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Riiiight...

Feel free to use the 'report post' feature if you're feeling harassed at any time.

Re: Pandemic Flu - This one could be for real......
 

I did that once. the person I reported dealt with the report :D

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And for what its worth (I've had this confirmed by one of our pharmacists), the virus can lie dormant for 14 days, so he may not be showing symptoms 'yet'.

Its more than my job is worth to go into too much detail, but i'm now more worried than I was initially.

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If you're ticklish, I can get the info out of you :)

Obama was in Mexico during the outbreak, they said something about ‘The incubation period is 24 to 48 hours and we have been back from Mexico for nine days now. The doctors say he was not at risk.’

That was reported 2 days ago, so he's on the 14th day of dormancy now.

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If you dont like my angle on things then please dont reply with sarcastic remarks.

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I did. I found myself reporting every other post with no action being taken.

Re: Pandemic Flu - This one could be for real...
 

There was nothing sarcastic about that comment. In fact it was a clear concise well put point.

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Final warning people.

This is not a school yard, so stop acting like children. This thread has been re-opened.

If any more childish bickering, fighting or anything else we deem unsuitable continues, then the culprits will start to see their posts vanish and their infraction points rise.

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good, i came here for news / updates and all i found was a rubbish argument

One thing i think the media didnt pick up on straight away was the the young child (23 months?) who died in the US was from mexico.

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It did pick up on it, just opted not let the fact that a young child from Mexico that was already infected and unfortunately died does not = Virus has now swamped America.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8026121.stm

So the situation seems to be about where it was yesterday at the moment..I see little reason not to carry on with my normal activities for the moment.:shrug:

Re: Pandemic Flu - This one could be for real......
 

That was because it was clear me and Chaos got into a bit of an argument not long beofre your post no other reason.

If I am provided with a link I will read it and then decide myself. I speak for no-one else on that mattter.

Like I said its just clash of opinions/personalitys. It is a forum after all everyone is not going to agree. Plus when certain people see a conspiracy in everything it does make it a bit harder to believe them when there may be one. The saying "The boy who cried wolf" comes to mind.

Agreed :)

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I know people are dying in Mexico, and a few elsewhere no doubt, but I really don't see what the big deal is... well, not for us in the UK anyway - if people get symptoms, they phone nhs direct, and then the nhs send you some tamiflu or whatever.. and you'll probably be fine.

Why so many people are dying in Mexico - I've no idea, but from what I've seen on the news, people have been quite blase about it. :shrug:

What does worry me a little, is that the WHO has the impression that the UK is quite well equipped to deal with it - the first thing I would've expected was that people would be screened / tested upon returning from Mexico, as did people on flights from Mexico, who were told that they were going to be screened upon return to London... but they weren't. :confused:

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Yes, I heard some passengers being interviewed about that yesterday and saying they'd expected to be screened but were just allowed through, no questions asked...... :confused: It's exactly this sort of thing which accounts for my concern as to whether WHO's confidence in our health procedures was justified.

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I really havn't seen anything yet that tells me this is something to overly concern ourselves with at this point. Yes of course i have sympathy for the families of those that have died in mexico but i just right now feel this is being completely over stated and borders on sacre mongering.

Flu is something that happens every year in the UK and most places to one degree or another and most years we have many people die from it yet only this year is it a big thing. Right now i have this in the keep an eye on it but don't worry or alter anything i do category and that is where it belongs.

As for some of the speculation about what this is exactly who might have done this and that i really cannot be bothered with such rubbish and i don't think it is adding anything poistive to this subject whatsoever.

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I seen this on the news the other day to. Some of them were not even told what was going on at either end of their flight. Does seem a bit unorganised.

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Anyone have any links about people returning and not being detained for tests?

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I'll look but it was on the ITV news that I had seen it.

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I can't find anything about it. if it's true then it's irresponsible really. just heard on the news that the health minister who ever said there will be many many more cases in the UK.

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I've tried looking on the ITV website but cant find anything about it myself. Infact am just find article's about they are testing people. It was just a passenger being interviewed at an airport so maybe some crossed wires. Or maybe it was an interview from before they were taking it so seriously.

I beleive some companys are cutting flights to mexico now. I would of thought that all flights would of been cut by now if it's as serious as its being made out to be.

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Probably was.
27th April

Amid growing fears of a global flu outbreak, UK health authorities have said they do not plan to screen passengers arriving from Mexico for swine flu.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...rts-(yet).aspx

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I don't think anyone's posted this yet ...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/04/1.jpg

:D

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Already been posted.
harmitage #275

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Ha ha!!!

