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This one doesn't, but then again I don't rate Wilshere that highly either, always likely to pick up bookings, a bit like Paul Scholes but he is miles away from Scholes in class.

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Is all Upper East now season tickets?

Thats the only way i can see this deal happening. Why would Chelsea help relieve any pressure on United even if they don't see them as a rival any more, which would be stupid after just half a season. There must be some sort of agreement for Rooney if the deal happens.

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What United fans reckon this?

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Not all of it, near our seats most of the peeps are there every week but you do see other seats occupied by different people all the time, plus there must be an area right at the top/back with a block of non season ticket seats. They are often filled with kids groups from various clubs and schools at cup games and less attractive home games.

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The ones that chant Cleverleys better than Wilshere in the stadium, OT and Emirates.

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The other possibility is that Mourinho is stringing United along hoping they don't improve their squad and knowing that if United failed to sign Mata now, after all these 'almost done' stories, that it will help increasing the pressure on Moyes after the Fabregas fiasco in the Summer. After all if it did fail it would suggest nativity and inexperience on the part of Moyes and United....

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So you take every single chant you hear as gospel, a good dose of irony never hurt anyone.;)

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:LOL:

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Also, i've never heard that song? How does it go? I only know one song about Cleverley and it has no mention of Jack Wilshere in it.

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Ask your fellow Utd fans, those that are left that is. It was chanted a few seasons ago.

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First I've heard of this.

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The only song, directed at Arsenal, I've heard United sing regularly is the one about Wenger.

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:confused: none of them have left AFAIK, complained, become frustrated at times, but they are still the best supported club in the country. How many years of underachievement it will take to dent that I'm not sure but you can bet their home gate won't drop to the levels that it did at certain clubs when they dropped down the leagues.;)

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Man Utd fans and twitter

http://talksport.com/capital_one_cup...s-14012276766?

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I think you'll find his role is headless chicken, it's a relatively new concept like false number nine etc

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He can harm them next season, unless it's going to be a loan deal, which isn't, if Jose said straight swap for Rooney, utd should accept imo

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Looks like the deal will be completed very quickly, you would assume a verbal agreement would have been made on Sunday after the match, now its in writing.

£35 million for a player that can't get into your first team :sleep:

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I'm surprised a United "fan" on here hasn't said something like that yet...

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Viera's got a nice song we sing :)

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l have to say that l am very surprised that Mata will be going to OT unless there is something else that these clubs have come to a agreement on.

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I am beginning to come around to the idea of no transfer window during the season tbh.

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I'm not. Arsenal will most probably make a signing in the final days if its not done earlier. Wenger has already said the last 3 days will be active.

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Why?.

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We're bracing ourselves for Spurs to come in with a bid for Mata. They'll start at £10m plus Gomez...

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Or PSG Cavani :(

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You're on! I'll ring up PSG. acting as a third party, and get the ball rolling...

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If Mourinho thinks they don't need Mata I'd trust Mourinho. I wouldn't bet against him. Chelsea have a ridiculous midfield and they're mostly youngsters that are getting better each game. Hazard is twice as good this season. Mata is brilliant but it's evident Chelsea don't need him. United can ill afford to have spent £50+ Million on two players that didn't perform so I hope for their sake Mata does well. I thought Mourinho had gone insane when he signed Eto'o but it was a free signing and the bloke became the 5th player to score 3 past United in the EPL...

Anyone that thinks Mourinho still wants that job, I doubt it. After being apparently turned down I can imagine someone like Mourinho snubbing them if they came asking just out of bitterness.

Third point then and onto whether Chelsea actually need Rooney? Nope. It's evident he'd make the first team on name alone. Torres makes the first team despite Demba Ba outscoring him in all three previous seasons. If Demba Ba changed his name to Demba Rooney it would be a different story. Romelu Lukaku looks better than Rooney, Torres and Ba so it answers itself.

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Man Utd: Gea; Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Buttner; Januzaj, Carrick, Fletcher, Kagawa; Welbeck, Hernandez

Subs: Lindegaard, Evra, Jones, Cleverley, Giggs, Young, Valencia

Sunderland: Mannone, Bardsley, Alonso, Brown, O'Shea (c), Cattermole, Colback, Ki, Johnson, Borini, Fletcher

Subs: Larsson, Gardner, Celustka, Altidore, Giaccherini, Vergini, Ustari

come on sunderland we can do it

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/01/20.jpg



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Chelsea really have lost their minds.

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If Real Madrid can sell Ozil...

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Both costing around 40 odd m £. Who is better value for money? Ozil.

