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Gomes is already flop of the season imo.

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Big LOLs at Arsenal getting beaten at home by Villa! :D

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The title will be tight this season, unfortunately for you, your lot won't be up there to contest it......:D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/7711284.stm

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totally agree there Yesman...its ups and downs at the moment with Arsenal... think we should let the young'uns play a game see if that helps.

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Villas best result of the season so far (particularly when you take into account our shocking performances against Newcastle and Boro).

If we can keep this up, I'm actually sneakily confident about finishing in (whisper it) fourth place :erm: :)

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Next weeks game should be a breeze for you lot now then. ;)

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Excellent result for the boyos :D

I didn't think I would say it, but
 

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Gallas does a Keano, and reveals what really goes on at the Emirates

He has obviously had enough

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1958625.ece

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...531574,00.html

Hahahaha, brilliant, i love it when things like this happen at Arsenal :D

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ROFL @ Arsenal! Beaten 3-0 by Man City. Their season is falling apart! :D

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Quoted coz it's nice to see again :D

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Quoted yet again as I'm the only gay city fan on the forum ;) :p:

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Really? :D

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It's a day of surprises in the top flight. Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United all drawing 0-0, and Arsenal losing 3-0 and going out of the top 4 for the first time since Hull were 3rd! Villa can't keep this up, surely...

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well I totally dont know whats wrong at Arsenal....beaten by villa then Man C. whats next beaten by plymouth argyle?

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Nah, beaten by Grimsby! :D

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From Dailymail lmao (attached cartoon caption). Plus he's off to Sunderland in the transfer window ;)

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It's good to see Chelsea sweat, but I have no doubt they will get through...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/7741480.stm

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Poor ol Swansea :D

FA Cup third round draw:

Portsmouth v Bristol City
Sheffield Wed v Fulham
Preston v Liverpool
Birmingham v Wolves
West Ham v Barnsley
Middlesbrough v Barrow
Hull City v Newcastle
Hartlepool v Stoke
Chelsea v Southend
Manchester City v Nottingham Forest
Cardiff v Reading
Ipswich v Chesterfield or Droylesden
Charlton v Norwich
West Brom v Peterborough or Tranmere
Torquay v Blackpool
Leyton Orient v Sheffield United
Southampton v Manchester United
Millwall v Carlisle or Crewe
Histon v Swansea
Forest Green Rovers v Derby

Fantastic result for Histon today

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What's wrong with a draw? It wasn't a bad result really. Would have been nice if we'd beaten the Cardiff though.

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edit: didn't read the rest of the post :D

Ah well :D

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We only needed 10 men to beat the blue half today. :D

Oh.........Best have a few more birthday beers Kymmy, just to numb the pain a little. :PP: :angel:

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I'd have settled for a draw but.....nice one Arsenal!

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A win for a Histon and a win for Arsenal, happy days!

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what Russ you feeling alright you supporting Arsenal for a change :shocked:

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If Cambridge beat Man United you'd be pleased right? Does that mean you're suddenly a Cambridge supporter?? ;)

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I'm happy with both key results today. Utd winning is a bonus, but Arsenal trouncing all over Chelsea in the second half is the veritable cherry on the cake! At least it could stop Chelsea running away with the title! :D

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Why did you choose such a rubbish team for that example :shocked:

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Oh...no reason :angel:

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I was just delighted when that cheating Ronaldo, was sent off, he is the biggest cheat in football, along with John Terry, both these players would not have lasted five minutes in the days of Vinnie Jones, when football was played by fooballers, and not the pansies these days. It is all silly money now, and l have been a football fan for years, and see better football on a Sunday morning, when players pay to get on the pitch.

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:rolleyes:

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Are you saying vinnie jones never cheated? :shocked:

I used to love the Crazy Gang, in the days of Vinnie, Fash, Dennis Wise etc etc. To insinuate they never cheated is a bit of a statement to make. Oh and I used to support them before the club was carted of to Milton Keynes so its not like I dont like them or anything like that.

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Every football fan knows, that so called 'top class' players, only have to be blown on, and they fall over, for example Rooney, does his nut, if he gets tackled, and goes down, jumps up and starts swearing at the ref, if he doesn't get the kick, Ronaldo does it, quite well he should get an oscar, John Terry does it when the ref isn't looking. What l am saying, in the days of Vinnie, when he went in for a tackle, you felt it, l can always remember, when Vinnie took out a Spurs player, many years ago, and you felt it.

