. As its the women's team, noone really cares. Also, noone turns up to watch them. Here's a pic from the Euro semi-final between England and Holland:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/09/26.jpg

Good luck ladies, do the country proud.

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The captain is even playing with a special mask after dislocating a bone in her cheek.. A bloke with the same injury would be flying home by now :rolleyes: :D

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Like John Terry ;)

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Aaron Lennon deserved that award, he is like a rocket and covers every inch of that turf to supply players like Gerrard and Lampard, He is worth 100 million in todays market, he doesn't get the credit he fully deserves, if he was ever to leave Spurs, there would be uproar in North London.

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Lennon worth more than Ronnie? Don't be silly.

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IF Spurs put Lennon in the market, l could gurrantee that is what Spurs would ask for, you never know this time next year, l gurrantee a transfer fee of that calibre will be asked for.

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this Euro final between england and germany is a real good game 3 goal in 25 mins :)

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Last 10 minutes (not finished yet) has been to say the least "Interesting" at teh city of Manchester Stadium..

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And yet another... must watch this game later

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Just heard Adebayor ran the length of the pitch to the Arsenal fans :rolleyes:

Sounds like a great win for you though :)

Liverpool 4-0 Burnley :D

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OK now I'm slightly concerned about Man City.

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I think contrary to his intention it actually shows we were right to sell him, the guy just has a bad attitude.

Crappy result. From what I've heard Arsenal were dominating for large parts of the game. If so it's like the United game a couple of weeks ago. We really need to score the chances we get.

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I think though the most interesting game will be the Spurs v ManU game.. Spurs will be looking to prove thier recent form isn't a fluke

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Police had to get involved after Abedayor's goal :S

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Let's hope Adebayor gets charged by the FA like Tyson then.

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More Adebayor rumors that he stamped on Persie...

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Spurs up after 1 minute?!

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Defoe again, I wonder how long Spurs will be able to keep him before he'll vanish off onto the continent

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An equalizer by Giggs

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Phew, nice one Giggsy.

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Indeed. Completely moronic and as Damien says, clearly we were right to sell him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyoKcu8bcNQ

I'm no wondering who's worse; Cashley or Adebayor.

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Donkey putting on a fine display of how to completely mess up goal-scoring opportunities. Perhaps in Bulgaria you get extra point for berbatoving the ball over the bar?

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Good goal by your other donkey though.

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Adebayor needs to get a grip.

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4 goals in 4 premier games, I think he already has.....

Every footballer when leaving a club always has something to prove, it's a pity he let his other actions besides scoring speak for himself..

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Well the alleged stamping and his celebration would make me think otherwise.

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He has a grip on his goalscoring, just not on his professionalism. It's worth remembering why he was unpopular at Arsenal last year. He was a bad presense in the dressing room, and his second season at Arsenal he gave up trying. He wouldn't run back from offside if Arsenal had a break, he wouldn't exert much effort on the pitch.

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I think he has every right to do what he did after how he was treated at Arsenal, by some of the fans especially.

He was our best player today imo, a shame the ref made a horrendus decision which meant he had to be sacrificed for the team. A great win and we played our best football so far this season, excellent :tu:

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However he still has that accute habit of putting the ball anywhere bar the back of the net.

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Great performance that - made 10 men look like 12 thanks to Rooney.

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No worse than United treat Berbatov. It was a silly thing to do and he was booked. He wasn'y treated that badly either, but after a while it became ridiculous. He was offside more than any other player in the league, understandable if your always attacking but not if you simply cannot be bothered to walk back onside.

He was often hanging back, not providing supports to Persie (whom he kicked today, again something he also does not have the right to do) or any other attackers.

So he got booed. It turned hostile after he had a go at Arsenal fans in a interview because of that booing and then it just descended.

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Not all United fans treat Berbatov like Russ B does ;)

I just think if fans are prepared to give a player stick, they should expect it back and a player should be able to. Why should a player have to contain his emotion? It's not like he ran up to them shouting and swearing. He was given stick and he has proven he's still a quality player, he should be able to give some back to the Arsenal fans. I expect he will get a fine/ban like Neville did when he celebrated infront of the scousers, which in my opinion is ridiculous

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A lot of us do :D

I'll criticise him as I feel he deserves it. He can get all over the pitch, his workrate can be high etc but that's not what he's paid to do. He's a forward, a striker. His job is to score goals. So far he's been a massive flop on that score. Maybe he'd do better as an attacking midfielder, I don't know. But as a striker he deserves all the criticism he gets.

What I don't agree with is abuse. If I do my job badly I expect my boss to act on it. I would not expect abuse.

With donkey he doesn't seem to be cocky or making excuses like Adebayor so abuse is not the right way about it.

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Oh yeah I understand his reaction. I think it's misplaced because the nature of that relationship with the fans was his own fault. I rarely see our own players booed at the Emirates, towards the end of last season a lot were being booed though.

