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Chrysalis 08-05-2004 03:56

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ntl's network is far from over loaded, its a regional problem to do with ubr's and local networks.

tkiely 08-05-2004 08:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick
You need to give 30 days notice by writing.

No you don't! just one phone call does it all.

Then they call you back and beg you to stay.

just say NO!

Florence 08-05-2004 09:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by td444
And what are your opinions based on? Not defending NTL here, but your stabbing them without any evidence. My actual 1mbit NTL line is better (in latency and general performance) than my ADSL Nildram line.

And if the core network is so buggered, why I am, and so many others getting low latency to gaming servers? Low latency represents core routers NOT overloaded. High latency represents your overloaded theory.

Its only certain area's that are overloaded, and NTL are doing something about it. Took them 5 weeks for my area, all is good now, and I even got a refund for the time it was pants.

I dont mind rants, its just rants that are made on thin air that waste space and give people wrong impressions.

Then you was lucky I used to have a good connection... used is the word here. I contact them and get told there is nothing wrong. I use the chatroom and an NTL employee finds I do have problems he called it dunkeh syndrome as a member using that name had the same problem first and it took NTL ages to sort it out. The problem is the loss isn't all the time but when you seem to need it most. My son has now given up playing CS due to the irractic pings I get. On one forum with games I ping higher than some on NTLs 600K while I connected at 1mb.

If and until they admit that some are having severe problems they will offer nothing in return..
If I was just downloading all the time it perhaps isn't as noticeable...

I sat for 15 mins watching the downstream and it was up and down like a yoyo every few secs.

Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.3 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 33.4 dB
would jump to anything upto -0.3 dBmV and the SNR would jump around just as much and on another day it woud be more stable.

Ignition 08-05-2004 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kits
I use the chatroom and an NTL employee finds I do have problems he called it dunkeh syndrome as a member using that name had the same problem first and it took NTL ages to sort it out.

On one forum with games I ping higher than some on NTLs 600K while I connected at 1mb.

I sat for 15 mins watching the downstream and it was up and down like a yoyo every few secs.

Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.3 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 33.4 dB
would jump to anything upto -0.3 dBmV and the SNR would jump around just as much and on another day it woud be more stable.

OK :p

You don't have Dunkeh syndrome - his issues were on the upstream path, yours apparently are on the downstream one - your upstream is solid as you like from what I've seen of it.

It's something pretty local to you, to be honest I suspect it's the cable connecting modem to outlet, you described it as getting hot which makes me think it's not insulated properly.

Think you mean Power varied between +3dB and -3dB ?

See above though, methinks it's that coax if it's getting hot as you describe, that or modem, have you followed my suggestion and gotten a service call? Hopefully they'll get it fixed fairly easily as the fault, while unusual, is IMHO not a major one, apart from the effect it has.

Oh and 1Mbit does not give lower pings by default than 600k, how wide the pipe is and latency of data are two different things :)

Mick 08-05-2004 13:03

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Originally Posted by tkiely
No you don't! just one phone call does it all.

Then they call you back and beg you to stay.

just say NO!

I would strongly advise still sending notice in writing and sending it by recorded delivery.

Bill C 08-05-2004 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kits
Then you was lucky I used to have a good connection... used is the word here. I contact them and get told there is nothing wrong. I use the chatroom and an NTL employee finds I do have problems he called it dunkeh syndrome as a member using that name had the same problem first and it took NTL ages to sort it out. The problem is the loss isn't all the time but when you seem to need it most. My son has now given up playing CS due to the irractic pings I get. On one forum with games I ping higher than some on NTLs 600K while I connected at 1mb.

If and until they admit that some are having severe problems they will offer nothing in return..
If I was just downloading all the time it perhaps isn't as noticeable...

I sat for 15 mins watching the downstream and it was up and down like a yoyo every few secs.






Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.3 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 33.4 dB
would jump to anything upto -0.3 dBmV and the SNR would jump around just as much and on another day it woud be more stable.




I can get this sorted for you if its local just send me a PM if you want me to get involved :)

DeadKenny 08-05-2004 14:15

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b
OK :p

You don't have Dunkeh syndrome - his issues were on the upstream path

That's what I had then

Bill C 08-05-2004 15:48

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Originally Posted by DeadKenny
That's what I had then


:LOL: think you should talk to a doctor :D

Chrysalis 08-05-2004 23:16

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I agree on the core network not been overloaded, if it was we would all be seeing issues, issues are localised.

dre101 09-05-2004 15:44

BB Speeds
 
Sorry if this has already been brought up but does anyone know when the BB speeds will be upgraded?

thanx

Mick 09-05-2004 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dre101
Sorry if this has already been brought up but does anyone know when the BB speeds will be upgraded?

thanx

No set date for the speed upgrades. NTL have only said late summer.

ppolo99 09-05-2004 21:05

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My mate in west midlands was upgraded on friday.

Mick 10-05-2004 09:32

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Originally Posted by ppolo99
My mate in west midlands was upgraded on friday.

Erm are you sure about that? - ntl have not rolled out the new speeds and will not be doing so until late summer as announced.

Neil 10-05-2004 09:45

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Originally Posted by ppolo99
My mate in west midlands was upgraded on friday.

He/she is presumably a Telewest customer, & not an ntl one being in the West Midlands?

Richard M 10-05-2004 10:21

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Originally Posted by Mick
Erm are you sure about that? - ntl have not rolled out the new speeds and will not be doing so until late summer as announced.

Somebody in work who has NTL said that the new speeds were showing on the upgrade or sales pages? :confused:

rdhw 10-05-2004 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick
ntl .... will not be doing so until late summer as announced.

