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ScottishSteve 01-03-2020 14:41

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36026061)
Add ITV Encore and ITV Box Office to the list. ITV always seem to jump on the bandwagon late, waste their money for a couple of years then lose interest.

Totally agree, IMHO Britbox is probably a decade too late for them, though I suppose they did try then with Project Kangaroo but the competition commission never allowed it.

OLD BOY 02-03-2020 14:33

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36026041)
They did say there would eventually be shows commissioned exclusively for BritBox. It's risky launching the UK version without a few ready though, because once the perception of the service is that it's only old shows, it will be difficult to shift no matter how much you market it otherwise. Though Netflix managed it, despite still being full of old stuff.

It is indeed a risky strategy. I certainly would not have launched the service as they did.

Given the initial reaction to the old material on there, both Sky and Virgin have decided not to have Britbox on their platforms. That is bad news indeed for ITV. They could have done so much better thsn this, how disappointing! Where are all these originals we were promised, anyway.

Too little, too late when they start coming through, I expect.

Hugh 02-03-2020 16:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36026114)
It is indeed a risky strategy. I certainly would not have launched the service as they did.

Given the initial reaction to the old material on there, both Sky and Virgin have decided not to have Britbox on their platforms. That is bad news indeed for ITV. They could have done so much better thsn this, how disappointing! Where are all these originals we were promised, anyway.

Too little, too late when they start coming through, I expect.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36000496)
This is why I don't understand why so many people are so convinced that Britbox will fail.The popularity of archive material should not be underestimated.


pip08456 02-03-2020 16:42

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As OB said, where are all the originals promised. You need the originals to go along with archive material.

Legendkiller2k 02-03-2020 16:45

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DAZN launches in UK so much for those predicting it wouldn't launch in uk a while back https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...g-line-up.html

Streaming giants DAZN launch in the UK with plans to smash Sky and BT Sport's domination of the market by winning rights for big fights including Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury III AND Premier League coverage

denphone 02-03-2020 16:46

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026123)
As OB said, where are all the originals promised. You need the originals to go along with archive material.

There are hardly any which is a no no for any new streaming entrant.

pip08456 02-03-2020 16:48

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026125)
There are hardly any which is a no no for any new streaming entrant.

Exactly, they shouldn't have released britbox until they had some original content. They didn't, they'll fail.

OLD BOY 02-03-2020 16:53

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36026124)
DAZN launches in UK so much for those predicting it wouldn't launch in uk a while back https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...g-line-up.html

Streaming giants DAZN launch in the UK with plans to smash Sky and BT Sport's domination of the market by winning rights for big fights including Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury III AND Premier League coverage

Good find, LK.

The real surprise is that it has taken so long for a challenger to Sky to show their hand, but it's all going to happen now. And at £4.99, that's a bargain.

Expect it to go up a bit if they win the rights to the Premier league, though!

Raider999 02-03-2020 17:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36026127)
Good find, LK.

The real surprise is that it has taken so long for a challenger to Sky to show their hand, but it's all going to happen now. And at £4.99, that's a bargain.

Expect it to go up a bit if they win the rights to the Premier league, though!


Depending how much PL rights they get I would expect the monthly cost to jump to somewhere between £9.99 and £29.99pm - possibly after a short introductory period to try to get people on the hook (sorry interested)

OLD BOY 02-03-2020 17:35

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026123)
As OB said, where are all the originals promised. You need the originals to go along with archive material.

That's right, pip. I would have subscribed to Britbox by now myself if the promised originals had arrived. But as most regular contributors to this forum know, I would never dream of subscribing to an archive-only streaming service.

They should have been adding a minimum of one new series per week to gain interest and gain momentum, but instead we've just had additional archive programming. Or repeats, as referred to in normal parlence.

They need to get a move on, or the whole venture will fail. And will people give them a second chance at a later date, having decided the old stuff was not for them? Debateable.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36026134)
Depending how much PL rights they get I would expect the monthly cost to jump to somewhere between £9.99 and £29.99pm - possibly after a short introductory period to try to get people on the hook (sorry interested)

That's a very wide margin of error, Raider! :D

Phunkenstein 02-03-2020 17:38

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36026134)
Depending how much PL rights they get I would expect the monthly cost to jump to somewhere between £9.99 and £29.99pm - possibly after a short introductory period to try to get people on the hook (sorry interested)

They doubled their US price last year in one fell swoop (from 9.99 to 19.95) so they have form for increasing their prices!

But I expect we’ll see more people get unrealistically carried away thinking they’re going to get a huge portfolio of top tier sports for less than a fiver until the economics prove otherwise! In fact I think they’re being smart just focusing on one sport for now and spreading it across as many territories as possible.

muppetman11 02-03-2020 19:23

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Haven't we been here before wasnt Eleven Sports going to challenge.:D

denphone 02-03-2020 19:49

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36026148)
Haven't we been here before wasnt Eleven Sports going to challenge.:D

And what happened there..;)

jfman 02-03-2020 19:57

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36026127)
Good find, LK.

The real surprise is that it has taken so long for a challenger to Sky to show their hand, but it's all going to happen now. And at £4.99, that's a bargain.

Expect it to go up a bit if they win the rights to the Premier league, though!

Indeed, we’ve done sums before putting the cost of a service in excess of £30 a month assuming it can get 5 million subscribers. Ignoring things like VAT and additional sports rights for easy counting.

Or in other words, much more expensive than the Now TV deals that float around from time to time.

alwaysabear 02-03-2020 20:02

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36026148)
Haven't we been here before wasnt Eleven Sports going to challenge.:D

Exactly and they will need a Linear channel to make it work even if they manage to snag some rights.


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