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Anypermitedroute 28-03-2017 17:56
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35892107)
You didnt post from Austria ;)
I said I am setup, fully moved over as of 9th April

gba93 28-03-2017 18:00
Re: Brexit: Article 50 to be triggered: TOMORROW!
 
Nicola Sturgeon's call for a second referendum on independence for Scotland has been formally backed by the Scottish Parliament. MSPs voted by 69 to 59 in favour of seeking permission for a referendum before the UK leaves the EU.

As it wasn't carried by a clear two-thirds majority shouldn't this be treated as null and void? :confused:

pip08456 28-03-2017 18:04
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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35892112)
Nicola Sturgeon's call for a second referendum on independence for Scotland has been formally backed by the Scottish Parliament. MSPs voted by 69 to 59 in favour of seeking permission for a referendum before the UK leaves the EU.

As it wasn't carried by a clear two-thirds majority shouldn't this be treated as null and void? :confused:
They can vote for what they want, Westminster has the final say.

papa smurf 28-03-2017 18:25
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35892113)
They can vote for what they want, Westminster has the final say.
they didn't know what they where voting for /they are uneducated /its a protest vote /Scotland can't survive on its own /Nicola sturgeon is insane .

i'm a scremoaner

gba93 28-03-2017 18:28
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35892117)
they didn't know what they where voting for /they are uneducated /its a protest vote /Scotland can't survive on its own /Nicola sturgeon is insane .

i'm a scremoaner
Five out of Five - brilliant :nworthy:

Ramrod 28-03-2017 21:08
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Chris 28-03-2017 22:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35892112)
Nicola Sturgeon's call for a second referendum on independence for Scotland has been formally backed by the Scottish Parliament. MSPs voted by 69 to 59 in favour of seeking permission for a referendum before the UK leaves the EU.

As it wasn't carried by a clear two-thirds majority shouldn't this be treated as null and void? :confused:
No, I don't think supermajorities are used anywhere in U.K. governance. They're normally employed in countries with written constitutions, where amendments to the constitution have been proposed.

Damien 28-03-2017 22:34
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35892131)
No, I don't think supermajorities are used anywhere in U.K. governance. They're normally employed in countries with written constitutions, where amendments to the constitution have been proposed.
Would the 2/3rds majority required to call an early election not count? Assuming that in such a scenario they don't go for the no confidence option.

gba93 28-03-2017 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35892131)
No, I don't think supermajorities are used anywhere in U.K. governance. They're normally employed in countries with written constitutions, where amendments to the constitution have been proposed.
Agreed but it was the argument used by remoaners after the referendum when there was only a small absolute majority ~ it's funny how some find an argument valid when they don't like an outcome but not when it's the other way round.

pip08456 28-03-2017 22:54
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35892136)
Would the 2/3rds majority required to call an early election not count? Assuming that in such a scenario they don't go for the no confidence option.
They can call an election to the Scottish parliament which may/may not give power to the SNP but it is down to Westminster to grant another referendum.

It would be better for the "fishwife" to call an election to see if they were returned with a majority which would tell Westminster that was the will of the electorate rather than the "fishwife" saying it is.

She's posturing and is sh8t scared of going to the people.

Chris 28-03-2017 23:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35892136)
Would the 2/3rds majority required to call an early election not count? Assuming that in such a scenario they don't go for the no confidence option.
Well you learn something every day.

Yes, a 2/3 majority is needed to dissolve parliament and call an election.

Sturgeon won't get that. She doesn't have the numbers and the other parties have no reason to cooperate.

Route 2 is a vote of no confidence. Obviously that won't happen either.

Route 3 is intriguing: if Sturgeon resigns as FM and no replacement is appointed within 28 days, then there must be a general election. Would she do that? It would be highly risky.

pip08456 29-03-2017 00:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35892143)
Well you learn something every day.

Yes, a 2/3 majority is needed to dissolve parliament and call an election.

Sturgeon won't get that. She doesn't have the numbers and the other parties have no reason to cooperate.

Route 2 is a vote of no confidence. Obviously that won't happen either.

Route 3 is intriguing: if Sturgeon resigns as FM and no replacement is appointed within 28 days, then there must be a general election. Would she do that? It would be highly risky.
I wish she would. Highly unlikely though.

pip08456 29-03-2017 07:52
Re: Brexit: Article 50 to be triggered: TODAY!
 
EU ambassador, Sir Tim Barrow will deliver Brexit notification at 12.30 today.

Champagne at the ready guys!

Remoaners take note:-

Quote:
May called the German chancellor, Angel Merkel, the president of the European Council, Donald Tusk, and the president of the European Commission, Jean Claude Juncker, on Tuesday evening to update them ahead of sending the letter.

A Downing Street spokesperson said: “In separate calls, they agreed that a strong EU was in everyone’s interests and that the UK would remain a close and committed ally. They also agreed on the importance of entering into negotiations in a constructive and positive spirit, and of ensuring a smooth and orderly exit process.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...MCNEWEML6619I2

Ramrod 29-03-2017 08:32
Re: Brexit: Article 50 to be triggered: TODAY!
 
Song for the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Y11hwjMNs
:)

jonbxx 29-03-2017 08:59
Re: Brexit: Article 50 to be triggered: TODAY!
 
I voted remain and I have seen noting to change my mind to date. I think leaving is a self destructive move but hey ho, that's democracy... I hope I am wrong but we just don't know yet

I hope the above quite comes true;

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A Downing Street spokesperson said: “In separate calls, they agreed that a strong EU was in everyone’s interests and that the UK would remain a close and committed ally. They also agreed on the importance of entering into negotiations in a constructive and positive spirit, and of ensuring a smooth and orderly exit process.”
A constructive, pragmatic approach has to be the way forward. Selling this however to some will be difficult (Rees-Mogg, Redwood, I am looking at you)


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