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zekeisaszekedoes 01-12-2011 14:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35338384)
Yes there is.It's called self control and leads to one being able to either leave a thread or just not 'pay any attention' to a certain poster.I've got it down to a fine art with some members.;)

I don't like to be contentious, but rather than having to step in and moderate dozens of threads and ask dozens of people to use the ignore function several times, wouldn't it make more sense to get to the root of the problem and ban whoever keeps instigating the problem? How much easier was the moderator's job when the member in question was temp banned - I don't think I saw more than one bold moderator post in a week or so, which was great.

MovedGoalPosts 01-12-2011 14:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
This thread is not about moderation, or posting styles. Please get back to the topic.

HD Boy 01-12-2011 15:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
At the moment Boxnation is on Virgin Media for free.

Maggy 01-12-2011 15:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35338386)
The mods need to get themselves together and sort this out privately and then come back to us with a solution. Half of them are having a go at hd boy for repeating himself and posting pointless tweets, the other half are deleting posts made by forum members which make the same point.

You, as a team, either want him to stop the way he posts OR you want other members to just ignore him, but you can't have both. Every time a mod tells him off it undermines the mod who defends his right to post and suggests we use the ignore function.

How about EVERYONE stays on topic and then NO ONE gets fracked.If no one replies to the people they won't use the ignore button for then it stays on topic.Staying on topic is the surest way to ignore the elephant in the thread who is trying their level best to get attention and if I may say so getting that attention in spades every time some one reacts to their tendency to over post.

Think of them as the annoying toddler asking why all the time just to get attention.In the end you just stop listening.;)

andy_m 01-12-2011 15:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
OK not the time or place-pm's sent to you both.

HD Boy 01-12-2011 17:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338449)
At the moment Boxnation is on Virgin Media for free.

It still is and Is this a mistake ?

muppetman11 01-12-2011 18:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35338399)
+1 who's not impressed by the deal.

My gut feeling is Bernie will have egg on his face next season by doing this deal as the audience wont be nearly as much as when solely on the BBC. This obviously depends on how they are going to package the F1 channel on other platforms. Only 3 months maximum til we find out

I'm pretty sure Bernie will have been aware that viewing numbers would be lower when half the races are exclusively live on pay TV , it stands to reason.

HD Boy 01-12-2011 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35338601)
I'm pretty sure Bernie will have been aware that viewing numbers would be lower when half the races are exclusively live on pay TV.

I agree but it Actually might be 9 races exclusively live on pay TV because there might be no US GP.

How many have the HD pack on Sky without sky sports and how many have Sky Sports on Sky ?

I know Virgin Media have 775,000 Sky Sports customers.

devilincarnate 01-12-2011 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338603)
I agree but it Actually might be 9 races exclusively live on pay TV because there might be no US GP.

Quote:

19 2012 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX (Austin)16 - 18 Nov
http://www.formula1.com/races/calendar_preview.html

HD Boy 01-12-2011 21:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35338713)

Quote:

Bernie Ecclestone has sounded another death knell for the 2012 United States GP, saying the Circuit of the Americas "never had the money" to pay for the race. The new circuit in Austin, Texas, was pencilled in to hold its inaugural race next year, but construction at the track was halted earlier this month after the promoters, organisers and Ecclestone failed to agree terms.

Although COTA hasn't given up hope of hosting the race, Ecclestone is less optimistic as he feels the organisers were never in a position to come up with the money to pay him.

Ecclestone has offered a revised contract to COTA and they have until Wednesday to sign the new offer. Should no deal be reached then the 2012 season will consist of only 19 races as the Formula One supremo has made it clear that the US GP won't be replaced on the calendar if it is dropped.
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...medium=twitter

devilincarnate 01-12-2011 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338714)

They have until the 7th Dec.

http://en.espnf1.com/usa/motorsport/story/65801.html

HD Boy 01-12-2011 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35338726)

The final countdown. LOL :D

HD Boy 02-12-2011 00:44

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CBS Action launching on Virgin Media channel 192 on the 13th of december.
It will be on the M+ package
http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf


I wonder why CBS Drama is not launching ? or is it ?

It also says at the end of the magazine "watch this space."
http://electric.virginmedia.com/issue39.html

Are we in for very good news ?

There are good times ahead HD channels wise. As Virgin Media have already said.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post4340.html

Chad 02-12-2011 00:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338843)
CBS Action launching on Virgin Media channel 192 on the 13th of december.

