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What happens if there's kids involved?

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As in bringing back the workhouses you mean?

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If they will not work other than to make babies why should we fund them. You have to make a judgement call. Why should we fund the ones that will not work because they are lazy ***** and just spend the day baby making. ???

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And humping the misses every other day to produce yet another baby

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So what do you want to happen to the kids then?

I do agree with what you're saying but I don't have any answers to what happens when kids are involved, so what do you suggest?

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Maybe the kids are put with foster parents in the short term untill the lazy gits who refuse to work get the picture. Your right its difficult but at the moment its a get out clause to allow lazy gits who refuse to work to still get everything given to them on a plate.

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I'm more inclined to say they should only pay for the 1st child only. But starting from X date and not for existing families. At least that would be a start and send out a warning.

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I think it should be based on need.

I no longer receive child benefit, and to be honest I didn't need it so I wasn't bothered.

If my private pension pays out enough so that I don't need State pension as well, I'd also happily forgo that too.

I say if, as I can't predict the future.

Savings have to made, and this means and end to universal benefits across the board.

However, any government or prospective party would be mad to propose such a thing.

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Very good idea :tu:

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I agree but wider reform will only work if the benefits system shows it will not be 'blackmailed' into providing child related benefits for those who cynically, or otherwise, set about producing more and more children to secure housing and fund their lifestyles.

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Hasn't the benefit cap sorted that out ,or at least made a step In the right direction

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That's exactly what it is ,blackmail ,to force the state to support them by means of the kids

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Indeed they will get Benefits until there kids are 18 and for 15 miniets of fun. Not bad work if you can get it ;)

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I've always said if your on benefit you shouldn't have any new kids and even sign a contract to say you understand that whilst on benefit you agree and understand that if you do have kids you won't get extra money. It is lunacy that children can be used by the cynical to extend their benefit and any reform that stops it is one i'd support. Trouble is our biggest problem with welfare is that all political parties want it there so they can misuse it when they want to massage figures and it's why none of them will ever reform to a practical standpoint.

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15 minutes??!!... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :D

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And you're the Duracell rabbit, I take it? :( :D

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Lets make one thing clear in regards to lazy gits who don't want to work and sit on their backside and claim benefit.

When l got made redundant four years ago, l did everything possible to get a job, BUT l needed a job that paid a salary to keep my family - approx 18/19 kg per year.

The jobs that were on offer were between 15/17 kg per year. I was not prepared to take a job that paid that amount. I was not lazy my benefit was £75.00 per week for my family and out of that that l had to pay rent and council tax.

I worked damn hard to find a job, sitting in my car and taking company details (which l still have today to remind myself) then go home and send emails and faxes to the companies.
I got more interviews that way then going through JS and all the government talk of getting work. I finally got my present job via my voluntary work.

Its ok for members to blast people at having the lack of courage to find work, but most of the work which may be out - does not pay enough.

Some members may say l work for 16 kg a year, good for you, but not everyone sits on there backside and claim benefit- which you are entitled too.