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ntl's network is far from over loaded, its a regional problem to do with ubr's and local networks.
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If and until they admit that some are having severe problems they will offer nothing in return.. If I was just downloading all the time it perhaps isn't as noticeable... I sat for 15 mins watching the downstream and it was up and down like a yoyo every few secs. Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.3 dBmV Downstream SNR : 33.4 dB would jump to anything upto -0.3 dBmV and the SNR would jump around just as much and on another day it woud be more stable. |
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You don't have Dunkeh syndrome - his issues were on the upstream path, yours apparently are on the downstream one - your upstream is solid as you like from what I've seen of it. It's something pretty local to you, to be honest I suspect it's the cable connecting modem to outlet, you described it as getting hot which makes me think it's not insulated properly. Think you mean Power varied between +3dB and -3dB ? See above though, methinks it's that coax if it's getting hot as you describe, that or modem, have you followed my suggestion and gotten a service call? Hopefully they'll get it fixed fairly easily as the fault, while unusual, is IMHO not a major one, apart from the effect it has. Oh and 1Mbit does not give lower pings by default than 600k, how wide the pipe is and latency of data are two different things :) |
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I can get this sorted for you if its local just send me a PM if you want me to get involved :) |
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:LOL: think you should talk to a doctor :D |
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I agree on the core network not been overloaded, if it was we would all be seeing issues, issues are localised.
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Sorry if this has already been brought up but does anyone know when the BB speeds will be upgraded?
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My mate in west midlands was upgraded on friday.
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Correct - although I guess you could read 'later in the summer' in a couple of different ways, although saying 'late summer' would probably do more favours becuase then ntl would look good if it was before. All semantics really!
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You may as well just say "coming soon" ;)
I wonder if this will be "subject to regional availability" ;) |
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If they make the 600k to 750k so it download at like 85kb ? On my 600k I can download at a max of 70kb.
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"late summer" of what year though ? :erm: ;) :D :pp EDIT: or should that be later in what summer ? :D |
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thought it would be more like 86k meself :confused: :D |
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Is there going to be a price increase on the 600k package?
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A friend of mine who is in a blueyonder area has had his speed increased today. Hopefully "later this summer" will be here soon fo us NTL'ers :)
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I remember the digital telly days... "comming soon", "end of the year", "middle of the next year"... blah, blah... 3 years later, nothing, whilst Sky had Digital all that time. Got fed up and jumped ship to Sky. Even when NTL got digital telly it was a good couple of years before they managed simple things like widescreen support and an interactive service (and even now I think there are problems getting RGB output in some areas depending on the box). |
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deadkenny ntl is yet to offer a universal digital service so they not there yet.
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I have just run the speed test on Robin Walker's CM pages. I am on NTL's 150k service. Results:
Thu, 20 May 2004 22:26:35 UTC 1st 128K took 4217 ms = 31082 Bytes/sec = approx 259 kbits/sec 2nd 128K took 4226 ms = 31016 Bytes/sec = approx 258 kbits/sec 3rd 128K took 4506 ms = 29088 Bytes/sec = approx 242 kbits/sec 4th 128K took 4467 ms = 29342 Bytes/sec = approx 244 kbits/sec Does this mean I am getting 250k? :) |
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If it was cached the numbers would be far higher. What do you get from this speed test?: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp ** I get these results on a 256k leased line: 1st 128K took 9594 ms = 13662 Bytes/sec = approx 114 kbits/sec 2nd 128K took 9562 ms = 13708 Bytes/sec = approx 114 kbits/sec 3rd 128K took 6688 ms = 19598 Bytes/sec = approx 163 kbits/sec 4th 128K took 9687 ms = 13531 Bytes/sec = approx 113 kbits/sec It looks like i'm not getting full bandwidth allocation (no idea how many of my users are online at the moment) but you are more likely on 300k rather than 250k based on the overheads factored into most results of this kind. |
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so when NTL update on whatever date it will be, will they be setting a 1GB/per day cap?
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I thought that once you use your 1GB, you'd get cut off?
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=12590 indicates that the Caps applied to some other products sold as limited use (NTL is sold as unlimited) are pretty damn tight, and they do cut you off. Quote:
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oh rite, thanx.
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Downstream 241 Kbps (30.1 KB/sec) 260 Kbps (inc. overheads) Upstream 122 Kbps (15.3 KB/sec) 131 Kbps (inc. overheads) Interesting. :) BTW Thanks for the link. |
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I have tried to search through this thread (i'm a good boy, honest), but has anyone heard either way about the speed increase for STB in ex C&W areas. Last I heard people were talking about wether the STB itself (mines a 4000) can handle data transfers above 1meg. Anyone heard any conclusion to this, either way?