Well spotted HD Boy.

Here's a link to the CBS Action website for anyone wondering what shows they broadcast:

http://www.cbsaction.co.uk/tv_guide.php

Fans of Star Trek: The Next Generation will be chuffed to bits!

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338854)
Well spotted HD Boy.

I do that every month now. Just look what happened with Comedy Central HD in August 2010.

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 01:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338843)
There are good times ahead HD channels wise. As Virgin Media have already said.

So you've done a complete one-eighty on your "hardly a HD shopping spree" poo-pooing of only an additional 7 HD channels this year and doubting that would improve next year, eh?

Honestly, this guy changes direction more than a goddamn weather vane. :D

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338858)
So you've done a complete one-eighty on your "hardly a HD shopping spree" poo-pooing of only an additional 7 HD channels this year and doubting that would improve next year, eh?

I never said that. I meant i highly doubt there would be more HD channels this year.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post4667.html

I think there will be more HD channels in april.

Chad 02-12-2011 01:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338858)
So you've done a complete one-eighty on your "hardly a HD shopping spree" poo-pooing of only an additional 7 HD channels this year and doubting that would improve next year, eh?

Honestly, this guy changes direction more than a goddamn weather vane. :D

HD Boy likes a wee rant from time to time, just like the rest of us. It was a good find by him, the best HD Boy post of the day by far.

It's one of the channels Alan Fry wants too so he'll be pretty upbeat when he swings by. I thought BoxNation was going to be the only new channel launch this month. Keep up the good work Virgin!

Jameseh 02-12-2011 01:14

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I know there will be more (HD) channels when Virgin decide to add some new channels.

Logic on twitter told me.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338862)
I thought BoxNation was going to be the only new channel launch this month. Keep up the good work Virgin!

So did i.

Chad 02-12-2011 01:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
We know Alibi HD is coming in 2012
We know SKY F1 HD is probably coming in March 2012
BoxNation confirmed they are looking to go HD in 2012

That's all the HD news I know

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338866)
We know Alibi HD is coming in 2012
We know SKY F1 HD is probably coming in March 2012
BoxNation confirmed they are looking to go HD in 2012

That's all the HD news I know

The ITV VOD advertsing deal with Virgin Media early next year which might include the ITV HD channels.

I could be wrong.

---------- Post added at 00:21 ---------- Previous post was at 00:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35338863)
I know there will be more (HD) channels when Virgin decide to add some new channels.

Logic on twitter told me.

You should put a sarcastic smile at the end of that post.

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 01:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338862)
HD Boy likes a wee rant from time to time, just like the rest of us. It was a good find by him, the best HD Boy post of the day by far.

It's one of the channels Alan Fry wants too so he'll be pretty upbeat when he swings by. I thought BoxNation was going to be the only new channel launch this month. Keep up the good work Virgin!

You're quite right Chad, so I retract my shot at him this time. I still like my weather vane joke though. :)

Free-to-air BoxNation for me now... enjoying it.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:45

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I remember to 2 channels have been added to the total servs recently.

Could it really actually be CBS Action and CBS Drama that are testing ?

Chad 02-12-2011 01:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338878)
Found his twitter page :D

I did always say that he stuck up for what he believed in, and his Twitter page confirms that 100%

I'm not really sure he'd appreciate you publishing a link to his profile though. Probably best to remove before the Mods send you on another 3 week vacation;)

---------- Post added at 00:49 ---------- Previous post was at 00:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338872)
I still like my weather vane joke though. :)

:D

HD Boy 02-12-2011 01:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338889)
I'm not really sure he'd appreciate you publishing a link to his site though. Probably best to remove

Just done that.

---------- Post added at 00:53 ---------- Previous post was at 00:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338889)
I did always say that he stuck up for what he believed in, and his Twitter page confirms that 100%

You can say that again.

Chad 02-12-2011 02:03

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Does any of our regular Virgin employee posters know what is happening with BoxNation. Seems everyone has access just now. Is this an unadvertised free period, is it a Tickle or is it just an error? Any info would be great.

Digital Fanatic 02-12-2011 02:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35338896)
Does any of our regular Virgin employee posters know what is happening with BoxNation. Seems everyone has access just now. Is this an unadvertised free period, is it a Tickle or is it just an error? Any info would be great.

Not sure, it's subscription only AFAIK, no freeviews.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 02:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35338897)
no freeviews.

Well i am watching it right now for free.

