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mike_gain 25-10-2016 13:14
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35865522)
We've discussed before how many, once they are used to a UI, don't want to change or can't see the benefits of an updated one. People ridiculed the iPad as an oversized phone that couldn't make calls, before they got to use one.

I'm not saying that's you, but still it can be hard to appreciate the benefits from a spec sheet or a brief play. Sky Q is still in development and has some rough edges.
If Sky Q just has a better UI it kind of back up my point that it's not as revolutionary as is being made out. I think the UI is very sleek but it doesn't have the functionality that I don't already have available to me. In short looks and feels great but not enough to justify taking out a Sky contract.

This comes from more than just a quick play, perhaps poor choice of words on my part. I spent a few weeks running through some tests I had to see the outcome, comparing it with my Tivo. I was genuinely interested in switching to Sky but felt slightly underwhelmed, the same way i would if someone brought a Sonos system to my house and started playing music wirelessly.....when I already have this via several of Raspery Pis and several Class-D amps.

My main point is that Sky Q isn't as far ahead that a new PVR couldn't at least match it and VM customers can at least expect this will be the case with the new Tivo. However my own opinion is that a TiVO powered VM box is unlikely to be up to the job both when it's released and, due to Sky's apparent frequency of updating Sky Q, in the future.

Jong1 25-10-2016 13:23
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35865578)
I never said it did I said they've already launched UHD footy , the lead on the Sky Q project said he's confident the standards for HDR will work with the current Sky Q hardware. Remember Sky is part of the UHD alliance so I'm pretty sure they know what's going on in the industry and requirements for the different standards.
Absolutely, not disagreeing with any of that.

Horizon 25-10-2016 13:24
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35865583)
If Sky Q just has a better UI it kind of back up my point that it's not as revolutionary as is being made out. I think the UI is very sleek but it doesn't have the functionality that I don't already have available to me. In short looks and feels great but not enough to justify taking out a Sky contract.

This comes from more than just a quick play, perhaps poor choice of words on my part. I spent a few weeks running through some tests I had to see the outcome, comparing it with my Tivo. I was genuinely interested in switching to Sky but felt slightly underwhelmed, the same way i would if someone brought a Sonos system to my house and started playing music wirelessly.....when I already have this via several of Raspery Pis and several Class-D amps.

My main point is that Sky Q isn't as far ahead that a new PVR couldn't at least match it and VM customers can at least expect this will be the case with the new Tivo. However my own opinion is that a TiVO powered VM box is unlikely to be up to the job both when it's released and, due to Sky's apparent frequency of updating Sky Q, in the future.
I just want the feature to reorder the channels wherever I want and on whatever numbers I want. I can do this on my 10 year old freeview box costing £17, yet have not been able to do this on a cable box for a similar amount of time.

I don't want advanced stuff, just basic things including speed of use.

Jong1 25-10-2016 13:30
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35865580)
I agree, which is why I didn't buy a "HDR" tv this year.

When next years tvs come out, I'm looking for the "compatible with HDR BBC Iplayer shows" badge, or whatever it will be called before I hand over my cash.

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When the BBC were doing their 4k/HDR tests earlier this year they were using a transponder on the Astra satellite and I'd bet Sky were involved in that.

As Jong said, current tvs may be compatible with HLG, but its whether the tv manufacturers choose to enable the feature. Samsung were asked this directly a few months ago whether they would enable HLG on their current HDR tvs and their response was silence.... yet they tout their top of their range tvs as being fully HDR compatible.
As an owner of a 2016 LG OLED I have a very personal interest in this one!

LG have gone further than Samsung, demonstrating HLG on their "newest OLED TVs". Nonetheless I am still not putting any big bets on it!

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35865583)
If Sky Q just has a better UI it kind of back up my point that it's not as revolutionary as is being made out. I think the UI is very sleek but it doesn't have the functionality that I don't already have available to me. In short looks and feels great but not enough to justify taking out a Sky contract.

This comes from more than just a quick play, perhaps poor choice of words on my part. I spent a few weeks running through some tests I had to see the outcome, comparing it with my Tivo. I was genuinely interested in switching to Sky but felt slightly underwhelmed, the same way i would if someone brought a Sonos system to my house and started playing music wirelessly.....when I already have this via several of Raspery Pis and several Class-D amps.

My main point is that Sky Q isn't as far ahead that a new PVR couldn't at least match it and VM customers can at least expect this will be the case with the new Tivo. However my own opinion is that a TiVO powered VM box is unlikely to be up to the job both when it's released and, due to Sky's apparent frequency of updating Sky Q, in the future.
Fair enough. I would say that Sky Q offers more than juts a UI refresh. Again, a bit like the iPad, it opens up a different way of working that is hard to back away from. But I get that not everyone will ever feel the need for it.

Horizon 25-10-2016 13:51
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35865587)
As an owner of a 2016 LG OLED I have a very personal interest in this one!

LG have gone further than Samsung, demonstrating HLG on their "newest OLED TVs". Nonetheless I am still not putting any big bets on it!.
Blimey, you've got money to burn...! I saw those in the shops, very nice.

I think for you, regardless of HDR, any of those OLED tvs are far, far better than any LCD tv on the market today. So, perhaps you might lose a bit of extra colour if it doesn't turn out to be compatible, but really, they're the best tvs around. If I had one of those, I wouldn't be too fussed with HDR.

Do you like it?:)

BTW, Samsung also demonstrated HLG on a specially modded 2016 tv. That was when they were asked if they were going to upgrade all their tvs, only for the questioner to be met with a wall of silence.

Jong1 25-10-2016 14:07
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The closest I have ever seen to the perfect TV! Hard to fault. Even SDR looks HDR-like, with those inky blacks :)

Very much recommended!

Horizon 25-10-2016 14:14
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I'm hoping the price of the current oled models will come down a lot when the new ones come out, so I will consider then.

I do need a new tv for the living room and was looking at a panasonic, but for the reasons already stated I will wait until next year and see what the manufacturers release.

Ultimate.Conj 25-10-2016 14:41
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35865595)
The closest I have ever seen to the perfect TV! Hard to fault. Even SDR looks HDR-like, with those inky blacks :)

Very much recommended!
Mine is coming Thursday :-)
Ready to be hooked up to the PS4 pro and V6 (when it finally comes out) :-)

Jong1 25-10-2016 15:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Enjoy! It's a great set :)

Ultimate.Conj 25-10-2016 17:21
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Streaming from V6 box to phone/tablet/laptop via TV Anywhere app will be a feature...woo hoo.

Info thanks to SENSE on the Coming Soon thread

denphone 25-10-2016 17:24
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35865623)
Streaming from V6 box to phone/tablet/laptop via TV Anywhere app will be a feature...woo hoo.

Info thanks to SENSE on the Coming Soon thread
And there you was the other day being a pessimistic little soul.;)

Horizon 25-10-2016 17:31
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The fact that VM are talking about V6 in relation to TV Anywhere would suggest it's about to launch otherwise why bother mentioning it?

1andrew1 25-10-2016 17:32
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35865627)
And there you was the other day being a pessimistic little soul.;)
Believ6 in better :)

Ultimate.Conj 25-10-2016 17:32
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35865627)
And there you was the other day being a pessimistic little soul.;)
Really, Are you sure?
I've never said anything bad about the V6 box :angel:

denphone 25-10-2016 17:41
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35865632)
Really, Are you sure?
I've never said anything bad about the V6 box :angel:
It was meant in jest UC.:)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35865631)
Believ6 in better :)
No doubt the usual reliable doomsayers will say entirely the opposite Andrew.;)


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