I think what he did was stupid because he was trying to provoke a reaction and stomping (it true) on Van Persie is very unprofessional and vindictive. Shows we were right to sell him since improvement in the dressing room moral at Arsenal was attributed to him leaving. He used to dismiss and insult the other forwards for example. Especially Van Persie and Bentner.

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You see at least Berbatov puts in the effort. I don't know why he is still in the team but whenever I see United play there isn't a slacker among them. Same with any decent team, I honestly don't know why Wenger put him in the team because it doesn't matter how good you are if you can't be bothered to play!

I agree that players should not be subject to abuse, especially from their own fans. I never understood that Gallas, although not booed, was disliked because I always rated him and Toure.

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He was very good today, shame he had to go off, I mean Scholes can't tackle, but no way was that a Yellow. The Spurs player (Huddlestone?) was as much to blame, he went in, Scholes made an attempt to pull out, and his hand glanced his cheek, then we have to have rolling round holding face, pathetic.

Berbatov is dependent on what you expect, I see him as more a Bergkamp than a Nistelrooy. In that respect he has underwhelmed to a degree, I think his worth ethic is now starting to pick up, he was running the channels and coming into midfield today, his best game so far for me.

Anderson also started to look more like the lad we bought, his first time passing had Spurs all over the place. And if Rooney isn't the most complete player in Europe I would like to know who is.

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Yeah yeah, puts in the effort, his workrate is high, he's all over the pitch. But does he score goals like a striker should? No.

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I think the referee Mariner, was very poor in my view, there were many challengers that went unnoticed, for a game such as this, there should have been a stronger referee, he was giving out warnings instead of bringing out the book.

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Also many challenges that should never have been freekicks or especially RED CARDS. Not sure if we can argue it or not, it was a crock. Thing is Arthur sometimes a few warnings keeps it flowing, it was an end to end game and one of the best I have seen in the Prem for some time. But then it is a typical Spurs v UTD game, same ethos, always great games with goals.

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It depends on how many you expect, he caused havock again with his hold up play and assists. And bar a great save from their keeper would have scored an absolute stunner. They couldn't handle him in any way, totally unplayable. Him and Rooney are becoming unplayable. It's not quite Rooney/Ruud but it is coming.

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Scoles has always been a bad tackler, also Vidic, but there again some refs are scared on Sir Alex, it was a great game, BUT we must have stronger referees.

What Mariner should have done, was booked the first bad tackle and there were plenty, especially when Vidic smacked a Spurs player round the face, and he got away with it.

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I assume the Crouch challenge? Trouble is he is so ungainly, his arms are all over the place, Vidic was lucky on that last one, but then you have Crouch elbowing him in the face, it ends up a 50/50. I think anyone would have been naffed off to go when you take a smack in the face. I don't mind a ref letting stuff go when he does it for both teams. Once he starts flashing Yellow you end up with that idiotic display we had at Chelsea last year.

I like a competitive game, a throwback to the day when it was 11 men v 11 men.

Besides, half the challenges where on Lennon, and he runs like Phoebe, no wonder he ends up on his ass at the slightest challenge.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_0Ta_DIWuU

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ok ......................... so spurs were perfect and did absolutely nothing wrong , and i think if Vidic had 'smacked' him around the face he would have been sent off :erm: and if not he will definately get banned , just watch the game and realize you were outplayed :)

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Well any would be nice. Show the world he can score like a £30m player should. Or even a £20m player. Maybe even a £15m player.

Yep wonderful, the attributes of an attacking midfielder.

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That is what he is really, Bergkamp/Cantona/Sheringham they are aren't strikers in a goal poaching mode. I know what you mean about him, I would like a few more goals, but as long as he is creating goals for others I don't mind it too much. The way we are now, we need that link, we have no goal scoring midfielder and one out and out starting goal scorer (although he played two people today).

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If he is creating goals for other team mates, fine, carry on. I actually prefer Utd not having a target man and I do think that we play better when we get goals from around he team.

I was actually glad when van Nistelroy left, to be honest. We have never really played with an target man and it doesn't suit us.

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Oh, and Arthur...3-1 with only 10 men ;) :D

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Soooo yeah that was disgusting by Adebayor. Hopefully he'll be punished.

And WOW@That celebration, still think he doesn't need to get a grip?

Disgusting behaviour.

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Certainly today, most entertaining we have played in some time. If we can do that against all the Prem we may well not regret having £80Mill and no Ronny. I wasn't glad to see Ruud leave cos he was great (best out and out goal scorer of this generation for me) but I know what you are saying, we relied on him way too much.

I am hoping Anderson continues this form, first half he was really good. Hearing good things about Hargreaves (Ignore the papers) so hopefully he is back come November. If we can knock that bunch of wannabes off their soapbox next week we might just be ok.