Digital Fanatic 02-12-2011 02:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338898)
Well i am watching it right now for free.

I'm aware of that.

RichardCoulter 02-12-2011 02:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338872)
You're quite right Chad, so I retract my shot at him this time. I still like my weather vane joke though. :)

Free-to-air BoxNation for me now... enjoying it.

Do you mean literally FTA ie you don't need your card in to view it, or free for VM subscribers on all packages?

Would you mind taking your card out to check if you haven't already?

Is anyone on the TV M pack getting Box Nation unencrypted?

I believe the channel encrypted yesterday evening on Sky.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 02:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35338900)
I'm aware of that.

It must be a error.

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 02:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35338901)
Do you mean literally FTA ie you don't need your card in to view it, or free for VM subscribers on all packages?

Would you mind taking your card out to check if you haven't already?

I'll maybe have a look when I don't have a bunch of things recording, but judging from my experiences running a VM STB without a card in you get almost no channels even regular free-to-air ones you'd find on Freeview or Freesat. It's not much use!

Come to think of it, us all discussing it means if it is a mistake then it's more likely to be corrected quickly. Maybe we should have kept it under our collective hats.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 02:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35338901)

Do you mean literally FTA ie you don't need your card in to view it, or free for VM subscribers on all packages?

Would you mind taking your card out to check if you haven't already?

I Took the card out of my V HD box and you can not view the channel.

borrissey 02-12-2011 02:36

Why isn't there a box nation HD? That's a bit poor these days..

Digital Fanatic 02-12-2011 02:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35338910)
Why isn't there a box nation HD? That's a bit poor these days..

BoxNation say it's in the pipeline, so to speak. :)

RichardCoulter 02-12-2011 03:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338905)
I'll maybe have a look when I don't have a bunch of things recording, but judging from my experiences running a VM STB without a card in you get almost no channels even regular free-to-air ones you'd find on Freeview or Freesat. It's not much use!

Come to think of it, us all discussing it means if it is a mistake then it's more likely to be corrected quickly. Maybe we should have kept it under our collective hats.

Thanks, but HD Boy has now tried it and it's not viewable without a card, so it must be encrypted, I wonder if TV M customers can receive it?

I hope you'll be able to watch your recordings when the channel encrypts. I know that VM are to/have started this for the Sky movie and sports channels in line with Sky policy, there again Box Nation is not a Sky channel, so who knows!

It might be an idea to watch your recordings ASAP...

denphone 02-12-2011 07:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338843)
CBS Action launching on Virgin Media channel 192 on the 13th of december.
It will be on the M+ package
http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf


I wonder why CBS Drama is not launching ? or is it ?

It also says at the end of the magazine "watch this space."
http://electric.virginmedia.com/issue39.html

Are we in for very good news ?

There are good times ahead HD channels wise. As Virgin Media have already said.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post4340.html

Excellent news as there are several things l like on there.

DaMac 02-12-2011 09:02

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Its all still very vague, we know that if Virgin can get HD channels on their terms they will and all the fancy terminolgy doesn't change the fact it has to be on their terms.

pk1 02-12-2011 09:05

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According to the December edition of Electric, the downloadable channel guide is listed as November 2011, the only new channel mentioned is PBS.

So where is December's list?

Has it been made up?

DaMac 02-12-2011 09:06

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I'm so happy with my broadband service i would be prepared to pay £5 extra a month for Sports HD 3 & 4, Cinemagic HD etc, i really don't want to go back to copper wired internet, i know some people will say have different providers.. can't be mithered i want it all from one source, on one bill (how ever confusing that might be LOL).
:xmas:

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 11:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
I have asked Virgin Media on Twitter about if they are removing Current TV from Virgin TV, their responce was:

"We've not been made aware of any changing at the moment"

I also asked if they going to add both Sky Sports F1 and Sky Sports F1 HD, their responce was:

"We're in talks with Sky at the moment. When we have any updates, we'll be sure to let you know"

---------- Post added at 10:54 ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338843)
CBS Action launching on Virgin Media channel 192 on the 13th of december.
It will be on the M+ package
http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf


I wonder why CBS Drama is not launching ? or is it ?

It also says at the end of the magazine "watch this space."
http://electric.virginmedia.com/issue39.html

Are we in for very good news ?

There are good times ahead HD channels wise. As Virgin Media have already said.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post4340.html

Thats Good news!

pk1 02-12-2011 12:51

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Unable to find details of CBS action launch anywhere ????????

gba93 02-12-2011 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35339041)
Unable to find details of CBS action launch anywhere ????????