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Like everything, things change. Please try moving with the times instead of bitter nostalgia.

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Vinnie Jones, pfft.. a pansy. give me Dave Mackay or Norman Hunter any day. They were hard, Jones was just a dirty git.

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ALL players cheat and dive and feign injury now. It happens in the Championship and probably lower down the league too. Lets face it if the player reactions were real then the sport of boxing and rugby would have to be banned

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Arsenal's up and down season continues... :D

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Well, as Alan Hansen says, "you won't win anything with kids". Thats unless you are Man Utd of course.

Well done Burnley, three Premiership scalps now.:cool:

Jim.

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To quote my MSN status: Burnley 2-0 Arsenal. LMFAO!!!

Epic from Burnley. If they get Man Utd in the next round and they pull it off (and I hope they don't), I'll be mighty impressed.

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Arsenal always go out around about now in the Carling cup. Only big team that trys that hard is Spurs.

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i don't think there is too much to worry about the Carling Cup it's just something for the kids to enter and if they get knocked out no great loss.

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Aw come on, let's not play down a famous Arsenal loss :D

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Especially as it seems to be their most realistic route to winning a trophy this season.

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Real Madrid goalkeeper Iker Casillas has rejected a move to Manchester City. The Premier League big spenders tabled a world record £129m bid. (Private Spanish radio station Cadena Ser)


If that's true, wow. It's good to see players who are not tempted to move to a club just for money. I suppose them being in the bottom six may have also swayed his decision :p:

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Plus the fact they're Manchester City :D

I'm impressed at how no-one seems to be falling over themselves to join City. At least when Roman took over at Chelski they were an above average side.

Seems like City are having trouble convincing anyone they'll be any good - even Robinho seems to be his doubts.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/7762389.stm

On a different matter this looks interesting. I'd only be confident if the Scottish FA took charge though, seeing as the Welsh FA couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel.

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Big team :rofl:

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I cannot believe thats true for a minute. And is Casillas even worth half that money?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...premier-league

The FA are officially a joke. How can Liverpool get away with a number of players, fans and the club as a whole giving support to a person who has been convicted of attempted murder? They punish and fine a player who showed support to a friend who is in prison after scoring a goal but then turn a blind eye to all of this. For those that don't know there's a rule that forbids those involved in the game using it as a platform to demonstrate in favour of any political causes. The FA even charged Steven Pienaar last weekend for showing a shirt that said 'God is Great' on it. The FA need to grow a pair and do something about it, what a joke.

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There was also a big event in the run up to kick off where someone gave a speech about it. So that was orchestrated by the club itself.

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Big team?

Like honours maybe?

-> First British team to win the UEFA cup
-> And also the last British team to win it.
-> First British club to win the UEFA Cup Winners Cup.
-> First English team to win the league and cup double in the modern era.
-> 3rd ranked team in England for FA Cup wins.
-> 2 5th placed finishes in 3 years, 1 point from Champions League qualification.
-> We've won the league, FA cup, league cup, UEFA cup, Cup Winner's Cup. Also we weren't relegated a few years ago.

Business wise maybe?

-> 5th biggest club in England and Scotland according to Doloitte and Forbes (over twice the value of West Ham, who are below Everton)
-> Finances improving all the time, increasing profit all the time. (note, West Ham lost $22m, we earnt $64m)
-> Our owner loses £600m in one failed deal and doesn't even blink. Even after, he remains the 16th richest man in Britain
-> We've spent £44m alone in purchasing properties to enable us to build our new stadium.
-> During the economic down turn we've announced a £300m+ 60,000+ seater stadium will be built as well as brand new training facilities. Again, our transfer budget is protected.
-> Your biggest purchase is £7m. We regularly buy players £15m+
-> We don't have to make ends meet by renting out our executive boxes as a hotel on the side.

Fans maybe?

-> We have 22,000 waiting for season tickets
-> We have 70,000 club members

So yes, however you look at it, we are an under-performing big club. West Ham fans in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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It's become difficult keeping a straight face reading stuff like this.... :D

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...587315,00.html

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The difference is we don't think of ourselves as a big club like you charlies, your glory days were over long before most of us were born, get over it and accept the odd cup run is as good as it gets.

