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papa smurf 22-01-2025 21:33
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189839)
All relative. The cost of covid fraud was more than that (£10.5 billion), most of it to Bozzas pals.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Common...20commissioner

Or the £23 billion of benefits unclaimed. https://policyinpractice.co.uk/missi...med-each-year/
What proactive action are the Govt taking about that?
I was just pointing out that labour are only responsible for £3.7 billion of last years fraud, why so defensive you should be happy

Mr K 22-01-2025 21:49
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189842)
I was just pointing out that labour are only responsible for £3.7 billion of last years fraud, why so defensive you should be happy
Not defensive, just agreeing with you, nice isn't it :)

Pierre 22-01-2025 22:42
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The fraud isn’t the issue. It’s just the amount of people on benefits.

It’s bad enough, without letting in all the cultural enrichment individuals………
that go straight onto benefits …………..

1andrew1 22-01-2025 23:10
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189850)
The fraud isn’t the issue. It’s just the amount of people on benefits.

It’s bad enough, without letting in all the cultural enrichment individuals………
that go straight onto benefits …………..
You wish fraud wasn't an issue but unfortunately it is.

Pierre 22-01-2025 23:14
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189859)
You wish fraud wasn't an issue but unfortunately it is.
It is….

But it’s irrelevant when you’re inviting hundreds of thousands to come in and take benefits.

That have contributed nothing. They’re a net loss immediately

Mr K 22-01-2025 23:16
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189850)
The fraud isn’t the issue. It’s just the amount of people on benefits.

It’s bad enough, without letting in all the cultural enrichment individuals………
that go straight onto benefits …………..
It's what you get from an ageing population. Too expensive to have kids. Those with young with any talent or sense, emigrate from this decaying backwater.I blame everything that has happened since 2016. No point in blaming politicians its what some of us voted for.

Hugh 22-01-2025 23:33
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189833)
In 2010, when labour were ousted, it was estimated to be £1 Billion, last year it was estimated to be £7.4 Billion.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189838)
7.4 billion that's a lot of fraud and half of it was under the Tory's
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189842)
I was just pointing out that labour are only responsible for £3.7 billion of last years fraud, why so defensive you should be happy
It was the last Fiscal Year - April 2023 to March 2024…

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...it-expenditure (published 16th May 2024)

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Overpayments due to Fraud were 2.8% (£7.4bn) in FYE 2024, compared with 2.7% (£6.3bn) in FYE 2023.

Pierre 22-01-2025 23:46
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189863)
It's what you get from an ageing population.
An aging population that, in the main, have paid into the system. So at least have funded U.K. Plc.

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Too expensive to have kids.
Depends what model you’re looking at. You can either have two working parents, in which it’s generally doable…..or you can have no working parents, in which its doable, because the two working parents as well paying for their kids, pay for these ones too.

And as well as paying for the indigenous population that don’t contribute to the economy, what seemed like a good idea was import a load of Middle Eastern/sub-continent/ North African immigrants that will also contribute nothing to the economy.

Damien 23-01-2025 00:08
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189868)
An aging population that, in the main, have paid into the system. So at least have funded U.K. Plc.
.
The problem is they paid for the generation above them. An 'ageing population', i.e a population where the retired population is higher relative to the working population than previous generations, is a bigger cost to the state.

The ideal for the government is for immigrants who come in to work, are already fully educated, and then return home before they retire.

Paul 23-01-2025 01:23
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189869)
The ideal for the government is for immigrants who come in to work, are already fully educated, and then return home before they retire.
and how many of them do that ?

ianch99 23-01-2025 10:27
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189873)
and how many of them do that ?
Quite a few from the EU do: https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u...d-from-the-uk/

Pierre 23-01-2025 12:23
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189881)
I specifically omitted EU/ western migration, I said:

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what seemed like a good idea was import a load of Middle Eastern/sub-continent/ North African immigrants that will also contribute nothing to the economy.
You could also throw Albanians into that mix too.

papa smurf 23-01-2025 12:49
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Sainsbury's to cut over 3,000 jobs as budget tax hikes loom

The supermarket said the move was a bid to save money ahead of a £140m leap in costs from budget tax measures, due to come into force within weeks.

so this is what growth looks like


https://news.sky.com/story/sainsbury...-loom-13294853

Itshim 23-01-2025 15:29
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189893)
Sainsbury's to cut over 3,000 jobs as budget tax hikes loom

The supermarket said the move was a bid to save money ahead of a £140m leap in costs from budget tax measures, due to come into force within weeks.

so this is what growth looks like


https://news.sky.com/story/sainsbury...-loom-13294853
The lady from accountants said this wouldn't happen and is optimistic about the economy, so that OK then. Clearly business leaders don't understand how to run a business. :shocked:

Paul 23-01-2025 17:27
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In the meantime ...

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Rachel Reeves to soften non-dom tax changes
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1we3re197po

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Plans to abolish non-dom status will be amended to allow a more generous phase out of tax benefits, Chancellor Rachel Reeves has announced.
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Labour pledged to scrap the status in its election manifesto, saying this would address unfairness in the tax system and raise extra money for public services.

However, critics have raised concerns the changes could prompt wealthy people to leave the UK.


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