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I suppose I have to trust the judgement of Jose. Mata hasn't started as much as the previous 2 seasons, and I can't slate the teams Jose has picked recently. Something has to give and I'll be sad to see Mata go. I can't remember a player we've kept after he's said he wants to leave, which I assume Mata has, so cashing in is the only alternative if you don't want to keep someone who's unhappy. I would have loved him to stay and fight for his place for the rest of the season, but if he doesn't want to do that then the only option is the one that seems to be happening. :disturbd:

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No at £23 million Suarez is better value then the both of them.:)

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Why didn't SkySports ask Moyes about Mata pre match ?

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It's strengthening the opposition...

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And 10 odd m Thierry Henry better value than all 3 :p:

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l agree as l find it staggering that MU won't sell players to their rivals but Arsenal and Chelsea will have sold high class players to MU.

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Massive blow, possible cruciate ligament injury.

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That's because utd aren't their rivals anymore

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I know mate, but maybe they've set up some sort of deal where we get first dibs on Rooney. Jose obviously likes and wants him so that's always possible. But apart from that, it doesn't benefit us if we don't replace him. It leaves us short in that position as I posted earlier. It's all a bit :banghead: Unless Jose has a masterplan we don't know about....

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If it is that serious then he will miss the World Cup.

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Aren't Chelsea chasing Mohamed Salah? Liverpools interest is there for everyone to see.

Theres talk Rooney is Real Madrid bound. Also note Rooney is after a new contract bumper.

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The latest information is that Salah is flying into Merseyside tomorrow.

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I know nothing about being after Salah. Pity we didn't buy him before he scored against us... Regarding Wayne, that's the only thing I can think of when it comes to dealing with United. I'd say Real would be after the likes of Aguero and Suarez come the summer.

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He's a decent player Salah. Real Madrid did find cash to offer Lewandowski silly money. I wouldn't put it past them making a crazy offer for Suarez, Falcao, Aguero....

Chelsea have probably bitten at the ridiculous fee, nothing more. It will balance the books for FFP. I think it was reported they were in a bit of a sticky situation, going forward that is.

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But Rooney works very well alongside Ronnie.

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With the losses we reported recently, around £15m don't count towards meeting FFP as it was spent on youth development (Yeah yeah, I know, what development) training facility improvements and Chelsea football schools around the world. That apparently puts us below whatever the initial figure for losses are. You have to remember that the new TV deal dosh isn't counted til the end of this season. That plus £30m a year off Adidas from this season helps massively. As you say, the fee is probably the reason. Especially for someone who's essentially, and I hate to say it, just a squad player currently.

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I don't doubt that Russ. I just can't see him going there. The tarts are legal though so you can never say never...

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It would have been agreed that they wouldn't ask him. United would have basically said he won't give an interview if the question is asked. They will probably ask it after the match.

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12/13
Spent: around 100m
Received: around 23m
negative around 77m

13/14
Spent: around 88m
Received: around 24m
negative around 64m
- 37m Mata
negative around 27m

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:LOL: sod off then, get fined.

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As long as it meets FFP then that's all that matters. Roman didn't get where he is today without having very good accountants. Considering the massive debt all the Spanish teams are in, I think us and City will be fine. There's a interesting court case regarding Neymars true transfer fee coming up in Spain. The current Barca president has, allegedly, been hiding the true fee. It's said to be 90 million euros plus. We also made a profit in 12/13. That it was probably only a fiver is irrelevant...

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:shocked: 90m euros ?

ha thats wrong, poor attempt by the blogger

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/stat...09300847898624

Rosell would get well annoyed if Arsenal went and took a few more youngsters :LOL: not that I'd be looking to rub salt in a wound :) the guy would shout his mouth off at the Emirates like erm.. a season or two ago ha!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Barcelona.html One bloke owned 40 percent but only got that figure after the parents were payed, so he got 5.8 million. Ah, you found it when I was making a cuppa.

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cash in hand on the grounds of confidentiality would be hilarious.

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It's all these 2nd, 3rd and 4th party ownerships that confuse the issue at times. A lot of countries on mainland Europe benefit from all this. They can get a player for a fraction of his true value. Plus they all give out work permits to anyone that can kick a ball, then sell them on for a ridiculous profit. The Barca stuff is all internal politics. With all the members they have, there's bound to be plenty that don't get on. Especially near election time.

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Get rid of them, the agents. subsidise ticket pricing, increase stadia capacity.

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FFP might seem like it wants to even things out financially, but what I've mentioned above, along with the vastly unequal TV money Barca and Real get compared to the other teams in that league, make it anything but even. de Gea :o: Always a goal in Fergie time...

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What an end to this :shocked:

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YAY! Pens!!!

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I hate football

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Oh dear, De Gea...

Oh no, Hernandez...

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3 words. I. Am. Dying

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Right, sticking me neck out, I'll go Sunderland...

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Nah United at home. Should help a lot more.

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Yeah they gonna choke with those fans in front of them

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iadoms sitting behind that goal lol

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I meant they would miss their first kick...

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At least Mata can take a decent penalty... :erm: Shocking shoot-out really.