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Aren't Liverpool the last British team to win the UEFA cup?

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I thought you'd at least read my post. There's more to making a big club than history and results. Our current value by Forbes is higher than Inter, Lyon, Celtic, Borussia Dortmund and very close to Juventus. Deloitte puts us above Juve.

In any way you move your goal posts, doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

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Actually, you're right I forgot about that.

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In your opinion, imo it's all about history and results, anything else is pretty much out of the Alan Sugar football hand book

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I'm assuming this is all down to what constitutes a 'big' club.

During the 80s Man United were considered a 'big' club but in actual fact only occasionally won anything major and never came close to winning the league. Throw in a few high profile players, a controversial manager or two, an above average history and suddenly we have a big club.

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I'd say the only true measure is value and international standing. Something United (and us, to a lesser degree) have always had. Not results and to a lesser degree history (although history helps increase international standing)

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Devils advocate here, but didn't someone else actually admit that they'd been responsible for the death of the victim? Might have had some impact on the ruling?

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I'd say another good indicator is whether you sell your best players every season or not to

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I think that's what mitigated it, but the rule doesn't specify exemptions for miscarriages of justice. Or technically suspected miscarriages of justice as the the person withdrew their confession.

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Oh yeah, the guy who admitted it but at the same time was not prepared to stand trial and nearly everything he said in his confession was different to what all the eyewitnesses said. Also i'm sure all the witnesses who identified Shields as the attacker were all wrong and it was a guy no one recognised? It shouldn't matter anyway, just because the outcome of the trial didn't go the way Liverpool wanted it to go doesn't give them the right to break FA rules and get away with it.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Keano jumps ship.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/7764671.stm

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Tevez is da man! Why isn't he in the "regular" Utd starting lineup? 4 goals against (an under-performing, let's be honest) Blackburn Rovers deserves a lot of recognition. I'm still waiting for someone to equal the 5 scored by Ince against Ipswich (the 9-0 rout in the 90s :D).

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He only scored 3 - and he hasn't yet proven himself against a more established team this season.

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That was Andy Cole :D

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Sorry, knew it was a black man, just couldn't remember which. :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Evra gets a four match ban for the Stamford Bridge punch up, and cops a large fine. Chelski also fined.

Link added.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/7764530.stm

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There you go Shadow Demon. Your outburst about the FA being a joke has been taken on board and sensible decisions are being made. :)

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The 45 yard 'squiggler' :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7770973.stm

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:rofl:

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Ramos replaces Schuster at Real

Real Madrid don't seem to care about his failings at Spurs.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Heard the new Arsenal theme song.

" Dont blame it on the sunshine,

Dont blame it on the moonlight,

Dont blame it on the good times,

Blame it on Eboue". :D

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liverpool to win the prem this season

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I think the booing of Eboue was very harsh, our team is already in a little bit of turmoil and the fans want to add it to it by doing something like that?

He's a RB anyway so i don't know why Wenger continues to play him as left mid/right mid.

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Oh dear have those jolly Gunners lost again???

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Yes. I don't see other premiership teams having the balls to field their young players in the champs league though, what's the future of football if the younger players never get a chance?

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Well you know what they say, you won't win anything with kids.

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"Cough",

Nanl, Anderson, Gibson, Rafael, Evans. How young do you want them to be.:rolleyes:

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But other teams realised there was still topping of the group to play for ;)

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/a138...ick-spray.html

If this takes off what's the betting the Emirates Stadium groundsman gets told to invent a pitch coating that makes the spray disappear in 5 seconds...

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Spurs have released pictures of their proposed new stadium. I wonder how they plan to finance such a structure, given the current financial climate? Oversea's investment probably.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4...hampic1pw4.jpg

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Good to see that, unlike in F1, the governing body is fair and punishes even the biggest teams. Football is a clean game (nowadays to excess actually, IMO), and players need to start learning to control themselves.

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Well, looks like Blackburn ran out of patience with Mr Ince: Link

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How do clubs expect to get anywhere if they sack a manager after half a season. managers need time to build their teams like manchester united did with fergi and now liverpool have done the same with rafa.