What sort of details are you looking for ?

pk1 02-12-2011 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35338935)
Excellent news as there are several things l like on there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35339043)
What sort of details are you looking for ?

Nothing on CBS ACTION site.

Link to December's electric magazine shows November's channel list not December's.

Did not think this months online mag was available as yet.

ncfc1902 02-12-2011 13:10

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http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf


There is a feature on Current TV in the online mag, which I guess there wouldn't be if the channel was about to be removed.

gba93 02-12-2011 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35339046)
Nothing on CBS ACTION site.

Link to December's electric magazine shows November's channel list not December's.

Did not think this months online mag was available as yet.

The link http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf does
show December 2011 channel line-up and better still you've only got 11 days to wait and all will be revealed - look upon it as an early christmas present

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 35339047)
There is a feature on Current TV in the online mag, which I guess there wouldn't be if the channel was about to be removed.

There was also a feature last month. So you could be right.

howardmicks 02-12-2011 13:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35338935)
Excellent news as there are several things l like on there.

And next year cbs channels r going hd,lets hope they r part of the deal xand we get them ;)from launch

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35339057)
And next year cbs channels r going hd,lets hope they r part of the deal xand we get them ;)from launch

CBS Drama is not launching. So i doubt we would get CBS Drama HD as part of the deal

Maybe Virgin media have just given us a teaser and maybe CBS Drama will launch. Who knows.

Something is happening early next year when it said at the end of the magazine "watch this space"

I do think there will be HD channels announced early next year (not including Sky Sports F1 HD and Alibi HD )

pk1 02-12-2011 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35339048)
The link http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf does
show December 2011 channel line-up and better still you've only got 11 days to wait and all will be revealed - look upon it as an early christmas present

Thanks

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 15:26

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No more free BoxNation now! Looks like a great channel from the few hours I saw, though. By enthusiasts for enthusiasts.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35338949)

So where is December's list?

Has it been made up?

Why would i make it up ?

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339158)
Why would i make it up ?

Because you live to report and repost hearsay and vague, often inaccurate information. :dozey:

HD Boy 02-12-2011 15:38

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I check the magazine/channel guide every month now. Just look what happened with Comedy Central HD in August 2010.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 15:58

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Im afraid Virgin Media has not confirmed that CBS Action will be coming to Virgin TV anytime soon.

I asked Virgin Media on twtter if Virgin TV will be getting CBS Action, their reponce was:

"No plans that we've heard of, if that changes we'll let you know"

HD Boy 02-12-2011 16:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35339186)
Im afraid Virgin Media has not confirmed that CBS Action will be coming to Virgin TV anytime soon.

I asked Virgin Media on twtter if Virgin TV will be getting CBS Action, their reponce was:

"No plans that we've heard of, if that changes we'll let you know"

They would not tell you anyway. So that means nothing.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339191)
They would not tell you anyway. So that means nothing.

I would wait for comfirmation from VM, just to be sure!

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339191)
They would not tell you anyway. So that means nothing.

To be fair some of the vague replies you've gotten from staff members and reposted here have exactly the same lack of value. Pot/kettle idiom, anyone?

RichardCoulter 02-12-2011 16:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35338917)
Thanks, but HD Boy has now tried it and it's not viewable without a card, so it must be encrypted, I wonder if TV M customers can receive it?

I hope you'll be able to watch your recordings when the channel encrypts. I know that VM are to/have started this for the Sky movie and sports channels in line with Sky policy, there again Box Nation is not a Sky channel, so who knows!

It might be an idea to watch your recordings ASAP...

Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339153)
No more free BoxNation now! Looks like a great channel from the few hours I saw, though. By enthusiasts for enthusiasts.

Out of interest, now that it's encrypted, are you still able to view your Box Nation recordings?

Chad 02-12-2011 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35339202)
I would wait for comfirmation from VM, just to be sure!

http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf

The bit at the bottom right hand corner in blue that states CBS Action is coming on the 13.12.11 on channel 192 is good enough for me. The above links to the Virgin Media website and to a Virgin published document. That to me confirms 100% that the channel is launching soon.

Ask the guys on Twitter to click on this link, then get their thoughts.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339238)
http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf

The bit at the bottom right hand corner in blue that states CBS Action is coming on the 13.12.11 on channel 192 is good enough for me. The above links to the Virgin Media website and to a Virgin published document. That to me confirms 100% that the channel is launching soon.