My recollection was that the announcement said later this summer, not late summer.

andygrif 10-05-2004 14:13

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Correct - although I guess you could read 'later in the summer' in a couple of different ways, although saying 'late summer' would probably do more favours becuase then ntl would look good if it was before. All semantics really!

DeadKenny 10-05-2004 14:31

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You may as well just say "coming soon" ;)


I wonder if this will be "subject to regional availability" ;)

Chris W 10-05-2004 14:59

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Originally Posted by Richard M
Somebody in work who has NTL said that the new speeds were showing on the upgrade or sales pages? :confused:

not quite sure what they are referring too... but i can't find anything about it. It won't be on the upgrade pages because it will all be done automatically... :confused:

DbzDP 10-05-2004 19:09

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If they make the 600k to 750k so it download at like 85kb ? On my 600k I can download at a max of 70kb.

kronas 10-05-2004 19:14

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Originally Posted by andygrif
Correct - although I guess you could read 'later in the summer' in a couple of different ways, although saying 'late summer' would probably do more favours becuase then ntl would look good if it was before. All semantics really!


"late summer" of what year though ? :erm: ;) :D :pp

EDIT: or should that be later in what summer ? :D

paulyoung666 10-05-2004 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DbzDP
If they make the 600k to 750k so it download at like 85kb ? On my 600k I can download at a max of 70kb.


uhh yeah :)

Paul 10-05-2004 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DbzDP
If they make the 600k to 750k so it download at like 85kb ? On my 600k I can download at a max of 70kb.

In theory you will get about 93kb - in practice you should get about 90kb/sec. :)

paulyoung666 10-05-2004 20:11

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Originally Posted by Pem
In theory you will get about 93kb - in practice you should get about 90kb/sec. :)


thought it would be more like 86k meself :confused: :D

Vegeta 10-05-2004 23:53

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Is there going to be a price increase on the 600k package?

Chris W 10-05-2004 23:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegeta
Is there going to be a price increase on the 600k package?

nope ;) just a speed increase

MB

madcap 20-05-2004 13:06

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A friend of mine who is in a blueyonder area has had his speed increased today. Hopefully "later this summer" will be here soon fo us NTL'ers :)

DeadKenny 20-05-2004 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegeta
Is there going to be a price increase on the 600k package?

Not at the moment, but the trend for NTL seems to be to raise prices not drop them so I wouldn't rule it out in the future.

DeadKenny 20-05-2004 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madcap
A friend of mine who is in a blueyonder area has had his speed increased today. Hopefully "later this summer" will be here soon fo us NTL'ers :)

"later this summer" smacks of the old NTL saying "coming soon" :rolleyes:

I remember the digital telly days... "comming soon", "end of the year", "middle of the next year"... blah, blah... 3 years later, nothing, whilst Sky had Digital all that time. Got fed up and jumped ship to Sky. Even when NTL got digital telly it was a good couple of years before they managed simple things like widescreen support and an interactive service (and even now I think there are problems getting RGB output in some areas depending on the box).

Chrysalis 20-05-2004 23:15

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deadkenny ntl is yet to offer a universal digital service so they not there yet.

Bugblatter 20-05-2004 23:27

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I have just run the speed test on Robin Walker's CM pages. I am on NTL's 150k service. Results:

Thu, 20 May 2004 22:26:35 UTC
1st 128K took 4217 ms = 31082 Bytes/sec = approx 259 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 4226 ms = 31016 Bytes/sec = approx 258 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 4506 ms = 29088 Bytes/sec = approx 242 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 4467 ms = 29342 Bytes/sec = approx 244 kbits/sec

Does this mean I am getting 250k? :)

Jon M 21-05-2004 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugblatter
Does this mean I am getting 250k? :)

From those figures, yes

If it was cached the numbers would be far higher.

What do you get from this speed test?: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

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I get these results on a 256k leased line:
1st 128K took 9594 ms = 13662 Bytes/sec = approx 114 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 9562 ms = 13708 Bytes/sec = approx 114 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 6688 ms = 19598 Bytes/sec = approx 163 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 9687 ms = 13531 Bytes/sec = approx 113 kbits/sec

It looks like i'm not getting full bandwidth allocation (no idea how many of my users are online at the moment) but you are more likely on 300k rather than 250k based on the overheads factored into most results of this kind.

SMHarman 21-05-2004 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugblatter
I have just run the speed test on Robin Walker's CM pages. I am on NTL's 150k service. Results:

<snip>

Does this mean I am getting 250k? :)

Yes - are you getting BB through a STB? The upgrade should show around 300k for you.

Belfast_boi 21-05-2004 10:51

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so when NTL update on whatever date it will be, will they be setting a 1GB/per day cap?

SMHarman 21-05-2004 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Belfast_boi
so when NTL update on whatever date it will be, will they be setting a 1GB/per day cap?

The 1Gb per day guidance limit, still stands. Indications are that this will not be revised. For all the whinging this generates, few elusive letters exist. Carry on surfing, streaming, downloading and worry when the letter comes.

Belfast_boi 21-05-2004 11:13

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I thought that once you use your 1GB, you'd get cut off?

Chris 21-05-2004 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Belfast_boi
I thought that once you use your 1GB, you'd get cut off?

nope, you (allegedly) get a threatening letter first, although as others have said, examples of these letters are very rare indeed.

SMHarman 21-05-2004 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Belfast_boi
I thought that once you use your 1GB, you'd get cut off?

Oooh, now that would be a cap. Then we could have a proper debate. No it's just reasonable useage (as stated in the contract), and this is NTLs definition of reasonable usage.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=12590

indicates that the Caps applied to some other products sold as limited use (NTL is sold as unlimited) are pretty damn tight, and they do cut you off.

