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But the TV stuff is extra. You don't have to use that if you don't want to. Bit like the 360 and its extra features.

I take it that if you haven't used the console in a few days then you switch it off that the 24 hrs thing isn't literally 24hrs but since you last checked in whewn you last used it. Does that make sense?

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and how would that help me on holiday in sunny west wales with no net access for the week

£430 dvd player ?

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Smart phone? You would only need to get online briefly once a day. So could tether your smart phones connection.

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The whole thing is just a pain in the ass I think, they haven't made it easy. Kids don't all have smart phones do they?

I am annoyed as I had always planned to get an Xbox but I don't think I will now.

But I will wait until both are released before I buy one.

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I do not think the Xbox one spec we see now will be the same come release

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In what way?

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I think price and restrictions will change they have to compete and would be stupid leaving it how it is. Just my thoughts on it

If I owned M$ and announced first I would have a contingency which I would not announce until the week of release

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If they did that then I may consider an xbone as long as the quality of the games are on par with the PS4, considering that appears a lot more powerful.

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I highly doubt anything will change, they've already got a shitton of pre-orders.

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Anyone else having increasingly annoying download speeds on the 360 lately? Waited nearly an hour for 815mb download.

As for Library sharing, assuming I still make a purchase of one then I'm up for it yeah.

lT7l VIIP3R lXl - Likely to make a new one for the X1 though as this gamertag is plagued with numerous bans and resets due to some experimenting with the USB features.

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Looking up your gamertag on the website and I can certainly see why you'd wanna new GT. On topic though, my speeds have been fine.

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Aye, I went from playing with some fun USB mods in Black Ops 1 zombies to unlocking 1 million gamerscore with a program just to test the capability. I never thought I'd keep the tag though. Became a lot more restrictive as of late, likely down to the idiots boosting and stealing online content from top games like call of duty.

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Well ive booked off the 5th Nov so hope its released then as thats the date COD:Ghosts comes out and i havnt pre ordered that for 360 so i dont want to have wasted a day

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Play.com show release date as 30th Nov 2013. Not sure how correct this but 5th Nov does seem a better release date

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-...rlrefer=search

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Yes there are lots of reports that 30th November is the actually release date.

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Thats a Saturday which seems a bit strange as couriers dont work weekends. Also im unable to book that date off work :(

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Does it really matter getting to use the console on the first day? :)

I am still so torn between which system to buy, i don't want to get both and the PS4 does look to be far more powerful and after posting the video of what the EYE can do in the PS4 thread last night i would likely buy the camera too...... grrrrr i guess i have to sit it out and decide in 2014 when the dust settles.

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Yes it does to me. I wont be able to get it till 4 days after as will be working

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My XBox ID: CapitanSpiff btw :)

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That suits me..i will be back from hols :)

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Lol I misread that at first.

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Anonymous Xbox engineer explains DRM and Microsoft's Xbox One intentions

It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm **** as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted ****.
>Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.


http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous...one-intentions

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Apparently the Xbox One games at E3 were running on Windows 7 and an Nvidia GTX, if this is true then i think it is 1 balls up by MS, i would like to know if the PS4 also did something similar.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbo...rds-56737.html

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What did people think about project spark?

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Not normally my thing but looks good so will give it a try

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I love the way that even Microsoft don't trust Windows 8 with their demos...

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Apparently that was just the unit running "LocoCycle", a game developed for 360 that's just been beefed up a bit for next gen.

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That PC probably wasn't far off the spec of the dev units anyway.

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More on Used Games policy and shared games. Still seems to me that the owner can play the game at same time its being shared. Only one person can play the shared copy at any given time

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...game-policies/

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Can't help but Lol at the Windows based PC's being passed off as Xbox one's above.

I hope to god they both look similar as the current gap is massive enough already. Anyway as for the possibility of being banned and losing games, are people forgetting they can ban your xbox 360 from even connecting to online services? something which I'm very sure will be implemented into the XBone. So forget about losing games, what about effectively losing the whole console.

I don't know about any of you but I'm pretty certain they'll carry it over.

