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OLD BOY 07-08-2017 13:05

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35911192)
Better than 2 competitors raising prices

I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.

Dave42 07-08-2017 13:19

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911198)
I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.

only ever means much higher prices OB so got to disagree

OLD BOY 07-08-2017 13:21

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35911202)
only ever means much higher prices OB so got to disagree

Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!

Dave42 07-08-2017 13:31

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911203)
Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!

realist as competition always makes prices higher as with sport soon as sky had to lose all the football bills much higher

denphone 07-08-2017 13:58

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911198)
I'm waiting for an interloper (could be Amazon) to oubid Sky and confound the naysayers by providing a sports service that is rather cheaper than people have to fork out for now.

Competition is, ultimately, a good thing.

You will be waiting a long time OB so much so that your hair will be grey and probably balding by then..;)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911203)
Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!

You might be in for a nasty shock sooner then you think.

OLD BOY 07-08-2017 14:12

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35911220)
You will be waiting a long time OB so much so that your hair will be grey and probably balding by then..;)

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You might be in for a nasty shock sooner then you think.

Do you have anything to support that view, Den? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35911207)
realist as competition always makes prices higher as with sport soon as sky had to lose all the football bills much higher

No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.

denphone 07-08-2017 14:20

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911226)
Do you have anything to support that view, Den? :confused:

History and market economics.;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911226)
No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.

You sure about that as watching sport has nearly doubled in price these last few years for those who have both big sports packages.

theone2k10 07-08-2017 14:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911203)
Forever the pessimist, eh, Dave?

Amazon don't exactly have a reputation for putting prices up!

You mean apart from when they took away free delivery and make you buy other stuff before they'll even send you some items?

Raider999 07-08-2017 15:44

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911226)
Do you have anything to support that view, Den? :confused:

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No, Dave, competition has the effect of bringing prices down. Monopolies push them up.

With TV sport in this country, we have seen a negative impact initially, but this will right itself.


Well competition for premier football rights certainly had that effect - not!

Since BT got involved you have to pay for BT sports and Sky Sports to get all the games - true there are now more games on tv, but to watch the top matches you need both

End result, having to pay more!

If Amazon (or any 3rd party) win some of the rights from Sky/BT this will only get worse.

Gavin-D 07-08-2017 15:58

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From the other thread, BT Sport UHD is coming according to retentions

OLD BOY 07-08-2017 16:07

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35911243)
You mean apart from when they took away free delivery and make you buy other stuff before they'll even send you some items?

Not if you are a Prime customer.

theone2k10 07-08-2017 16:08

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35911259)
Not if you are a Prime customer.

Still not free postage though is it really?

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35911256)
From the other thread, BT Sport UHD is coming according to retentions

It isn't until 2019 at earliest.

OLD BOY 07-08-2017 16:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35911254)
Well competition for premier football rights certainly had that effect - not!

Since BT got involved you have to pay for BT sports and Sky Sports to get all the games - true there are now more games on tv, but to watch the top matches you need both

End result, having to pay more!

If Amazon (or any 3rd party) win some of the rights from Sky/BT this will only get worse.

No, it won't get worse if there is more competition. There have not been sufficient contenders to bring the price down yet, and price wise, Sky and BT are not the best combination!

The involvement of Amazon, Google and/or Twitter will make all the difference.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35911260)
Still not free postage though is it really?

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It isn't until 2019 at earliest.

I presume you are saying that you pay for delivery via the £79 subscription. Although that is true, I took out that subscription for the TV service, and I pay no more than I pay to Netflix, so as far as I am concerned, yes it's free. Whatever view you take on that, you must admit, it's pretty good value for money.

On your second point, are you sure that VM are not in negotiations with BT on this?

carravetta 07-08-2017 16:25

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I do believe that beIN Sports will enter the UK Market

Plenty of signs that indicate this will happen sooner rather than later

OLD BOY 07-08-2017 16:32

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35911268)
I do believe that beIN Sports will enter the UK Market

Plenty of signs that indicate this will happen sooner rather than later

Yes, I have been anticipating this for a while, but it takes so long!

I guess this is why Den is so sceptical of future change!


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