Still funny though!

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passengers not checked

from the Telegraph

passengers on same flight as Scottish couple won't be traced

need to sign up, but some headlines from airliners.net

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Ive had a sore throat since saturday cough since monday died off a bit but came back last night feeling achey but i'm confident i'll be reet , but suppose theres a chance i could of been in same room as a mexican holidayer or bus or pub or public place , it feels more like a boro flu than a mexican one i think ? i did have smokey bacon crisps last week but im not sure were the crisp manufacturer source there pork for there delicacies thats got to be spelt wrong , only other thing im thinking its a slow relaease from my leather moccasins which are 2 years old come this christmas.

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I think you're safe - probably more a case of man-flu ;)

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or pig-man-flu! An even worse evolution of the Swine Flu :shocked: We're all gonna die :(

Still not as bad as ManBearPig flu.

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Well that's just ridiculous really how the people who's job it is to check there's no threat coming into the country couldn't be bothered.
you can hear it now when the same people who weren't screened actually develop the virus. the government will be saying we are putting measures into place to ensure this doesn't happen again.

They didn't want to deliberately let the virus in did they?

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I was pretty shocked to exclaim through our flat's thin walls 'WHAT?!' watching that on the late night news... kinda seems that way doesn't it, sorry to offend anyone by encouraging any NWO theory, but :erm:

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It's in America, Canada and New Zealand too so I guess we should spend all our resources checking incoming flights from those countries too oh and don't forget Spain so better to check the rest of Europe too..do you see?

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That's not the point. the threat was flights coming in from Mexico. that's what these peoples jobs were. protect the country from the threat from Mexico at this stage.

Do you have an headache or a sore throat by any chance?
No.
Ok, you're no threat. I just have to ask because that's what my important job is.
Oh and I'm that rushed off my feet, I don't get to ask everyone. they've already jumped into a Taxi and on their way home.

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No, they didn't.

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You don't know that. no more than I know that they did.

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Bzzz! Sorry, wrong answer.

You make the charge, you prove it. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. "They did not want to let swine flu in" is a sound, correct statement until someone proves otherwise.

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I asked if they let the virus in on purpose. your opinion (I think it's an opinion, or is it fact that you base your answer on?) is that they didn't, and I said that you don't know for sure anymore than I know for sure that they did.

and you want me to prove my question, whilst your opinion has to be fact? :D

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You asked a rhetorical question. If you're now claiming that it was a genuine question in search of an answer, rather than a thinly veiled statement of what you think happened, then my opinion is you're back-tracking. Mind you if you're given to believe such paranoid nonsense I suppose back-tracking a little is no bad thing.

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If it was a rhetorical question that you quoted in answer to, then would your answer be any different if it was a genuine question? and is it not you backtracking knowing now that you answered as fact? :)

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Dress your paranoid fantasies up any way you like, you won't make anyone more likely to take them seriously.

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Could be worse - could be SpiderPig flu - apparently it makes you jaundiced....

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:.../spiderpig.jpg

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Thanks for the free psychological evaluation but as it's free I won't complain :)

If you think I'm not thinking rational, then you must think this one's off his head.

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Careful, you are displaying deep down psychological issues........ ;)

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Yup!

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He makes your posts sound positively Vulcan by comparison.

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The problem here is your are both doing different dances, you are doing the can-can whilst Chris is doing the sidestep ;)

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From this angle it looks like he's doing breakdancing to the Electric boogaloo :)

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Of course I am. I'm resisting the temptation to put logic and reason on the same footing as paranoid nonsense. The minute we allow ourselves to debate both as if they're of equal merit, we're sunk.

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One mans paranoia is another mans fear.
it's interesting that you give reasons to dismiss it, and why it's best to dismiss it. but you don't have to fight it. it don't bite :)

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The wife called me earlier and said " i`m getting low on fuel but i`m scared to fill up because of Swine Flu"
I said " you stupid cow!, It`s in Mexico, Not Texaco"...............:D

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:LOL:

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If one does not condemn rambling paranoid fantasies, one condones them.... (imho)

People are free to post what they wish - others are free to disagree with them.

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Nonsense.

Agreed.

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In your opinion - imho, not. ;)

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One of my sisters friends works for one ont the big banks in London, and they have been told that they may be issued with access codes to there work stations from home, if there is a country wide closure of businesses should the government raise the level.

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If that happens we can ask the government more about why they didn't bother screening people entering the country on flights from Mexico.

They need to be told that it could have been prevented if they just took it seriously enough.

