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heero_yuy 30-09-2016 13:31
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Banana;35861192
[I
In so doing, he has made Labour a haven for people of odious dogma and bigotry. The Liverpool conference saw activists from his Momentum group openly selling pamphlets mocking disabled British soldiers and questioning the need to commemorate Jewish victims of the Holocaust.[/I]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2...a-that-has-ki/
They've taken on the old Tory mantle of the nasty party and embraced it wholeheartidly.

Venezuala is a shining example of what out-and-out socialism will do to a country's economy and population. You can't even get toilet paper there FGS.

rhyds 30-09-2016 13:41
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Corbynite claims (and a translation):

IT'S ALL A MAINSTREAM MEDIA SMEAR CAMPAIGN!!! (Newspapers covering what Jeremy Corbyn actually said)

IT'S ALL TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!!!! (Jeremy Corbyn didn't actually mean what he actually said)

---------- Post added at 13:41 ---------- Previous post was at 13:37 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35861198)
They've taken on the old Tory mantle of the nasty party and embraced it wholeheartidly.

Venezuala is a shining example of what out-and-out socialism will do to a country's economy and population. You can't even get toilet paper there FGS.
The toilet roll issue is a perfect example of how Bolivarian socialism doesn't work.

The government decided that the price of toilet rolls was too high, so they passed a law saying you can only sell Toilet Roll for (say) £1 for a 4-pack.

Problem is, it costs (say) £1.20 to actually make a 4-pack of toilet roll. Therefore nobody actually bothers making or selling bog roll...

Osem 30-09-2016 14:42
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35861198)
They've taken on the old Tory mantle of the nasty party and embraced it wholeheartidly.

Venezuala is a shining example of what out-and-out socialism will do to a country's economy and population. You can't even get toilet paper there FGS.
I bet some rose tinted folks don't have any problem getting hold of whatever they want and I'm sure we can guess who they are...

Damien 30-09-2016 14:56
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With regards to the Holocaust thing if you watch the video it's clear she is being heckled in the meeting. Even among Momentum activists she was isolated. Not that the left doesn't have an issue with anti-semitism but we shouldn't go overboard in assuming she speaks for them all.

rhyds 30-09-2016 15:38
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35861216)
With regards to the Holocaust thing if you watch the video it's clear she is being heckled in the meeting. Even among Momentum activists she was isolated. Not that the left doesn't have an issue with anti-semitism but we shouldn't go overboard in assuming she speaks for them all.
Momentum is apparently looking to chuck her out, while Labour is looking at letting her back in...

Osem 08-10-2016 09:32
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is facing a row over his new shadow cabinet, after the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party said he was not informed about the reshuffle.
John Cryer said in a letter to MPs that the party leadership had not told him or sacked chief whip Rosie Winterton about the changes.
The PLP had held talks with party leaders over shadow cabinet elections.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37594424

Another row...

ntluser 08-10-2016 10:54
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Corbyn's reshuffle is just like moving the deckchairs on the deck of the Titanic as the party is still going to sink in elections because, unlike Thersa May, he is not taking steps to address voters in the middle ground.

We know he appeals to the usual 30% of the electorate populated by Labour voters but does he appeal to voters beyond that? I think not, which means his party will be in opposition once again as a party of protest not of power.

Arthurgray50@blu 08-10-2016 12:15
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
He has lost my vote. He has this idea that 'its his party' but he is a prat. I have already emailed my MP about my vote.
What is the point of voting, when Miss May will smash Labour to pieces.

I want a party that looks after the people who make this country tick - that is the worker.

I get really fed up with in fighting of Labour MP who have never worked hard in there lives

papa smurf 08-10-2016 12:20
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35862502)
He has lost my vote. He has this idea that 'its his party' but he is a prat. I have already emailed my MP about my vote.
What is the point of voting, when Miss May will smash Labour to pieces.

I want a party that looks after the people who make this country tick - that is the worker.

I get really fed up with in fighting of Labour MP who have never worked hard in there lives
i get the feeling he thinks its the memberships party and not the [mp's] who should serve the membership not ignore them .

Osem 08-10-2016 12:51
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
What Comrade Corbyn needs to realise is that the vast majority of people who keep him and the rest of his Labour MPs in office are NOT party members and never will be.

Osem 09-10-2016 16:04
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Wow, peace appears to have broken out within the Corbynista Party at long last:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37602161

Quote:
Two Labour MPs have resigned from the shadow whips' office, just days after party leader Jeremy Corbyn reshuffled his front bench.
His decision to replace long-standing chief whip Dame Rosie Winterton with the man who preceded her in the role, Nick Brown, was met with some surprise.
MPs Holly Lynch and Conor McGinn have resigned, it was confirmed on Sunday.
Ms Lynch tweeted it was "time to focus" on her marginal constituency. Mr Corbyn thanked them for their service.
His spokesman added that their positions would be filled "in due course".
'Pleasure to serve'
Mr McGinn had clashed with Mr Corbyn in August, when he accused him of threatening to use Mr McGinn's father to "bully me into submission" after he spoke out against the Labour leader*.
Only joking... :)

* That'll be the 'new politics' in action then...

Sirius 09-10-2016 20:46
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35862647)
Wow, peace appears to have broken out within the Corbynista Party at long last:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37602161



Only joking... :)

* That'll be the 'new politics' in action then...
I am so happy at the moment, my dream has come true and that dream is Labour making itself unelectable in my life time. :)

heero_yuy 10-10-2016 09:04
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
'Labour really is being run by the Islington set': Map shows how Corbyn reshuffle leaves the Opposition in the hands of a tiny north London elite

Three shadow cabinet members represent constituencies immediately neighbouring his Islington North seat
Sir Keir Starmer, Emily Thornberry and Diane Abbott were all given key roles in the reshuffle
The quartet have been labeled an 'Islington mafia' as the map is widely shared online
Corbyn named 10 London MPs in his 33-strong shadow cabinet
Linky

All good working class constituencies I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Pierre 10-10-2016 17:23
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Anyone that has Diane Abbot on the front bench, clearly does not have any ambition to win the election.

Osem 10-10-2016 21:48
Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35862754)
Linky

All good working class constituencies I'm sure. :rolleyes:
Does that really matter though? Remember, Miliband used to be able to keep his finger firmly on the pulse of the 'common man' during his walks on Hampstead Heath... :rofl:


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