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Russ 20-04-2014 19:34

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35690667)
Do you honestly see him being binned though Russ? I keep reading that he'll be better next season when new players are brought in, but you could say that he's been working with new players, bar Rooney and Fellaini, all season. It'll be an interesting summer.

That's the worrying thing, I DON'T see him booted. They signed him on a megabucks deal that they won't want have to pay out on with a replacement on a similar contract. Don't get me wrong I wanted him sacked by half-time today but they'll probably give one more year and a massive transfer budget providing he offloads players at the same time.

The risk of course is he uses his second year to further destroy the club, something I have a bad feeling he'll succeed in doing, all the while maintaining that "I don't have a clue how to manage a team of this size" look on his face.

TheDaddy 20-04-2014 21:32

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35690642)
Nasty rooney..again

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I think Den was thinking long term..though only about Man utd struggling long term with Moyes :D, I hope i am not doing Mr Den a disservice.

What do you think I'm hoping for then?

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690658)
I can't find the post now but when Moyes was confirmed as manager I said back then he'd be useless, we'd win nothing and wouldn't make the top 4. Of course people said to not be so hasty, he's a great manager etc.

Yep.

Don't be hasty, he's a great manager

Russ 20-04-2014 21:36

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
For a team like Everton maybe.

TheDaddy 20-04-2014 22:20

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690710)
For a team like Everton maybe.

What a team that beat utd and is chasing champions league and therefore as a team doing better than utd, surely it's fergies fault anyway, he gave him the job.

Russ 20-04-2014 22:30

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35690722)
What a team that beat utd and is chasing champions league and therefore as a team doing better than utd, surely it's fergies fault anyway, he gave him the job.

This United team is technically stronger than the one that won the league by 11 points last season.

TheDaddy 20-04-2014 22:43

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690725)
This United team is technically stronger than the one that won the league by 11 points last season.

It's also technically a year older and more prone to injury plus the competition is better than twelve months ago, this season has been in the post a while and has finally arrived, it would've come no matter who was in charge.

Damien 20-04-2014 22:46

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690725)
This United team is technically stronger than the one that won the league by 11 points last season.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35690727)
It's also technically a year older and more prone to injury plus the competition is better than twelve months ago, this season has been in the post a while and has finally arrived, it would've come no matter who was in charge.

Also Alex Ferguson is a better manager and couldn't have been replaced like-for-like anyway.

Russ 20-04-2014 22:54

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35690729)
Also Alex Ferguson is a better manager and couldn't have been replaced like-for-like anyway.

True but only the most incompetent manager with zero experience of managing a club of this size could take a stronger team and oversee them perform worse than any other in more than 20 years.

That takes exceptional talent.

Damien 20-04-2014 22:59

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690731)
True but only the most incompetent manager with zero experience of managing a club of this size could take a stronger team and oversee them perform worse than any other in more than 20 years.

That takes exceptional talent.

I don't know. It wasn't exactly a unspoken theory that Fergie was going at the right time when he left. The team had a weak midfield and an ageing defence and needed a lot of work. Moyes couldn't have come in at a worse time from his point of view.

Russ 21-04-2014 06:26

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35690736)
I don't know. It wasn't exactly a unspoken theory that Fergie was going at the right time when he left. The team had a weak midfield and an ageing defence and needed a lot of work. Moyes couldn't have come in at a worse time from his point of view.

There's no doubt that the current United team is one of the weakest in some time however SAF was about to get last year's performance out of them. While no other manager would be able to repeat that even an above-decent one would find it difficult to drag the team down to the level we're at now.

denphone 21-04-2014 06:49

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The thing with Man Utd is in the next month do they stick and give David Moyes up to £200 million this summer and hope he gets the right players in or do they twist and decide that he is not up to the job and get a big name in?.

Russ 21-04-2014 07:30

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Well yeah!!

That's the risk factor I mentioned. What if they give him another year to bring in the right players which will obviously cost a lot of money and he continues to ruin the club? They aren't likely to agree another big transfer budget if he doesn't bring enough success to fund it.

This is why I still can't see why they brought in a manager who hasn't won any club trophies and has zero experience at this level.

denphone 21-04-2014 07:39

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Sir Alex was a great manager but basically to allow him to have such a influence in picking the next manager was folly in my opinion.

nstokes 21-04-2014 10:42

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Well as a MUFC fan this pains me to say but congrats to Liverpool for winning the EPL. Ok so its not actually over yet but i think they will win it and again it pains me to say that Liverpool deserve it.

colin25 21-04-2014 10:53

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35690859)
Well as a MUFC fan this pains me to say but congrats to Liverpool for winning the EPL. Ok so its not actually over yet but i think they will win it and again it pains me to say that Liverpool deserve it.

Yes, i agree (even with the pain :))

Who would have thought at the start..that Liverpool would win the league..and Atletico Madrid the spanish league.

The odds would have been good :)


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