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That only works if you have the right manager to begin with. Benitez had won the league and done well in Europe with Valencia before joining Liverpool, and Ferguson is still the last non-Old Firm manager to win the SPL, and I think the last manager to win a European trophy with a Scottish side. Both came to England with proven track records. Ince had a few seasons in League 2.

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yeah thats a good point, it would be good if young managers were given a few seasons like southgate has had at middlesborough to build a team but i dont think its gonna happen.

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The thing is you can't give managers time, due to how bad relegation is. If Ince carried on much longer, Blackburn wouldn't have been in a repairable position. Same with Spurs. Few people actually wanted Wendy gone, but had he stayed until January or later, I don't think we could have saved the season regardless who we brought in.

The gap between the two leagues is massive and getting larger. The drop can cost club so much in lost millions that they have to sell players, etc, that has a cascading effect.

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Remember for the first couple of seasons United struggled like hell to perform with Ferguson, from what I have heard he was a cigarette paper away from being sacked, but I am willing to bet United are sure glad they stuck with him.

Nowadays I think there is a prevalent culture to blame managers of football teams, and not enough blame for bad performances fall on the players that are often just as much at fault IMO

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Blackburn finally appoint the manager I thought they should have gone for in the first place, Sam Allardyce! LINK

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Champions league draw:

Chelsea v Juventus
Villarreal v Panathinaikos
Sporting Lisbon v Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid v Porto
Lyon v Barcelona
Real Madrid v Liverpool
Arsenal v Roma
Inter Milan v Manchester United

The English clubs had to get the hardest matches....

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UEFA CUP LAST 32 DRAW

Paris St Germain v Wolfsburg
FC Copenhagen v MANCHESTER CITY
NEC Nijmegen v Hamburg
Sampdoria v Metalist Kharkiv
Braga v Standard Liege
ASTON VILLA v CSKA Moscow
Lech Poznan v Udinese
Olympiakos v St Etienne
Fiorentina v Ajax
Aalborg v Deportivo La Coruna
Werder Bremen v AC Milan
Bordeaux v FC Galatasaray
Dynamo Kiev v Valencia
Zenit St Petersburg v VfB Stuttgart
Marseille v FC Twente
Shakhtar Donetsk v TOTTENHAM

UEFA CUP ROUND OF 16 DRAW

Werder Bremen/AC Milan v Olympiakos/St Etienne
ASTON VILLA/CSKA Moscow v Shakhtar Donetsk/TOTTENHAM
Lech Poznan/Udinese v Zenit St Petersburg/VfB Stuttgart
Paris St Germain/Wolfsburg v Braga/Standard Liege
Dynamo Kiev/Valencia v Sampdoria/Metalist Kharkiv
FC Copenhagen/MANCHESTER CITY v Aalborg/Deportivo La Coruna
Marseille v FC Twente v Fiorentina/Ajax
NEC Nijmegen/Hamburg v Bordeaux v FC Galatasaray

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Manchester City are weighing up an approach to West Ham for £7m-rated Welsh striker Craig Bellamy. (Daily Mail)

Strange move by Hughes. Surely Ronaldo, Torres, Kaka and Villa wont all be able to start with Bellamy being there :confused: :D

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I know that it's a slightly false position because of Man U having a couple of games in hand, but Villa in 3rd :shocked:

MO'Ns claret and blue army march on :)

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I think it would be good to get a new team into the top four this season and well done to Villa for a great season so far. Would love to se you get fourth and Arsenal fifth :D

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Now officially Champions on England, Europe and now the World :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/7793438.stm

Of course, if we'd lost it would just be a Mickey-mouse cup :D

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Shame about Swansea only managing a draw against Blackpool yesterday - still the play-offs aren't out of reach and I'm still hoping we make it to the premiership by May :)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo....html?ITO=1490

Well done Sir Alex, that's actually really decent of you. :clap: (That's not a typo, I really did refer to him as Sir. Its probably going to be the one and only time though :p: )

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Villa are getting played off the park in the 2nd half.....lawl.

Ok they're back in it :\

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Although saying that, going on my (dodgy) calculations if the score stays as it is, ARSEnal will only go back to 4th due to the spelling of their name as alphabetically it comes before Aston Villa.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/7800688.stm

About time.

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Nope I was wrong, Arsenal still stuck in 5th place :)