I don't really want to beg anyone for anything, least of all NTL for a SACM. But if I have to, what are my chances, realistically? Some people seem to have more luck than others. And I don't want to enter into a new contract either. |
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The possible increase in speeds is good news, but it would be better if,
a) NTL sort out the crappy email system to make it more reliable, and stop at least SOME spam. b) They sort out why I have to reboot my STB at least twice a week. c) Either remove or increase the cap. d) Sort out the continuous issues with the "transparent" proxy servers. All these problems, and all they do is a bit of tweaking of the d/l speeds. Of course, they can brag about their increased speeds in the usual marketing BS, whereas all these other issues would only mean better customer service, which is something that NTL puts right at the bottom of its list of priorities. :mad: |
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On the spam issue, NTL could at least do what Freeserve do and just tag the messages that are likely to be spam. Then you can set up a rule to delete them.
I run my own mail server though and with my domain name(s), bypass NTL entirely. I get about 1 spam email every few months :D |
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Oh, for inbound mail I have a domain which I route (using the DNS MX record) via zoneedit.com to my mail server. Zoneedit is mainly just to cope with potential IP changes. My router updates zoneedit with the latest IP. |
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Thanks. :D
I've been thinking of dabbling with linux in the future, I'll try it then. |
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Ok, back on topic now :)
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Usenet had been crap for a while but since the initial hickups of the server upgrades it has been very good. 95%+ completion & 10 days retention on the binary groups I use and able to sustain 115Kb+ download rates is good enough for me. If I want better then I expect to pay extra for it. I have no problems with caching servers. Never needed to call an engineer out since install in almost 3 years so can't comment. The only fault I see with TV is the crappy EPG & Interactive component. I don't use them so no problem for me. As with most products and services there are people who are happy and people who are not. Forums like this (no disrespect intended) generally give the impression that everything is bad with ntl. Just like working at any support centre they only here the bad side. What some fail to realise is that there are many many satisfied customers, myself included, I just thought I should put some balance into this debate ;) . Yes I have the odd issue now and then but nothing is perfect in life and I accept that. If I had the problems abailey152 refers to and it affected my enjoyment so much I would not hesitate in looking elsewhere for service. edit: Just like to add that my primary reason for selecting an ISP is to provide access. Services such as mail, usenet are secondary. I don't use ntl mail simply because I have my own domains and manage them myself and use Sendmail etc. as mentioned by others. It's a personal thing ;) Many others have different views and I respect that. Perhaps ntl should do what many other ISPs do and offer a bare bones service with no additional services at a lower cost, it may benefit many users. |
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all the upgrade is going to do is put more stress on a allready over subscribed service lets leave it as it is
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Sorry for being an off-topic whore, I've just had 1mb (to be 1.5mb later this summer ;)) installed at my new home, given it a quick run looks good.
My bandwidth with work (I work from home) comes in at the moment around 35 gb - 40 gb a month. Just so I'm aware, what happens if I break this fabulous cap continually? As for the upgrades, I was one of the first retail customers of the original NTL broadband service for the Stoke-on-Trent area, and experienced a lot of problems with it. Tech support were great then, and it's partially the support which made them my first choice for the new place (living outside their area right now). The upgrade is good, very good. £3 for 500kb/s is great news. I'm paying £28 for 512kb/s ADSL right now, so an extra tenner for three times the speed looks good from where I'm standing. Add to that my three months half price and I'm having a giggle and a few extra nights down the local :P As for announcing the speed changes before implementation, I think this is a wise move. It gives them time to examine their infrastructure in case of problems. |
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No I run a web development consultancy, so I upload somewhat and download documental packages, game demos and watch music vids on dotmusic et al.
35 - 40 Gb per month isn't particularly excessive, I don't think. Also, I see a loophole in the AUP. They state if you exceed 1Gb three days running you get a letter. What happens if I 24/7 max out for two days...I haven't exceeded three days running so can I tell them to go jump? That's hypothetical, incidentally, I couldn't max out that kind of connection for more than an hour, hehe. |
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Also bear in mind that the limit is on downloads and not uploads, so if your 40Gb/month is 50% uploading then it shouldn't affect you :)
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God help the TW customers when the 2 merge-they won't know what's hit them. :erm: It will be just like when C&W sold out to ntl a few years ago.....:cry: :welcome: to the site BTW. :) |
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hasnt this topic now died a death considering no-one has anything on-topic to say anymore?
