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blue666666 30-01-2014 15:57

Re: Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014
 
Was hoping the WWE network would come the UK, but with sky a deal with the WWE for all raw Smackdown and all THE PPV. Can't see the network being much valued. might have to get a VPN and do what you do theone2k10

nialli 30-01-2014 15:59

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One of the ironies of Sky Atlantic is that it missed out on many of the most popular US imports - True Blood (HBO but carriage with Fox), Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Homeland, House of Cards, Sons of Anarchy. Also, many of its original shows are now drawing to a close (Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire both ending with the next season) whilst the new shows have proven to have little appeal (with the notable exception of Game of Thrones). I still wonder how it makes money for Sky. I once considered jumping to Sky for it, now I would rather have Netflix. Truth is, I have access to Atlantic via my NowTV box but I rarely look at it.

passingbat 30-01-2014 16:11

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35667462)
Truth is, I have access to Atlantic via my NowTV box but I rarely look at it.

The problem with Atlantic on Now TV is that they don't have previous seasons, so there is little incentive to watch shows that are at least one season old. MM has said that back seasons do appear over time, but who wants to have to keep checking periodically?

I think Sky did a good thing launching Now TV, because streaming is the way of the future. But particularly with HBO, they should have got the back catalogue rights, because if they had done so, I think a lot more people would be interested in subscribing to Now TV just for the HBO shows.

theone2k10 30-01-2014 16:13

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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35667461)
Was hoping the WWE network would come the UK, but with sky a deal with the WWE for all raw Smackdown and all THE PPV. Can't see the network being much valued. might have to get a VPN and do what you do theone2k10

It's coming at the end of 2014, i use unblock-us mate.

muppetman11 30-01-2014 16:29

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35667465)
The problem with Atlantic on Now TV is that they don't have previous seasons, so there is little incentive to watch shows that are at least one season old. MM has said that back seasons do appear over time, but who wants to have to keep checking periodically?

I think Sky did a good thing launching Now TV, because streaming is the way of the future. But particularly with HBO, they should have got the back catalogue rights, because if they had done so, I think a lot more people would be interested in subscribing to Now TV just for the HBO shows.

They do however I fully agree its a ridiculous situation , the other month 6 seasons of The Sopranos were on Sky OD and Now TV with an expiry date a month from them first arriving.

The box set side of the HBO deal has been brought up many times on numerous Sky forums/consumer feedback hopefully someone's been listening. Girls (HBO) Seasons 1&2 are now available with an expiry date in mid April so hopefully this will continue , most need a few months to digest boxsets.

jj20x 30-01-2014 16:52

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35667446)
It was said with a hint of sarcasm. It was what entered my head after reading those 'Sky Television ate my gerbil' posts. :D

Yes, of course, but the point I was making was that if Tesco entered into such an agreement with the fuel companies it would be a cartel operating in restraint of trade and the courts would swiftly bring that arrangement to an end. Why is the tv market so different?

vincerooney 30-01-2014 17:14

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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35667461)
Was hoping the WWE network would come the UK, but with sky a deal with the WWE for all raw Smackdown and all THE PPV. Can't see the network being much valued. might have to get a VPN and do what you do theone2k10

Nah i still see it coming pal. WWE are doing deals with companies in USA to continue with the pay per view sales over there. The network is separate though they do imagine ppv sales in USA to plummet as a result. The deal between sky and wwe probably has taken into consideration the fact that sky imagine a hit on ppv sales over here too as a result.

Its probably the reason why sky are now offering all the PPV's via sky box office only (to try and get some money back) now and no longer offer any freebies (though we pay for sky sports its hardly free!).

I hope the wwe network is a reasonable price in the uk too. US is 10 dollars so should be 7 quid here. No doubt we'll be charged ten pounds too.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35667458)
Using a vpn you'll get around that by subscribing to WWE Network for about £7p/m + £3p/m for vpn :D this is the way i'll be watching the ppvs etc.

I'll be asking for your help on this when it launches as i'll want to do it this way too!

blue666666 30-01-2014 17:38

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Sky say they are not bothered by the WWE network, but it will be a lot cheaper than sky box office, $10 a month and you get all PPV. So when it comes to the UK even if its £10 still dam cheaper than box office.

ozsat 30-01-2014 17:41

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TLC was on Sports in December.

Elimination Chamber is on Sky Sports 1 on 23 Feb.

So some are still not on SBO.
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35667490)
Nah i still see it coming pal. WWE are doing deals with companies in USA to continue with the pay per view sales over there. The network is separate though they do imagine ppv sales in USA to plummet as a result. The deal between sky and wwe probably has taken into consideration the fact that sky imagine a hit on ppv sales over here too as a result.

Its probably the reason why sky are now offering all the PPV's via sky box office only (to try and get some money back) now and no longer offer any freebies (though we pay for sky sports its hardly free!).

I hope the wwe network is a reasonable price in the uk too. US is 10 dollars so should be 7 quid here. No doubt we'll be charged ten pounds too.



I'll be asking for your help on this when it launches as i'll want to do it this way too!


JustaBloke 30-01-2014 17:44

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35667477)
Yes, of course, but the point I was making was that if Tesco entered into such an agreement with the fuel companies it would be a cartel operating in restraint of trade and the courts would swiftly bring that arrangement to an end. Why is the tv market so different?

It's not. There is no restraint of trade here. Sky hasn't bought up all the TV channels, there are hundreds available elsewhere. On VM, Freeview, BT, Talk Talk et al.

If (say) Shell decided to close it's UK forecourts and sell its petrol exclusively at Tesco, there'd be sadness at any redundancies but the arrangement would go ahead without question.

That's all Sky are doing. They're not denying us all TV, they're simply denying us a flavour (for want of a better word) of it to encourage us to use their platform rather than VMs.

Tricky Trevor 30-01-2014 17:56

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Nice to see that Spotify on Tivo has at last had a long overdue update with a search function added.

jj20x 30-01-2014 18:10

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Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35667500)
It's not. There is no restraint of trade here. Sky hasn't bought up all the TV channels, there are hundreds available elsewhere. On VM, Freeview, BT, Talk Talk et al.

If (say) Shell decided to close it's UK forecourts and sell its petrol exclusively at Tesco, there'd be sadness at any redundancies but the arrangement would go ahead without question.

That's all Sky are doing. They're not denying us all TV, they're simply denying us a flavour (for want of a better word) of it to encourage us to use their platform rather than VMs.

They are operating a cartel with HBO to control supply of HBO programmes within the UK market. The equivalent comparison with fuel supply would be to say electric cars are also available.

vincerooney 30-01-2014 18:19

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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35667497)
Sky say they are not bothered by the WWE network, but it will be a lot cheaper than sky box office, $10 a month and you get all PPV. So when it comes to the UK even if its £10 still dam cheaper than box office.

aye exactly. i know a lot of people who will just dump sky sports now as a result as you can watch raw/smackdown a few days after anyway. i think the ppv prices are a huge rip off both in usa and uk. 20 odd quid for a ppv to watch at 1am-4am in the morning on a sunday night....quite outrageous! if it was a saturday or sunday at a reasonable time that'd be fine.

aye i knew a few had been free. it seems this new contract will make all the monthly ppvs on box office from 2015 and no more freebies?

nodrogd 30-01-2014 18:28

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Anyone for free channels. You could always move to Switzerland, where UPC are throwing them at you:

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...hannels-in-hd/

Can't ses VM doing this in the near future can you?

denphone 30-01-2014 18:34

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Not in a month of Sunday's.


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