Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

Forgive me but what a lot of hysterical nonsense. Do you really travel that often, that urgently or at such short notice that a British passport is going to be such an inconvenience to you at Calais or Malaga or wherever? You have to show your passport when you arrive at an external Schengen border already. When a plane from Heathrow lands at Paris CDG almost everyone getting off it currently goes to the EU passport queue and the non-EU queue is almost empty. On 30 March the two queues will swap and the net difference will be close to zero.

I too am entitled to an Irish passport ... I won’t be applying for one.

He can gain rights as in Irish citizen that he won’t have as a UK national.

Sephiroth

02-02-2019 21:53

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35981814)

He can gain rights as in Irish citizen that he won’t have as a UK national.

What rights would they be?

The right to submit to Franco/German hegemony?
The right to despise the UK?

Mr K	02-02-2019 22:12

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981816)

What rights would they be?

The right to submit to Franco/German hegemony?
The right to despise the UK?

The right to be a perfidious EU citizen, seems to give more rights and freedoms. Applications have rocketed and they've run out of application forms...

Sephiroth

02-02-2019 22:22

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981818)

The right to be a perfidious EU citizen, seems to give more rights and freedoms. Applications have rocketed and they've run out of application forms...

You're kidding! Our rights and freedoms are us good as anyone's. The rocketing applications are nothing to do with that; they are just travel insurance policies.

Hugh	02-02-2019 22:39

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981816)

What rights would they be?

The right to submit to Franco/German hegemony?
The right to despise the UK?

Terrible thing to say - I have Irish relatives, and know quite a few Irish, and I can’t think of one who despises the U.K. - unlike some, they don’t spend their time being derogatory about other countries...

jfman

03-02-2019 00:19

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981816)

What rights would they be?

The right to submit to Franco/German hegemony?
The right to despise the UK?

Some of us are getting there from within.

If you don’t know what rights Irish nationals have within the European Union have then it begs the question do you know what rights we have now? If not, perhaps this is an example of why the issue wasn’t appropriate to a referendum: ignorance of material facts.

TheDaddy

03-02-2019 07:43

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35981799)

I'm entitled to a German one, I don't think it's worth the hassle either, the only reason I'd apply is so my children could get one if they ever showed any desire to live and work in Europe, you know like what Nigel farage has done for his children, given them the opportunities He has denied for other peoples kids. Jacob really smug did the same for what he cares most about to, his cash, in fact some one far more qualified than myself should really look into these hypocritical snake oil salesmen and see exactly what they're getting up to or is it do as we say plebs not as we do and you might get some cheap shoes out of it

1andrew1

03-02-2019 09:02

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Doubtless, other factors alongside Brexit will be cited but given the current threat of no-deal, I defy any company to invest billions right now.

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@MarkKleinmanSky 18h18 hours ago
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EXCLUSIVE: Nissan will announce next week that it’s cancelling a plan unveiled in 2016 to build its X-Trail model at its Sunderland plant. Bombshell Brexit move for industry given that ministers gave Nissan secret reassurance over industry competitiveness.

https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-ca...-blow-11625885

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981816)

What rights would they be?

The right to submit to Franco/German hegemony?
The right to despise the UK?

Which countries despise the UK?

Mr K	03-02-2019 09:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981828)

Doubtless, other factors alongside Brexit will be cited but given the current threat of no-deal, I defy any company to invest billions right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-ca...-blow-11625885

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Which countries despise the UK?

It's just us that despises everyone else..

Sephiroth

03-02-2019 09:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981828)

Spain & Argentina, to name two.

Varadkar's lot as per this article 31-Jan behind the Torygraph paywall: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...p-anglophobia/
Partial extract from publicly available piece:

One hundred years ago, a small group of newly elected MPs met at the Mansion House in Dublin to declare Irish independence. Curiously, the passion that existed in Ireland back then for the inalienable right of nations to self-determination finds no contemporary echo when it comes to understanding the impulses that led to Brexit.

On the contrary, the Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, may have used the recent centenary of that First Dail to laud the aspiration to a “free, independent and democratic state”, but he shamelessly did so while asserting that it now finds its fullest expression in, and is best achieved through, membership of the EU. It’s a telling indication of where the Irish public mood stands...

The rest of the article is very clear about how the public in general feel and go along with Varadkar's perfidious behaviour, which will be to the detriment of their exports.

Mr K	03-02-2019 09:48

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The Germans actually love us for some reason. 'Englishness' goes down very well. (not the soccer hooligan type !)

denphone

03-02-2019 09:51

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981830)

It's just us that despises everyone else..

Hmmmm l don't personally.

nomadking

03-02-2019 10:25

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Any country that has a trade deal with the EU is very unlikely to not be prepared to have a similar deal with the UK.

jfman

03-02-2019 10:31

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35981840)

Any country that has a trade deal with the EU is very unlikely to not be prepared to have a similar deal with the UK.

We have less to offer so the chances are they’ll want more from us. Visas probably.

RichardCoulter

03-02-2019 11:17

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Now being reported on the BBC News channel that Theresa May has "had another idea" with regards to Brexit. What this is hasn't been disclosed as yet.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981819)

You're kidding! Our rights and freedoms are us good as anyone's. The rocketing applications are nothing to do with that; they are just travel insurance policies.

If we leave with no deal I might get one in order to continue using my EHIC card. I could also get a UK one in case I need assistance with any problems whilst abroad.

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Benefits will no longer be exportable if we leave with no deal, I wonder how this will affect pensioners in Spain? If their UK pensions stop, they will no longer be exempt from having to pay for Spanish healthcare:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...leave-daughter

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