Note: Currently to receive a console ban you'd have to do one of the following or both. 1) Theft of services such as DLC or Microsoft Points, free xbox live and so on. 2) Modded devices such as JTAG'd machines that are used online (currently an instant 999 year ban on the console)

If current rules apply for the next generation should we really care about those type of bans? If you're essentially stealing then I should think losing your console is a lucky escape rather than facing a more severe punishment.

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I can't see how anyone is able to steal DLC or MS points though. Unless the account gets hacked?

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It's completely possible to do both and it's been happening since the launch of the xbox 360.

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011...l-1-2-million/

there are also various methods to steal MS points on the xbox itself but only in the increments they provide. I'm not here to go into detail, just to say it's completely possible and continues to happen.

You are also correct about account theft which leads to credit card fraud and incredibly only leads to a console ban instead of prosecution.

Accounts and stolen goods often end up being sold from China though so Microsoft can't do much about it. It's been happening since launch like I said but took off massively after the release of FIFA 12, said incidents can be found all over the web.

Using any stolen account or dodgy MSP WILL lead to the xbox being banned completely online.

http://digiex.net/attachments/genera...options-2-.png

A JTAG'd Xbox 360 seen in the above picture, an instant 999 ban if they connect to the Xbox Live servers but some can bypass it, apart from seeming innocent and running homebrew etc, these things cause havoc online, modded call of duty lobbies to rampant infections in public lobbies, aimbots and what not, they can turn an online game upside down in a second. Here is a link to the console banning page: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoleban

Anyway enough with the gloom! Here's some morning enjoyment. https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...67904647_n.jpg

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Just read that tweet, quite amusing :)

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That tweet is quailtiy

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Both consoles basically running X86 architecture is the best news for PC gaming in years. It means we are going to get top end games with top quality graphics that might actually push our machines ( our refers to the few that do own high spec pcs)

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Yes i can see this being a good thing for the PC market. :)

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Microsoft have also confirmed pricing for games and it is said to be the same as the X360.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...one-games.html

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Thats great news

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Hi 50-55 pounds seems to be the price bracket for standard version games in the uk

Game: EA published games priced only all the rest £1 deposit

http://www.game.co.uk/en/games/new-x..._-XboxOneGames

Amazon: All games priced

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_pg_...qid=1371383515

Zavvi: All games priced

http://www.zavvi.com/shops/xbox/software.list

What do you think?

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Jesus, you're right, they've removed the 'prices haven't been announced yet' banner yet they're still at £55.

Uh-oh.

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This is another reason i will buy 1 of the new consoles a few months after launch when everything settles down, and the **** has stopped hitting the fan.

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It never stops...just sometimes it doesn't hit you

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I am looking forward to buying a new console though, so hopefully things won't be too expensive.

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We're still awaiting news whether digital purchases will be cheaper than buying physical, if not then I really don't know where to turn. It makes logical sense to buy a PS4 or just stick with a PC. £54.99 for FIFA, having a laugh EA, here's to Ubisoft sinking you with NEW content. I got FIFA 13 for £25 from a CD keys website last year but EA continue to charge £49 for a digital download.

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It is a shame MS didn't go region free like the PS4 then games would be cheaper like at play-asia.

If both consoles want us to embrace digital downloads then they should make digital downloads £10 cheaper than bluray discs, i think they really missed an opportunity there.

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I don't know if its been posted but

http://recombu.com/digital/news/sky-...ts_M11667.html

But

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Seems you can plug in Xbox 360 into Xbox 1 and snap it on screen while playing on Xbox One (Instead of the TV basiclly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M

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Not sure how correct this is but i cannot hear it

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...13&postcount=1

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He doesn't even say "stand by for Titanfall" at that time.

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Those are the RRP's of all the games. Call of Duty has had an RRP of £54.99 for the last 3 years. it gets sold at £42.99 to £44.99 when it comes to release date.

The prices will come down to parity with the current gen by the time November comes.

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What are the reasons behind you guys getting the xbone as it is leaving me frustrated because of the power difference?

Is it brand loyalty?
More games that take your fancy?
You want the TV stuff?
Buying it for the controller?

