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TimeLord2018 24-08-2024 08:19

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
Discovery+ will probably never get added now though imo, there isnt much point of adding it now, Max supersede it, new subscriptions to Discovery+ have ended where Max has launched , in Spain they have stopped adding content to Discovery+
https://support.discoveryplus.com/es...tail/000004479

I think Amazon got ahead of themselves in UK...
https://www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/e...on-prime-video

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181902)
It sounds like you are surrendering everything to Virgin. You have all the streamers you could possibly want on a "Smart" TV but here you are with the begging bowl out hoping Virgin, or anyone else, will "content aggregate" for you and provide you with a practical interface that even the biggest streaming fantasist cannot possibly dream of.

They've got you over a barrel, OB, for the most simple inadequacies of the streaming services themselves that all of us foreseen.

You don't Virgin or Sky really , see their comments about being both a platform and broadcasting business.

OLD BOY 24-08-2024 08:58

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181902)
It sounds like you are surrendering everything to Virgin. You have all the streamers you could possibly want on a "Smart" TV but here you are with the begging bowl out hoping Virgin, or anyone else, will "content aggregate" for you and provide you with a practical interface that even the biggest streaming fantasist cannot possibly dream of.

They've got you over a barrel, OB, for the most simple inadequacies of the streaming services themselves that all of us foreseen.

I don’t think you are understanding me. Virgin already provide the watchlist, with profiles to boot! So the aggregation you say I can’t get is already there! That is what I want, and I can’t get that from the Amazon Fire stick, can I?

I still don’t understand why you think I am ‘surrendering’ anything. There is no contract with Virgin Stream and I have three other means of accessing streamers if ever they let me down.

You seem to be missing the fact that under my plan, I pay VM about £30 as a one-off payment, and then nothing else. Works for me, and for many others, I would guess.

jfman 24-08-2024 09:01

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I'm fully aware of the inadequacies of the plethora of streaming sticks in the marketplace - I'm the one that's been saying for years that it doesn't match the EPGs of Sky, Virgin or even Freesat in terms of making content accessible.

OLD BOY 24-08-2024 13:04

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181908)
I'm fully aware of the inadequacies of the plethora of streaming sticks in the marketplace - I'm the one that's been saying for years that it doesn't match the EPGs of Sky, Virgin or even Freesat in terms of making content accessible.

In which case, you can see the attraction of Virgin Stream.

jfman 24-08-2024 13:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36181923)
In which case, you can see the attraction of Virgin Stream.

And TV360. All the same shtick as a Stream but with hard drive recording. No need to pony up skip ads like with the “streamers” if you catch the broadcast.

epsilon 24-08-2024 14:19

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36181907)
I don’t think you are understanding me. Virgin already provide the watchlist, with profiles to boot! So the aggregation you say I can’t get is already there! That is what I want, and I can’t get that from the Amazon Fire stick, can I?

I still don’t understand why you think I am ‘surrendering’ anything. There is no contract with Virgin Stream
and I have three other means of accessing streamers if ever they let me down.

You seem to be missing the fact that under my plan, I pay VM about £30 as a one-off payment, and then nothing else. Works for me, and for many others, I would guess.

I find it amusing that you have tried to sidestep away from the issue of surrendering control by changing the goalposts from the TV360 to Virgin Stream with no contract. However, even with Virgin Stream you still only get a handful of apps and only what Virgin curates for you.
It reminds me of earlier discussions where goalposts were moved. :D

OLD BOY 24-08-2024 17:23

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181924)
And TV360. All the same shtick as a Stream but with hard drive recording. No need to pony up skip ads like with the “streamers” if you catch the broadcast.

The difference being that you pay for a whole raft of channels you don’t want.

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36181927)
I find it amusing that you have tried to sidestep away from the issue of surrendering control by changing the goalposts from the TV360 to Virgin Stream with no contract. However, even with Virgin Stream you still only get a handful of apps and only what Virgin curates for you.
It reminds me of earlier discussions where goalposts were moved. :D

I get the apps I need on Virgin (apart from Discovery+ and NOW). However, we have been advised that Discovery is on its way and Max will be showing the Sky stuff I want to see (eg HBO shows), so that will provide me with everything I need. I will no longer require NOW or the Sky channels. Any new streamers that come along will be available through my TV sticks and my Smart TV if they are not on Virgin.

I won’t be ‘locked in’ to anything and I won’t be paying for channels I don’t watch.

jfman 24-08-2024 18:01

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
This seems somewhat a paradox since you currently subscribe to those same Virgin TV services you “don’t want”.

What’s the price difference between the lowest price bundle with a 360 and the lowest priced bundle with a stream?

epsilon 24-08-2024 19:37

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36181938)
I get the apps I need on Virgin (apart from Discovery+ and NOW). However, we have been advised that Discovery is on its way and Max will be showing the Sky stuff I want to see (eg HBO shows), so that will provide me with everything I need. I will no longer require NOW or the Sky channels. Any new streamers that come along will be available through my TV sticks and my Smart TV if they are not on Virgin.

I won’t be ‘locked in’ to anything and I won’t be paying for channels I don’t watch.

So you are saying that you will use other devices for apps that Virgin doesn't provide, so don't actually get aggregated bookmarks for all services, not forgetting that Netflix isn't aggregated either. This dependence on Virgin sounds very sub-optimal.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181946)
This seems somewhat a paradox since you currently subscribe to those same Virgin TV services you “don’t want”.

What’s the price difference between the lowest price bundle with a 360 and the lowest priced bundle with a stream?

It does seem rather odd for him to subscribe to Virgin for services he doesn't want, then to pay again for those unwanted services with a NOW subscription.

vincerooney 24-08-2024 23:42

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
whats the difference between the NFL game pass and sky sports....surely its cheaper to get sky sports on now tv if you wanted NFL as its like a fiver cheaper?

Kevc69 25-08-2024 07:57

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
NFL game pass - from DAZN has all the games and costs £160 for the year. SKY sports has a very limited selection of games in comparison 3-4 per week

OLD BOY 25-08-2024 23:47

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181924)
And TV360. All the same shtick as a Stream but with hard drive recording. No need to pony up skip ads like with the “streamers” if you catch the broadcast.

Yes, which you pay for. As I said, Virgin Stream is free.

epsilon 26-08-2024 14:29

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36182005)
Yes, which you pay for. As I said, Virgin Stream is free.

But don't you actually have the TV360? Two of them...

vincerooney 27-08-2024 01:12

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
any rumours on if premier sports will remain in the largest tv package going forward to replace TNT?

i assume not but still...

epsilon 27-08-2024 02:14

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36182031)
any rumours on if premier sports will remain in the largest tv package going forward to replace TNT?

i assume not but still...

The press release said until 31st August.
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...ughout-august/


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