Ask the guys on Twitter to click on this link, then get their thoughts.

Even when i said the TV magazines were saying UKTV HD channels were launching and i also showed them a picture. They still did not say anything.

Digital Fanatic 02-12-2011 17:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35339230)
Out of interest, now that it's encrypted, are you still able to view your Box Nation recordings?

Only Sky owned channels have the Subscription Protection on them.

ozsat 02-12-2011 17:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35339230)
Out of interest, now that it's encrypted, are you still able to view your Box Nation recordings?

The box records any encryption along with the recording.

As there was no encryption they will play as they can not go back and encrypt them.

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 17:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35339230)
Out of interest, now that it's encrypted, are you still able to view your Box Nation recordings?

Sadly I didn't make any, so I can't test. Would probably work though... next time a channel becomes available for a limited time I'll give it a go.

Felim_Doyle 02-12-2011 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339300)
Sadly I didn't make any, so I can't test. Would probably work though... next time a channel becomes available for a limited time I'll give it a go.

:td: Hmm! Sounds vague and speculative and so probably not worth posting! :td:

Felim_Doyle 02-12-2011 22:10

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Following on from earlier comments, what I would like to see "Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) ..." are time-shift variations of all channels and at no extra cost to the carrier (e.g. VM) from the broadcaster. :)

Whether or not you have a TiVo or other PVR (not everyone does) time-shift channels can still be useful. Those with recording facilities may have all of their tuners in use :shocked:, neglected to record a programme or missed it due to unforeseen circumstances. Note that not all Channel 5 programmes are available in Demand 5 and this applies to the other channels with On Demand facilities. Furthermore, not all of the channels have Catch Up On Demand or TV On Demand libraries.

I would have thought that, with the availability of TiVo, PVR, rewind live TV and various On Demand players, the rights issues were already covered and all programming could be archived by the carrier for 24 hours, 48 hours* or 7 days. It might mean viewing programmes as aired complete with the broadcasters' advertising but that's already the case with some of the existing options and the same as if you watched it live anyway.

Okay, in the current linear channel setup +1s for every channel is not really feasible but using the On Demand service or with a new delivery mechanism, such as IPTV, it could be possible.

*IIRC, when VCRs were first introduced in the UK you were allowed to record programmes and keep them for 48 hours only after which they had to be erased. Obviously this was impossible to enforce and most people weren't even aware of the ruling but it sets a precedent for at least 48 hours of access to programmes after they are aired.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35339482)
Following on from earlier comments, what I would like to see "Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) ..." is time-shift versions of all channels and at no extra cost to the carrier (e.g. VM). :)

Not going to happen.

BBC One , BBC Two , BBC Three , BBC Four , Sky 1 , Sky 2 , Pick TV , CBS Action , 10 Sky Movies channels , 4 Sky Sports channels ,Sky Sports News , ESPN , ESPN America , ESPN Classic etc does not have a +1 channel.

The BBC will never have +1 channels with the way it's going.

Jameseh 03-12-2011 01:06

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Sky and BBC have their content on demand within minutes of it airing so its not exactly a problem.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35339568)
Sky and BBC have their content on demand within minutes of it airing so its not exactly a problem.

That is true.

Chad 03-12-2011 01:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35339482)
Following on from earlier comments, what I would like to see "Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) ..." are time-shift variations of all channels and at no extra cost to the carrier (e.g. VM) from the broadcaster. :)

I've noticed recently, when using TiVo search, just how often some programmes are actually repeated over the space of 7 days. If you miss a programme on popular channels, you'll often be able to catch it again really soon either on the same channel, or a sister station.

Some examples:

Neighbours is shown on Channel 5 at 1:45pm then repeated at 5:30pm. It's also repeated on 5* at 3:00pm and 7:00pm.

The Gadget Show is broadcast on Channel 5 on a Monday night, and gets repeated on a Tuesday on 5*.

Emmerdale and Coronation Street are repeated each night, about 4 hours after being broadcast, on ITV2.

The Cafe is shown on SKY1 on a Wednesday and gets repeated on a Friday on SKY1, a Saturday on SKY2 and then again on a Monday on SKY1.

Match Of the Day is shown on BBC1 on a Saturday night and gets repeated on a Sunday morning again on BBC1.

All WWE programming gets about 3 outings accross the various SKY Sports channels each week.