Does it concern you that it is possible the games may play better on the ps4 due to the superior GPU and far faster memory or do you think there won't be any difference?

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Amazon Poll:
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/se..._one_56766.jpg

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I prefer the xbox controller

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Me too, so I will have to get used to the ds4 if I go that route.

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Making digital downloads cheaper would please us but anger the retailers...


Yeah. Interesting idea. Not sure of the point, though. May as well give the 360 its own input on the TV IMO, save having to have two consoles powered up just to use one.


I will buy a PS4 too, but at the moment I've swayed back towards getting an Xbox One first.

- I've been on XBL longer than PSN, so have more friends on it.

- I think that XBL is far superior to PSN.

- The 360 controller is my fave ever controller.

- I think that the DualShock 3 is awful. Sure the DualShock 4 is supposed to be better (e.g. with non-crap triggers at long last), but I still prefer the look of the Xbox pad.


Power difference... I'm sure that it will be apparent in exclusive games, but for multiplatform stuff I doubt that we'd see much of a difference, despite the PS4's faster RAM and extra GPU cores.

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it not the drm that screwed microsoft it the 24hr rule i no my connection goes down at least once a month for over a day most players like playing single player games it a kick in the teeth to most players of offline games i have switched to ps4 for that reason drm didn't bother me 24hr rule killed mine and my mates interest in the console

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For me its all about the games , in my opinion xbox has the far better exclusives , titanfall looks like a must have, halo , gears of war , sunset overdrive looks interesting. I know for a fact as soon as a new gears of war is released I would want to buy an Xbox one. None of the ps4 exclusives give me the same feeling . Couple that with the fact I expect the online experience to be far superior on Xbox live again , a better controller IMO . My only gripe is the price difference but what the hell I'm going for it . The 24 hour check in is a pain but won't affect me as it will always be connected , if I can't play online I don't play anyway !!!. As said previously I doubt there will be a huge difference in game quality as with 360 and ps3 but yeah I expect the exclusives may look a bit better on ps4 . The overall setup of the Xbox one appeals to me , it does everything the ps4 does and lots more ;)

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SnoopZ I don't think power will effect consoles that much. Pretty much al lthe multi platform games will look almost identical. There will of course be some exlcusive titles that may look better but then again the 360 ended up with some games that looked better than their PS3 versions. Ghostbusters was one that stuck in my mind for looking a lot worse on the PS3.

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True, but correct me if i am wrong, didn't the 360 have more powerful graphics compared to the PS3 where it was able to display better textures?

My problem is i don't want to buy both consoles as i only game occasionally on selected titles like Battlefield so i am kinda torn.

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You're wrong about the graphics, the Playstation 3 was capable of more impressive visuals than the XBOX360, but it was very expensive to develop the games that took advantage of the playstation 3.

This was down to the Playstation's "cell" processor not really being ideal for a games console. So developers simply started writing the games for Xbox then doing a weak port over to Playstation. Some of the playstations first party developer games look stunning.

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if that is accurate MS will be worried lol

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seeing as both consoles are now X86 architecture I see no reason why cross platform games should stay equal on the consoles. The PS4 clearly has a much better GPU and some PCs a lot better than the PS4 so I see no reason why devs can not just code a medium and high and Ultra gfx version of the same game (XB one PS4 and PC with options for all)

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Hands on demo. So cant wait for Killer Instinct and i really want Forza 5. I hope my Xbox 360 wheel and pedals will work on Xbox One. Still no actaull date in November thou.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...lon-watch.html

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Killer instinct is free download (but i seem to remember extra chatacters will cost).

Forza 5 does look good.

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Ya KI is free to play with one character and then others are payable

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...-download.html

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http://123kinect.com/kinect-forums/thread-4736.html
Very interesting news !! , that's better than being able to lend your friend a game !!!

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but it does not deal with selling your game on though

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They've already stated that you can trade your games , without a setup fee , it's just unclear at present how this will be implemented !!

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sorry aint kept up lol

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The difference on how to share games on Xbox One and PS4

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...00cce2230f4a10

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Whoever made that is a very anti PS4.

So how does this share thing work on the Xbone? I don't think MS has clarified yet have they?