Hopefully Adebayor wont get away with punching the ball into the net like last time.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/09/23.jpg

What a clown. Oh, and thanks to his celebration and in turn the rabid Arsenal fans, a steward got injured:

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Dear God he really does delibatly kick at Van Persie's head! I hope that gets investigated!

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Not so sure on going for the head but he looks to try and stamp on him, his hand at least

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What a complete looser, Peter Crouch wannabe at best. Realised RVP is 10x the player he is and decided to stamp him out for a few weeks. Hand balls into the net against us, lies on Live TV that he headed it in, causes hassle at Gunners gets rejected by Chelsea and UTD and dives on the Wanna Be Big Club Gravy train as a get out of Jail free.

Crappy little man at a crappy little club.

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Well, His is Man City's problem now. Good Luck to them. At least he is being the player he was in his first season for us for them.

He needs to be held to account for the stamp but I believe the yellow card for inciting the Arsenal fans (who themselves may be held to account for reacting the way they need, no excuse for that, surprising as well considering Arsenal fans are usually quiet)

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/8252803.stm

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With an attitude like his he's every team's problem.

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Ooh 1st time ive seen his stamping there , i have always wondered if certain players do this just to have a nice holiday you can just imagine them doing it ?there dumb and extremely lazy players who might think i know what a nice ban 3 weeks off time to spend some of this money.

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omg thats a nasty 1 from Ade on RVP, hope the git gets a nice lovely ban from the FA but doubt that will happen.

okay havent seen the game at all so cant comment on it but fair play to ManC for beating us like that.

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He could well get a 3 game ban (why not more?) as that's what Ball got for a stamp on Ronaldo few years ago.

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3 match ban if he is lucky. The more you look at that the worst it gets! :mad: He looks down and then deliberately goes for the stamp. That's it extreamly dangerous play, he drew blood and a gash on Van Persie's face! He is lucky he did not do more damage.

I believe there have been longer bans when it's more than a professional foul and a deliberate attempt to cause harm to a player.

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A lengthy ban is what's needed. Hopefully they don't just fine him, fining prem footballers doesn't do anything.

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The Adebayor incident really spoiled what was an fantastic game played at a good tempo with some real quality thrown in for good measure.
One thing i would like to say though is does the fact that Ade runs the full lengh of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Arsenal fans, give said fans the right to start hurling objects onto the pitch and causing mayhem?

The guy did incite it and should indeed be banned, plus a ban for the van Persie incident, say 5 games.
Hopefully Santa-Cruz will be fit and raring to go by then....

He may well be a Man-City `Problem` but it`s not a bad problem to have a player who has scored 4 in 4 now is it? Plus to have a ready made replacement if he starts behaving in a manner Mark Hughes doesn`t like(remember he was no shrinking violet)
All in all the actual football in this weekends premiership was absolutely top draw, from the Defoe overhead kick to Rooney playing up front on his own and causing just as much hassle as when he had Berbatov with him. Also Liverpool played some lovely stuff and Chelsea were, well Chelsea.
From these first 5 or 6 matches my conclusion is that United are not the same team without Ronaldo, Liverpool have plateaued, Chelsea look to have the best overall squad and chance of the title, Manchester City (the crappy little club!) are the real deal and Arsenal still have a soft underbelly.
The rest will be the usual suspects....

p.s. I thought City`s player of the match was a toss up between De Jong and Bellamy, even if we lose to Utd next week this has been an excellant start to such a newly formed squad.

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I think that Hughes could be the manager to knock some sense into adebayor.. He is a fantastic player but does need a short sharp shock!!!

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Absolutely not. The people who did that are being investigated by the police and hopefully they will be found out. Then they will be banned from the Emirates and every other stadium.

Quite funny in a way, Has anyone seen Arsenal fans get any louder than the occasional chant? Seeing them riot was very strange. :erm:

The problem with Adebayor is not how he acts when he is playing well, although yesterday proved that may not be true. It's when things at the club are tough or he is introduced to any form of criticism. Then, like he did at Arsenal, he gives up trying. Wenger after all is very good at controlling his players but he tends to get rid of the ego players.

Arsenal's last couple of losses are different to last season. Against United we were the better team for large portions of the game, even when we conceded it was against the run of play. I only saw highlights but although we didn't play as well as we did against United it's not as if the City result reflected the game.

Arsenal's problem is an inability to finish the chances we have a occasional mistake that let's us concede against the run of play. I mean we dominated periods of that game but as usual a lack of concentration and failure to convert chances cost us. Clubs like United and City have the quality to take advantage of that.

I have to admit to being wrong about City, I think next week will be a bigger task. Arsenal have the ability to snatch defeat from the claws of Victory. United have the ability to do the opposite.

So I think we still a bigger danger. So far I think the table will be:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. United
4. City

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Again, He is a ego player. If Hughes doesn't handle him right he will become the toxin in the dressing room he was for us. It's not about discipline, Wenger has the ability to do that. It's about managing his ego otherwise he will lose it again.