Whilst +1 channels would add value, taking time out to check if and when a programme will be repeated can be just as effective. Most popular programmes do get repeated, sometimes more than once. If you are prepared to be a little flexible with your viewing habits, you should catch almost everything you want to watch. This can at times also include movies. I think American Pie 3 has been on SKY1 and SKY2 about 10 times in the past 14 days. I'm sure ITV is currently repeated every James Bond movie at least once. Goldfinger was on last Saturday and then again on the Sunday.

andy_m 03-12-2011 09:21

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I know not everybody wants to change their viewing habits to the Tivo way, but I really have no need of plus 1's any more. In the unlikely event of a recording clash Tivo finds the next showing of the program that hasn't been recorded, and as has already been pointed out, this is usually on the channel itself during the week.

This works for me, but then I no longer watch linear TV-think of the space there would be for new channels if we all did this and the plus 1's went!

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35339369)
:td: Hmm! Sounds vague and speculative and so probably not worth posting! :td:

The post above mine by ozsat confirms that it is possible:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35339293)
The box records any encryption along with the recording.

As there was no encryption they will play as they can not go back and encrypt them.

If I'd seen that first I wouldn't have posted.

The point is though, the majority of my posts are based on fact, not vague/speculative/hearsay/inaccurate information like HD Boy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339490)
The BBC will never have +1 channels with the way it's going.

Why would they even need them?! Like most networks, their shows get repeated across the range of channels all the time, often within a day or two (or less) of their original airing. Even without On Demand or PVRs, if you can find your way around a copy of TV Guide you'll do fine. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339573)
Whilst +1 channels would add value, taking time out to check if and when a programme will be repeated can be just as effective. Most popular programmes do get repeated, sometimes more than once.

Great point. And the TiVo makes it so easy to check for alternate air dates, and better still, notice when an overlap occurs and record another showing instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35339615)
This works for me, but then I no longer watch linear TV-think of the space there would be for new channels if we all did this and the plus 1's went!

The reason I got TiVo in the first place was I couldn't deal with the annoyances of linear TV (I think you've coined a phrase there, by the way) any more. I'd been spoiled by having a large collection of media on tap on my NAS PC running XBMC without even the need to put the original DVDs in and deal with the menus etc.

Though I wouldn't agree VM TiVo is the best way to watch TV (my PC rig still beats it), it's a massive shove in the right direction.

spiderplant 03-12-2011 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339698)
The post above mine by ozsat confirms that it is possible:

ozsat is describing how Sky+ works, but the VM boxes are different. If VM boxes worked that way, you would never have been able to watch recordings from channels you no longer to subscribe to.

The subscription requirement only applies to Sky channels, so any recordings made from BoxNation on Thursday can still be played.

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35339741)
ozsat is describing how Sky+ works, but the VM boxes are different. If VM boxes worked that way, you would never have been able to watch recordings from channels you no longer to subscribe to.

The subscription requirement only applies to Sky channels, so any recordings made from BoxNation on Thursday can still be played.

I guess I was more right the first time, eh? Still, now there's a definitive answer so it's not all bad. ;)

You still can't play recordings in My Shows when the co-ax isn't hooked up though, is that right?

RichardCoulter 03-12-2011 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35339273)
Only Sky owned channels have the Subscription Protection on them.

Thanks for confirming that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35339293)
The box records any encryption along with the recording.

As there was no encryption they will play as they can not go back and encrypt them.

It is possible for broadcasters to prevent people from viewing recordings of a channel, if they no longer subscribe to said channel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339300)
Sadly I didn't make any, so I can't test. Would probably work though... next time a channel becomes available for a limited time I'll give it a go.

I am now back at home, and as DF stated, the recordings are viewable :)

Yourself and other boxing fans may be interested in the film "The Fight Of Their Lives" this Monday. It airs at 10.35pm on ITV1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339573)
I've noticed recently, when using TiVo search, just how often some programmes are actually repeated over the space of 7 days. If you miss a programme on popular channels, you'll often be able to catch it again really soon either on the same channel, or a sister station.

Some examples:

Neighbours is shown on Channel 5 at 1:45pm then repeated at 5:30pm. It's also repeated on 5* at 3:00pm and 7:00pm.

The Gadget Show is broadcast on Channel 5 on a Monday night, and gets repeated on a Tuesday on 5*.

Emmerdale and Coronation Street are repeated each night, about 4 hours after being broadcast, on ITV2.