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They mentioned you can share games with 10 people...not necessarily family...they just need to be named (and suspect it will not allow constant changing of friends).

I also think that two people on the friends list can play the same game at the same time (please can others correct me) ie you the owner and another

And you don't need to be on the same console. (i think it works by account)

So the benefit mentioned would be that you could share buying of games with "friends".

No good to me..I don't like sharing, and no friends :D

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lol Colin i don't like sharing and i don't have many game console friends yet.

I wonder what happens if 1 of those friends is playing the game and another wants to play? I still dont think MS have worked it all out yet, but still months to go before things improve. :)

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from this link
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/a...t-some-details

quote extract (from above link)
So that answers one question: Microsoft doesn't seem to care whether or not the ten people in the group are actually family members. They can be friends, roommates, boyfriends, girlfriends, your dog's groomer… you pick ten people, and you share games with them.

The question is how many people can play the game at the same time. Spencer told me he believed that two people can play one copy of a game concurrently, but he urged me to check Microsoft's official wording on the matter to be sure. This is what the licensing page states:

Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.
So one family member can play a game at a time, but can I be playing the same game? If I buy one copy of a multiplayer title, can I play it in co-op with my son if I own two Xbox One systems?

“The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time,” Ars Technica reported after speaking with Microsoft Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi. “All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.”

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This

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Now imagine if 2 of your friends wish to play battlefield 4 at the same time i can see that being pretty annoying to the person who can't, but i guess it is first come first served.

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But wouldn't be your problem..which is key :D

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It is , but being able to let one friend play your game at the same time as you is pretty cool !!

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Yes i agree that is cool. :)

I hope they don't increase the cost of a Gold membership.

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Me too , the last thing they need is more bad press though ;)

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I can't see anymore bad press coming lol.

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When it says 'shared library' do you have to download the game in full from whoever has the original. How big will these games be? If you do have to download the library or game then everyone's going to be throttled.

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Would think there will be some clever compression used , hasn't been announced how this will work although I do remember an interview saying not all the game had to be downloaded to start playing it ;)

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all of twitter from a few sources Microsoft to drop drm and always on policies it changed my mind now grr

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http://www.neowin.net/news/is-micros...-drm-policiesI was just about to post to.

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Possibly no 24hr check in and no restriction on used games but I need to see facts.

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was dead cert on getting ps4 now not so sure if it true

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Same here, I hope we can always keep kinetic off if desired too.

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Its official a must read.

http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-remov...-drm-514390310

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big move...and smart.

though it didn't stop me

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Possibly no family sharing now? Disk needs to be in the drive to.

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I wasnt bothered by the DRM or the online check in but this makes brilliant news. Maybe now all the Sony fanboys will shut up

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Yes, it says that will not happen now..you need to have game in the tray

that is the trade-off

No issue for me...others might be disappointed..but you can't have everything

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I may get an Xbox now, the only 3 things stopping me maybe kinetic, games not region free and the ps4 having more power.

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"Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions."

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That's a bad trade IMO :( , could have saved a small fortune in games :(

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Region locks have been removed to.

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I think ms did the right thing, will be an interesting read tomorrow.

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More info


http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

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Dave Mattress has now apparently confirmed that the 24 hour check-in nonsense has been backed out.

A victory for common sense.

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The problem with people these days is they are too reluctant to embrace change , digital downloads are the future of gaming , yes the 24 hour checkin was a little over the top but the family sharing idea was groundbreaking in my opinion. It's now no more special than the ps4 in terms of evolution to the next generation.

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Shame no family sharing now, that was a great feature but you cant have everything

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It's not really a restriction on used games though. It's purely as the game installs to the hdd and the disc isn't required in the drive that they need to have a system in place to remove that game off your account if you sell it on.

Family sharing was a great idea but now thanks to people not willing to embrace change we are back to the current way of doing things with physical media.

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that the thing tho i cannot afford new games alot of the time that what swung me to ps4 but i am happy with xbox live but they need to start giving ppl more incentives for being gold free games etc

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http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

I am rather gutted about this the family sharing idea was brilliant.