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A glance down at the small print on Tiscaliââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s entry-level ADSL product reveals that youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re limited to 50 hours of surfing a month. And the press and TV ads for BTââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s most recent ADSL service fail to spell out how frustrated youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll be when you realise that the monthly subscription allows you only 1GB of traffic (upload and download combined) per month. A typical Windows service pack download would eat 15% of your monthly BT quota.
Capped services such as these are probably best avoided, especially as it is possible to get an unlimited connection for almost the same price if you shop around. These restricted packages are the deals consumer columns in tabloid newspapers would refer to as rip-offs, designed to con unsuspecting technophobes who assume that big-name providers are a safe bet and offer the best value.

Belfast_boi 21-05-2004 13:06

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oh rite, thanx.

Bugblatter 21-05-2004 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r
From those figures, yes

If it was cached the numbers would be far higher.

What do you get from this speed test?: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

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Direction Actual Speed True Speed (estimated)

Downstream 241 Kbps (30.1 KB/sec) 260 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 122 Kbps (15.3 KB/sec) 131 Kbps (inc. overheads)

Interesting. :) BTW Thanks for the link.

punky 21-05-2004 23:23

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I have tried to search through this thread (i'm a good boy, honest), but has anyone heard either way about the speed increase for STB in ex C&W areas. Last I heard people were talking about wether the STB itself (mines a 4000) can handle data transfers above 1meg. Anyone heard any conclusion to this, either way?

I don't really want to beg anyone for anything, least of all NTL for a SACM. But if I have to, what are my chances, realistically? Some people seem to have more luck than others. And I don't want to enter into a new contract either.

abailey152 22-05-2004 01:28

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The possible increase in speeds is good news, but it would be better if,

a) NTL sort out the crappy email system to make it more reliable, and stop at least SOME spam.

b) They sort out why I have to reboot my STB at least twice a week.

c) Either remove or increase the cap.

d) Sort out the continuous issues with the "transparent" proxy servers.

All these problems, and all they do is a bit of tweaking of the d/l speeds. Of course, they can brag about their increased speeds in the usual marketing BS, whereas all these other issues would only mean better customer service, which is something that NTL puts right at the bottom of its list of priorities. :mad:

baldy 22-05-2004 06:40

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a) NTL sort out the crappy email system to make it more reliable, and stop at least SOME spam.
see here. You cannot please everyone when dealing with SPAM, some are in favour of blocking at server whilst others prefer to deal with it themselves. No matter what ntl do they will get slated by some people. ntl will never win this battle, I'd prefer tougher legislation therby taking 'ownership' away from ISP's.

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b) They sort out why I have to reboot my STB at least twice a week.
probably power level related, have you called ntl faults?

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c) Either remove or increase the cap.
Irrelevant to most users. The people I have seen affected by this clause have been extreme bandwidth hogs, well over the suggested limits. I would like to add that I disagree with the way it is worded and would like to see more emphasis on the upload as it causes more disruption.

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d) Sort out the continuous issues with the "transparent" proxy servers.
Happening quite regularly. Luton caches were upgraded this week.

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All these problems, and all they do is a bit of tweaking of the d/l speeds. Of course, they can brag about their increased speeds in the usual marketing BS, whereas all these other issues would only mean better customer service, which is something that NTL puts right at the bottom of its list of priorities. :mad:
Swings and roundabouts; you have to make money to spend money on improvements. Given the state ntl were in last year they are not doing to bad on the upgrade side. Admittedly, there are some areas that require substantial investment and planning.

abailey152 22-05-2004 09:30

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Originally Posted by baldy
see here. You cannot please everyone when dealing with SPAM, some are in favour of blocking at server whilst others prefer to deal with it themselves. No matter what ntl do they will get slated by some people. ntl will never win this battle, I'd prefer tougher legislation therby taking 'ownership' away from ISP's.

Something could be done. If spam filtering is so haphazard, why does my filtering software work so well? And without much user intervention. No, I think most of the anti-spam-blocking group feel that way because they just know what a total pigs-ear NTL will make of it.

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probably power level related, have you called ntl faults?
This is my third STB. Each time it has been replaced, I've spent the evening telephoning CS as they seem to lose half of my channels. A friend of mine has been on a STB which he used to reboot regularly, but now he's on a CM which he still has to reboot. Another friend of mine on a CM....same there! This seems like a problem in the area. Are NTL interested? NO!


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Irrelevant to most users. The people I have seen affected by this clause have been extreme bandwidth hogs, well over the suggested limits. I would like to add that I disagree with the way it is worded and would like to see more emphasis on the upload as it causes more disruption.
The levels are a problem. Check out this thread,

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=7849

For someone on 160k, 1Gb is plenty but it doesn't take long to rack up that amount of usage on 1Mb. If the speeds increase, it'll be worse. Granted, there does perhaps need a cap of some sort, but the current "fixed" level across the range of speeds is totally wrong. The cap should increase as the speed increases.


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Happening quite regularly. Luton caches were upgraded this week.
Every time NTL does "load balancing" I lose access to sites. I have to change my proxy manually to get access back. Why? I know of no other ISP who regularly have this problem. NTL shouldn't be working on this, it should have been fixed long ago.

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Swings and roundabouts; you have to make money to spend money on improvements. Given the state ntl were in last year they are not doing to bad on the upgrade side. Admittedly, there are some areas that require substantial investment and planning.
Yeah, NTL are doing great on the upgrade side aren't they? They have an email system which has been almost useless for the last week, a Usenet service which I gave up on quite some time ago, and a set of "transparent" proxy servers that are anything but. Yes, I agree they need to make money, but other ISP's seem to do alright, and don't seem to have the wide-spread problems NTL have. NTL didn't inherit an aged and creaking system. It was supposed to be state-of-the-art, so why is it broken all the time? Getting repairs done is a joke. It takes almost a week to get an engineer to call. For nearly £100 a month for the package, I think I'm justified in expecting a little better.