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If they are not screening people coming back from mexico doesn't that say something about how concerned the authorities really are about all this. Personally as i have said while bad for mexico i think the rest of the world needs to get back to reality and stop fixating on something that so far has done nothing here.

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This whole story needs to be brought into the correct context.

There are approximately 110,000,000 people living in Mexico and only 125 death (last I heard) that in the grand scheme of things is nothing.

I would only be worried if the numbers start to rise massively, and I mean hundreds of thousands in more than one country.

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Yes. and that they are useless.

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That many?

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Still only 8 confirmed deaths (and renamed again - now Influenza A (H1N1) - so as not to offend pigs or Mexicans)

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_30_a/en/index.html

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Well I'd like to make a plea for all those ordinary, hard working and long suffering viruses out there who're quite unfairly coming under scrutiny now and having their daily lives disrupted for no good reason. It's outrageous and I reckon it's about time they were offered protection under the discrimination laws....

Oh and just to show how well parts of the NHS are prepared we have this. Perhaps those nice people at NHS direct haven't read that handy booklet yet.... :rolleyes:

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For a minute i though that was going to be my area :D

We're taking it very serious I'll have you know :p: Tomorrow morning we're having an 'extraordinary staff briefing' all about it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...s/viewpost.gif
I would only be worried if the numbers start to rise massively, and I mean hundreds of thousands in more than one country.


There are over 6,500,000,000 people in the world even thousands would be nothing aswell.

You have more chances of winning every lottery every draw for a year, than you have of coming in contact with this swine fever.

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Well I just want to let you know that I am very disappointed, and that you taking it seriously as from tomorrow and not before is very reassuring to all of us. but at least you can learn and learn some more from these mistakes to be ready for the next one. the one after the next one after the next one :)

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That has to be one of the most rediculas statements in this thread.

The odds of getting 6 numbers is 1 in 14 million. 5 people I believe have the disease in the uk and that number will increase. 60 million people in the UK so thats odds of 1 in 12 million already better odds than 6 numbers lol

Re: Pandemic (Swine) Flu
 

So you'd only be concerned if there were about 250,000 people in the UK had it? is that already dead, or dying? :)
It has the potential to kill millions worldwide.

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No I meant in other countries

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I trust you'll pass on our concerns.... ;)

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around 36,000 people die each year in the U.S. (far greater population than the UK) as a result of influenza. I don't see that in the news.... nor the fact that 200,000 people a year in the U.S. are hospitalised due to influenza.

source

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I can assure you they are taking it very seriously, from the hourly emails being sent out :rolleyes:

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What is it with this "it has the potential to kill millions" comment that is doing the rounds of course it has the potential along with hundreds if not thousands of other viruses and the like that doesn't mean it is going too or that it is even likely. From reading some posters on here i almost get the feeling they will be disappointed if this doesn't end up killing hundreds of thousands of people how little it takes for some people to lose all sense of perspective and reality. I think this virus has shown a lot more about some people then it has about anything else.

Re: Pandemic (Swine) Flu
 

The whole "potential to kill millions" has been completely hyped up, a LOT of viruses have that potential, the Ebola virus for example kills around 90% of the people who catch it. The was and outbreak of an airborn mutation that thankfully was not catchable by humans.

Now we are going more headlines saying that it has been passed from person to person in the UK.

The FLU virus being passed person to person, I JUST can't belive it :shocked::shocked: what will we do.

JJ

JJ

Re: Pandemic (Swine) Flu
 

Well I bet the various medical companies and vaccine manufacturers are rubbing their hands with glee.....

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Just checking that we're all still alive?

Will check again tomorrow.

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What conclusion will you draw if we don't all respond to your post though? ;)

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http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/051109/bish.gif

How it all really started.......

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/05/92.jpg

Where it originated from.........

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8028371.stm

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I love how people are pushing the conspiracy angle with absolutely no understanding of the science and a couple of links to a blog from someone who equally has no understanding of science. For some reason people think that two different opinions are equally, even if one is factually wrong. Typical conspiracy angle rubbish, one day these people will learn the value of evidence.

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For me it's not the threat of being killed by the swine flu, it's being incapacitated for a few days. If the wife and I both got infected who would look after our 4yr? Even worse, I just couldn't bare it if our daughter sufferred for a few days :(

I've had the normal seasonal flu, and when you have it it does feel like you're going to die, and tbh, you feel you hope you do!!!

The WHO threat level, currently at 5, tells me when the above nightmare will take place, or has a high chance of taking place.

That's what I'm worried about.

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I just sneezed. If I'm going down I'm taking you all with me :D

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Good news :)

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It wont make any difference to us. Its already spread. Mexico should have shut down on Saturday last week.

