Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

It's a cleverer insult by Tusk than first apparent. To rebut it, you would have to both reveal your plan and then try and explain why you kept it covered up!

... or maybe Tusk is getting nervous that the EU will suffer under No Deal.

His remarks were most unwise.

papa smurf

07-02-2019 08:53

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35982370)

Go on, you let it all out mate, can't be doing you any good with all that vitriol inside . . give it a big blast and see how much better you feel in the morning ;)

Better out than in :D

jonbxx

07-02-2019 09:55

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35982368)

Well, um - when you vote for that something to happen, er yeah... :rolleyes: :dozey: :dunce:

Exactly. I am confused why people are getting so upset about this whole thing. I can only imagine it one or more of the following;

There is no plan for leaving safely
People feel that Donald Tusk is suggesting that there is no plan for leaving safely even though there is
There's an uppity foreigner who is not only employed by the EU but is Polish talking about us

I am sure the first one isn't true as that would be catastrophically negligent. The second is the most likely. No comment on the third...

ianch99

07-02-2019 11:59

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35982393)

Exactly. I am confused why people are getting so upset about this whole thing. I can only imagine it one or more of the following;

There is no plan for leaving safely
People feel that Donald Tusk is suggesting that there is no plan for leaving safely even though there is
There's an uppity foreigner who is not only employed by the EU but is Polish talking about us

I am sure the first one isn't true as that would be catastrophically negligent. The second is the most likely. No comment on the third...

Your #1 should really be "There was no plan for leaving safely and there still isn't" :)

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Just a reminder from the one of the Leaders of the official Leave campaign why Donald Tusk is angry:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/02/5.jpg

1andrew1

07-02-2019 12:41

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35982410)

]Just a reminder from the one of the Leaders of the official Leave campaign why Donald Tusk is angry:

Yes, the EU is annoyed "because the UK voted for Brexit but keeps looking to Brussels to come up with ways to make its exit workable and painless."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47152349

Mick	07-02-2019 12:57

Re: Brexit

Majority of sane people in UK, don’t give a shit why EU or indeed Tusk is angry. They are corrupted power hungry fools, on par with Hitler, with their obsession with their aims for an EU Army and more power stolen from their Member States.

Hugh	07-02-2019 12:58

Re: Brexit

So it's wrong for the EU to say there is a special place in Hell for those who promoted Brexit without a plan, but OK for us to say they are the equivalent of Nazis?

papa smurf

07-02-2019 13:33

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35982419)

So it's wrong for the EU to say there is a special place in Hell for those who promoted Brexit without a plan, but OK for us to say they are the equivalent of Nazis?

When an individual expresses a view about Nazi's /Eu it is just one persons view point ,when Tusk speaks about a special place in hell he is representing millions of voices over 28 country's ,diplomatically it's not big and it's not clever it's just an insult to our mp's and our people.

nomadking

07-02-2019 13:54

Re: Brexit

Didn't realise we could unilaterally draw up a plan without involving the EU.

At the moment Germany and France draw up the plans and then tell the others what to do.
Eg From Radio Times write up of "Inside Europe: 10 years of Turmoil".

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German chancellor Angela Merkel managed to wins over French president Francois Hollande to the idea of compulsory quotas for relocating migrants across the EU, but they ran into intense opposition from Eastern European member states - bringing the EU to brink of collapse as the leaders tried to force their deal through.

jonbxx

07-02-2019 14:29

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35982423)

When an individual expresses a view about Nazi's /Eu it is just one persons view point

How about when government ministers do it? Is this OK?

papa smurf

07-02-2019 15:07

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35982427)

How about when government ministers do it? Is this OK?

No it's not,if it's done in parliament it is falsely representing the people and the party .

Mick	07-02-2019 15:08

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35982419)

So it's wrong for the EU to say there is a special place in Hell for those who promoted Brexit without a plan, but OK for us to say they are the equivalent of Nazis?

They cast the first stone, the despicable anti-democratic fools!!!

When they want to grow a EU Army and steal sovereign power from their remaining membership countries, i'd say they were very much acting like power hungry Nazis!!!

Angua

07-02-2019 15:21

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35982353)

As much as I might be sarcastic about it I can accept the Leave campaign did not need to provide a detailed plan upon winning the vote. However the people promoting that campaign and especially those who were senior politicians did make statements about the benefits of Leaving. They will be partly responsible if those outcomes fail to materialise. History might vindicate them in the time and we'll look back in 5, 10, 20 years from now as having made the right decision or we might not.

Or even 50 years by Rees-Mogg's timeline.