DeadKenny 22-05-2004 12:18

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On the spam issue, NTL could at least do what Freeserve do and just tag the messages that are likely to be spam. Then you can set up a rule to delete them.

I run my own mail server though and with my domain name(s), bypass NTL entirely. I get about 1 spam email every few months :D

poolking 22-05-2004 12:46

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Originally Posted by DeadKenny
On the spam issue, NTL could at least do what Freeserve do and just tag the messages that are likely to be spam. Then you can set up a rule to delete them.

I run my own mail server though and with my domain name(s), bypass NTL entirely. I get about 1 spam email every few months :D

What server software do you use, if you don't mind me asking? :)

DeadKenny 22-05-2004 13:29

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Originally Posted by poolking
What server software do you use, if you don't mind me asking? :)

Just the standard 'sendmail' you get with Fedora Core 1, combined with IMAP to let me retrieve the mail from Outlook on another machine, and I use Postfix to do a little extra processing on mails (virus scan, filter certain mail, etc), and then SquirrelMail to add a webmail interface for when I'm away from home. Everything is out of the box in Fedora, but I've added Webmin to make it much easier to manage sendmail.

Oh, for inbound mail I have a domain which I route (using the DNS MX record) via zoneedit.com to my mail server. Zoneedit is mainly just to cope with potential IP changes. My router updates zoneedit with the latest IP.

poolking 22-05-2004 13:38

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Thanks. :D

I've been thinking of dabbling with linux in the future, I'll try it then.

Russ 22-05-2004 18:20

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Ok, back on topic now :)

baldy 22-05-2004 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abailey152
Something could be done. If spam filtering is so haphazard, why does my filtering software work so well? And without much user intervention. No, I think most of the anti-spam-blocking group feel that way because they just know what a total pigs-ear NTL will make of it.

Hopefully when the MX6 system quoted in the article comes online a lot of the current problems will disappear. At the moment, I agree, the mail system is crap. As for SPAM, I would rather deal with it myself. If I delete a mail by mistake due to over zealous rules I have myself to blame. Until the government gets tough on SPAM we have to deal with it. First point of attack should be with the originators not the delivery system. How many people take it out on the postman or Royal Mail when they receive junk mail?

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This is my third STB. Each time it has been replaced, I've spent the evening telephoning CS as they seem to lose half of my channels. A friend of mine has been on a STB which he used to reboot regularly, but now he's on a CM which he still has to reboot. Another friend of mine on a CM....same there! This seems like a problem in the area. Are NTL interested? NO!
I can't really comment on this as I have no idea what area of the country you are in. As I stated earlier some areas require substantial investment, you may be in one. Personally I would move to ADSL if it was causing me so much grief. Not much interest in TV myself as it's mostly repeated junk, the wife would probably want SKY though ;)

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The levels are a problem. Check out this thread,

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=7849

For someone on 160k, 1Gb is plenty but it doesn't take long to rack up that amount of usage on 1Mb. If the speeds increase, it'll be worse. Granted, there does perhaps need a cap of some sort, but the current "fixed" level across the range of speeds is totally wrong. The cap should increase as the speed increases.
Read most of it a while back as well as others and as I previously stated needs to be rewritten as clearly it is causing grief. I download well in excess of the CAP and have not been bothered, neither has anyone that I know. Its primary purpose is to use against the *very limited* number of *heavy* users. To be honest it was fine the way it was originally worded.

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Every time NTL does "load balancing" I lose access to sites. I have to change my proxy manually to get access back. Why? I know of no other ISP who regularly have this problem. NTL shouldn't be working on this, it should have been fixed long ago.
Do you loose connection every Tuesday? I cannot think of any reason why a rebalance would affect your ability to use a specific cache apart from a firewall. Rebalancing just moves you to a different upstream if needed, your IP should stay the same and all routing is the same. Personally, I would like to see cache access restricted to a users local area. The ability to bypass local proxies as a quick fix results in longer down time as fewer faults are reported. I would also prefer direct access but that will not happen but I do understand the reasons behind this technology (please do not infer that I suggest that others do not :) ) even if it is not perfect.


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Yeah, NTL are doing great on the upgrade side aren't they? They have an email system which has been almost useless for the last week, a Usenet service which I gave up on quite some time ago, and a set of "transparent" proxy servers that are anything but. Yes, I agree they need to make money, but other ISP's seem to do alright, and don't seem to have the wide-spread problems NTL have. NTL didn't inherit an aged and creaking system. It was supposed to be state-of-the-art, so why is it broken all the time? Getting repairs done is a joke. It takes almost a week to get an engineer to call. For nearly £100 a month for the package, I think I'm justified in expecting a little better.
Mail is crap, agreed. MX6 upgrade should have a dramatic effect on performance. The current system was not designed to deal with the amount of throughput that we see now. Sadly it has taken ntl too long to realise this and have upset quite a few of their subscribers.

Usenet had been crap for a while but since the initial hickups of the server upgrades it has been very good. 95%+ completion & 10 days retention on the binary groups I use and able to sustain 115Kb+ download rates is good enough for me. If I want better then I expect to pay extra for it.

I have no problems with caching servers.

Never needed to call an engineer out since install in almost 3 years so can't comment.

The only fault I see with TV is the crappy EPG & Interactive component. I don't use them so no problem for me.


As with most products and services there are people who are happy and people who are not. Forums like this (no disrespect intended) generally give the impression that everything is bad with ntl. Just like working at any support centre they only here the bad side. What some fail to realise is that there are many many satisfied customers, myself included, I just thought I should put some balance into this debate ;) . Yes I have the odd issue now and then but nothing is perfect in life and I accept that.