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Haha, that's a good point actually.
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1.5mb free upgrade,
my m8 has told me that if u have a set top box u will not get ur free upgrade too 1.5mb from 1mb..cause the box only does 1mb max,,,is this true,..im a bit annoyed if it is,,,as im on a setbox and want the modem,,,but will i have too pay for this too be put in..cheers:)
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I would think those on 1mb STB would receive aSACM to allow the upgrade.
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From what I have read here at CF, NTL's 1Mb to 1.5Mb increase *will* also happen for Broadband via Set Top Box (STB) users, as well as for Standalone Cable Modem (SACM) users (unlike Telewest's 1 to 1.5Mb increase). But, there are apparently "issues" for some people with the current 1Mb STB BB service, so I assume they would also occur for some (upcoming) 1.5Mb STB BB users too. I can't think of any recent threads offhand, but I have seen posts saying that 1Mb BB via a STB is "flaky" etc. I think NTL give people SACMs if they have a problem with BB using an STB. See this: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...5&postcount=84 Quote:
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Well I spoke to someone in BB at ntl today, and they were quite happy to arrange for an engineer to call next Tuesday to install me a SACM.
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The STB will do > 1.5Mb fine (see thread elsewhere about me having 10Mb on it), if people want to install you a SACM it's up to them, but it's always struck me as a waste of time. The box itself is capable, and the STB service is included in the planning for the upgrade (well, it was last time I looked).
There have been problems with 4000s and 1Mb but afaik they've been fixed/are being fixed. The newer Samsung STBs should be perfectly ok too (since they essentially contain a Samsung SACM). One consequence of all this is that the low-speed SACM and STB services will finally be the same (300k) rather than being faster on STB as at present. |
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You just have to weigh up who's the worst, AOL or NTL :D and just don't install any of the AOL software if you can avoid it. Alternatively for £3 less you can get what will be 750kbps with NTL (eventually), though your upstream will be half the speed it was with ADSL. Quote:
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My pace DI TV 4000 had problems with upload on the 600k service, Customer service refused to arrange for a SACM, so we cancelled TV services and got a SACM installed - Freeview gives alot of what we used NTL for, for cheaper... one off investment.
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Anybody know when these upgrades actually take place?
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ahh i see. thanks,maybe ill hang on to my 600k service instead of opting for BY afterall.Or maybe not,still weighing up me options.
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Ultimately, if a customer absolutely insists they want a SACM, this would not be refused, even if they want to keep the set top box. But if there's no problem with the service via Set Top Box and it's just the customer's own personal preference, then obviously this would normally involve a new 12 month contract. Each case is always taken on its merits. |
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well i dont normally hijakc a thread without introducing myself, but this was soemthing that has been a bug bear of mine.
I have a SBT (set top box.) and the 600k service, but heres my beef, my stb crashes for no reason TV still works but pc will n ot resolve ips or anything. After a reset (30 secs off on) all is fine again. was wondering if i should ask ntl for a seperate cable modem cuz i never actually got the choice between the 2 when we had cable installed. Reason being aslo that we prefer to switch everythingoff down stairs before going to bed, but for me to work into the lat ehours means that the stb is on. Anyway glad i found somehwere like this and hope to pick usefull things up. /me right wheres the intro section.... H |
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What Area are you in ? :) I might be able to help |
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And here is my answer :LOL: When its ready to be rolled out I dont know yet to be truthfull. When i know and can tell you i will :) |
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It is and as soon as i can say i will :) Honest |
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Well that's hardly a new idea ;) Incog. |
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Ahh Neil maybe i didn't make myself clear. The switch to BY will obviously include a switch to BT ;)
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Erm, if by "BY" you mean Telewest's "Blueyonder" cable broadband service, then switching to a BT phoneline will not help you: Telewest's Blueyonder cable broadband requires that you live in a Telewest cabled area. If you live in an NTL cabled area, then it is not possible to get Telewest cable broadband (& if you live in a Telewest area, it is not possible to get NTL cable). Or was the "BY" in your previous post just a typo for "BT"? :confused: |
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I dont work in that area however i am sure there are members on this site from that area that might help you. Sounds to me like you need a engineer to revisit and check you levels and settop. |
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cheeky ! it will be here by the end of summer (2009)
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anyway just remembered summer that could mean any time
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Hmm, my mate phone NTL up, and he said that they said it's happening in June (this month). He said they also said that it's happening THIS week, Sunday at the latest. I'm not sure if this is true though, I might just ring NTL up my self and find out.
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