The Cafe is shown on SKY1 on a Wednesday and gets repeated on a Friday on SKY1, a Saturday on SKY2 and then again on a Monday on SKY1.

Match Of the Day is shown on BBC1 on a Saturday night and gets repeated on a Sunday morning again on BBC1.

All WWE programming gets about 3 outings accross the various SKY Sports channels each week.

Whilst +1 channels would add value, taking time out to check if and when a programme will be repeated can be just as effective. Most popular programmes do get repeated, sometimes more than once. If you are prepared to be a little flexible with your viewing habits, you should catch almost everything you want to watch. This can at times also include movies. I think American Pie 3 has been on SKY1 and SKY2 about 10 times in the past 14 days. I'm sure ITV is currently repeated every James Bond movie at least once. Goldfinger was on last Saturday and then again on the Sunday.

Very true, it's just knowing when/where to look!

spiderplant 03-12-2011 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339769)
You still can't play recordings in My Shows when the co-ax isn't hooked up though, is that right?

You always have been able to, but you need to press the Play button on My Shows rather than selecting the programme then Play through the menus.

Felim_Doyle 03-12-2011 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35339568)
Sky and BBC have their content on demand within minutes of it airing so its not exactly a problem.

Well maybe not Sky Anytime on VM currently (see the Sky Anytime thread) but that's the kind of thing I'm suggesting. Is it too much to ask that all channels make their programming available this way for seven days?

If you're just trying to schedule one night's viewing then most of the popular shows (or our favourites anyway) are on between 19:00 and 23:00 at competing times. We are mostly lucky that we do have +1s for Alibi, 5*, 5 USA, Universal, Discovery etc. but not FX (yet!) or 5 (yet!). Sure you can wait till a show is repeated later in the week but it is bound to conflict with something else that night especially as, these days, different episodes of the same series are shown every week night.

Sometimes you need a bit more flexibility especially if you want to do anything else like make some phone calls, go shopping or eat! I really need one of those fridges with the built-in TV and internet!

As I already said, linear TV may not be the way to provide time-shift channels but there are other mechanisms currently available or on the way but it's a question of how many broadcasters will make use of them to provide this valuable facility.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35340003)
If you're just trying to schedule one night's viewing then most of the popular shows (or our favourites anyway) are on between 19:00 and 23:00 at competing times. We are mostly lucky that we do have +1s for Alibi, 5*, 5 USA, Universal, Discovery etc. but not FX (yet!) or 5 (yet!). Sure you can wait till a show is repeated later in the week but it is bound to conflict with something else that night especially as, these days, different episodes of the same series are shown every week night.

That is why Tivo has 3 tuners so it will help.

Felim_Doyle 03-12-2011 21:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339698)
The post above mine by ozsat confirms that it is possible:

If I'd seen that first I wouldn't have posted.

The point is though, the majority of my posts are based on fact, not vague/speculative/hearsay/inaccurate information like HD Boy.

However, your specific post (not the one above it) was vague and speculative (even by its own admission) and so probably not worth posting.

Let he who is without sin and does not live in a glass house, call the kettle black! :nono:

HD Boy 03-12-2011 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35340010)

Let he who is without sin and does not live in a glass house, call the kettle black! :nono:

What ? :confused:

edit: I now what you mean now i think
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_cal...e_kettle_black

LondonRoad 03-12-2011 22:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35340012)
What ? :confused:

edit: I now what you mean now i think
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_cal...e_kettle_black

Nah. He means " He who laughs last, gathers no moss" :D

devilincarnate 03-12-2011 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35340030)
Nah. He means " He who laughs last, gathers no moss" :D

I thought that it was "A rolling stone can take copious amounts of stuff":D

Maggy 03-12-2011 22:40

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Topic?Stick to it.

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35340010)
However, your specific post (not the one above it) was vague and speculative (even by its own admission) and so probably not worth posting.

Let he who is without sin and does not live in a glass house, call the kettle black! :nono:

Continuing to be persnickety about something so trivial means you are indulging in the latter part yourself (probably not worth posting), therefore invalidating your criticism by making you guilty of your own mixed idiom, surely? :D :p:

We should probably get back on topic now.

Mal 04-12-2011 00:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339573)
I've noticed recently, when using TiVo search, just how often some programmes are actually repeated over the space of 7 days. If you miss a programme on popular channels, you'll often be able to catch it again really soon either on the same channel, or a sister station.