If I had the problems abailey152 refers to and it affected my enjoyment so much I would not hesitate in looking elsewhere for service.

edit:
Just like to add that my primary reason for selecting an ISP is to provide access. Services such as mail, usenet are secondary. I don't use ntl mail simply because I have my own domains and manage them myself and use Sendmail etc. as mentioned by others. It's a personal thing ;) Many others have different views and I respect that. Perhaps ntl should do what many other ISPs do and offer a bare bones service with no additional services at a lower cost, it may benefit many users.

abailey152 22-05-2004 21:06

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
I can't really comment on this as I have no idea what area of the country you are in. As I stated earlier some areas require substantial investment, you may be in one. Personally I would move to ADSL if it was causing me so much grief. Not much interest in TV myself as it's mostly repeated junk, the wife would probably want SKY though ;)

Ah! If only.... I'm in an area which couldn't receive ADSL, but now the BT site says, yes you can have ADSL but probably not the faster one. I wouldn't like to go back to 128k (or whatever it is). Unfortunately, if I wanted to try it to see what speed I could get, I'd have to have a BT phone line fitted first which they could test. Catch 22 it seems.

Quote:

Read most of it a while back as well as others and as I previously stated needs to be rewritten as clearly it is causing grief. I download well in excess of the CAP and have not been bothered, neither has anyone that I know. Its primary purpose is to use against the *very limited* number of *heavy* users. To be honest it was fine the way it was originally worded.
I'd still like to see a tiered system. Much more fair IMHO.

Quote:

Do you loose connection every Tuesday?
Okay, perhaps not every time NTL does load balancing, but it does seem to happen after a notice has appeared on the Status page saying that load balancing has/is being carried out in my area. Maybe a co-incidence, but it has happened quite often.

Quote:

As with most products and services there are people who are happy and people who are not. Forums like this (no disrespect intended) generally give the impression that everything is bad with ntl. Just like working at any support centre they only here the bad side. What some fail to realise is that there are many many satisfied customers, myself included, I just thought I should put some balance into this debate ;) . Yes I have the odd issue now and then but nothing is perfect in life and I accept that.
When everything is working, it works well, if you get my meaning. The phone has been okay since it was installed. The TV is okay (apart from the EPG as you say), and the BB is quick. Problem is when something goes down, NTL are slow to respond, do not release information, and some of their CS agents leave a lot to be desired. I've telephoned CS for a fault, gone through the normal reboot etc., been told an engineer will call, then later find out their has been a global fault. Why don't the CS agents know about this. They should have this information at hand. Similarly, when my STB died, an engineer couldn't come for a week. A couple of days, yes, but a week is ridiculous. The email problems are another example of no information. And the story of virus attacks and spam is stretching the truth methinks.

Quote:

If I had the problems abailey152 refers to and it affected my enjoyment so much I would not hesitate in looking elsewhere for service.
Where? I can't get a guaranteed high-speed ADSL connection, and no other cable companies are around my area. NTL has the monopoly. As I've said before on this site, I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping that the BB over the electricity supply is a technology which works and is introduced into my area. Now that would be nice.

Quote:

Just like to add that my primary reason for selecting an ISP is to provide access. Services such as mail, usenet are secondary. I don't use ntl mail simply because I have my own domains and manage them myself and use Sendmail etc. as mentioned by others. It's a personal thing ;) Many others have different views and I respect that. Perhaps ntl should do what many other ISPs do and offer a bare bones service with no additional services at a lower cost, it may benefit many users.
I'm already moving my email across to a mailbox on my web site, to overcome the spam issue. But I don't think we should have to do this. Afterall, NTL's prices aren't bargain-basement now. Okay, I don't mind paying, but I want good service in return.

Jonboy 23-05-2004 20:48

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all the upgrade is going to do is put more stress on a allready over subscribed service lets leave it as it is

kendon 25-05-2004 17:27

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Sorry for being an off-topic whore, I've just had 1mb (to be 1.5mb later this summer ;)) installed at my new home, given it a quick run looks good.

My bandwidth with work (I work from home) comes in at the moment around 35 gb - 40 gb a month. Just so I'm aware, what happens if I break this fabulous cap continually?

As for the upgrades, I was one of the first retail customers of the original NTL broadband service for the Stoke-on-Trent area, and experienced a lot of problems with it. Tech support were great then, and it's partially the support which made them my first choice for the new place (living outside their area right now).

The upgrade is good, very good. £3 for 500kb/s is great news. I'm paying £28 for 512kb/s ADSL right now, so an extra tenner for three times the speed looks good from where I'm standing. Add to that my three months half price and I'm having a giggle and a few extra nights down the local :P

As for announcing the speed changes before implementation, I think this is a wise move. It gives them time to examine their infrastructure in case of problems.

fluds 25-05-2004 18:01

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
What do you do, run napster!
get a business line. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Sorry for being an off-topic whore, I've just had 1mb (to be 1.5mb later this summer ;)) installed at my new home, given it a quick run looks good.

My bandwidth with work (I work from home) comes in at the moment around 35 gb - 40 gb a month. Just so I'm aware, what happens if I break this fabulous cap continually?

As for the upgrades, I was one of the first retail customers of the original NTL broadband service for the Stoke-on-Trent area, and experienced a lot of problems with it. Tech support were great then, and it's partially the support which made them my first choice for the new place (living outside their area right now).

The upgrade is good, very good. £3 for 500kb/s is great news. I'm paying £28 for 512kb/s ADSL right now, so an extra tenner for three times the speed looks good from where I'm standing. Add to that my three months half price and I'm having a giggle and a few extra nights down the local :P

As for announcing the speed changes before implementation, I think this is a wise move. It gives them time to examine their infrastructure in case of problems.


