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Ddonald2016 05-08-2018 19:44

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35958284)
Although, as I have already mentioned to Richard, he can pull out of a contract as soon as the next price rises are announced.

They would have a total cheek to put in a price rise this year after everything they lost

pip08456 05-08-2018 20:41

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
I would not put them past it to have a price rise though.

Chad 05-08-2018 20:52

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35958289)
They would have a total cheek to put in a price rise this year after everything they lost

Just stumbled across this on the Freeview website

https://www.freeview.co.uk/news-and-...-freeview.html

Talk about kicking Virgin when they're down. Valid point though about free channels being missing from pay TV.

spankysmagicpian 05-08-2018 21:05

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
Has anyone not read the latest Guardian piece?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...a-uktv-dispute

Main points - UKTV losing about £1m a week
Freeview TV campaign targeting Virgin viewers
Audience levels for UKTV losses range from 20% to 35%
Sky have not seen any significant rise in subscriptions since the channels were pulled
(Replacement channels on VM aren't being charged any carriage fees)

Dave42 05-08-2018 21:11

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35958298)
Has anyone not read the latest Guardian piece?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...a-uktv-dispute

Main points - UKTV losing about £1m a week
Freeview TV campaign targeting Virgin viewers
Audience levels for UKTV losses range from 20% to 35%
Sky have not seen any significant rise in subscriptions since the channels were pulled
(Replacement channels on VM aren't being charged any carriage fees)

well they will have to do a deal wont there

Ddonald2016 05-08-2018 21:22

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35958299)
well they will have to do a deal wont there

Well if this is true then UKTV really do need a deal

Mr K 05-08-2018 22:34

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35958301)
Well if this is true then UKTV really do need a deal

So do VM ! If VM customers are looking to Freeview/Sky VM could lose these people for good. Seems ITV have taken advantage of VMs weak position making them overpay for their channels.

Putting all UKTV channels onto Freeview might totally wrong foot VM. Wouldn't be surprised....

Chad 05-08-2018 22:44

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35958298)
Has anyone not read the latest Guardian piece?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...a-uktv-dispute

Main points - UKTV losing about £1m a week
Freeview TV campaign targeting Virgin viewers
Audience levels for UKTV losses range from 20% to 35%
Sky have not seen any significant rise in subscriptions since the channels were pulled
(Replacement channels on VM aren't being charged any carriage fees)

Pretty interesting read but not convinced. No source given for the facts and figures plus this time of year is notorious for a drop in viewing figures as the school holidays start and millions of Brits go abroad on holiday. Would be fascinated to know Dave and Gold's viewing figures for the same 2 week period in 2017. That would be the most accurate barometer.

Mr K 05-08-2018 22:57

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35958306)
Pretty interesting read but not convinced. No source given for the facts and figures plus this time of year is notorious for a drop in viewing figures as the school holidays start and millions of Brits go abroad on holiday. Would be fascinated to know Dave and Gold's viewing figures for the same 2 week period in 2017. That would be the most accurate barometer.

Well Gold had the highest pay TV viewing figure last Tuesday (that's without VM). https://mobile.twitter.com/UKTV/stat...94219615756290

denphone 06-08-2018 04:36

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35958306)
Pretty interesting read but not convinced. No source given for the facts and figures plus this time of year is notorious for a drop in viewing figures as the school holidays start and millions of Brits go abroad on holiday. Would be fascinated to know Dave and Gold's viewing figures for the same 2 week period in 2017. That would be the most accurate barometer.

Another load of unsubstantiated facts Chad because as usual the media pluck up figures multiply it by ten and Bobs your uncle.

Pster72 06-08-2018 05:45

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This is getting boring now they just need to do a deal soon or the customers will just get used to not having them and get on with there lives i am with Virgin mostly for the broadband and V6 box not UKTV i admit i did watch some of theses channels but i am not going to cry about it

RichardCoulter 06-08-2018 12:33

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35958271)
As I said in your other thread. Changing any part of your current contract be it going to the free TV service or what ever has logically to become a new contract.

The terms of your contract will have changed and will cancel your existing one.

I am referring to them reintroducing a minimum term when customers change packages as part of this.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35958284)
Although, as I have already mentioned to Richard, he can pull out of a contract as soon as the next price rises are announced.

Well, it's coming to something when one is to expected to hope that a price rise takes place.
Another thing preventing me from leaving is that I have paid line rental upfront for a year and they will not refund this.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35958295)
I would not put them past it to have a price rise though.

Neither would I.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35958306)
Pretty interesting read but not convinced. No source given for the facts and figures plus this time of year is notorious for a drop in viewing figures as the school holidays start and millions of Brits go abroad on holiday. Would be fascinated to know Dave and Gold's viewing figures for the same 2 week period in 2017. That would be the most accurate barometer.

They are probably based on the BARB figures; yes it would be interesting to compare from one year ago. The removal of the channels is bound to have had an effect on UKTV viewing figures but, given that half of the channels are freely available elsewhere, but the drop reported here looks to be higher than would have been expected.

pip08456 06-08-2018 12:35

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958333)
I am referring to them reintroducing a minimum term when customers change packages as part of this.

Any contract always has a minimum term, previously VM may have considered this to be the extent of the previous contract.

Now they don't. VM are not doing anything wrong.

RichardCoulter 06-08-2018 12:38

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It used to be 30 days, so is it now one year?

Mythica 06-08-2018 12:41

Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958333)
I am referring to them reintroducing a minimum term when customers change packages as part of this.

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Well, it's coming to something when one is to expected to hope that a price rise takes place.
Another thing preventing me from leaving is that I have paid line rental upfront for a year and they will not refund this.

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Neither would I.

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They are probably based on the BARB figures; yes it would be interesting to compare from one year ago. The removal of the channels is bound to have had an effect on UKTV viewing figures but, given that half of the channels are freely available elsewhere, but the drop reported here looks to be higher than would have been expected.

You've been moaning about VM for years haven't you? Yet seem to be using excuses of why you cant leave that have happened in the past year.


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