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Paul 01-02-2019 15:53

Re: Brexit
 
More unnecessary digs, jibes and arguments removed, timeouts given.

Mr K 01-02-2019 15:55

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35981645)
That should/ought to focus parliament on the job.

Well they've all got their Feb half term skiing holidays to fit in aswell..... Even though the recess has been cancelled they kicked up a fuss and are now allowed to go ! https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...49122784568032

papa smurf 01-02-2019 16:00

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981652)
Well they've all got their Feb half term skiing holidays to fit in aswell..... Even though the recess has been cancelled they kicked up a fuss and are now allowed to go ! https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...49122784568032

That just beggars belief
BTW the link doesn't work.

Mr K 01-02-2019 16:01

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35981656)
That just beggars belief
BTW the link doesn't work.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...idays-13935427

1andrew1 01-02-2019 16:43

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981657)

Suggests they'll go for an extension doesn't it?

Mr K 01-02-2019 16:47

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981666)
Suggests they'll go for an extension doesn't it?

They might try and get some sneaky votes in depending on which MPs head for the slopes ;)

TheDaddy 01-02-2019 17:06

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981652)
Well they've all got their Feb half term skiing holidays to fit in aswell..... Even though the recess has been cancelled they kicked up a fuss and are now allowed to go ! https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...49122784568032

Hold on, I thought when they weren't in parliament they were working hard with their constituents, even being in prison won't stop some of them working hard for their constituents after all

1andrew1 01-02-2019 17:06

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35981667)
They might try and get some sneaky votes in depending on which MPs head for the slopes ;)

aka sloping off. :)
But Parliament will be closed now won't it?

papa smurf 01-02-2019 17:08

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35981673)
aka sloping off. :)
But Parliament will be closed now won't it?

I think they have plans to use the pairing option in any voting [i read that somewhere can't remember where.]

RichardCoulter 01-02-2019 17:21

Re: Brexit
 
...though that's been abused in the past.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...serious-damage

Chris 01-02-2019 19:24

Re: Brexit
 
Pairing only works when parliamentary business is uncontroversial and both sides of the House ultimately recognise the Executive’s right to govern and to control the business of the legislature.

None of those conditions apply at present. There are too many whip-defying rebels on both sides. I just don’t see how pairing can work, unless they’re limiting business to strictly non-Brexit related items of business.

Sephiroth 02-02-2019 11:08

Re: Brexit
 
Isn’t it time that the word “turd” be allowed back into this thread? We could match many MPs to the Description.

RichardCoulter 02-02-2019 11:11

Re: Brexit
 
Moggy now saying that he would accept a short extension to Article 50:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...cob-rees-mogg/

Sephiroth 02-02-2019 11:18

Re: Brexit
 
Difficult on the iPad to get the full URL from yesterday’s Torygraph Business Section, which reported:

A group of top German economists has told the EU to tear up the Irish backstop and ditch its ideological demands in Brexit talks, calling instead for a flexible Europe of concentric circles that preserves friendly ties with the UK.

Brussels must “abandon its indivisibility dogma” on the EU’s four freedoms and come up with a creative formula or risk a disastrous showdown with London that could all too easily spin out of control.

A joint report by the influential Ifo Institute and universities across Germany and Europe warned that Brussels may be deluding itself in thinking that the EU has the upper hand in all respects or that the British will inevitably capitulate before March 29.

“In a standard game of chicken, the actor who loses the most will dodge first. Can the EU really be sure that losses are sufficiently asymmetrically distributed that it ‘wins’ this game?” the report asked.

“This is a very dangerous game, both for the UK and for EU. It is wiser to take the threat of a hard Brexit at face value and react accordingly. Recognising that a hard Brexit is in no one’s interest and that it would cause irreparable political as well as economic damage, we call both on the UK government and the EU Commission to rethink their ‘red lines’ and return to the negotiation table,” it said.


---------- Post added at 11:18 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ----------

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-euideologues/

Got it.

Mr K 02-02-2019 11:24

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35981746)
Difficult on the iPad to get the full URL from yesterday’s Torygraph Business Section, which reported:

A group of top German economists has told the EU to tear up the Irish backstop and ditch its ideological demands in Brexit talks, calling instead for a flexible Europe of concentric circles that preserves friendly ties with the UK.

Brussels must “abandon its indivisibility dogma” on the EU’s four freedoms and come up with a creative formula or risk a disastrous showdown with London that could all too easily spin out of control.

A joint report by the influential Ifo Institute and universities across Germany and Europe warned that Brussels may be deluding itself in thinking that the EU has the upper hand in all respects or that the British will inevitably capitulate before March 29.

“In a standard game of chicken, the actor who loses the most will dodge first. Can the EU really be sure that losses are sufficiently asymmetrically distributed that it ‘wins’ this game?” the report asked.

“This is a very dangerous game, both for the UK and for EU. It is wiser to take the threat of a hard Brexit at face value and react accordingly. Recognising that a hard Brexit is in no one’s interest and that it would cause irreparable political as well as economic damage, we call both on the UK government and the EU Commission to rethink their ‘red lines’ and return to the negotiation table,” it said.


---------- Post added at 11:18 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ----------

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-euideologues/

Got it.

Don't suppose you could cut and paste the whole of the Torygraph each day (esp the sport)? I hate pay walls ;)


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