Neil 25-05-2004 18:07

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Sorry for being an off-topic whore, I've just had 1mb (to be 1.5mb later this summer ;)) installed at my new home, given it a quick run looks good.

Good stuff. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
My bandwidth with work (I work from home) comes in at the moment around 35 gb - 40 gb a month.

I'll bet your neighbours who can't online game etc, love you. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Just so I'm aware, what happens if I break this fabulous cap continually?

ntl will write to you (apparently)


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
As for the upgrades, I was one of the first retail customers of the original NTL broadband service for the Stoke-on-Trent area, and experienced a lot of problems with it. Tech support were great then, and it's partially the support which made them my first choice for the new place (living outside their area right now).

That's good to hear. :tu:


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
The upgrade is good, very good. £3 for 500kb/s is great news. I'm paying £28 for 512kb/s ADSL right now, so an extra tenner for three times the speed looks good from where I'm standing. Add to that my three months half price and I'm having a giggle and a few extra nights down the local :P

Not that great when you consider the cap/lousy mail servers etc, coupled with the fact that DSL is coming down in price-Pipex (for example) off a 1 meg (un capped) service for £33.00-now that's good. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
As for announcing the speed changes before implementation, I think this is a wise move. It gives them time to examine their infrastructure in case of problems.

How come Telewest have already finished theirs then (2 weeks ahead of schedule)?

kendon 25-05-2004 18:10

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No I run a web development consultancy, so I upload somewhat and download documental packages, game demos and watch music vids on dotmusic et al.

35 - 40 Gb per month isn't particularly excessive, I don't think.

Also, I see a loophole in the AUP. They state if you exceed 1Gb three days running you get a letter. What happens if I 24/7 max out for two days...I haven't exceeded three days running so can I tell them to go jump? That's hypothetical, incidentally, I couldn't max out that kind of connection for more than an hour, hehe.

kendon 25-05-2004 18:12

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Good stuff. :)
I'll bet your neighbours who can't online game etc, love you. ;)

Never affected them, I'm considerate enough to download much of it while I'm sleeping.
Quote:

Not that great when you consider the cap/lousy mail servers etc, coupled with the fact that DSL is coming down in price-Pipex (for example) off a 1 meg (un capped) service for £33.00-now that's good. :D
Yeah, DSL prices are coming down. For me though the price is OK, I didn't hear alarm bells ringing when I compared it to what I'm getting now.
Quote:

How come Telewest have already finished theirs then (2 weeks ahead of schedule)?
You tell me, then we both know? :P

:edit:

The bb was setup at install (my father oversaw) through a STB, I wasn't happy with this so called sales earlier who actually apologised and have arranged for a free switchover to a cable modem next Tuesday.

Shaun 25-05-2004 18:16

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Also bear in mind that the limit is on downloads and not uploads, so if your 40Gb/month is 50% uploading then it shouldn't affect you :)

Neil 25-05-2004 18:17

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Never affected them, I'm considerate enough to download much of it while I'm sleeping.

Good call. :tu:


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Yeah, DSL prices are coming down. For me though the price is OK, I didn't hear alarm bells ringing when I compared it to what I'm getting now.

Wait until you can't get at your mail for days on end, & your browsing is pi$$ poor due to pathetic caches. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
You tell me, then we both know? :P

Because TW are an organised customer focused company (the total opposite of ntl IMHO)

God help the TW customers when the 2 merge-they won't know what's hit them. :erm:

It will be just like when C&W sold out to ntl a few years ago.....:cry:

:welcome: to the site BTW. :)

etccarmageddon 25-05-2004 18:29

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
hasnt this topic now died a death considering no-one has anything on-topic to say anymore?

Paul 25-05-2004 19:43

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Never affected them, I'm considerate enough to download much of it while I'm sleeping.

Who says they sleep at the same time as you ?

kendon 25-05-2004 20:27

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Haha, that's a good point actually.

iffy 25-05-2004 23:04

1.5mb free upgrade,
 
my m8 has told me that if u have a set top box u will not get ur free upgrade too 1.5mb from 1mb..cause the box only does 1mb max,,,is this true,..im a bit annoyed if it is,,,as im on a setbox and want the modem,,,but will i have too pay for this too be put in..cheers:)

Florence 25-05-2004 23:16

Re: 1.5mb free upgrade,
 
I would think those on 1mb STB would receive aSACM to allow the upgrade.


IMPO that is what will happen

Tezcatlipoca 25-05-2004 23:29

Re: 1.5mb free upgrade,
 
*Moved to BB Support & Discussion, & merged with the Speed Increase thread*

Quote:

Originally Posted by iffy
my m8 has told me that if u have a set top box u will not get ur free upgrade too 1.5mb from 1mb..cause the box only does 1mb max,,,is this true,..im a bit annoyed if it is,,,as im on a setbox and want the modem,,,but will i have too pay for this too be put in..cheers:)


From what I have read here at CF, NTL's 1Mb to 1.5Mb increase *will* also happen for Broadband via Set Top Box (STB) users, as well as for Standalone Cable Modem (SACM) users (unlike Telewest's 1 to 1.5Mb increase).

But, there are apparently "issues" for some people with the current 1Mb STB BB service, so I assume they would also occur for some (upcoming) 1.5Mb STB BB users too. I can't think of any recent threads offhand, but I have seen posts saying that 1Mb BB via a STB is "flaky" etc.

I think NTL give people SACMs if they have a problem with BB using an STB.

See this:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...5&postcount=84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell's Child
I've had a chat with my marketing dept.


In answer to a few questions.

This will be releases "late summer" which is expected to be around July.