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Choking chokers. Man City probably can't believe their luck!!

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We'll done Sunderland. We'll deserved.

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Worst penalty shoot out of all time? Shockingly bad penalties.

Well done Sunderland

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na that was great entertainment :LOL:

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Wheres Dave. I told him to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! iadom needs a bit of grief having got out of dress shopping :LOL:

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I'm kind of sad now. Man City would have handed Utd their asses on a plate.

The 'neutral' didn't win after all ;)

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Of course this is pretty bad for Sunderland. The curse of the League Cup.

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Wengers is Spain watching Barcelona. Tello is apparently available and is playing out his skin, scored a hat trick.

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The Telegraph is reporting Mata will have his medical tomorrow and the United bid of £37 million has been accepted. Stupid from Chelsea.

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Stupid from Mata also...

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Mansour now owns Man City, New York City (starts playing 2015) and Melbourne Heart.

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:)im here mate on cloud nine :):):):)

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Next time listen to me no excuses!

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Ardiles in hospital after auto accident in The Falklands

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25854183

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No I wasn't, for the first time in my life I left before the final whistle, missed both of the last two goals.

I mitigation I must explain that I always go down to Old Trafford on the metrolink tram, five minutes walk from our house, 45 minutes on the tram and 10 to 15 minutes walk from either Old Trafford cricket ground or Trafford Bar. They are routing the tram lines through the middle of Oldham on a new link so the line from Rochdale/Oldham is closed right through to Central Park, just before Manchester Victoria. There is a bus service to replace it but it is a bit iffy later on.

Got the last but one bus from Central Park back to Shaw, just got home.

It was a crap game from start to finish, two very average sides, looks like I was lucky to miss the shoot out.:D

Still thenry, it did however show that United do have some fans left, how many empty seats did you see.:p:

Saving themselves for the Champions League. :dunce:

As a bit of light relief I am going to support one of my other teams on Saturday, will be watching Rochdale v Wednesday at Spotland.:cool:

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:cleader::cleader::cleader::cleader:

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Massive blow to Everton to with the traore deal not yet done...

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I just woke up, and found out Sunderland won :D

I had thought Man Utd had won (was using tablet, and was sleepy around that time).

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:ghugs:

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You will be fine after a good nights sleep my dear chap.:)

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Congratulations Dave.:handshake

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Just heard someone say on Talk Sport exactly how I'm feeling about Mata - great player but what's he going to do if there's nobody to supply him the ball? His signing won't cover the gaping hole in midfield . We need a new Keane, Schools or Cantona too.

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you left early didnt you? such a plastic fan. any real fan would have stayed and walked home ;) :LOL:

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we got a nice easy game in final Colin against I team I cant think name of :LOL::LOL::LOL: see you in final mate

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thanks Den:):)

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Just make sure you don't win it, remember what happened to Birmingham and Wigan after Wembley success.;)

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I was going to.say the same to you had utd got through :)

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we saved you getting hammered of your neighbours in final ;) have you recovered yet and what do you think of getting Mata

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/...chelsea-united

Oh do shut up Wenger.

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He should stop whinging and sign the one or two players he needs to win the title because that's possibly the difference between failure and glory this season but methinks he will fail to grasp that opportunity that is there for him.

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It really is an emergency at Old Trafford! Drunk man calls 999... to demand chat with Sir Alex after Sunderland humiliation :D

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He is a very good player, a bit surprised they let him go half way through the season. Still needs a deeper, Paul Scholes type of play maker. Will be interesting to see how and where he plays.

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yes think he be a great signing for you and yes be very interesting to see where he plays

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Chelsea FC ‏@chelseafc 7m
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Thieves.:(

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spot on Den :tu: Success is even sweeter when more obstacles are put in front of you.

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massive blow.

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are they being professional because hes on trial or .....

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Why? He was asked a direct question "Are you surprised Chelsea are selling Juan Mata to a rival?" and he answered it. He has said nothing that no one else has already said and he was surprised because Chelsea had previously said they would not sell to a direct rival.

Obviously though some people have a problem whenever a manager or football gives any opinion at all. No wonder press conferences and post-match interviews are such boring affairs.

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What is the players can't be found or don't fit into the squad? What if you buy a world class striker and he doesn't adapt to the Premier League? Transfers can lose you a title as well as win you one. It's especially risky when you need them to hit the ground running and more difficult when you consider that we're mid-season. Arsenal fans want Costa but he is at a team that are fighting at the top of the league, in the Champions League and for whom he is on form and looking for a World Cup spot.

Methinks Wenger has a pretty good understanding of football.

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Because he has a history of selling top players to rivals as the picture I posted indicates.

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So? He said he was surprised not that he hadn't done it himself.

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Surprised that another manager had done something he himself has done numerous times in the past? Just sounds odd to me.