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The good news he's referring to is the fact that scientists believe this is a mild strain of the flu. So even if we do all get it, it's not going to do a lot of damage.

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wierd man wierd

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We're all going up mate. send us a postcard from the depths :D

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A fine example of scared people going way OTT, no swine flu in the country and pigs aren't responsible for passing it anyway, still kill 'em all and the government says no compo because they can sell the meat, who'd buy a bacon sarnie coz of the media hype though, still they wont starve, as a modern day Marie Antoinette might be credited with saying, 'let them eat pork'

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...Tf9iAD97S7UPG2

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David Aaronovitch has a new book out about this sort of thing (Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History), and had an article in the Sunday Times this week about 9/11 conspiracy theorists, but made the general point that "The construction and circulation of audio and visual material devoted to 9/ll revisionism is easy on the internet. Cheap movies, often made using material not cleared for copyright, made and narrated by non-professional film-makers, have been posted on Google video, YouTube and other sites specialising in moving pictures. Invariably such items make the same claims to accuracy and balance as do mainstream TV programmes, but have been concocted with the smallest fraction of research and resource, though no little ingenuity".

I think the same thing is happening with the H1N1 outbreak - people are supposed to extend the same credibility that is given to Subject Matter Experts and the World Health Organisation, to proponents of various conspiracy theories such as "it is a man-made virus released by government agencies/New World Order/insert boogie-man of choice" (imho), who do not supply any evidence (that stands up to independent scrutiny). Should David Irving be given the same credence as the Holocaust Memorial Museum, or the National Enquirer the same factual equivalency as the Encyclopedia Brittanica?

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Thanks for that. I have ordered that book on Amazon, Always been interested in why people believe in conspiracies so willingly, they hunt them out. That quote is correct in the double standard of those people though, the insistence on 'research' (which is a smoke screen to try and suppress superstition) yet they are awfully uninformed as they constructed a world in which the flaws in their logic are not confronted and instead the narrative in entirely supportive of their views.

The Alex Jones video where he tried to claim 7/7 happened before the elections? (Doesn't take much research to find out the date of an election does it? ;)). As well as these blogs trying to claim that "this virus had to be made in a lab" astonishing ignorance and then they call everyone else 'blind'.

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Well that not entirely true. The scientists dont really know how bad its going to be yet as they dont know enough about the virus. Although people only suffering with mild symtoms is encouraging, thats not to say the severity will not get worse.

The askhams are reported to be in a worst state today than when they left hospital.

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They seem well enough to have contacted Max Clifford and sold their story to the Daily Hate......;)

BBC

Daily Hate

Latest update from the Doctors at WHO
"1 May 2009 --The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 06:00 GMT, 1 May 2009, 11 countries have officially reported 331 cases of influenza A(H1N1) infection.
The United States Government has reported 109 laboratory confirmed human cases, including one death. Mexico has reported 156 confirmed human cases of infection, including nine deaths.
The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (34), Germany (3), Israel (2), Netherlands (1), New Zealand (3), Spain (13), Switzerland (1) and the United Kingdom (8).
Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO website on a regular basis. WHO advises no restriction of regular travel or closure of borders. It is considered prudent for people who are ill to delay international travel and for people developing symptoms following international travel to seek medical attention, in line with guidance from national authorities."

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Actually I believe Chaos (quite correctly) considers talking to Max Clifford and the Daily Mail is a serious symptom of the illness.

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Ok i think it is well and truly time to leave this thread before i respond to a certain comment in a way that will get me suspended. There is little left to debate anyway so perhaps a good time for this to die.

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I was talking to girl in Mexico last night who currently has swine flu. I asked her how it compares to regular flu and she's replied "Just the same.".

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A man rang up NHS direct yesterday but initially, couldn’t get through. All he got was crackling.

Eventually he did manage to get through and told them he was coming out in “rashers�.

Their advice was simple. “Just rub some oinkment on the affected area and stay off work for a weeeeeeeek�….

You may laugh. You may say it snout to do with me…..However there are many people out there that think this is the beginning of the end. Yes, that’s right. The “aporkalypse�!

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The aporkalypse sow?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/05/91.jpg

btw, for those who like(?) multi-layered puns, it's a Vietnamese (pot bellied) pig..... :D

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From the user HappyToast on B3TA..


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/05/39.gif

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The HPA has confirmed a case in Merseyside, i wouldn't be surprised if it was my patch as there has been a lot of whispers about a 'few' suspected cases :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8028974.stm

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The French have got it.

They'll proberly blame us for giving it to them

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...irus_Infection