This should, unlike telewest, work on STB customers. If not, customers have the option to switch to SACM, although this would tie them into the broadband contract for 12 months.

(snip)


:)

kendon 25-05-2004 23:39

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Well I spoke to someone in BB at ntl today, and they were quite happy to arrange for an engineer to call next Tuesday to install me a SACM.

So, if you want to swap over, give them a bell.

XFS03 25-05-2004 23:47

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
...Also, I see a loophole in the AUP. They state if you exceed 1Gb three days running you get a letter...

It doesn't say that. It says you will be contacted if you exceed 1GB 3 times in 14 consecutive days.

BBKing 26-05-2004 08:00

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
The STB will do > 1.5Mb fine (see thread elsewhere about me having 10Mb on it), if people want to install you a SACM it's up to them, but it's always struck me as a waste of time. The box itself is capable, and the STB service is included in the planning for the upgrade (well, it was last time I looked).

There have been problems with 4000s and 1Mb but afaik they've been fixed/are being fixed. The newer Samsung STBs should be perfectly ok too (since they essentially contain a Samsung SACM).

One consequence of all this is that the low-speed SACM and STB services will finally be the same (300k) rather than being faster on STB as at present.

DeadKenny 26-05-2004 20:03

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
I'm paying £28 for 512kb/s ADSL right now, so an extra tenner for three times the speed looks good from where I'm standing.

I know I'm mad for even suggesting it, but for £2 more you could get double the speed with AOL ;)

You just have to weigh up who's the worst, AOL or NTL :D

and just don't install any of the AOL software if you can avoid it.


Alternatively for £3 less you can get what will be 750kbps with NTL (eventually), though your upstream will be half the speed it was with ADSL.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
The STB will do > 1.5Mb fine (see thread elsewhere about me having 10Mb on it), if people want to install you a SACM it's up to them, but it's always struck me as a waste of time. The box itself is capable, and the STB service is included in the planning for the upgrade (well, it was last time I looked).

Not really a waste of time for those who don't want NTL's TV service ;)

And besides the dedicated cable modems are capable of up to 30Mbps (theoretically), and I know for a fact they work fine at 3Mbps ;). They're also a damn sight smaller than an STB :D

punky 26-05-2004 20:39

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kendon
Well I spoke to someone in BB at ntl today, and they were quite happy to arrange for an engineer to call next Tuesday to install me a SACM.

So, if you want to swap over, give them a bell.

Did you have to re-enter into anothre contract? Any charges?

hjf288 27-05-2004 02:02

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
My pace DI TV 4000 had problems with upload on the 600k service, Customer service refused to arrange for a SACM, so we cancelled TV services and got a SACM installed - Freeview gives alot of what we used NTL for, for cheaper... one off investment.

The SACM handles things fine - just leave it on all the time and everythings perfect.

SMHarman 27-05-2004 11:31

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadKenny
I know I'm mad for even suggesting it, but for £2 more you could get double the speed with AOL ;)

You just have to weigh up who's the worst, AOL or NTL :D

and just don't install any of the AOL software if you can avoid it.

Alternatively for £3 less you can get what will be 750kbps with NTL (eventually), though your upstream will be half the speed it was with ADSL.

Not really a waste of time for those who don't want NTL's TV service ;)

And besides the dedicated cable modems are capable of up to 30Mbps (theoretically), and I know for a fact they work fine at 3Mbps ;). They're also a damn sight smaller than an STB :D

Also your STB is normally near your Set, not your PC. Elegant solutions requiring customer spend to integrage CAT5 into the house or buy wireless, often a fairly unattractive box to sit near the TV, emmitting microwaves that can interfere with the picture.

2||Para 27-05-2004 15:32

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Anybody know when these upgrades actually take place?

orangebird 27-05-2004 15:37

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2||Para
Anybody know when these upgrades actually take place?

'late summer'

2||Para 27-05-2004 15:40

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
ahh i see. thanks,maybe ill hang on to my 600k service instead of opting for BY afterall.Or maybe not,still weighing up me options.

kendon 27-05-2004 16:19

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky
Did you have to re-enter into anothre contract? Any charges?

Well, I've only recently been installed (within the last month). No charges apply and I don't start a new 12 month contract.

scrotnig 27-05-2004 16:39

Re: 1.5mb free upgrade,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca
*Moved to BB Support & Discussion, & merged with the Speed Increase thread*




From what I have read here at CF, NTL's 1Mb to 1.5Mb increase *will* also happen for Broadband via Set Top Box (STB) users, as well as for Standalone Cable Modem (SACM) users (unlike Telewest's 1 to 1.5Mb increase).

But, there are apparently "issues" for some people with the current 1Mb STB BB service, so I assume they would also occur for some (upcoming) 1.5Mb STB BB users too. I can't think of any recent threads offhand, but I have seen posts saying that 1Mb BB via a STB is "flaky" etc.

I think NTL give people SACMs if they have a problem with BB using an STB.

See this:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...5&postcount=84




:)

There are some cases where 1mb can be problematic on certain models of set top box, but this is a tiny minority. I run 1mb via set top box and it's brilliant.

Ultimately, if a customer absolutely insists they want a SACM, this would not be refused, even if they want to keep the set top box. But if there's no problem with the service via Set Top Box and it's just the customer's own personal preference, then obviously this would normally involve a new 12 month contract.

Each case is always taken on its merits.

Neil 27-05-2004 16:53

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2||Para
ahh i see. thanks,maybe ill hang on to my 600k service instead of opting for BY afterall.Or maybe not,still weighing up me options.

You can't 'opt for BY' if you have ntl. :confused:

Hudson 27-05-2004 16:58

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
well i dont normally hijakc a thread without introducing myself, but this was soemthing that has been a bug bear of mine.

