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tweetiepooh 02-11-2020 11:02
Re: Coronavirus
 
Me thinks a big problem we had is the local restrictions should have been more like a quarantine. Not much good shutdown an area and then having the "plague carriers" still moving to other regions.
Schools are probably OK to keep open as long as pupils are within region, the the Uni's where students have moved all over the place that's caused lot of spread.
It's how Australia managed by closing borders between states. But we are much smaller than Oz and much harder to stop people moving between areas.

papa smurf 02-11-2020 11:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
STAT STUMBLE Death forecast used to justify national lockdown is based on old stats and may be four times too high, scientists say


The projections were based on research conducted three weeks ago by Cambridge University, the Telegraph reports.

Experts have questioned why the work is still being used to make decisions when the university has published more recent research, whose estimated death tolls are considerably lower.

Speaking to the Telegraph, Professor Carl Heneghan, director of Oxford University's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine, said it was "deeply concerning" that out-of-date data was bring used in decision-making.

“Our job as scientists is to reflect the evidence and the uncertainties and to provide the latest estimates," he said.

“I cannot understand why they have used this data, when there are far more up-to-date forecasts from Cambridge that they could have accessed, which show something very different.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/130820...imes-too-high/

Pierre 02-11-2020 11:31
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055906)
STAT STUMBLE Death forecast used to justify national lockdown is based on old stats and may be four times too high, scientists say
Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

All metrics should still show an increase for the next two-three weeks at the very least.

So I'll watch with morbid interest.

jfman 02-11-2020 11:59
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36055907)
Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

All metrics should still show an increase for the next two-three weeks at the very least.

So I'll watch with morbid interest.
The same people deny the stats every time yet the last time the trend was 200 deaths a day by November which we exceeded.

Carth 02-11-2020 12:59
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36055908)
The same people deny the stats every time yet the last time the trend was 200 deaths a day by November which we exceeded.
True, one set of 'experts' usually contradicts another set of 'experts' . . . probably because they read/used the data differently :confused:

pick a card, any card . .

Jack of Clubs . .

ok, this is what we'll do next week :rolleyes:

Hugh 02-11-2020 13:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...late-6tzstqnr9

Quote:
The “world-beating” NHS Covid app, downloaded by 19 million people, has systematically failed to send alerts telling people to self-isolate after they came into contact with infected people.

Thousands were not contacted by the Test and Trace app, developed under Baroness (Dido) Harding, because it was set at the wrong sensitivity, the government has admitted.

For a month, the Department of Health and Social Care failed to use software developed to make the app work properly. Users whose “risk score” should have triggered an alert were not contacted. As a result, a government source said, “shockingly low” numbers of users had been sent warnings since the app was released on September 24.

The source added that people who owned Android devices were among the worst hit. The mobile operating system accounts for more than half of UK phone users and is also disproportionately used by the less well-off, who are most at risk from the virus.

It took officials five weeks to fix the problem and make a voluntary software update available last Thursday.
"world beating"...

papa smurf 02-11-2020 13:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36055922)
World ending more like.

OLD BOY 02-11-2020 18:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36055922)
Bloody Civil Servants. Roll on the forthcoming clear out. :sniper:

jfman 02-11-2020 19:03
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36055960)
Bloody Civil Servants. Roll on the forthcoming clear out. :sniper:
There’s no actual evidence that it went wrong due to Civil Servants at all. Could equally be those private sector consultants on £7000 a day...

Hugh 02-11-2020 19:04
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36055960)
Bloody Civil Servants. Roll on the forthcoming clear out. :sniper:
You may wish to adjust your aim...

https://www.med-technews.com/feature...ehind-the-app/
Quote:
The day after the release of the NHS England and Wales COVID-19 contact tracing app, Ian Bolland spoke to Wolfgang Emmerich, CEO, Zühlke Engineering, the developer behind the app...


... Zühlke Engineering was first approached in March when NHSX asked the company to provide independent assurance and technical oversight of the first app project, but concluded that it was not possible to develop a reliable app using the approach pursued the first time around, and recommended a change in tack.
From the third week in June, the company began working on the current app and finished development in the first week of September.
tl:dr - it was developed, and is maintained by, a private company

Carth 02-11-2020 22:46
Re: Coronavirus
 
That does surprise me, I thought it was developed by a couple of aging hackers in a back street garage somewhere in Wolverhampton.


It certainly works as though it was.

1andrew1 02-11-2020 22:56
Re: Coronavirus
 
A promising development. :)
Quote:
Everyone in Liverpool will be tested for covid-19 as armed forces arrive to launch first whole city testing operation

Everyone living or working in Liverpool will be offered regular covid-19 tests in the first whole city programme in the country - with rapid turnaround tests available across the city from Friday.

Two thousand military personnel will arrive in the city later this week to roll-out a huge programme of hundreds of thousands of tests as Liverpool becomes the centre of the government's new strategy to fight the virus...

The pilot will help to inform a blueprint for how mass testing can be achieved and how fast and reliable covid-19 testing can be delivered at scale.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...id-19-19210041

pip08456 03-11-2020 01:01
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055998)
Only if everyone is willing to have the test. There's a backlash on social media which will have an affect.

Paul 03-11-2020 01:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Well social media is populated by a lot of idiots, so what do you expect.

The article makes it pretty clear ;

Quote:
Everyone living or working in Liverpool will be offered regular covid-19 tests in the first whole city programme in the country
If you dont want one, dont bother, but dont complain about city restrictions either.

mrmistoffelees 03-11-2020 09:54
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055998)
One of many pilot sites, Redcar also lined up for the same.


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