Some examples:

Neighbours is shown on Channel 5 at 1:45pm then repeated at 5:30pm. It's also repeated on 5* at 3:00pm and 7:00pm.

The Gadget Show is broadcast on Channel 5 on a Monday night, and gets repeated on a Tuesday on 5*.

Emmerdale and Coronation Street are repeated each night, about 4 hours after being broadcast, on ITV2.

The Cafe is shown on SKY1 on a Wednesday and gets repeated on a Friday on SKY1, a Saturday on SKY2 and then again on a Monday on SKY1.

Match Of the Day is shown on BBC1 on a Saturday night and gets repeated on a Sunday morning again on BBC1.

All WWE programming gets about 3 outings accross the various SKY Sports channels each week.

Whilst +1 channels would add value, taking time out to check if and when a programme will be repeated can be just as effective. Most popular programmes do get repeated, sometimes more than once. If you are prepared to be a little flexible with your viewing habits, you should catch almost everything you want to watch. This can at times also include movies. I think American Pie 3 has been on SKY1 and SKY2 about 10 times in the past 14 days. I'm sure ITV is currently repeated every James Bond movie at least once. Goldfinger was on last Saturday and then again on the Sunday.

Just look for Two & a Half Men on Comedy Central and you see how many times a programme is repeated ;)

Media Boy UK 04-12-2011 12:09

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@HD Boy

Thanks for the CBS Action info.

Felim_Doyle 04-12-2011 12:18

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Several channels repeat programmes throughout the day but if you are only in a position to view TV in the evening, for example, that only counts as one airing.

One could argue that it makes more sense for the carrier (e.g. VM, Sky etc.) to store most programmes for a short period (e.g. 24 hours, 48 hours or 7 days) rather than multiple customers duplicating the process by recording them on their PVR or TiVo boxes. The latter facilities are better suited to longer-term storage of programmes, series, sporting events or movies. Some on here have suggested that all TV should be On Demand and that there is no future in linear programming but that may be taking things too far, at least for now.

Given VM's emphasis on their TiVo and broadband technologies it's surprising that we haven't heard more about IPTV this year.

howardmicks 04-12-2011 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35340198)
@HD Boy

Thanks for the CBS Action info.

Is it true then its launching b4 xmas?

OLD BOY 04-12-2011 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35340243)
Is it true then its launching b4 xmas?

Yes, CBS Action launches on 13 December. Pity we still don't have any positive news about CBS Drama.

Media Boy UK 04-12-2011 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35340243)
Is it true then its launching b4 xmas?

It true see this link: http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf

I am waiting on my insiders geting back to me on if any other CBS Channel will launch as part of that new deal.

HD Boy 04-12-2011 15:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35340267)
It true see this link: http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...-guide-dec.pdf

I am waiting on my insiders geting back to me on if any other CBS Channel will launch as part of that new deal.

I hope CBS Drama does launch on the 13th of december.

---------- Post added at 14:26 ---------- Previous post was at 14:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35340203)

Given VM's emphasis on their TiVo and broadband technologies it's surprising that we haven't heard more about IPTV this year.

TiVo will be a hybrid IPTV OTT provider outside the cable area.

Quote:

Virgin Media has announced it will be a guaranteed customer, alongside UK broadband provider TalkTalk, to provide Fujitsu with the commitment it needed to justify the investment. This will enable Virgin Media to compete across a further 20 percent of UK homes initially, with the help of its TiVo box, in effect as a hybrid IPTV/OTT provider outside its footprint.
http://broadcastengineering.com/news...tivo-20110502/

zantarous 04-12-2011 15:37

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You have misread what that says its not Tivo that is a hybrid, it will be using IPTV technology to deliver its services outside its footprint area.

braysoj1 04-12-2011 15:37

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what does CBS Action show

Media Boy UK 04-12-2011 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35340279)
what does CBS Action show

http://cbsaction.co.uk/tv_guide.php

muppetman11 04-12-2011 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35340279)
what does CBS Action show

Here you go

http://www.cbsaction.co.uk/

denphone 04-12-2011 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35340283)

Looking forward to a bit of Walker and Star Trekkin.

devilincarnate 04-12-2011 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35340279)
what does CBS Action show

Action shows:D:D:D

HD Boy 04-12-2011 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35340404)
Action shows:D:D:D

:D

mhatter67 04-12-2011 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35340282)

You can keep Sky Alantic, with Kung Fu on Monday I have gone to TV heaven Grasshopper:D


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