I have a SBT (set top box.) and the 600k service, but heres my beef, my stb crashes for no reason TV still works but pc will n ot resolve ips or anything. After a reset (30 secs off on) all is fine again. was wondering if i should ask ntl for a seperate cable modem cuz i never actually got the choice between the 2 when we had cable installed. Reason being aslo that we prefer to switch everythingoff down stairs before going to bed, but for me to work into the lat ehours means that the stb is on.

Anyway glad i found somehwere like this and hope to pick usefull things up.


/me right wheres the intro section....

H

Bill C 27-05-2004 17:46

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hudson
well i dont normally hijakc a thread without introducing myself, but this was soemthing that has been a bug bear of mine.

I have a SBT (set top box.) and the 600k service, but heres my beef, my stb crashes for no reason TV still works but pc will n ot resolve ips or anything. After a reset (30 secs off on) all is fine again. was wondering if i should ask ntl for a seperate cable modem cuz i never actually got the choice between the 2 when we had cable installed. Reason being aslo that we prefer to switch everythingoff down stairs before going to bed, but for me to work into the lat ehours means that the stb is on.

Anyway glad i found somehwere like this and hope to pick usefull things up.


/me right wheres the intro section....



What Area are you in ? :)



H




What Area are you in ? :) I might be able to help

th'engineer 27-05-2004 18:13

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
What Area are you in ? :) I might be able to help

heres my question when is the speed increase to come in ex :) cwc

Bill C 27-05-2004 18:18

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer
heres my question when is the speed increase to come in ex :) cwc


And here is my answer :LOL: When its ready to be rolled out

I dont know yet to be truthfull. When i know and can tell you i will :)

th'engineer 27-05-2004 18:45

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
And here is my answer :LOL: When its ready to be rolled out

I dont know yet to be truthfull. When i know and can tell you i will :)

Thought it might be a good question :Peaceman:

Neil 27-05-2004 18:52

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer
heres my question when is the speed increase to come in ex :) cwc

'Late Summer' is all ntl have said (TW have already finished theirs-2 weeks ahead of schedule too ;) )

Bill C 27-05-2004 18:58

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer
Thought it might be a good question :Peaceman:


It is and as soon as i can say i will :) Honest

Maggy 27-05-2004 19:08

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer
heres my question when is the speed increase to come in ex :) cwc

:Yikes: You mean 'coming soon' really means 'after everyone else'.

Well that's hardly a new idea ;)

Incog.

2||Para 27-05-2004 23:31

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Ahh Neil maybe i didn't make myself clear. The switch to BY will obviously include a switch to BT ;)

Tezcatlipoca 28-05-2004 00:14

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2||Para
Ahh Neil maybe i didn't make myself clear. The switch to BY will obviously include a switch to BT ;)


Erm, if by "BY" you mean Telewest's "Blueyonder" cable broadband service, then switching to a BT phoneline will not help you: Telewest's Blueyonder cable broadband requires that you live in a Telewest cabled area. If you live in an NTL cabled area, then it is not possible to get Telewest cable broadband (& if you live in a Telewest area, it is not possible to get NTL cable).


Or was the "BY" in your previous post just a typo for "BT"? :confused:

etccarmageddon 28-05-2004 08:04

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2||Para
Ahh Neil maybe i didn't make myself clear. The switch to BY will obviously include a switch to BT ;)

wierd!

Hudson 28-05-2004 10:21

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
What Area are you in ? :) I might be able to help

yeah i spose i should have updated my profile. I live in the north east Sunderland to be exact. We had an ntl engineer out a while back and he put "filters" on our stb but it still does the random crash thing. gets a bit annoying whn it happens halfway through a game or bank transfer....

H.

Bill C 28-05-2004 12:55

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hudson
yeah i spose i should have updated my profile. I live in the north east Sunderland to be exact. We had an ntl engineer out a while back and he put "filters" on our stb but it still does the random crash thing. gets a bit annoying whn it happens halfway through a game or bank transfer....

H.


I dont work in that area however i am sure there are members on this site from that area that might help you. Sounds to me like you need a engineer to revisit and check you levels and settop.

th'engineer 28-05-2004 20:30

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
It is and as soon as i can say i will :) Honest

reminds me of the digital tv when it came out coming soon :angel:

etccarmageddon 28-05-2004 21:05

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
cheeky ! it will be here by the end of summer (2009)

th'engineer 29-05-2004 08:48

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
cheeky ! it will be here by the end of summer (2009)

You think it will be that soon:rolleyes:

Bill C 29-05-2004 09:22

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer
You think it will be that soon:rolleyes:


Oh yea of little faith ;)

th'engineer 01-06-2004 09:20

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
Oh yea of little faith ;)

Me surely not:angel:

th'engineer 01-06-2004 14:19

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
anyway just remembered summer that could mean any time

Electrolyte01 03-06-2004 22:44

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Hmm, my mate phone NTL up, and he said that they said it's happening in June (this month). He said they also said that it's happening THIS week, Sunday at the latest. I'm not sure if this is true though, I might just ring NTL up my self and find out.

If it is true, then YES!!! :p: :D

Best not to get my hopes up though :angel:

Chris W 04-06-2004 00:10

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Hmm, my mate phone NTL up, and he said that they said it's happening in June (this month). He said they also said that it's happening THIS week, Sunday at the latest. I'm not sure if this is true though, I might just ring NTL up my self and find out.

If it is true, then YES!!! :p: :D

Best not to get my hopes up though :angel:

oh i do love rumours... where do some people get their information from.

no comment from me :)

punky 04-06-2004 00:23

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
oh i do love rumours... where do some people get their information from.

no comment from me :)

Nice while it lasted...


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